[DeTomaso] Clutch Master Cylinder

Tue Feb 27 15:17:24 EST 2007

Has anyone actually used this Clutch Master Cylinder on a Panter. It is 
listed on International Auto Parts website and supposedly is the OEM item??? 
Can anyone confirm that and has anyone installed it with success on a 
Pantera? I'm about to order one.

website is www.international-auto.com
part number 7131

The link below should take you directly to the page:

http://www.international-auto.com/index.cfm?fa=p&pid=2618&posid=881571&noapp=1

Best regards,

Tom Borcich
#4382

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>       Devise (Greg Jacobs)
>    5. Re: Shop Equipment (Greg Jacobs)
>    6. Re: Road Trip (Mark McWhinney)
>    7. Re: Road Trip (MikeLDrew at aol.com)
>    8. Re: Road Trip (Mark McWhinney)
>    9. Re: Road Trip (cengles at cox.net)
>   10. Re: Road Trip (Mark McWhinney)
>   11. Re: Road Trip (Pantera 007)
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>   13. Re: Road Trip (ROBERT SIMPSON)
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>   15. Re: Road Trip (Mike Thomas)
>   16. Re: Road Trip (Mike Thomas)
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>   18. Re: Road Trip (Greg Jacobs)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:20:44 -0800
> From: "Art Stephens" <artstephens at charter.net>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Seat Belts
> To: <detomaso at realbig.com>
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> Dan,
>      I like the looks of those belts!  Could please email me some 
> pictures?
> Thanks,
>
> Art
>
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> Subject: [DeTomaso] Seat Belts
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>
> > http://coolfj40.stores.yahoo.net/seatbelfj19t.html
> >
> >
> >
> > These are the ones I installed in my '74. Jim liked them and installed
> > them
> > in his car. The reel bolts to the firewall where the old reel was 
> > mounted.
> > To use the old reel cover you need to cut a portion out. If anyone's
> > interested, I can email  pictures.
> >
> >
> >
> > Joel,
> >
> >
> >
> > If you want a set of '74 seat belts, email me.
> >
> >
> >
> > Dan
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:38:11 -0500
> From: fstoye at aol.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Road Trip
> To: DeTomaso at realbig.com
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>   I am planning a road trip to Vegas for the Fun Run. Only this year I'm 
> driving my car. Other than the obvious things to bring, oil, spare belts, 
> jack, fuses and a Bible, any suggestions of things to bring? I have 
> purchased a great little trailer that is to be pulled behind a motorcycle, 
> as my carry all, so I have enough room for more than the car trunk.
>
>  Fred Stoye
>  '72 Red
>  #3366
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 09:38:22 -0800 (PST)
> From: Jim Cain <jwcinvestment at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Extended or adjustable rear upper control arms
> Wanted
> To: detomaso at realbig.com
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> Just checking to see if anyone has a set of these they aren't using before 
> I run off to the Vendors.
> Thanks,
> Jim Cain
> #5774
> #5432
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> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:01:34 -0800
> From: "Greg Jacobs" <greg.jacobs at jacobsracing.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] RACE SAFETY - Leatt Brace - Better
> alternativetoHans Devise
> To: "'Mad Dog Antenucci'" <teampantera at yahoo.com>, "'John Taphorn'"
> <jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com>
> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
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> Just how is that supposed to fit if you are in a seated position? It looks
> like it will interfere with the headrest of a conventional race seat.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] 
> On
> Behalf Of Mad Dog Antenucci
> Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 12:48 PM
> To: John Taphorn
> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] RACE SAFETY - Leatt Brace - Better 
> alternativetoHans
> Devise
>
> JT,
>
>   I don't even know if I have one of those vertebrae/backbone things left 
> to
> worrry about.... but I still think its a great idea and must for you
> 'slacker-puppies' to think about.
>
>   md
>   "Do as I say not as I do"
>
>
> John Taphorn <jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com> wrote:
>   Mad Dog
>
> Hopefully, we will never see you "seal of approval" on this unit. It is 
> one
> of those products you buy and pray it never gets utilized.
>
> Looks futuristic. With out reading the info, I suppose you need a closed
> face helmet.
>
> JT
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mad Dog Antenucci"
> To: "Mad Dog Antenucci" ;
> Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 1:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] RACE SAFETY - Leatt Brace - Better alternative
> toHans Devise
>
>
> > P.S. Correction - web site for Leatt-Brace is www.leatt-brace.com
> >
> >
> > Mad Dog Antenucci wrote:
> > For Pantera Racers -
> >
> > At all most $900 bucks I've had a tough time justifying the investment 
> > in
> > the ""Hans Device. And for those who aren't familiar with what the hell 
> > it
>
> > is, I'll share some information I found in latest issue of Circle Track
> > magazine.
> >
> > Like the Hans device its a head and neck brace system that connects to
> > your helmet. More specifically it helps dissibate crash forces on your
> > spine in a collision...In other words as Doc Engles would say, it 
> > reduces
> > compression of the spinal column due to the effect of force on the
> > helmet. ;-]> The energy is transferred to the muscles that run on either
> > side of your spine and NOT down your vertebrae. And you guys just 
> > thought
> > I was a pretty face!
> >
> > I've been at ORR and track events the last year or so where other 
> > drivers
> > were wearing the Hans devices.... but they looked cumbersome, offered no
> > side to side movement and they use helmet tethers or straps that have to
> > be screwed into your helmet which is bad enough.....since every Pantera
> > racer knows what joy it is to put on a helmet in a Pantera cockpit....
> > Every guy you do see with one on before a race has to turn his entire 
> > body
>
> > to look left or right. Think of Frankenstein with a stick up his ass and
> > you'll get a visual. They look gay but okay I know they do work. One of 
> > my
>
> > mean little sick jokes on race day is to call out the drivers name while
> > he has a Hans device on just before he gets into his car just to watch 
> > him
>
> > have to turn his entire body around to see who called his name.
> >
> > Thanks the Pantera Gods along comes Dr. Chris Leatt who invents a better
> > idea in the Leatt Brace www.-bracee.com
> >
> > Its a nylon reinforced carbon fibre and kevlar system so its also good 
> > at
> > stopping projecticles like 762 AK rounds. Okay seriously, the first 
> > thing
> > you notice is the Leatt-Brace (tm) goes completly around your neck and
> > according to Rob Fisher of Circle Track it is comfortable and allows you
> > the freedome to move your head in ALL directions...it also does NOT use
> > helmet straps which makes putting it on and taking it off 100% easier.
> > Also according to Rob Fisher the new designed brace achieves 360 degrees
> > of protection allowing the wearer to totally rotate his head over his
> > left or right shoulders which you can't do with the Hans Devise. Seat
> > harness belts also fit over the wingson the front and rear of the
> > Leatt-Brace and its meets SFI 38.1 rating more importantly for you 
> > fellow
> > race rich but cash poor slackers its cost is a published $595 bucks so 
> > you
>
> > can spend the money you save on more important things like
> > "we-kill-for-peace" decals and cockpit skulls and shrunken
> > heads to freak out the competition.
> >
> > Not ready to give it a mad dawg seal of approval yet but I like what I
> > see...check it out on the web site.
> >
> >
> > Mad Dawg Antenucci
> > Team Pantera Racing
> > The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing
> > www.teampanteraracing.com
> >
> >
> >
> > Mad Dawg Antenucci
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> > The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:13:46 -0800
> From: "Greg Jacobs" <greg.jacobs at jacobsracing.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Shop Equipment
> To: "'Larry - Ohio Time Corp.'" <larry at ohiotimecorp.com>,
> <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Message-ID: <006c01c759d1$dd5aa290$6401a8c0 at OFFICEZ>
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> Man is that sad...
>
> School goes out of business and becomes ebay fodder...
>
> (The network equipment is not worth its weight in scrap. Don't buy that
> stuff.)
>
> G
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] 
> On
> Behalf Of Larry - Ohio Time Corp.
> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 1:57 PM
> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Shop Equipment
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> You central Calf. guys may want to keep an eye on this ebay seller.
>
> http://stores.ebay.com/InterSchola
>
> They sell surplus items for schools. You see a lot of auto shop and wood
> shop equipment at very good prices. You MUST go pick it up, no shipping.
>
> If you would be intrested in picking something up for me sometime let me
> know, as I always like the stuff they sell.
>
>
> Larry (tool nut) - Cleveland
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:51:52 -0800
> From: "Mark McWhinney" <msm at portata.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Road Trip
> To: <fstoye at aol.com>, <DeTomaso at realbig.com>
> Message-ID:
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>
> Just off the top of my head --
>
> Telephone numbers of fellow Pantera owners along the route
> Water bottles (for you and for radiator)
> AAA card with 100 mile tow option
> Wenches, screw drivers, and other tools
> Volt meter w/continuity tester
> Wire
> Electrical tape
> Hose clamps
> Zip ties
> Rain-X
> Shop towels / rags
> CB radio
> Flashlight
> First aid kit
> Hat and suntan lotion
> Cash
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] 
> On
> Behalf Of fstoye at aol.com
> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 9:38 AM
> To: DeTomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Road Trip
>
>   I am planning a road trip to Vegas for the Fun Run. Only this year I'm
> driving my car. Other than the obvious things to bring, oil, spare belts,
> jack, fuses and a Bible, any suggestions of things to bring? I have
> purchased a great little trailer that is to be pulled behind a motorcycle,
> as my carry all, so I have enough room for more than the car trunk.
>
>  Fred Stoye
>  '72 Red
>  #3366
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:58:28 EST
> From: MikeLDrew at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Road Trip
> To: msm at portata.com, FStoye at aol.com, DeTomaso at realbig.com
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> In a message dated 2/26/07 10 52 40, msm at portata.com writes:
>
>
> > Wenches, screw drivers, and other tools
> >
>
> >>>Clearly, SOME people have much more fun on the drive to Vegas than the
> rest of us!!!!
>
> Mike
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:03:38 -0800
> From: "Mark McWhinney" <msm at portata.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Road Trip
> To: <MikeLDrew at aol.com>, <FStoye at aol.com>, <DeTomaso at realbig.com>
> Message-ID:
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> Hehehe.  Good catch.
>
>
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: MikeLDrew at aol.com [mailto:MikeLDrew at aol.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 10:58 AM
> To: msm at portata.com; FStoye at aol.com; DeTomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Road Trip
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 2/26/07 10 52 40, msm at portata.com writes:
>
>
>
>
>
> Wenches, screw drivers, and other tools
>
>
>
> >>>Clearly, SOME people have much more fun on the drive to Vegas than the
> rest of us!!!!
>
> Mike
>
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:05:14 -0500
> From: <cengles at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Road Trip
> To: fstoye at aol.com
> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
> Message-ID: <24211425.1172516714683.JavaMail.root at centrmwml09>
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>
>
> Dear Fred,
>
> I made the round trip journey three times from Oklahoma City to Vegas 
> between 1988-1991. Mike's list is pretty good for mechanical stuff. Based 
> on first hand experience with transcontinental Pantera trips, I would urge 
> consideration of a good radar detector and, if you're so inclined, a CB 
> radio. Oh, yeah. Also try to stay off the super slab and stick to the blue 
> highways, if possible. They're much more fun.
>
> Good luck, Chuck Engles
>
>
>
>
> ---- fstoye at aol.com wrote:
> >I am planning a road trip to Vegas for the Fun Run. Only this year I'm 
> >driving my car. Other than the obvious things to bring, oil, spare belts, 
> >jack, fuses and a Bible, any suggestions of things to bring? I have 
> >purchased a great little trailer that is to be pulled behind a 
> >motorcycle, as my carry all, so I have enough room for more than the car 
> >trunk.
> >
> >Fred Stoye
> >'72 Red
> >#3366
> >
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> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:14:08 -0800
> From: "Mark McWhinney" <msm at portata.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Road Trip
> To: <fstoye at aol.com>, <DeTomaso at realbig.com>
> Message-ID:
> <20070226191408.BA9F232C02A at smtpauth00.csee.siteprotect.com>
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> >> Wenches, screw drivers
>
> Lube
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:35:12 -0800
> From: "Pantera 007" <pantera007 at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Road Trip
> To: <DeTomaso at realbig.com>, <fstoye at aol.com>
> Message-ID: <ILENLNGGPDHKPGLHFMCPGEMCDOAA.pantera007 at sbcglobal.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250"
>
> Fred,
>
> I wrote an article (for PI ???) listing what is probably overkill, but it
> all FITS in the front trunk!
>
> I can't find which issue...maybe it has yet to be published ???  or got 
> lost
> in the transfer of publishers...
>
> The outline/draft was on my old website:  geocities.com/provamo72
>
> Chuck
> Just off the top of my head --
>
> Telephone numbers of fellow Pantera owners along the route
> Water bottles (for you and for radiator)
> AAA card with 100 mile tow option
> Wenches, screw drivers, and other tools
> Volt meter w/continuity tester
> Wire
> Electrical tape
> Hose clamps
> Zip ties
> Rain-X
> Shop towels / rags
> CB radio
> Flashlight
> First aid kit
> Hat and suntan lotion
> Cash
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] 
> On
> Behalf Of fstoye at aol.com
> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 9:38 AM
> To: DeTomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Road Trip
>
>   I am planning a road trip to Vegas for the Fun Run. Only this year I'm
> driving my car. Other than the obvious things to bring, oil, spare belts,
> jack, fuses and a Bible, any suggestions of things to bring? I have
> purchased a great little trailer that is to be pulled behind a motorcycle,
> as my carry all, so I have enough room for more than the car trunk.
>
>  Fred Stoye
>  '72 Red
>  #3366
>
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:48:11 -0700
> From: adin at frontier.net
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Road Trip
> To: detomaso at list.realbig.com
> Message-ID:
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> $10 for gas and beer.
> Sleeping bag.
>
> Yep, that's it.
>
> Doh - that's the 1973 every weekend budget and social calendar.
> Things may have changed . . . or YMMV or something.
>
> Credit card AND cash (think of the green form as an adjustable open
> end wrench - it fixes almost everything)
>
> Tools/parts - by devine law, whatever you bring you won't need.
> (oil/water excepted)
>
> Extra wheels/tires
> Welding outfit
> floor jack/jackstands
> drew/deryke/SOBill  (this is most important!)
> and the beat goes onandonandonandonandon . . . .
>
>
>
> Quoting Mark McWhinney <msm at portata.com>:
>
> > Just off the top of my head --
> >
> > Telephone numbers of fellow Pantera owners along the route
> > Water bottles (for you and for radiator)
> > AAA card with 100 mile tow option
> > Wenches, screw drivers, and other tools
> > Volt meter w/continuity tester
> > Wire
> > Electrical tape
> > Hose clamps
> > Zip ties
> > Rain-X
> > Shop towels / rags
> > CB radio
> > Flashlight
> > First aid kit
> > Hat and suntan lotion
> > Cash
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] 
> > On
> > Behalf Of fstoye at aol.com
> > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 9:38 AM
> > To: DeTomaso at realbig.com
> > Subject: [DeTomaso] Road Trip
> >
> >   I am planning a road trip to Vegas for the Fun Run. Only this year I'm
> > driving my car. Other than the obvious things to bring, oil, spare 
> > belts,
> > jack, fuses and a Bible, any suggestions of things to bring? I have
> > purchased a great little trailer that is to be pulled behind a 
> > motorcycle,
> > as my carry all, so I have enough room for more than the car trunk.
> >
> >  Fred Stoye
> >  '72 Red
> >  #3366
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> Message: 13
> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:08:39 -0800
> From: "ROBERT SIMPSON" <r.simpson35 at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Road Trip
> To: "Pantera Group" <detomaso at realbig.com>
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> GPS, I don't leave home without it.  I have a portable Garmin, finding
> hotels, hospitals and restaurants is just a button away while traveling 
> the
> down the interstate.  The best feature is using the "Alternate Route" when
> faced with road closures or traffic because of accidents, it will 
> determine
> a new route and get you back on the road.  My biggest fear when traveling
> cross country was getting lost or trying to find a type of restaurant, no
> problem now, it'll reroute you to the establishment and get you back on 
> the
> interstate, turn by turn directions. Some of the new Garmin units have XM
> radio and traffic notification reroute systems built in along with MP3
> players.  Oh yeah, don't forget the Immodium, LOL.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <fstoye at aol.com>
> To: <DeTomaso at realbig.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 9:38 AM
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Road Trip
>
>
> >  I am planning a road trip to Vegas for the Fun Run. Only this year I'm
> > driving my car. Other than the obvious things to bring, oil, spare 
> > belts,
> > jack, fuses and a Bible, any suggestions of things to bring? I have
> > purchased a great little trailer that is to be pulled behind a 
> > motorcycle,
> > as my carry all, so I have enough room for more than the car trunk.
> >
> > Fred Stoye
> > '72 Red
> > #3366
> >
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> Message: 14
> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:12:10 -0500
> From: "Greg Landwehr" <pantera928 at bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Decklid on ebay, not for a Pantera
> To: <detomaso at realbig.com>, "John Maffeo" <johnmaffeo1 at yahoo.com>
> Message-ID: <01ba01c759fb$8b65b3b0$6101a8c0 at yourpa86z1i3g7>
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> So what are the dimensions of a Pantera decklid? Mine is in storage or I
> would measure it myself.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Maffeo" <johnmaffeo1 at yahoo.com>
> To: "mail list Pantera" <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 12:29 AM
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Decklid on ebay, not for a Pantera
>
>
> > Just thought I would pass this a long in case some is thinking of 
> > bidding
> on this item.
> >
> >   This item is listed as a fiberglass decklid for a Pantera:
> >
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Pantera-Fiberglass-Urethane-Custom-Body-Piece
> -NR_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ42611QQihZ007QQitemZ170085156250QQrdZ1
> >
> >   However, someone noted that the measurements are off......the 
> > discussion
> is here:
> >
> >   http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/7650045562/m/1250059674
> >
> >   Unless the stated measurements on ebay are incorrect, it won't fit our
> Panteras.
> >
> >   I hope this helps someone.....perhaps someone who wants their z-car to
> look more like their p-car.
> >
> >   John (procrastinating homework again) Maffeo
> >   #2647
> >
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> Message: 15
> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:17:09 -0800
> From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Road Trip
> To: "'Mark McWhinney'" <msm at portata.com>, <fstoye at aol.com>,
> <DeTomaso at realbig.com>
> Message-ID: <S5243891AbXB0BRE/20070227011705Z+555 at realbig.com>
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>
> Wenches???  Would they be serve you beer at the end of each days long 
> drive?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] 
> On
> Behalf Of Mark McWhinney
> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 10:52 AM
> To: fstoye at aol.com; DeTomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Road Trip
>
> Just off the top of my head --
>
> Telephone numbers of fellow Pantera owners along the route Water bottles
> (for you and for radiator) AAA card with 100 mile tow option Wenches, 
> screw
> drivers, and other tools Volt meter w/continuity tester Wire Electrical 
> tape
> Hose clamps Zip ties Rain-X Shop towels / rags CB radio Flashlight First 
> aid
> kit Hat and suntan lotion Cash
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] 
> On
> Behalf Of fstoye at aol.com
> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 9:38 AM
> To: DeTomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Road Trip
>
>   I am planning a road trip to Vegas for the Fun Run. Only this year I'm
> driving my car. Other than the obvious things to bring, oil, spare belts,
> jack, fuses and a Bible, any suggestions of things to bring? I have
> purchased a great little trailer that is to be pulled behind a motorcycle,
> as my carry all, so I have enough room for more than the car trunk.
>
>  Fred Stoye
>  '72 Red
>  #3366
>
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> Message: 16
> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:20:46 -0800
> From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Road Trip
> To: <fstoye at aol.com>, <DeTomaso at realbig.com>
> Message-ID: <S559672AbXB0BUc/20070227012034Z+556 at realbig.com>
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>
> Find out if you can hook up with another Pantera owner along the way or 
> with
> a group from one of the clubs.  We did this from Seattle last year, and it
> made al the difference to have a wingman to watch your 6.
> I did the entire drive with the windows down (no, not because I had to).
> Paul Rimov, who we stayed with the first night, loaned me his Bose Quiet
> Comfort II noise reduction headphones and they made a huge difference.  My
> ears were only ringing for about an hour after the drive instead of three.
>
> Mike Thomas
> Panteras Northwest
> www.panterasnorthwest.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] 
> On
> Behalf Of fstoye at aol.com
> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 9:38 AM
> To: DeTomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Road Trip
>
>   I am planning a road trip to Vegas for the Fun Run. Only this year I'm
> driving my car. Other than the obvious things to bring, oil, spare belts,
> jack, fuses and a Bible, any suggestions of things to bring? I have
> purchased a great little trailer that is to be pulled behind a motorcycle,
> as my carry all, so I have enough room for more than the car trunk.
>
>  Fred Stoye
>  '72 Red
>  #3366
>
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> Message: 17
> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:21:13 -0800
> From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Road Trip
> To: "'Mark McWhinney'" <msm at portata.com>, <fstoye at aol.com>,
> <DeTomaso at realbig.com>
> Message-ID: <S5243894AbXB0BVP/20070227012118Z+141 at realbig.com>
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> K, y?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] 
> On
> Behalf Of Mark McWhinney
> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 11:14 AM
> To: fstoye at aol.com; DeTomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Road Trip
>
> >> Wenches, screw drivers
>
> Lube
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 18
> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:38:04 -0800
> From: "Greg Jacobs" <greg.jacobs at jacobsracing.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Road Trip
> To: "'Mark McWhinney'" <msm at portata.com>, <fstoye at aol.com>,
> <DeTomaso at realbig.com>
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> My car made it two years running without incident. I drive the piss out of
> my car and it is solid and reliable.
>
> It is funny how everyone prepares for disaster. The car (with the right
> preparation) is very reliable.
>
> Sorry, just sitting here giggling as it always seems that it is an endless
> list of "what you need to take with you incase the car god strikes you 
> down
> from the heavens because you have a pantera" schtuff that everyone wants 
> to
> take with them for a drive out of state.
>
> Just get in there and fix yer cars! Ask the local club to help if needed.
>
> It's a easy car to work on.
>
> Sheesh!
>
> Greg
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] 
> On
> Behalf Of Mark McWhinney
> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 10:52 AM
> To: fstoye at aol.com; DeTomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Road Trip
>
> Just off the top of my head --
>
> Telephone numbers of fellow Pantera owners along the route
> Water bottles (for you and for radiator)
> AAA card with 100 mile tow option
> Wenches, screw drivers, and other tools
> Volt meter w/continuity tester
> Wire
> Electrical tape
> Hose clamps
> Zip ties
> Rain-X
> Shop towels / rags
> CB radio
> Flashlight
> First aid kit
> Hat and suntan lotion
> Cash
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] 
> On
> Behalf Of fstoye at aol.com
> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 9:38 AM
> To: DeTomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Road Trip
>
>   I am planning a road trip to Vegas for the Fun Run. Only this year I'm
> driving my car. Other than the obvious things to bring, oil, spare belts,
> jack, fuses and a Bible, any suggestions of things to bring? I have
> purchased a great little trailer that is to be pulled behind a motorcycle,
> as my carry all, so I have enough room for more than the car trunk.
>
>  Fred Stoye
>  '72 Red
>  #3366
>
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> Message: 19
> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:11:35 -0800
> From: "Michael Shortt" <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Road Trip
> To: "fstoye at aol.com" <fstoye at aol.com>
> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
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> After being stuck once on the side of I-95 awaiting AAA for three
> hours in 100 degree heat (plus 90% humidity), I would have paid
> $100.00 for a bottle of water.
>
> On 2/26/07, fstoye at aol.com <fstoye at aol.com> wrote:
> >  I am planning a road trip to Vegas for the Fun Run. Only this year I'm 
> > driving my car. Other than the obvious things to bring, oil, spare 
> > belts, jack, fuses and a Bible, any suggestions of things to bring? I 
> > have purchased a great little trailer that is to be pulled behind a 
> > motorcycle, as my carry all, so I have enough room for more than the car 
> > trunk.
> >
> >  Fred Stoye
> >  '72 Red
> >  #3366
> >
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>
> -- 
> Michael L. Shortt
> Savannah, Georgia
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> Message: 20
> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 18:42:21 -0800
> From: "Mark McWhinney" <msm at portata.com>
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Road Trip
> To: "'Greg Jacobs'" <greg.jacobs at jacobsracing.com>, <fstoye at aol.com>,
> <DeTomaso at realbig.com>
> Message-ID:
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> I mostly carry this stuff to help other people.  Even if your car is OK,
> there will always be some breakdown somewhere.
>
> Most breakdowns come from not from driving hard but from old age.  Even 
> with
> the best efforts, stuff happens.  Fortunately, I have always made it home
> under my own power -- in large part due to having some tools.  Over the 
> last
> few years, I have had the following put me on the side of the road for a 
> few
> minutes or a few hours.
>
> * Cable comes loose from the battery post.  Fixed without tools.
> * Cigar lighter grounds out against shift linkage blowing fuse which is
> shared with radiator fans (don't ask).  Fixed with electrical tape and new
> fuse.
> * Oil pressure sender dies causing mild panic as indicated pressure hits
> zero while in the middle of Nowhere, AZ.  Fixed with wrench and new 
> sender.
> * Loose connection on ammeter fries adjacent wires.  Fixed with a bolt to
> bypass the ammeter and a lot of electrical tape.
> * MSD tach adapter falls off mount and drags on the ground.  Fixed with 
> zip
> tie.
> * Coolant temp sender suddenly reads low.  Fixed with info from cell phone
> with Jack DeRyke on speed dial.
> * Throttle cable comes off ball joint on carb.  Fixed with safety wire.
> * Throttle cable ball joint breaks off of gas pedal.  Fixed with drill and
> tap and a borrowed ball joint.
> * Coolant barf when fans failed.  Fixed with a few bottles of water.
>
> Each time I have occasion to need a tool and do not have it, it gets added
> to the list for the next time.  Everything I take has been used at least
> once by me or someone else.
>
> Come to think of it, I have had modern cars put me on the side of the road
> over night a few times.  Just last year, I spent three lovely days in
> Bakersfield when the ignition wires fried on my 300zx at 5:01 on a Friday
> night.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg Jacobs [mailto:greg.jacobs at jacobsracing.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 5:38 PM
> To: 'Mark McWhinney'; fstoye at aol.com; DeTomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Road Trip
>
> My car made it two years running without incident. I drive the piss out of
> my car and it is solid and reliable.
>
> It is funny how everyone prepares for disaster. The car (with the right
> preparation) is very reliable.
>
> Sorry, just sitting here giggling as it always seems that it is an endless
> list of "what you need to take with you incase the car god strikes you 
> down
> from the heavens because you have a pantera" schtuff that everyone wants 
> to
> take with them for a drive out of state.
>
> Just get in there and fix yer cars! Ask the local club to help if needed.
>
> It's a easy car to work on.
>
> Sheesh!
>
> Greg
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] 
> On
> Behalf Of Mark McWhinney
> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 10:52 AM
> To: fstoye at aol.com; DeTomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Road Trip
>
> Just off the top of my head --
>
> Telephone numbers of fellow Pantera owners along the route
> Water bottles (for you and for radiator)
> AAA card with 100 mile tow option
> Wenches, screw drivers, and other tools
> Volt meter w/continuity tester
> Wire
> Electrical tape
> Hose clamps
> Zip ties
> Rain-X
> Shop towels / rags
> CB radio
> Flashlight
> First aid kit
> Hat and suntan lotion
> Cash
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] 
> On
> Behalf Of fstoye at aol.com
> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 9:38 AM
> To: DeTomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] Road Trip
>
>   I am planning a road trip to Vegas for the Fun Run. Only this year I'm
> driving my car. Other than the obvious things to bring, oil, spare belts,
> jack, fuses and a Bible, any suggestions of things to bring? I have
> purchased a great little trailer that is to be pulled behind a motorcycle,
> as my carry all, so I have enough room for more than the car trunk.
>
>  Fred Stoye
>  '72 Red
>  #3366
>
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> Message: 21
> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 01:07:55 EST
> From: LaurieFerrari at aol.com
> Subject: [DeTomaso] road trip..
> To: Detomaso at realbig.com
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Oh please.... the first Pantera event I ever attended (and that  was prior 
> to
> owning my own, mind you) someone's brake line busted, another's  wheel 
> spun
> off, a heater hose exploded, a clutch went out, cars  spewed leaks in
> multi-rainbow colors, a clutch slave cylinder pooped out,  an ignition 
> switch failed, a
> radiator sprung sieve like leaks, a gas  pedal fell off, a piston failed, 
> a
> starter motor died, a key refused  to turn, an alternator expired, a tie 
> rod
> broke, head lights wouldn't go  up, windows wouldn't go down, a rack and 
> pinion
> mount broke, a seat belt  wouldn't release, a hood blew off, a car hit a 
> tree,
> a bird clogged a turbo  system, it rained and there were no wipers, a car
> died upon  acceleration, another kept on when braking, a headliner fell 
> down
> covering a driver's face, someone backed into someone  else, a seat came 
> loose,
> an alarm got stuck, fans wouldn't engage,  a fuel hose leakage caused a 
> car to
> burn to  the ground.  In fact, the only one whose car ran  decently got a 
> DUI.
> The only reason one goes on a long trip in a Pantera  is the very same 
> reason
> Evil Kinevil flies over Cesar's  Palace.
> Have fun!
> Laurie
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------------
>
> DeTomaso] Road TripGreg Jacobs _greg.jacobs  at jacobsracing.com _
> (mailto:detomaso at list.realbig.com?Subject=[DeTomaso]%20Road%20Trip&In-Reply-To=2007022618
> 5152.3062D32C078 at smtpauth00.csee.siteprotect.com)
> Mon Feb 26 19:38:04 CST 2007
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> My car made it two years running without incident. I drive the piss out of
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> my car and it is solid and reliable.
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> It is funny how everyone prepares for disaster. The car (with the right
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> preparation) is very reliable.
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> Sorry, just sitting here giggling as it always seems that it is an endless
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> list of "what you need to take with you incase the car god strikes you 
> down
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> from the heavens because you have a pantera" schtuff that everyone wants 
> to
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> take with them for a drive out of state.
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> Just get in there and fix yer cars! Ask the local club to help if needed.
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> It's a easy car to work on.
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> Sheesh!
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> Greg
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