[DeTomaso] Seat belts

[asajay at asajay.com]

That's what I needed to hear.  I finally went out to Simpson's web  
site proper and the Avenger isn't even listed.  Looks like the choice  
of Voyager should be good.

:)

Asa Jay

Quoting Mark McWhinney <msm at portata.com>:

> The Simpson Avenger is a motorcycle helmet.  It is only "Snell M" rated.  I
> cannot imagine that the ORR folks would allow that.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
> Behalf Of asajay at asajay.com
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 12:33 PM
> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Seat belts
>
> I've been reading the rulebook and requirements for ORR and I'm going
> with a full-face SA 2005 rated helmet.  It just seems weird that I'm
> finding helmets with that rating as cheap as $150.  Currently I'm
> looking toward a Simpson Voyager or a Bell BR-1.  What got my
> attention was Simpson Avenger for a lot less money.  What should peace
> of mind cost?
>
> Asa Jay
>
> Quoting Mark McWhinney <msm at portata.com>:
>
>> I may be wrong, but I think that the belts are pretty much the same from
> one
>> brand to another.  The difference is going to be in the fasteners.  Of
>> course, the major theological question is the latch vs. cam vs. rotary.
>> Each has advantages and disadvantages.
>>
>> For the Pantera, there is also the question of where you mount the
> shoulder
>> straps.  There is a bar that the Pantera vendors sell ($100) that mounts
> on
>> the existing shoulder bolts which you mount the straps to.  It is a
> popular
>> method, but there are questions about how strong it is.  (Note: there is a
>> version of the bar for VINs under 2000 and one for over 2000.)
>>
>> For what it is worth, I went with the rotary and with the bar between the
>> bolts.
>>
>> Whatever you get be sure that it has
>> - 3 inch wide belts
>> - at least one submarine belt (5 or more point harness)
>> - a fresh date (I think the ORR folks like two years or less)
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
> On
>> Behalf Of asajay at asajay.com
>> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 11:11 AM
>> To: detomaso at realbig.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Seat belts
>>
>> Okay, sounds reasonable.
>> Next question:
>>
>> What brand do most folks use?
>> In my research so far, Simpson seems the most reasonably priced.  What
>> are the opinions of others?
>>
>> Asa Jay
>>
>> Quoting Mark McWhinney <msm at portata.com>:
>>
>>> Yep.  The harnesses are not DOT approved.  However, I have never heard of
>>> anyone getting busted for it on the street.  I think the biggest risk is
>>> getting into an injury accident where a passenger could sue you for
> having
>>> non-DOT safety equipment, even if the harness did not cause any problems.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
>> On
>>> Behalf Of asajay at asajay.com
>>> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:43 AM
>>> To: detomaso at realbig.com
>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Seat belts
>>>
>>> Okay, so I'm slacking here.  I'm looking up info on set belt and
>>> harness equipment for the Pantera (trying to prep for Silver State
>>> next year) and I come across this nice little disclaimer on Summit
>>> Racing's site:
>>>
>>> "All seat belts are for off-road use only and are not U.S. DOT
>>> approved for street use. Summit Racing makes no representation or
>>> warranty regarding the ability of this product to protect against
>>> serious injury."
>>>
>>> What the hell over?  So does that really mean your not supposed to use
>>> this kind of seat belt when you regularly drive on city streets and
>>> public highways?
>>>
>>> Seems odd to me.
>>>
>>> Asa Jay
>>>
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