[DeTomaso] Seat belts

Mark McWhinney msm at portata.com
Fri Dec 28 15:42:34 EST 2007


The Simpson Avenger is a motorcycle helmet.  It is only "Snell M" rated.  I
cannot imagine that the ORR folks would allow that.


-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
Behalf Of asajay at asajay.com
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 12:33 PM
To: detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Seat belts

I've been reading the rulebook and requirements for ORR and I'm going  
with a full-face SA 2005 rated helmet.  It just seems weird that I'm  
finding helmets with that rating as cheap as $150.  Currently I'm  
looking toward a Simpson Voyager or a Bell BR-1.  What got my  
attention was Simpson Avenger for a lot less money.  What should peace  
of mind cost?

Asa Jay

Quoting Mark McWhinney <msm at portata.com>:

> I may be wrong, but I think that the belts are pretty much the same from
one
> brand to another.  The difference is going to be in the fasteners.  Of
> course, the major theological question is the latch vs. cam vs. rotary.
> Each has advantages and disadvantages.
>
> For the Pantera, there is also the question of where you mount the
shoulder
> straps.  There is a bar that the Pantera vendors sell ($100) that mounts
on
> the existing shoulder bolts which you mount the straps to.  It is a
popular
> method, but there are questions about how strong it is.  (Note: there is a
> version of the bar for VINs under 2000 and one for over 2000.)
>
> For what it is worth, I went with the rotary and with the bar between the
> bolts.
>
> Whatever you get be sure that it has
> - 3 inch wide belts
> - at least one submarine belt (5 or more point harness)
> - a fresh date (I think the ORR folks like two years or less)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
On
> Behalf Of asajay at asajay.com
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 11:11 AM
> To: detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Seat belts
>
> Okay, sounds reasonable.
> Next question:
>
> What brand do most folks use?
> In my research so far, Simpson seems the most reasonably priced.  What
> are the opinions of others?
>
> Asa Jay
>
> Quoting Mark McWhinney <msm at portata.com>:
>
>> Yep.  The harnesses are not DOT approved.  However, I have never heard of
>> anyone getting busted for it on the street.  I think the biggest risk is
>> getting into an injury accident where a passenger could sue you for
having
>> non-DOT safety equipment, even if the harness did not cause any problems.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
> On
>> Behalf Of asajay at asajay.com
>> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:43 AM
>> To: detomaso at realbig.com
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Seat belts
>>
>> Okay, so I'm slacking here.  I'm looking up info on set belt and
>> harness equipment for the Pantera (trying to prep for Silver State
>> next year) and I come across this nice little disclaimer on Summit
>> Racing's site:
>>
>> "All seat belts are for off-road use only and are not U.S. DOT
>> approved for street use. Summit Racing makes no representation or
>> warranty regarding the ability of this product to protect against
>> serious injury."
>>
>> What the hell over?  So does that really mean your not supposed to use
>> this kind of seat belt when you regularly drive on city streets and
>> public highways?
>>
>> Seems odd to me.
>>
>> Asa Jay
>>
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