[DeTomaso] Hard brake lines

[Thomas Tornblom]

tbaranek at earthlink.net skrev:
> I found a friend with a double-flare, 45 degree kit and we cut and
> re-flared the offending line.  So I'm okay for now.
> THANKS to a great forum and quick response (and the shade tree advise on
> doing it right..exactly what I needed)!

If this happens again, I suggest you go to a VW dealer and buy a 
straight line of the correct length and bend it to fit. AFAIK the flares 
and fittings are the same for all VW and Panteras.

Thomas

> Happy Holidays!
> Tom
> 
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: Mike Thomas mbefthomas at comcast.net
> Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 10:17:06 -0800
> To: MikeLDrew at aol.com, tbaranek at earthlink.net, detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Hard brake lines
> 
> 
> It's a double flare, and the problem is that the Pantera uses a 45 degree
> flare while most of what you buy now has been flared to 37 degrees.  When I
> called around last year, the ones I talked to (Quella and Byers) said they
> would be happy to make some up for me.  Another problem you are going to run
> into is the junction block.  Since it has already been set for years to the
> flare on the end of the old line, you are going to have a very difficult
> time getting a new line to seal to the old flare in the block.  It's best to
> change the block as well.
> 
> When I refinished by engine bay this last year, I took the opportunity to
> redo the brake lines across the back of the car, and put in a
> through-bulkhead fitting with a 90 degree bend to do away with the loop
> sticking out into the engine bay.  As Mike Drew suggested, I bought 3/16"
> brake line with the right thread fittings from NAPA for next to nothing and
> hand-bent the lines myself using a broom stick held in my vice.  In the
> pictures I've attached, you will notice that I replaced the old three-way
> junction block with a two piece unit that does away with the very difficult
> near-90 degree bend of that short line on the right side as it comes out of
> the back of the stock junction block.  The two piece junction allowed me to
> eliminate that bend as well.  The other photo I've attached shows the driver
> side line with the 90 degree fittings.  The new 90 degree fittings were set
> up for 37 degree flares, but the flare tool I used was a 45 degree set.  To
> compensate, I ordered from Aircraft Spruce some aluminum flare seals that
> when placed between the male and female connections of the fittings deform
> enough to seal the flare.  I've had no leaks from day one.
> 
> I would be glad to give you more details off-forum if you wish.  Anyone else
> wishing to see the pictures of what I did, also just contact me off forum
> and I'll be glad to send them to you.
> 
> Thanks
> Mike Thomas
> Panteras Northwest 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
> Behalf Of MikeLDrew at aol.com
> Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 9:47 AM
> To: tbaranek at earthlink.net; detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Hard brake lines
> 
> 
> In a message dated 12/24/07 9 05 0, tbaranek at earthlink.net writes:
> 
> 
>> While changing brake pads and stainless steel flex brake lines I 
>> (stupidly) sheared the left rear (driver's side) fitting on the hard 
>> line.  So I'm looking for a vendor/source (part #) for the ~1 foot 
>> hard line that goes from the distribution block to the rear wheel 
>> inner fender on the left rear (driver's side).
>> Or options!
>> THANKS!
>>
> 
> I haven't looked at stock hard lines in awhile.   Do they use a single
> flare? 
>   If so, then it's child's play to go to any auto parts store and buy a
> one-foot line with the flares and fittings already attached, gently bend it
> by hand 
> and install it.   
> 
> If it uses something like double flares or bubble flares, then you'll have a
> tougher time....
> 
> Mike
> 
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