[DeTomaso] Engine/distributor questions

Thomas Tornblom Thomas.Tornblom at hax.se
Sun Dec 16 18:32:52 EST 2007


MikeLDrew at aol.com skrev:
> Hi guys, with a special ping for Dan Jones,
> 
> My buddy Stephane Bergeron in Paris, owner of pushbutton #1256, which has 
> been undergoing a slow-motion restoration complete with upgrades such as a 
> 427-inch Windsor, big brakes, etc. etc. etc., finally got tired of having a project 
> but not a Pantera, so he took the expedient of purchasing a second Pantera.
> 
> It's a 1979 Euro GTS, #9119, built on a GT5-S-style chassis.   
> 
> http://members.aol.com/mikeldrew/StephanePanteraGTS.zip
> 
> The previous owner had picked it up with a forklift and stuck it high up on a 
> mezzanine in a warehouse where it then sat for more than ten years.   So 
> Stephane now has to recommission it for the road.
> 
> The questions he/I have are:
> 
> 1)   What kind of 351C is this car likely to have?   As a 1979 model I would 
> think that it was built with an Australian 351C, but I know not all "Aussie" 
> motors are equal.   Some are quite desirable, others are dogs.   How can he 
> tell what he has?   Aren't there some fitment issues with motors of this period, 
> i.e. non-standard distributors?   Thomas, didn't you have all sorts of fun and 
> games with this one?

My stock aussie 351C came with an electronic hall australian 
Bosch-Motorcraft distributor, and that would be an easy thing to ID.

The difference between this block and the US blocks is that the 
distributor pilot hole in the block is 0.49" instead if the US blocks 
0.51". I turned down the US 460 EFI distributor when I installed the 
EFI, but had to find an unmolested EFI dist for the US loaner I ran one 
season.

The lifter valley also has X:es and Y:s cast from end to end when some 
US blocks only has them in the corners, if at all.

The casting numbers are the same, as is the CF logo in the rear.

The casting numbers on my OC 2V heads starts with ARD though, but you 
need to remove the intake and use a mirror so see that. The date code on 
my heads are 21H0. I assume that means Aug 21, 1980.

The date code would probably show a date past end of US production. Mine 
is cast in 1979.

> 
> 2)   He wants to replace the stock dual-point ignition system.   The default 
> answer seems to be small-base MSD distributor, but the ones I have (and have 
> seen) have mechanical advance only.   Does anybody know if MSD is making a 
> small-base distributor with a vacuum advance setup?   Also, MSD makes a 'ready to 
> run' distributor, which does what exactly?   Get rid of the need for an 
> external MSD6AL box, integrating those electronics into the body of the distributor 
> itself?   What other ignition suggestions might you have?   Remember that r
> eliability is crucial, as you can't pop into your neighborhood Kragen's to pick 
> up spare parts in rural France!
> 
> Stephane isn't on the forum so please hit 'reply all' with your answers so he 
> can get them directly.
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help!
> 
> Mike
> 

Cheers,
Thomas

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