[DeTomaso] FW: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
Christopher Kimball
chrisvkimball at msn.com
Sun Dec 16 15:07:02 EST 2007
Dear Tomas,
Unfortunately, my reply never made it to your email in box--I don't know why, so I'm sending my reply to the forum in the hopes you'll pick it up there (see below).
Thanks,
Chris
#3846
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To: chrisvkimball at msn.com
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 08:20:49 -0800
Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
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From: chrisvkimball at msn.com
To: guson at home.se
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] If it's broke, don't fix it...
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 08:10:14 -0800
Dear Tomas,
That's really interesting--thanks for the picture. The question I have, though, is what is the switching mechanism you use? My car is a manual, cable actuated plunger arrangement with no wires or electrical anything! I have nothing which to attach any wires.
Is your Pantera a later model with an electrically actuated heater switch?
Thanks,
Chris
#33846
From: guson at home.se
To: chrisvkimball at msn.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] If it's broke, don't fix it...
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 16:40:45 +0100
Chris,
Here's where I mounted my thermostat. It's about the size
of a cigarette pack and it's intended for room temperature regulation. I zip
tied it to the heater tubing IIRC. It weighs very little anyway. It has about 1
C hystresis. It's set to 22 C which is about 70 F and I never change it. I
simply pulled the wires from my stock switch and put one at the thermostat
(with a bit of extension of course) and the other at my dash switch.
Then there's a wire from the switch to the thermostat of course.
Tomas
----- Original Message -----
From:
Christopher
Kimball
To: Tomas Gunnarsson
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 1:41
AM
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] If it's broke,
don't fix it...
That's great, thanks.
I think what I may do once I
see your schematic and become familiar with the thermostat you used, is to
check for a small, digital one I can somehow mount in the dash in place
of the stock air conditioning switch. That way I can just use it without
the need for an additional switch.
Of course, we all know what happens
to the best laid plans of mice, men and Pantera
owners!
Sincerely,
Chris
3846i
> From:
guson at home.se
> To: chrisvkimball at msn.com
> Subject: Re:
[DeTomaso] If it's broke, don't fix it..
> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007
21:11:54 +0100
>
> That sounds fascinating--I'd love to know how
you did it . If you have any information, please feel free to forward it to
me(wiring, switch type, etc.). I'd like to do the same thing in my
car.
>
> >Sure, I'll get some pics and a schematic.
>
> One question, though; why would you need an "always on"
switch--wouldn't you just need to set the thermostat to a low temp setting to
achieve the same thing?
>
> >Valid question. You're right but
I can't see the thermostat from the drivers seat. It's set once and I never
change it. The forced on setting is rarely used but comes in handy as a
demisting device once in a while.
>
> Tomas
>
>
> From: guson at home.se
> > To: detomaso at realbig.com
>
> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 12:15:17 +0100
> > Subject: Re:
[DeTomaso] If it's broke, don't fix it...
> >
> > I got
tired of the stock AC control unit and replaced it with an ordinary room
thermostat. I have a three way switch that enables me to choose "off",
"thermostat control" and "always on" for the AC compressor. I was surprised
how well it works with respect to temperature gradient in the car. I mounted
the thermostat next to the fan intake above the accelerator.
> >
> > Tomas
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Christopher Kimball"
<chrisvkimball at msn.com>
> > To: <jderyke at aol.com>;
<jab at cisco.com>; <detomaso at realbig.com>
> > Sent: Sunday,
November 25, 2007 2:18 AM
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] If it's broke,
don't fix it..
> >
> >
> > >
> >
> Thanks for the info--mine is the bent rod variety.
> > >
> > > I will probably set aside a Saturday to take a look at
taking the thing apart, although I really am a bit nervous since I don't know
what I'm doing.
> > >
> > > Of course, if I totally
screw up the heater, I guess that will give me the impetus to do what I've
always wanted to do with the Pantera, and that is replace the entire heating
and air conditioning system with a digital control that operates with a
thermostat like my modern cars have.
> > >
> > > That
will mean taking the dash out, so maybe while it's out I should get it
recovered in black leather to match the headliner and bulkhead. And while
that's going on, maybe I could take out the seats and get them recovered, too,
and then, maybe I could...
> > >
> > > By the way,
the lever isn't broken on my current heater, it's the casing around the cable
that broke. There's a little clamp that holds the cable in place, and it
clamps to the casing. Now that the casing is broken, there's nothing to hold
the cable in place, so it just moves, casing and all, when I move the lever.
If I ever do remove the dash, I'm pretty sure I could just replace the
cable.
> > >
> > > Thanks again for your
help!
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > Chris
> > > 3846
> > >
>
> > PS: To make myself feel better today, I installed the hood lock pins
in the back to help stabilize the back deck. While I had the taillights out, I
cleaned them all up, especially the lenses, and glued a few small cracks I
found in them, too. So, two steps forward, one step back!
> > >
> > > From: JDeRyke at aol.com
> > > Date: Sat, 24 Nov
2007 15:08:33 -0500
> > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] If it's broke,
don't fix it...
> > > To: chrisvkimball at msn.com; jab at cisco.com;
detomaso at realbig.com
> > >
> > > Chris, in my long
reply, I forgot to mention that there are two different water heater valves
possible, depending on the year. One has a simple bent rod that serves as the
on/off lever while the second one has a flat sheet-metal lever that rides in a
cam-slot cut into the brass heater valve top. Once disassembled, the guts are
the same and the same o-ring is used. Chuck Engals wrote an article on
repairing his valve some decades ago after much the same experience as you
had. Or, there are replacement valves available at all the vendors, as well as
good used dashboard heater levers. Just be careful to 'back up' the wrench
used to remove the valve, or its possible to crack the copper tube its
fastened to. Good luck- J DeRyke
> > >
> > >
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