[DeTomaso] Cracker in Georgia Re: Jiffy Lube - NPC
adin at frontier.net
adin at frontier.net
Tue Aug 28 10:26:07 EDT 2007
Isn't it odd how things have different meaning for different people?
For instance, Mr Shortt's use of the common term for anus. I'm pretty
sure his definition would not match mine.
As mentioned previously, there are damn few people on this list, if
any, that I agree with. There are damn few I like or respect. I am
pretty sure this attitude is mutual, probably without exception.
Just remember this when you need help, you are bound to get the
"membership" lecture, or the archives rant, or some slacker talk,
maybe some off color joke from Ohio . . . or all of these things - but
one of these folks, that you don't like for one or 17 reasons, will
come forward and take the time to help you out. By help, I don't mean
some lame one liner and a link either. Help: as in a phone call and
20 minutes on how things should work; as in a post that takes 10
minutes to read and digest (never mind write) based on years of
experience and is right on; help as in spending hours doing a favor
for a stranger. What I'm getting at here is almost without exception,
everyone who as ever agitated me has also come to my aid.
Of course, some folks don't need any help . . ever.
Are the TPR guys really the favorite target of gastroenterologists
everywhere? Most likley. Offensive and tiresome, you bet. Just
don't forget they will appreciate your efforts, take you into their
home, help you prep your car, buy you a beer, paint your toenails
(thanks Tom), and fight a room full of corvette owners for you.
Write it if you must, think about it hard and long, and remember the
delete button.
David in Durango,
TPR member, Pantera DRIVER & asshole.
(I am more grouchy than most and have the dirtiest car -get over it)
Hula Ho0p champ in training for 2010 Olympics.
Quoting Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera at yahoo.com>:
> cracker and race wannabe
>
> Michael Shortt <michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I am not covered in salt, therefore I am not a cracker, if by
> cracker you mean white man and that is your way of calling me a
> ni**er, a ki**, a w*p, or a sp**, then by all means let the
> expletives fly. I expect no less of you, name calling is an
> unfortunate side effect of a limited vocabulary.
>
> Yes, I have a documented nicely built engine and lots of race
> experience on the East Coast, real racing against other cars at the
> same time on a race tracks, not a one at a time speed runs against a
> clock on an otherwise empty road.
> Not that I wouldn't mind doing that, it sounds like fun, but it is
> no more racing that a Bonneville run.
>
> If you want to come to Georgia to kick my ass, bring all those
> friends, you'll need them.
>
> With regard to the original email, I searched for Scott Black and
> in the last 18 months I did not see a single entry on the list, the
> list is often used by interlopers to post nonsense, nevertheless for
> any professional, esp one who makes a living that building the
> reputations of others, to slam an entire chain of independent
> franchisees because some Californians are too stupid to keep an eye
> on their car in a 30 minute lube shop was unfair. 99% of those
> people are honest, hard working people just trying to make a buck
> and get through life one day at a time. The story was an old story
> and while true in those instances, it doesn't make it true
> nationally. Had the email said to avoid a particular location or
> franchise owner, then it would have been appropriate.
>
> If you subscribe to lumping everybody together in a big group and
> slamming them, then I guess I could say that all Team Pantera owners
> are assholes, when really I mean just one.
>
> But that would be rude, stupid and unfair, so I won't do that.
>
> I was one of the people that spent hours looking for any
> confirmation of your recent so-called accident and subsequent death,
> this is how you repay concern for a fellow Pantera enthusiast. F Y!
>
>
> Michael in Savannah
>
>
>
> On 8/25/07, Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hey Cracker,
>
> Ain't you the cracker with the 550 HP Cleveland, lots of race
> experience that no one can ever remember seeing?
>
> Get your cracker ass out to Pocono, Nebraska Texas, Nevada or
> California....there's a bunch of loyal Scott Black friends who all
> now want to kick your ass.
>
> You dumb ass!
>
> Mad Dawg Antenucci
> Team Pantera Racing
> "If it was easy you'd do it"
>
>
>
> Michael Shortt <michaelsavga at gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't know you Scott, through my search of the last 24 months of Detomaso
> List postings I can't find another post by you. You may very well have the
> best of intentions.
>
> However, as a PR Professional (?), your rehashing of old news ( that was on
> Dateline 3 years ago ) seems highly irresponsible, leading me to question
> your motives, seeing that your business targets the automotive marketplace
> does nothing to remove any doubt, nothing like creating a problem that you
> can offer to help fix for a fee.
>
> There are crooks in every business, yes even PR firms and Jiffy Lube
> franchisees, but to use a broad brush to paint all of them as being such is
> nothing more than over the backyard fence fearmongering. You above all
> others should know that to be true.
>
> Anybody who has their car serviced at any dealership of any kind, esp. one
> that promises 30 min or less, and goes and sits on their ass and watches TV
> instead of watching their car probably deserves whatever they get. There is
> no excuse for the crooks, they should have been arrested, that is nothing
> more than stealing, but a smart consumer would be watching and would ALWAYS
> request your parts. I personally ask for the new oil filter and date it
> myself with a sharpie "for my own records". Fluids changes can be checks by
> examining the dipstick for the color of the replacement fluids and lastly if
> they don't meet your expectations, refuse to pay until proof has been
> furnished, the last thing they want is a car blocking the bay or the police
> to show up if they are indeed crooks, too much attention and the last thing
> a crook wants is attention.
>
> Trust is overrated, knowing for sure is always the best route to take and if
> you're too sorry, too unskilled, or like me, lack the space for a backyard
> buddy so that I could easily do those routine things myself, then it is your
> responsibility to look out for number one. Nobody else ever will.
>
> Michael in Savannah
>
>
> On 8/24/07, Art Stephens wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Scott. I don't do business with them and it looks like I
>> never will!
>>
>> Art
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "scott black"
>> To: "DeTomaso A"
>> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 7:53 PM
>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Jiffy Lube - NPC
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > 4 minute video of California Jiffy Lubes at work....do business with
>> any
>> > Jiffy's in your town?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> http://mfile.akamai.com/12924/wmv/vod.ibsys.com/2006/0503/9152183.200k.asx
>> >
>> > Scott Black
>> >
>> >
>> > TimePiece Public Relations
>> > Dallas - Houston - New York
>> > www.timepiecepr.com
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