[DeTomaso] GPS-navigator
Thomas Tornblom
Thomas.Tornblom at hax.se
Mon Aug 27 12:19:54 EDT 2007
Jäckel+Partner skrev:
> Thomas,
> Sorry it's in German, but this is the law:
>
> StVO: Paragraf 23, Absatz 1b
> "Dem Führer eines Kraftfahrzeuges ist es untersagt, ein technisches
> Gerät zu betreiben oder betriebsbereit mitzuführen, das dafür bestimmt
> ist, Verkehrsüberwachungsmaßnahmen anzuzeigen oder zu stören. Das gilt
> insbesondere auch für Geräte zur Störung oder Anzeige von
> Geschwindigkeitsmessungen (Radarwarn- oder Laserstörgeräte)."
> If you can translate it, you will know, that it is forbidden.
Okay, seems you're right :-)
I found a message where someone said it was banned also in Austria, I
guess they copy everything you Germans come up with :-)
I guess I better clean out the german and austrian speed cams from the
data base then. Although it seems they don't bother fining non Germans,
or at least not Swedes. I have been flashed twice in Germany during the
club trips, and not received any tickets.
>
> Yours,
>
> Roland
Cheers,
Thomas
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: "Thomas Tornblom"
> <Thomas.Tornblom at hax.se>
> An: "Jäckel+Partner" <info at detomaso.de>
> Cc: <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Gesendet: Montag, 27. August 2007 17:56
> Betreff: Re: [DeTomaso] GPS-navigator
>
>
> Are you sure you're not confusing this with a radar detector?
>
> Those are illegal in many countries, even in Sweden, and they also
> appear to be illegal in Germany. I have not found anything that says
> that a GPS that warns about speed cams solely with the aid of camera
> coordinates is illegal, although it appears they are illegal in
> Switzerland.
>
> http://www.roadangel.co.uk/products/eudata/index.html
>
> The above link says they have removed the data for Switzerland to comply
> with Swiss law. Given that they have German data I assume they have
> determined that it is legal in Germany.
>
> Cheers,
> Thomas
>
> Jäckel+Partner skrev:
>> Real likely,
>> They see when you speed down in front of a camera, then they take your
>> GPS away and investigate for the program. They give you the
>> oppurtunity to say "yes it's in" if you say no, you have to pay also
>> for the computer specialist, whitch is here around 3000 Euro plus you
>> fine and taken away GPS.
>> I have seen someone with tears in his eyes just two weeks ago. And..
>> the police knows pretty well, whitch systems can add that program.
>> Don't think they are fools. Sometimes they have more knowledge, we all
>> want. Italien, Swiss, Austrian and for sure French policemen are way
>> more strict if it comes to fine foreign people.
>> Roland
>>
>> Interesting, but I see that as being basically an unenforceable law.
>> If you have a dedicated GPS radar detector, I can see how that device
>> could
>> be illegal. But the majority of the GPS radar warning systems are
>> add-ons to
>> a navagation program. Mine uses TomTom and a Points of Interest file - it
>> beeps when I approach the "POI" of a fixed radar. A police officer would
>> have to be fairly computer literate to find the database on my PDA. Since
>> the file name is gibberish, he'd have to activate one POI at a time
>> and see
>> if any coincide with a fixed radar.
>> Theoretically possible but not real likely.
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