[DeTomaso] Fw: New Engine

Will Demelo wdemelo at cogeco.ca
Fri Aug 17 22:47:21 EDT 2007


550 at the wheels? Wow! Naturally or forced? What are your engine details?
Will

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Shortt" <michaelsavga at gmail.com>
To: "Mark McWhinney" <msm at portata.com>
Cc: "List DeTomaso" <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Engine


> I've got all that at 550 hp at the wheels, well don't know about the 
> durable
> yet, but hey it still gets 12 city/17 highway and I stayed at a Holiday 
> Inn
> Express last night!
>
> Michael in Savannah
>
>
> On 8/14/07, Mark McWhinney <msm at portata.com> wrote:
>>
>> Given Trevor's requirements, is a Cleveland block even in the running?
>>
>> 1) 430-500 HP
>> 2) Durable
>> 3) Streetable
>> 4) Spirited driving with some drag runs
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
>> On
>> Behalf Of JDeRyke at aol.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 12:18 PM
>> To: trevor at fougere.com; detomaso at realbig.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] New Engine
>>
>> In a message dated 8/14/07 1:06:51 AM, trevor at fougere.com writes:
>>
>> <<....50% compression loss.  Coolant in the oil. Coolant in the exhaust.
>> The
>> same cylinder that necessitated a rebuild approx 3-5,000 miles and two
>> owners
>> ago.  Haven't taken the heads off yet, but I'm expecting more bad
>> news.....
>> >>
>>
>> Worst case- start looking for a new core-engine now; coolant in the oil
>> very
>>
>> likely means the cylinder wall is cracked, or (less likely) a head is
>> cracked.
>> A 50% compression drop may mean a thin piece of cylinder wall has blown
>> into
>>
>> the water jacket; this happened to us with a silver-dollar sized chunk of
>> wall
>> during a competition event, from a simple backfire on an engine bored
>> 0.030-over. Ford said that Clevelands should not be overbored AT ALL and
>> only offered
>> 0.003-over pistons for home-fitting.
>>
>> Once you find a block, have it cleaned and sonic-checked for thin 
>> cylinder
>> walls.  Wall thicknesses below 0.080" means the thing is only safe to use
>> in
>> a
>> truck or as a lawn ornament, not as a high-horsepower engine. Most
>> previously
>> overbored blocks are in this category. Blocks with enough wall thickness
>> these
>> days are few & far between- see the archives thread by Pat Orlando, Allan
>> Foster and others who lost 351-Cs and had to spend much time finding a
>> suitable
>> core to work with. Many cautious owners have stockpiled a couple of good
>> core-engines for such future disasters.
>> Also, changing to a 351W does not guarantee the thin-block syndrome will
>> not
>>
>> reoccur. Sonic-test all Fords! And find a builder who is familiar with 
>> the
>> peculiarities of the early-'70s Ford V-8s.
>> Good luck (or at least better luck than you've recently had!) -J DeRyke
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