[DeTomaso] Selling my "old style" wheels and tires
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Sun Apr 1 13:12:44 EDT 2007
Gotta clear out the garage a little.
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4. Re: NO REAR BRAKES MANGUSTA / Dick Ruzzin (Tomas Gunnarsson)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 11:40:18 EDT
From: Dickruzzindesign at aol.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] NO REAR BRAKES MANGUSTA / Dick Ruzzin
To: Detomaso at realbig.com
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Maybe someone can give me some advice on this one before I go forward.
I have installed new flexible brake hoses and the neat little bleeders with
check valves.
I bled the front brakes, there was a lot of air in both systems as a result
of the hose replacement on all four calipers.
Did a lot of pumping of the brake pedal, I could feel something when the
pedal went about two-thirds of the way down, there was also a noise. This
happened
every time I pumped the pedal.
The pedal is up now after the bleeding of the fronts, the front fluid is
clear of air.
I went to the rear, No fluid came out of the left rear caliper when I
pumped
the pedal with the bleeder open.
I checked the fluid in the bottles, all were full. I thought the new hose
might be blocked so went to the right rear.
No fluid. I opened the brake pipe at the rear T connection coming directly
from the master cylinder, no fluid to the rear.
Obviously something happened to the rear master cylinder while the pedal
was
being pumped.
I took the cover off the pedal box, no leaking fluid either there or on the
floor under the pedals.
Any one ever experience this, any theories?
Thanks for the help.
Dick Ruzzin
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 12:33:34 -0500
From: "Larry - Ohio Time Corp." <larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Low Weber intake
To: "Mark Tumbarello" <ollerabmut at msn.com>, <asajay at asajay.com>,
<detomaso at realbig.com>
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Hi Mark,
I do not think so. They still stick to far back. I cannot see them getting
so low that the air cleaner will fit under the deck lid.
I have see a deck trimmer all the way across and it did not looked trimmed.
Larry - Cleveland
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Tumbarello" <ollerabmut at msn.com>
To: <asajay at asajay.com>; <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Low Weber intake
> can you run webers without cutting the deck lid?
>
>
>>From: asajay at asajay.com
>>To: detomaso at realbig.com
>>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Low Weber intake
>>Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 14:53:57 -0800
>>
>>Will,
>>
>>Can you send a direct link for this posting? That would make it
>>easier to reply to.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Asa Jay
>>
>>Quoting Will Demelo <wdemelo at cogeco.ca>:
>>
>> > Again, from the PI board.... If you're interested, get on board
>>(literally).
>> > Will
>> >
>> > There has been a thread about this manifold in the engine forum
>> > below. In case you weren't following I'll provide the full story
>> > here. There was a manifold manufactured years ago in Australia by a
>> > man named John Cain, designed for the 351C with 2V heads, that was
>> > an individual runner manifold for Weber 48 IDF carburetors.
>> >
>> > What you are used to seeing on Panteras are Weber 48IDA carburetors.
>> > The 48IDA is a racing carburetor with an idle circuit and a main
>> > circuit (for wide open throttle). It is a very tall carburetor
>> > designed with racing in mind, and has no provision for air
>> > filtration. Achieving decent part throttle response requires
>> > skillful blending of the idle metering circuit and the main metering
>> > circuit. In contrast, the 48IDF is a street carburetor, it has been
>> > original equipment on certain sports cars (such as Porsche) in the
>> > days before fuel injection. It is a more compact, less tall
>> > carburetor that has an intermediate metering circuit for proper and
>> > reliable part throttle performance. It is also designed to be used
>> > with air filter assemblies and Weber actually makes a line of air
>> > filter assemblies for this carburetor.
>> >
>> > The manifold designed by John Cain has three appealing factors, (1)
>> > it is low enough, that used in conjunction with the 48 IDF carbys
>> > and the Weber air filters, the whole assembly will squeeze in below
>> > the Pantera engine screen. (2) The 48 IDF carbys perform better on
>> > the street than the 48 IDA. (3) You can have air filters to protect
>> > your motor from inhaling dust.
>> >
>> > This manifold has been out of production for years. An Australian
>> > gentleman named Mark, owning a company named Aussie Speed, has
>> > acquired the rights to reproduce the John Cain line of intake
>> > manifolds. I have approached him and he has began working on
>> > preparing to reproduce the Cain 48 IDF Weber intake manifold for the
>> > 351C. He is making a change to the design, by adding additional
>> > flange material above the intake port, the manifold (designed for 2V
>> > heads) will bolt up to 4V heads without leaking air. This is a
>> > rather common practice in Australia for 351C intake manifolds.
>> >
>> > The price shall be $750 AUD, $605 USD at today's exchange rate, 10%
>> > discount for orders of 2 to 5, which lowers the price down to $545
>> > USD. Shipping is extra via UPS or Australian Postal. Mark could not
>> > quote an availablity date because the manifold is being modified for
>> > use with either 2V or 4V heads, he said he would have a better idea
>> > in 2 or 3 weeks.
>> >
>> > So, at a price of $545 USD plus shipping, who is interested in a
>> > Weber 48IDF intake manifold that will allow the Webers to fit below
>> > the engine screen with air filters attached!
>> >
>> > Besides the iron 2V & 4V heads, this intake will work with
>> > Australian 2V (i.e. 302C) heads, the alloy 2V heads from Edelbrock,
>> > CHI or AFD, and by elongating the manifold bolt holes it will work
>> > with the CHI 3V head too (although it will sit higher with the 3V
>> > heads and possibly not fit below the engine screen).
>> >
>> > If you've ever said to yourself you would like to install Webers on
>> > your Pantera IF ONLY they weren't so fussy to tune & keep tuned; or
>> > IF ONLY they could fit below the engine screen; now is your
>> > opportunity, for $545 plus shipping, to purchase a manifold that
>> > will solve those problems by allowing use of the proper carburetor.
>> >
>> > I must hear from Julian & Marcus, if they are still interested. I
>> > also welcome other SERIOUS buyers to chime in and be counted. If we
>> > get more than 5 buyers, Mark has promised to negotiate an even
>> > better discount for us.
>> >
>> > cowboy from hell
>> > George Pence
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 09:45:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mad Dog Antenucci <teampantera at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Mad Dog on the hot seat
To: Dan Courtney <dfcex at pacbell.net>, detomaso at realbig.com
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Geez, don't be a hater Crazy Dan.
This must mean you fixed your engine again. ;-]
md
Dan Courtney <dfcex at pacbell.net> wrote:
FINALLY someone has challenged Mad Dog to step up like a man, stop being
a slacker and drive in a REAL race (Pahrumph).
I love it!
What's the matter MD, can't handle an event with turns and passing? It's
OK, we can take up a donation and buy you a set of Depends undergarments.
Afraid the "Purple Flame" can't hold it's own when all the cars start with
less than a minute of spacing?
The first vintage team to make like the Foster's Farms chickens and
hightail.
If you are not on the edge, you are not on the edge.
Dan'
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 18:47:37 +0200
From: "Tomas Gunnarsson" <guson at home.se>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NO REAR BRAKES MANGUSTA / Dick Ruzzin
To: <Dickruzzindesign at aol.com>, <Detomaso at realbig.com>
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I have only a theory. The rear master piston could have stuck in the "in"
position, possibly causing the noise in the process.
Tomas
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Sent: den 31 mars 2007 17:40
Subject: [DeTomaso] NO REAR BRAKES MANGUSTA / Dick Ruzzin
> Maybe someone can give me some advice on this one before I go forward.
>
> I have installed new flexible brake hoses and the neat little bleeders
with
> check valves.
>
> I bled the front brakes, there was a lot of air in both systems as a
result
> of the hose replacement on all four calipers.
>
> Did a lot of pumping of the brake pedal, I could feel something when the
> pedal went about two-thirds of the way down, there was also a noise. This
happened
> every time I pumped the pedal.
>
> The pedal is up now after the bleeding of the fronts, the front fluid is
> clear of air.
> I went to the rear, No fluid came out of the left rear caliper when I
pumped
> the pedal with the bleeder open.
> I checked the fluid in the bottles, all were full. I thought the new hose
> might be blocked so went to the right rear.
>
> No fluid. I opened the brake pipe at the rear T connection coming
directly
> from the master cylinder, no fluid to the rear.
>
> Obviously something happened to the rear master cylinder while the pedal
was
> being pumped.
>
> I took the cover off the pedal box, no leaking fluid either there or on
the
> floor under the pedals.
>
> Any one ever experience this, any theories?
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Dick Ruzzin
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 12:46:40 -0500
From: "Larry - Ohio Time Corp." <larry at ohiotimecorp.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NO REAR BRAKES MANGUSTA / Dick Ruzzin
To: <Dickruzzindesign at aol.com>, <Detomaso at realbig.com>
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Hi Dick,
I have seen a seal get ripped during bleeding. What happens is that the
peddle goes down lower then normal. When this happens the piston goes
deeper
into MC. There may be some crud/crap/gunk build up in this area that the
piston normally does not travel. During bleeding you have a habit of
pushing
the peddle to far in. The seal the hits this build up and rips it.
Just a maybe.
Larry - Cleveland
----- Original Message -----
From: <Dickruzzindesign at aol.com>
To: <Detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 10:40 AM
Subject: [DeTomaso] NO REAR BRAKES MANGUSTA / Dick Ruzzin
> Maybe someone can give me some advice on this one before I go forward.
>
> I have installed new flexible brake hoses and the neat little bleeders
> with
> check valves.
>
> I bled the front brakes, there was a lot of air in both systems as a
> result
> of the hose replacement on all four calipers.
>
> Did a lot of pumping of the brake pedal, I could feel something when the
> pedal went about two-thirds of the way down, there was also a noise. This
> happened
> every time I pumped the pedal.
>
> The pedal is up now after the bleeding of the fronts, the front fluid is
> clear of air.
> I went to the rear, No fluid came out of the left rear caliper when I
> pumped
> the pedal with the bleeder open.
> I checked the fluid in the bottles, all were full. I thought the new hose
> might be blocked so went to the right rear.
>
> No fluid. I opened the brake pipe at the rear T connection coming directly
> from the master cylinder, no fluid to the rear.
>
> Obviously something happened to the rear master cylinder while the pedal
> was
> being pumped.
>
> I took the cover off the pedal box, no leaking fluid either there or on
> the
> floor under the pedals.
>
> Any one ever experience this, any theories?
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Dick Ruzzin
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 10:24:47 -0700
From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay at asajay.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] Leno, on automotive technology
To: detomaso at realbig.com
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http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/jay_leno_garage/2847426.html
Asa Jay Laughton, MSgt, USAFR, Retired
& Shelley Marie
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 10:25:02 -0700
From: "John Bentley \(jab\)" <jab at cisco.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Mad Dog on the hot seat
To: "Mad Dog Antenucci" <teampantera at yahoo.com>, "Dan Courtney"
<dfcex at pacbell.net>, <detomaso at realbig.com>
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Naaah, Dan usually waits till getting to the event before getting his
car ready! :)
There is no such thing as only one REAL racing. Everyone has their own
idea about what is a REAL race. Didn't some famous REAL racer say
"rubbin is racin" (NASCAR). If you are "really" racing (as in a track
event) you better be ready for some "rubbin" and maybe even some bumpin.
I think that's why you don't see many Panteras in a "REAL" race. The
chances of body damage in ORR is really, really small.....and its not
likely you'll spin out into a tree or a k-rail. To each, his own.
JB
MD already wears grampers....... :)
-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
On Behalf Of Mad Dog Antenucci
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 9:45 AM
To: Dan Courtney; detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Mad Dog on the hot seat
Geez, don't be a hater Crazy Dan.
This must mean you fixed your engine again. ;-]
md
Dan Courtney <dfcex at pacbell.net> wrote:
FINALLY someone has challenged Mad Dog to step up like a man, stop
being a slacker and drive in a REAL race (Pahrumph).
I love it!
What's the matter MD, can't handle an event with turns and passing? It's
OK, we can take up a donation and buy you a set of Depends
undergarments.
Afraid the "Purple Flame" can't hold it's own when all the cars start
with less than a minute of spacing?
The first vintage team to make like the Foster's Farms chickens and
hightail.
If you are not on the edge, you are not on the edge.
Dan'
Dan F. Courtney
Excalibur Commercial Real Estate Services
La Jolla, CA
Phone (858) 551-5455
Fax (858) 551-5456
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 13:46:49 EDT
From: SOBill at aol.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NO REAR BRAKES MANGUSTA / Dick Ruzzin
To: Dickruzzindesign at aol.com
Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
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My GUESS: The master cylinder piston is stuck forward. If the piston
doesn't
retract when you release the brake pedal, the inlet port from the master
cylinder reservoir will not be uncovered and no fluid will get to the
brake
lines.
In some master cylinders, the front and rear piston are separate parts
with
a rod/spring combination which causes them to move forward. The forward
most
piston can get stuck while the rearmost piston works just fine.
SOBill Taylor
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 14:01:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ken Green <kenn_green at yahoo.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] NPC Fwd: F-16 vs Woodpecker
To: detomaso at realbig.com
Message-ID: <265873.15291.qm at web30807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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I realize the attachement will be stripped, but if anyone wants to see the
video, let me know and I will forward it.
Ken
Note: forwarded message attached.
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 14:54:19 EDT
From: MikeLDrew at aol.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NO REAR BRAKES MANGUSTA / Dick Ruzzin
To: Dickruzzindesign at aol.com, Detomaso at realbig.com
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In a message dated 3/31/07 7:41:05, Dickruzzindesign at aol.com writes:
<< Any one ever experience this, any theories? >>
>>>Master cylinders typically have a range of motion, from 'brakes off' to
"oh crap some idiot just turned left in front of me!"
The cylinder is bored its full length, but the seals only travel back and
forth over a portion of that distance. That portion of the master cylinder
is
nice and smooth, but beyond that, it is common for pitting and rust to
develop,
especially if the fluid hasn't been changed every two years like they say
you
are supposed to.
(And has ANY of us ever really changed all their brake fluid on all their
cars every two years? I know *I* haven't!!!)
So. Now you have opened up the system and are refreshing it. When pumping
the pedal, presumably it went to the floor--that meant that the seals went
past
their happy spots into uncharted territory. Chances are that the 'step'
you
felt was the seals suddenly encountering a portion of the bore that looked
like the dark side of the moon. And then the seals got torn to shreds, and
now
your master cylinder is toast. :<(
If you remove it, you might be able to have it honed or sleeved, and
rebuilt, but they are common Girling units, so it is probably more
economical to
replace it. You just need to know what the bore diameter is.
That's my guess, FWIW. Please let us know what you find out--I'd be
interested to know if I'm right, or way out in left field....
Good luck!
Mike
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 13:10:35 -0700
From: "Greg Jacobs" <greg.jacobs at jacobsracing.com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Vin Diesels Dad
To: "'Ryan Way'" <ryanway at sbcglobal.net>, <detomaso at realbig.com>
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You know he is actually gay and is all peeved for being type cast for all
the macho hero roles? That is why he took a stab a comedy with the
pacifier...no shit, true story.
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From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
Behalf Of Ryan Way
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 9:44 AM
To: detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: [DeTomaso] Vin Diesels Dad
>The Fast and the Furious ( part 1 ) features perhaps the dumbest line in
any
>auto themed movie in history... Vin Diesel talking to the star Paul Walker
>about his now dead father, the DRAG RACER of the blown Dodge Charger, "He
>went into the first turn and hit the wall"
>
>What a dumb ass!, maybe that's why he's dead, the whole idea is to go in a
>straight line.
>The writer should be forced to eat marbles and drink nitro!
>
VIn Diesel's Dad in "The Fast and the Furious" was a STOCK CAR driver who
was put into the wall. He built the 69 Charger drag racer as a father son
project.
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 18:33:25 -0500
From: <zumzum at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] NO REAR BRAKES MANGUSTA / Dick Ruzzin
To: Detomaso at realbig.com, Dickruzzindesign at aol.com
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Hello Dick, what others are saying about the master bore issue should be
true in your case as long as you had a prior tight pedal. You may have
damaged the piston seal or if the secondary ( rear brakes ) piston is a
floater dependent on fluid pressure, then it got stuck in the corroded bore
and is not retracting so as to suck in fluid. Pull apart the master and
inspect or block off the front pipes with a plug or pinchers and see if the
higher pressure can free up the master piston. Also you can back pressure
the rear lines at the bleeders with high psi shop air to unstick the piston
then use a large cfm a/c vacuum pump to move fluid and air out through the
lines. In the recent past I did this to bleed my difficult Espada dual
servo system with great results. The noise you heard most likely was the
piston hitting the bore bottom. By the way I am still going forth with the
center tunnel structure upgrade on my Mangusta. We are in the finite
element design stage now, last week I bought and put to use electronic
weight scales and found corner weights with center of gravity and side to
side weight balance with and without my butt in the car. This mod will help
handling and braking forces. Good luck, Jeff Cobb #1196.
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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 20:25:52 -0700
From: "Visit ProvaMo.com" <pantera007 at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [DeTomaso] Mangusta 8MA514
To: "List DeTomaso" <detomaso at realbig.com>
Message-ID: <ILENLNGGPDHKPGLHFMCPAEFHEAAA.pantera007 at sbcglobal.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Mangusta 8MA514 Where are you?
The ProvaMo Registry is calling you!
Chuck
ProvaMo.com
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1:15 PM
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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 20:56:43 -0700
From: "Visit ProvaMo.com" <pantera007 at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [DeTomaso] Mangusta 8MA544
To: "List DeTomaso" <detomaso at realbig.com>
Message-ID: <ILENLNGGPDHKPGLHFMCPOEFHEAAA.pantera007 at sbcglobal.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Mangusta 8MA544 Where are you?
The ProvaMo Registry is calling you!
Chuck
ProvaMo.com
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Checked by AVG Free Edition.
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1:15 PM
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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 21:41:38 -0700
From: "Visit ProvaMo.com" <pantera007 at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [DeTomaso] Mangusta 8MA564
To: "List DeTomaso" <detomaso at realbig.com>
Message-ID: <ILENLNGGPDHKPGLHFMCPEEFIEAAA.pantera007 at sbcglobal.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250"
Mangusta 8MA564 Where are you?
The ProvaMo Registry is calling you!
Chuck
www.ProvaMo.com
--
No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.23/740 - Release Date: 3/30/2007
1:15 PM
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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 22:38:44 -0700
From: "Visit ProvaMo.com" <pantera007 at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [DeTomaso] Mangusta 8MA570
To: "List DeTomaso" <detomaso at realbig.com>
Message-ID: <ILENLNGGPDHKPGLHFMCPKEFIEAAA.pantera007 at sbcglobal.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250"
Mangusta 8MA570 Where are you?
The ProvaMo Registry is calling your owner!
Chuck
www.ProvaMo.com
--
No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.23/740 - Release Date: 3/30/2007
1:15 PM
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Message: 17
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 22:49:49 -0700
From: "Visit ProvaMo.com" <pantera007 at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [DeTomaso] Mangusta 8MA580
To: "List DeTomaso" <detomaso at realbig.com>
Message-ID: <ILENLNGGPDHKPGLHFMCPAEFJEAAA.pantera007 at sbcglobal.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250"
Mangusta 8MA580 Where are you?
The ProvaMo Registry is calling you!
Chuck
www.provamo.com
--
No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.23/740 - Release Date: 3/30/2007
1:15 PM
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