Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
Hey Larry, Where the hell did you learn that leak detection method....your proctologist? M Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Dave Londry <davel@emspace.com> Date: 9/18/16 4:45 PM (GMT-08:00) To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box Well crap Larry - that's about how I look for cooling system leaks, but I never thought of car leaks. Awesome! Dvae On 2016-09-18 7:34 AM, Larry - Ohio Time wrote:
Robert,
I do things a bit differently (who's surprised?) to find water leak. On my big Sears shop vac it has a blower connection. I make an adapter plate, with hole for the vac hose, to fit into the window channel with the window down 5 or 6". You will need to tape the panel in good with painters tape to seal it.
The next thing you will need is a spray bottle with a bit of soap in it. I use my car washing soap so not to mess up my wax job.
When you turn the vac on, with the hose in the "blow hole" you are now pressurizing the cabin of the car.
Spray the soapy water around and you will see it bubble up where you have a leak. You will be surprised by the number leaks you find.
Larry (I doun't always suck) - Cleveland
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Robert Stroj Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 4:57 AM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
Hi,
Thanks for all the suggestions, I hope that it could be a case of a leak trough the went tube.
My car is early model with direct vent, operated by a pull-lever below the AC control button.
I really think this makes sense as amount of water (roughly 1L I would estimate) that entered after just quick wash seems impossible to get through window gasket.I hope!
Now I do not have access to the car till spring, but remember noticing that window seal has been sealed additionally with black silicon, so hope that is OK.
Once I get back to Europe will open scrim panels around wipers and check if I can find what's going on there.
I guess there must be somewhere a drain in there; might be plugged and then all water just leaks trough vent opening.
Thanks again for all the responses, Robert
From: The Goyaniuks [mailto:andriykoisg@yahoo.ca] Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 2:19 PM To: jgkrenton@comcast.net; Robert Stroj; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
In early cars, I believe there was a fresh air "tube" or cylinder that was installed in the passenger side cowl vent "tub". In addition there is a water drain in the cowl vent "tub". In the event of a crack or corrosion in the weld that attaches these items ... it could be the source of the leak.
HTH
_____
From: "jgkrenton@comcast.net" <jgkrenton@comcast.net> To: Robert Stroj <npdrs@maui.net> Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
Dolomites are beautiful. On my car (2467) it's the lower windshield seal leaking that fills up the glove box. It rains in Seattle. FYI. Jeff __________________________________________________________________
From: "Robert Stroj" <npdrs@maui.net> To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:40:43 AM Subject: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
Hi, every time I wash my Pantera (71 model) I was finding front right carpet getting wet in the foot area. Last time I happened to open glove box after the wash and it was totally filled with water! Driver side seems to stay dry. This is not even pressure wash, just regular wash without crazy spraying around the door frames etc... I guess it must somehow come in through the front went holes behind the hood? It seems that when I washed the car parked slightly nose up it stayed dry. Also, recently got caught in heavy rain, but did not really get water inside; maybe when car moves it drains different way...? Did anyone have a similar problem and any suggestions where to look/how to fix? Also, my wipers work just on second speed; on first nothing happens. Would that likely be a switch issue or it could be that they are wired wrong? Thanks, Robert PS. A nice photo from recent drive over Dolomites...just trying to pull out front fender lip a bit :) _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
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Robert,
I do things a bit differently (who's surprised?) to find water leak. On my big Sears shop vac it has a blower connection. I make an adapter
hole for the vac hose, to fit into the window channel with the window down 5 or 6". You will need to tape the panel in good with painters tape to seal it.
The next thing you will need is a spray bottle with a bit of soap in it. I use my car washing soap so not to mess up my wax job.
When you turn the vac on, with the hose in the "blow hole" you are now pressurizing the cabin of the car.
Spray the soapy water around and you will see it bubble up where you have a leak. You will be surprised by the number leaks you find.
Larry (I doun't always suck) - Cleveland
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Robert Stroj Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 4:57 AM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
Hi,
Thanks for all the suggestions, I hope that it could be a case of a leak trough the went tube.
My car is early model with direct vent, operated by a pull-lever below the AC control button.
I really think this makes sense as amount of water (roughly 1L I would estimate) that entered after just quick wash seems impossible to get
window gasket.I hope!
Now I do not have access to the car till spring, but remember noticing that window seal has been sealed additionally with black silicon, so hope
OK.
Once I get back to Europe will open scrim panels around wipers and check if I can find what's going on there.
I guess there must be somewhere a drain in there; might be plugged and then all water just leaks trough vent opening.
Thanks again for all the responses, Robert
From: The Goyaniuks [mailto:andriykoisg@yahoo.ca] Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 2:19 PM To: jgkrenton@comcast.net; Robert Stroj; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
In early cars, I believe there was a fresh air "tube" or cylinder
-- Dave Londry Embedded Spaces Inc. (ESI) davel@emspace.com 904 429 1937 (SkypeCall FLA) Skype:embeddedspaces Canada Numbers 604 721 2278 (cell) 604 589 9182 (shop line) 604 589 9183 (home line) _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. Hey Larry, Where the hell did you learn that leak detection method....your proctologist? M Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Dave Londry <davel@emspace.com> Date: 9/18/16 4:45 PM (GMT-08:00) To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box Well crap Larry - that's about how I look for cooling system leaks, but I never thought of car leaks. Awesome! Dvae On 2016-09-18 7:34 AM, Larry - Ohio Time wrote: plate, with through that is that was
installed in the passenger side cowl vent "tub". In addition there is a water drain in the cowl vent "tub". In the event of a crack or corrosion in the weld that attaches these items ... it could be the source of the leak.
HTH
_____
From: "jgkrenton@comcast.net" <jgkrenton@comcast.net> To: Robert Stroj <npdrs@maui.net> Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
Dolomites are beautiful. On my car (2467) it's the lower windshield seal leaking that fills up the glove box. It rains in Seattle. FYI. Jeff
__________________________________________________________________
From: "Robert Stroj" <npdrs@maui.net> To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:40:43 AM Subject: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
Hi, every time I wash my Pantera (71 model) I was finding front
carpet getting wet in the foot area. Last time I happened to open glove box after the wash and it was totally filled with water! Driver side seems to stay dry. This is not even pressure wash, just regular wash without crazy spraying around the door frames etc... I guess it must somehow come in through the front went holes behind the hood? It seems that when I washed the car parked slightly nose up it stayed dry. Also, recently got caught in heavy rain, but did not really get water inside; maybe when car moves it drains different way...? Did anyone have a similar problem and any suggestions where to look/how to fix? Also, my wipers work just on second speed; on first nothing happens. Would that likely be a switch issue or it could be that they are wired wrong? Thanks, Robert PS. A nice photo from recent drive over Dolomites...just trying to
out front fender lip a bit :) _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
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Soviet spacesuits. Same method, a bit better tools. On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 1:00 AM, marshallgsmith < marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Hey Larry,
Where the hell did you learn that leak detection method....your proctologist?
M
Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
Robert,
I do things a bit differently (who's surprised?) to find water leak. On my big Sears shop vac it has a blower connection. I make an adapter
hole for the vac hose, to fit into the window channel with the window down 5 or 6". You will need to tape the panel in good with painters tape to seal it.
The next thing you will need is a spray bottle with a bit of soap in it. I use my car washing soap so not to mess up my wax job.
When you turn the vac on, with the hose in the "blow hole" you are now pressurizing the cabin of the car.
Spray the soapy water around and you will see it bubble up where you have a leak. You will be surprised by the number leaks you find.
Larry (I doun't always suck) - Cleveland
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Robert Stroj Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 4:57 AM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
Hi,
Thanks for all the suggestions, I hope that it could be a case of a leak trough the went tube.
My car is early model with direct vent, operated by a pull-lever below the AC control button.
I really think this makes sense as amount of water (roughly 1L I would estimate) that entered after just quick wash seems impossible to get
window gasket.I hope!
Now I do not have access to the car till spring, but remember noticing that window seal has been sealed additionally with black silicon, so hope
OK.
Once I get back to Europe will open scrim panels around wipers and check if I can find what's going on there.
I guess there must be somewhere a drain in there; might be plugged and then all water just leaks trough vent opening.
Thanks again for all the responses, Robert
From: The Goyaniuks [mailto:andriykoisg@yahoo.ca] Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 2:19 PM To: jgkrenton@comcast.net; Robert Stroj; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
In early cars, I believe there was a fresh air "tube" or cylinder
-------- Original message -------- From: Dave Londry <davel@emspace.com> Date: 9/18/16 4:45 PM (GMT-08:00) To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box Well crap Larry - that's about how I look for cooling system leaks, but I never thought of car leaks. Awesome! Dvae On 2016-09-18 7:34 AM, Larry - Ohio Time wrote: plate, with through that is that was
installed in the passenger side cowl vent "tub". In addition there is a water drain in the cowl vent "tub". In the event of a crack or corrosion in the weld that attaches these items ... it could be the source of the leak.
HTH
_____
From: "jgkrenton@comcast.net" <jgkrenton@comcast.net> To: Robert Stroj <npdrs@maui.net> Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
Dolomites are beautiful. On my car (2467) it's the lower windshield seal leaking that fills up the glove box. It rains in Seattle. FYI. Jeff
__________________________________________________________________
From: "Robert Stroj" <npdrs@maui.net> To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:40:43 AM Subject: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
Hi, every time I wash my Pantera (71 model) I was finding front
carpet getting wet in the foot area. Last time I happened to open glove box after the wash and it was totally filled with water! Driver side seems to stay dry. This is not even pressure wash, just regular wash without crazy spraying around the door frames etc... I guess it must somehow come in through the front went holes behind the hood? It seems that when I washed the car parked slightly nose up it stayed dry. Also, recently got caught in heavy rain, but did not really get water inside; maybe when car moves it drains different way...? Did anyone have a similar problem and any suggestions where to look/how to fix? Also, my wipers work just on second speed; on first nothing happens. Would that likely be a switch issue or it could be that they are wired wrong? Thanks, Robert PS. A nice photo from recent drive over Dolomites...just trying to
out front fender lip a bit :) _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
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Soviet spacesuits. Same method, a bit better tools. On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 1:00 AM, marshallgsmith <[1]marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.net> wrote: A A Hey Larry, A A Where the hell did you learn that leak detection method....your A A proctologist? A A M A A Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone A A -------- Original message -------- A A From: Dave Londry <[2]davel@emspace.com> A A Date: 9/18/16 4:45 PM (GMT-08:00) A A To: [3]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box A A Well crap Larry - that's about how I look for cooling system leaks, but A A I never thought of car leaks. A A Awesome! A A Dvae A A On 2016-09-18 7:34 AM, Larry - Ohio Time wrote: A A > Robert, A A > A A > A A > I do things a bit differently (who's surprised?) to find water leak. A A On my A A > big Sears shop vac it has a blower connection. I make an adapter A A plate, with A A > hole for the vac hose, to fit into the window channel with the window A A down 5 A A > or 6". You will need to tape the panel in good with painters tape to A A seal A A > it. A A > A A > The next thing you will need is a spray bottle with a bit of soap in A A it. I A A > use my car washing soap so not to mess up my wax job. A A > A A > When you turn the vac on, with the hose in the "blow hole" you are A A now A A > pressurizing the cabin of the car. A A > A A > Spray the soapy water around and you will see it bubble up where you A A have a A A > leak.A You will be surprised by the number leaks you find. A A > A A > Larry (I doun't always suck) - Cleveland A A > A A > A A > A A > -----Original Message----- A A > From: DeTomaso [mailto:[4]detomaso-bounces@ server.detomasolist.com] On A A Behalf A A > Of Robert Stroj A A > Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 4:57 AM A A > To: [5]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com A A > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box A A > A A > Hi, A A > A A > A A > A A > Thanks for all the suggestions, I hope that it could be a case of a A A leak A A > trough the went tube. A A > A A > My car is early model with direct vent, operated by a pull-lever A A below the A A > AC control button. A A > A A > A A > A A > I really think this makes sense as amount of water (roughly 1L I A A would A A > estimate) that entered after just quick wash seems impossible to get A A through A A > window gasket.I hope! A A > A A > Now I do not have access to the car till spring, but remember A A noticing that A A > window seal has been sealed additionally with black silicon, so hope A A that is A A > OK. A A > A A > Once I get back to Europe will open scrim panels around wipers and A A check if A A > I can find what's going on there. A A > A A > I guess there must be somewhere a drain in there; might be plugged A A and then A A > all water just leaks trough vent opening. A A > A A > A A > A A > Thanks again for all the responses, Robert A A > A A > A A > A A > From: The Goyaniuks [mailto:[6]andriykoisg@yahoo.ca] A A > Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 2:19 PM A A > To: [7]jgkrenton@comcast.net; Robert Stroj; A A [8]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com A A > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box A A > A A > A A > A A > In early cars, I believe there was a fresh air "tube" or cylinder A A that was A A > installed in the passenger side cowl vent "tub".A In addition there A A is a A A > water drain in the cowl vent "tub".A In the event of a crack or A A corrosion in A A > the weld that attaches these items ... it could be the source of the A A leak. A A > A A > A A > A A > HTH A A > A A > A A > A A > A A > A A > A A > A A >A A _____ A A > A A > From: "[9]jgkrenton@comcast.net" <[10]jgkrenton@comcast.net> A A > To: Robert Stroj <[11]npdrs@maui.net> A A > Cc: [12]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com A A > Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 7:54 PM A A > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box A A > A A > A A >A A Dolomites are beautiful. A A >A A On my car (2467) it's the lower windshield seal leaking that fills A A up A A >A A the glove box. A A >A A It rains in Seattle. A A >A A FYI. A A >A A Jeff A A > A A ____________________________________________________________ ______ A A > A A >A A From: "Robert Stroj" <[13]npdrs@maui.net> A A >A A To: [14]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com A A >A A Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:40:43 AM A A >A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box A A > A A > A A >A A Hi, every time I wash my Pantera (71 model) I was finding front A A right A A >A A carpet A A >A A getting wet in the foot area. A A >A A Last time I happened to open glove box after the wash and it was A A >A A totally A A >A A filled with water! A A >A A Driver side seems to stay dry. A A >A A This is not even pressure wash, just regular wash without crazy A A >A A spraying A A >A A around the door frames etc... A A >A A I guess it must somehow come in through the front went holes A A behind the A A >A A hood? A A >A A It seems that when I washed the car parked slightly nose up it A A stayed A A >A A dry. A A >A A Also, recently got caught in heavy rain, but did not really get A A water A A >A A inside; maybe when car moves it drains different way...? A A >A A Did anyone have a similar problem and any suggestions where to A A look/how A A >A A to A A >A A fix? A A >A A Also, my wipers work just on second speed; on first nothing A A happens. A A >A A Would A A >A A that likely be a switch issue or it could be that they are wired A A wrong? A A >A A Thanks, Robert A A >A A PS. 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I took me a while to put it together, when It hit me I rolled laughing! On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 1:00 AM, marshallgsmith < marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Hey Larry,
Where the hell did you learn that leak detection method....your proctologist?
On 2016-09-18 7:34 AM, Larry - Ohio Time wrote: Robert,
I do things a bit differently....big Sears shop vac it has a blower connection... When you turn the vac on, with the hose in the "blow hole" you are now pressurizing....Spray the soapy water around and you will see it bubble up where you have a leak. You will be surprised by the number leaks you find.
Larry (I doun't always suck) - Cleveland
Robert,
I do things a bit differently (who's surprised?) to find water leak. On my big Sears shop vac it has a blower connection. I make an adapter plate, with hole for the vac hose, to fit into the window channel with the window down 5 or 6". You will need to tape the panel in good with painters tape to seal it.
The next thing you will need is a spray bottle with a bit of soap in it. I use my car washing soap so not to mess up my wax job.
When you turn the vac on, with the hose in the "blow hole" you are now pressurizing the cabin of the car.
Spray the soapy water around and you will see it bubble up where you have a leak. You will be surprised by the number leaks you find.
Larry (I doun't always suck) - Cleveland
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Robert Stroj Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 4:57 AM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
Hi,
Thanks for all the suggestions, I hope that it could be a case of a leak trough the went tube.
My car is early model with direct vent, operated by a pull-lever below the AC control button.
I really think this makes sense as amount of water (roughly 1L I would estimate) that entered after just quick wash seems impossible to get
window gasket.I hope!
Now I do not have access to the car till spring, but remember noticing
window seal has been sealed additionally with black silicon, so hope that is OK.
Once I get back to Europe will open scrim panels around wipers and check if I can find what's going on there.
I guess there must be somewhere a drain in there; might be plugged and
all water just leaks trough vent opening.
Thanks again for all the responses, Robert
From: The Goyaniuks [mailto:andriykoisg@yahoo.ca] Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 2:19 PM To: jgkrenton@comcast.net; Robert Stroj; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
In early cars, I believe there was a fresh air "tube" or cylinder that was installed in the passenger side cowl vent "tub". In addition there is a water drain in the cowl vent "tub". In the event of a crack or corrosion in the weld that attaches these items ... it could be the source of the leak.
HTH
_____
From: "jgkrenton@comcast.net" <jgkrenton@comcast.net> To: Robert Stroj <npdrs@maui.net> Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
Dolomites are beautiful. On my car (2467) it's the lower windshield seal leaking that fills up the glove box. It rains in Seattle. FYI. Jeff __________________________________________________________________
From: "Robert Stroj" <npdrs@maui.net> To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:40:43 AM Subject: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
Hi, every time I wash my Pantera (71 model) I was finding front right carpet getting wet in the foot area. Last time I happened to open glove box after the wash and it was totally filled with water! Driver side seems to stay dry. This is not even pressure wash, just regular wash without crazy spraying around the door frames etc... I guess it must somehow come in through the front went holes behind the hood? It seems that when I washed the car parked slightly nose up it stayed dry. Also, recently got caught in heavy rain, but did not really get water inside; maybe when car moves it drains different way...? Did anyone have a similar problem and any suggestions where to look/how to fix? Also, my wipers work just on second speed; on first nothing happens. Would that likely be a switch issue or it could be that they are wired wrong? Thanks, Robert PS. A nice photo from recent drive over Dolomites...just trying to pull out front fender lip a bit :) _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
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<< Where the hell did you learn that leak detection method....your proctologist?>> As a mater of fact she did do a very similar test. Larry (I passed) - Cleveland -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of marshallgsmith Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 2:00 AM To: Dave Londry; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box Hey Larry, Where the hell did you learn that leak detection method....your proctologist? M Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Dave Londry <davel@emspace.com> Date: 9/18/16 4:45 PM (GMT-08:00) To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box Well crap Larry - that's about how I look for cooling system leaks, but I never thought of car leaks. Awesome! Dvae On 2016-09-18 7:34 AM, Larry - Ohio Time wrote: through that then the links above.
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Did bubbles come out anywhere? On 9/19/16, 11:05 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Larry - Ohio Time" <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com on behalf of Larry@OhioTimeCorp.com> wrote:
<< Where the hell did you learn that leak detection method....your proctologist?>>
As a mater of fact she did do a very similar test.
Larry (I passed) - Cleveland
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of marshallgsmith Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 2:00 AM To: Dave Londry; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
Hey Larry, Where the hell did you learn that leak detection method....your proctologist? M
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-------- Original message -------- From: Dave Londry <davel@emspace.com> Date: 9/18/16 4:45 PM (GMT-08:00) To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
Well crap Larry - that's about how I look for cooling system leaks, but I never thought of car leaks. Awesome!
Dvae
Robert,
I do things a bit differently (who's surprised?) to find water leak. On my big Sears shop vac it has a blower connection. I make an adapter plate, with hole for the vac hose, to fit into the window channel with the window down 5 or 6". You will need to tape the panel in good with painters tape to seal it.
The next thing you will need is a spray bottle with a bit of soap in it. I use my car washing soap so not to mess up my wax job.
When you turn the vac on, with the hose in the "blow hole" you are now pressurizing the cabin of the car.
Spray the soapy water around and you will see it bubble up where you have a leak. You will be surprised by the number leaks you find.
Larry (I doun't always suck) - Cleveland
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Robert Stroj Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 4:57 AM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
Hi,
Thanks for all the suggestions, I hope that it could be a case of a leak trough the went tube.
My car is early model with direct vent, operated by a pull-lever below the AC control button.
I really think this makes sense as amount of water (roughly 1L I would estimate) that entered after just quick wash seems impossible to get
window gasket.I hope!
Now I do not have access to the car till spring, but remember noticing
window seal has been sealed additionally with black silicon, so hope that is OK.
Once I get back to Europe will open scrim panels around wipers and check if I can find what's going on there.
I guess there must be somewhere a drain in there; might be plugged and
all water just leaks trough vent opening.
Thanks again for all the responses, Robert
From: The Goyaniuks [mailto:andriykoisg@yahoo.ca] Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 2:19 PM To: jgkrenton@comcast.net; Robert Stroj; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
In early cars, I believe there was a fresh air "tube" or cylinder that was installed in the passenger side cowl vent "tub". In addition there is a water drain in the cowl vent "tub". In the event of a crack or corrosion in the weld that attaches these items ... it could be the source of the leak.
HTH
_____
From: "jgkrenton@comcast.net" <jgkrenton@comcast.net> To: Robert Stroj <npdrs@maui.net> Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
Dolomites are beautiful. On my car (2467) it's the lower windshield seal leaking that fills up the glove box. It rains in Seattle. FYI. Jeff __________________________________________________________________
From: "Robert Stroj" <npdrs@maui.net> To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:40:43 AM Subject: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
Hi, every time I wash my Pantera (71 model) I was finding front right carpet getting wet in the foot area. Last time I happened to open glove box after the wash and it was totally filled with water! Driver side seems to stay dry. This is not even pressure wash, just regular wash without crazy spraying around the door frames etc... I guess it must somehow come in through the front went holes behind the hood? It seems that when I washed the car parked slightly nose up it stayed dry. Also, recently got caught in heavy rain, but did not really get water inside; maybe when car moves it drains different way...? Did anyone have a similar problem and any suggestions where to look/how to fix? Also, my wipers work just on second speed; on first nothing happens. Would that likely be a switch issue or it could be that they are wired wrong? Thanks, Robert PS. A nice photo from recent drive over Dolomites...just trying to pull out front fender lip a bit :) _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
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<<Did bubbles come out anywhere?>> Don't know for sure she never regained consciousness... Larry (normal 4 me) - Cleveland -----Original Message----- From: Will Kooiman [mailto:will.kooiman@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 11:30 PM To: Larry - Ohio Time; 'marshallgsmith'; 'Dave Londry'; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box Did bubbles come out anywhere? On 9/19/16, 11:05 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Larry - Ohio Time" <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com on behalf of Larry@OhioTimeCorp.com> wrote:
<< Where the hell did you learn that leak detection method....your proctologist?>>
As a mater of fact she did do a very similar test.
Larry (I passed) - Cleveland
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of marshallgsmith Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 2:00 AM To: Dave Londry; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
Hey Larry, Where the hell did you learn that leak detection method....your proctologist? M
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-------- Original message -------- From: Dave Londry <davel@emspace.com> Date: 9/18/16 4:45 PM (GMT-08:00) To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
Well crap Larry - that's about how I look for cooling system leaks, but I never thought of car leaks. Awesome!
Dvae
Robert,
I do things a bit differently (who's surprised?) to find water leak. On my big Sears shop vac it has a blower connection. I make an adapter plate, with hole for the vac hose, to fit into the window channel with the window down 5 or 6". You will need to tape the panel in good with painters tape to seal it.
The next thing you will need is a spray bottle with a bit of soap in it. I use my car washing soap so not to mess up my wax job.
When you turn the vac on, with the hose in the "blow hole" you are now pressurizing the cabin of the car.
Spray the soapy water around and you will see it bubble up where you have a leak. You will be surprised by the number leaks you find.
Larry (I doun't always suck) - Cleveland
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Robert Stroj Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 4:57 AM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
Hi,
Thanks for all the suggestions, I hope that it could be a case of a leak trough the went tube.
My car is early model with direct vent, operated by a pull-lever below the AC control button.
I really think this makes sense as amount of water (roughly 1L I would estimate) that entered after just quick wash seems impossible to get
window gasket.I hope!
Now I do not have access to the car till spring, but remember noticing
window seal has been sealed additionally with black silicon, so hope that is OK.
Once I get back to Europe will open scrim panels around wipers and check if I can find what's going on there.
I guess there must be somewhere a drain in there; might be plugged and
all water just leaks trough vent opening.
Thanks again for all the responses, Robert
From: The Goyaniuks [mailto:andriykoisg@yahoo.ca] Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 2:19 PM To: jgkrenton@comcast.net; Robert Stroj; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
In early cars, I believe there was a fresh air "tube" or cylinder that was installed in the passenger side cowl vent "tub". In addition there is a water drain in the cowl vent "tub". In the event of a crack or corrosion in the weld that attaches these items ... it could be the source of the leak.
HTH
_____
From: "jgkrenton@comcast.net" <jgkrenton@comcast.net> To: Robert Stroj <npdrs@maui.net> Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
Dolomites are beautiful. On my car (2467) it's the lower windshield seal leaking that fills up the glove box. It rains in Seattle. FYI. Jeff __________________________________________________________________
From: "Robert Stroj" <npdrs@maui.net> To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:40:43 AM Subject: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box
Hi, every time I wash my Pantera (71 model) I was finding front right carpet getting wet in the foot area. Last time I happened to open glove box after the wash and it was totally filled with water! Driver side seems to stay dry. This is not even pressure wash, just regular wash without crazy spraying around the door frames etc... I guess it must somehow come in through the front went holes behind the hood? It seems that when I washed the car parked slightly nose up it stayed dry. Also, recently got caught in heavy rain, but did not really get water inside; maybe when car moves it drains different way...? Did anyone have a similar problem and any suggestions where to look/how to fix? Also, my wipers work just on second speed; on first nothing happens. Would that likely be a switch issue or it could be that they are wired wrong? Thanks, Robert PS. A nice photo from recent drive over Dolomites...just trying to pull out front fender lip a bit :) _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
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