Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
Dear Ken, The now infamous "survey" is an example of his modus operandi. Warmest regards, Chuck Engles -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 11:09 PM To: Ed Mendez; Mike Reilly Cc: detomaso@detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) This is sounding really political and dishonest. Is it one of those surveys carefully constructed to get the answers the author wants as an excuse to do things informed members would never approve? Ken From: Ed Mendez <edducati@mac.com> To: Mike Reilly <reillyms@live.com> Cc: "detomaso@detomasolist.com" <detomaso@detomasolist.com> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) You should leave it in Junk it was not written or condoned by the board. Mr. Shortt created his own Survey Monkey account and is using emails that he has a list of.
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Check your junk file. Mine was there.
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From: [2]Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 3:31 PM To: [3]detomaso@detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
I have not received the survey. I am hoping it would have a 4th reply. 4. Please revoke my membership and remove all personal information and postings from POCA.com. You may keep any pro-rated membership fees and future publication mailings. The reason I first noticed the site was down was looking the email address to see whom to send above to.
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[4]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Will Kooiman Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 18:06 PM To: Ken Green; Pantdino; julian_kift@hotmail.com; bill@incendium.com Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; detomaso@detomasolist.com; mbglobalsc@aol.com; gpd4@juno.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) Verbatim from the survey: 1. We support Michael Shortt, Mike Burnett, and Laurie Basile and want you to fight for us and keep making the club better. OR 2. We Thank you for your service so far, please give up the fight, let the contentious people win and return the club to the way it was. This makes it look like there are only two choices - either you fully support us, or you suck. How about this? 3. I support much of what the new leadership has proposed, but I am unhappy with the way it has been done. Please continue trying to make the club better, but first attempt to reconcile the relationships that have been damaged, and if anyone is unable to serve on the BOD without treating people with respect, they should leave. -- Will _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [5]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
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You have to start wondering why anyone would work so hard to control a car club? The amount of counter-productive wasted effort is ridiculous. The hole just gets deeper and deeper. You read about crap like this going on to gain control of multi-million $ corporations, but it makes no sense for a car club. Ken From: Charles Engles <cengles@cox.net> To: 'Ken Green' <kenn_green@yahoo.com>; 'Ed Mendez' <edducati@mac.com>; 'Mike Reilly' <reillyms@live.com> Cc: detomaso@detomasolist.com Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 6:43 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) Dear Ken, The now infamous "survey" is an example of his modus operandi. Warmest regards, Chuck Engles -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 11:09 PM To: Ed Mendez; Mike Reilly Cc: detomaso@detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) This is sounding really political and dishonest. Is it one of those surveys carefully constructed to get the answers the author wants as an excuse to do things informed members would never approve? Ken From: Ed Mendez <edducati@mac.com> To: Mike Reilly <reillyms@live.com> Cc: "detomaso@detomasolist.com" <detomaso@detomasolist.com> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) You should leave it in Junk it was not written or condoned by the board. Mr. Shortt created his own Survey Monkey account and is using emails that he has a list of.
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Check your junk file. Mine was there.
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From: [2]Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 3:31 PM To: [3]detomaso@detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
I have not received the survey. I am hoping it would have a 4th reply. 4. Please revoke my membership and remove all personal information and postings from POCA.com. You may keep any pro-rated membership fees and future publication mailings. The reason I first noticed the site was down was looking the email address to see whom to send above to.
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[4]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Will Kooiman Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 18:06 PM To: Ken Green; Pantdino; julian_kift@hotmail.com; bill@incendium.com Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; detomaso@detomasolist.com; mbglobalsc@aol.com; gpd4@juno.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) Verbatim from the survey: 1. We support Michael Shortt, Mike Burnett, and Laurie Basile and want you to fight for us and keep making the club better. OR 2. We Thank you for your service so far, please give up the fight, let the contentious people win and return the club to the way it was. This makes it look like there are only two choices - either you fully support us, or you suck. How about this? 3. I support much of what the new leadership has proposed, but I am unhappy with the way it has been done. Please continue trying to make the club better, but first attempt to reconcile the relationships that have been damaged, and if anyone is unable to serve on the BOD without treating people with respect, they should leave. -- Will _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [5]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
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From: [2]Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 3:31 PM To: [3][8]detomaso@detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
I have not received the survey. I am hoping it would have a 4th reply. 4. Please revoke my membership and remove all personal information and postings from POCA.com. You may keep any pro-rated membership fees and future publication mailings. The reason I first noticed the site was down was looking the email address to see whom to send above to.
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[4]mailto:[9]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Will Kooiman Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 18:06 PM To: Ken Green; Pantdino; [10]julian_kift@hotmail.com; [11]bill@incendium.com Cc: [12]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; [13]detomaso@detomasolist.com; [14]mbglobalsc@aol.com; [15]gpd4@juno.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) Verbatim from the survey: 1. We support Michael Shortt, Mike Burnett, and Laurie Basile and want you to fight for us and keep making the club better. OR 2. We Thank you for your service so far, please give up the fight, let the contentious people win and return the club to the way it was. This makes it look like there are only two choices - either you fully support us, or you suck. How about this? 3. I support much of what the new leadership has proposed, but I am unhappy with the way it has been done. Please continue trying to make the club better, but first attempt to reconcile the relationships that have been damaged, and if anyone is unable to serve on the BOD without
people with respect, they should leave. -- Will _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [16]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [5][17]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
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Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. You have to start wondering why anyone would work so hard to control a car club? The amount of counter-productive wasted effort is ridiculous. The hole just gets deeper and deeper. You read about crap like this going on to gain control of multi-million $ corporations, but it makes no sense for a car club. Ken __________________________________________________________________ From: Charles Engles <cengles@cox.net> To: 'Ken Green' <kenn_green@yahoo.com>; 'Ed Mendez' <edducati@mac.com>; 'Mike Reilly' <reillyms@live.com> Cc: detomaso@detomasolist.com Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 6:43 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) Dear Ken, The now infamous "survey" is an example of his modus operandi. Warmest regards, Chuck Engles -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:[1]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 11:09 PM To: Ed Mendez; Mike Reilly Cc: [2]detomaso@detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) This is sounding really political and dishonest. Is it one of those surveys carefully constructed to get the answers the author wants as an excuse to do things informed members would never approve? Ken From: Ed Mendez <[3]edducati@mac.com> To: Mike Reilly <[4]reillyms@live.com> Cc: "[5]detomaso@detomasolist.com" <[6]detomaso@detomasolist.com> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) You should leave it in Junk it was not written or condoned by the board. Mr. Shortt created his own Survey Monkey account and is using emails that he has a list of. treating list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [25]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [26]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. 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It isn¹t about controlling the club. It takes a lot of guts to step forward to be president (or any board position). It is often a thankless job, and you take a lot of crap for it - even when you are right. MS just wants to improve the club. I¹m impressed with his energy and most of his ideas. I disagree with some, but that¹s another matter. The problem is he pissed off a lot of people with his approach, and now it¹s a back and forth verbal battle until someone has enough and leaves. Unfortunately, there are <many> against him, and they¹ll never all shut up and leave. So, the ³fix" has to come from MS - somehow. On 7/23/16, 9:54 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Ken Green via DeTomaso" <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com on behalf of detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
You have to start wondering why anyone would work so hard to control a car club? The amount of counter-productive wasted effort is ridiculous. The hole just gets deeper and deeper. You read about crap like this going on to gain control of multi-million $ corporations, but it makes no sense for a car club. Ken __________________________________________________________________
From: Charles Engles <cengles@cox.net> To: 'Ken Green' <kenn_green@yahoo.com>; 'Ed Mendez' <edducati@mac.com>; 'Mike Reilly' <reillyms@live.com> Cc: detomaso@detomasolist.com Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 6:43 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) Dear Ken, The now infamous "survey" is an example of his modus operandi. Warmest regards, Chuck Engles -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:[1]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 11:09 PM To: Ed Mendez; Mike Reilly Cc: [2]detomaso@detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) This is sounding really political and dishonest. Is it one of those surveys carefully constructed to get the answers the author wants as an excuse to do things informed members would never approve? Ken From: Ed Mendez <[3]edducati@mac.com> To: Mike Reilly <[4]reillyms@live.com> Cc: "[5]detomaso@detomasolist.com" <[6]detomaso@detomasolist.com> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
On Jul 23, 2016, at 10:40, Mike Reilly <[7]reillyms@live.com> wrote:
Check your junk file. Mine was there.
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From: [2]Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 3:31 PM To: [3][8]detomaso@detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
I have not received the survey. I am hoping it would have a 4th reply. 4. Please revoke my membership and remove all personal information and postings from POCA.com. You may keep any pro-rated membership fees and future publication mailings. The reason I first noticed the site was down was looking the email address to see whom to send above to.
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[4]mailto:[9]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Will Kooiman Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 18:06 PM To: Ken Green; Pantdino; [10]julian_kift@hotmail.com; [11]bill@incendium.com Cc: [12]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; [13]detomaso@detomasolist.com; [14]mbglobalsc@aol.com; [15]gpd4@juno.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) Verbatim from the survey: 1. We support Michael Shortt, Mike Burnett, and Laurie Basile and want you to fight for us and keep making the club better. OR 2. We Thank you for your service so far, please give up the fight, let the contentious people win and return the club to the way it was. This makes it look like there are only two choices - either you fully support us, or you suck. How about this? 3. I support much of what the new leadership has proposed, but I am unhappy with the way it has been done. Please continue trying to make the club better, but first attempt to reconcile the relationships that have been damaged, and if anyone is unable to serve on the BOD without
people with respect, they should leave. -- Will _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [16]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [5][17]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
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You should leave it in Junk it was not written or condoned by the board. Mr. Shortt created his own Survey Monkey account and is using emails that he has a list of. treating list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [25]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [26]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
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Bravo. Someone with a pair contributes something constructive. I don't know MS or the issues involved. I am saddened to see icons of POCA, individuals who have assisted me throughout the years, become less involved. Nothing good ever comes form something negative and I don't think it's reflective of POCAs reputation. It was mentioned before, please keep grievances and snarky comments between the appropriate individuals. Mark 1789 Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Will Kooiman <will.kooiman@gmail.com> Sender: "DeTomaso" <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 13:26:38 To: Ken Green<kenn_green@yahoo.com>; Charles Engles<cengles@cox.net>; 'Ed Mendez'<edducati@mac.com>; 'Mike Reilly'<reillyms@live.com> Cc: detomaso@detomasolist.com<detomaso@detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) It isn¹t about controlling the club. It takes a lot of guts to step forward to be president (or any board position). It is often a thankless job, and you take a lot of crap for it - even when you are right. MS just wants to improve the club. I¹m impressed with his energy and most of his ideas. I disagree with some, but that¹s another matter. The problem is he pissed off a lot of people with his approach, and now it¹s a back and forth verbal battle until someone has enough and leaves. Unfortunately, there are <many> against him, and they¹ll never all shut up and leave. So, the ³fix" has to come from MS - somehow. On 7/23/16, 9:54 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Ken Green via DeTomaso" <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com on behalf of detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
You have to start wondering why anyone would work so hard to control a car club? The amount of counter-productive wasted effort is ridiculous. The hole just gets deeper and deeper. You read about crap like this going on to gain control of multi-million $ corporations, but it makes no sense for a car club. Ken __________________________________________________________________
From: Charles Engles <cengles@cox.net> To: 'Ken Green' <kenn_green@yahoo.com>; 'Ed Mendez' <edducati@mac.com>; 'Mike Reilly' <reillyms@live.com> Cc: detomaso@detomasolist.com Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 6:43 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) Dear Ken, The now infamous "survey" is an example of his modus operandi. Warmest regards, Chuck Engles -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:[1]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 11:09 PM To: Ed Mendez; Mike Reilly Cc: [2]detomaso@detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) This is sounding really political and dishonest. Is it one of those surveys carefully constructed to get the answers the author wants as an excuse to do things informed members would never approve? Ken From: Ed Mendez <[3]edducati@mac.com> To: Mike Reilly <[4]reillyms@live.com> Cc: "[5]detomaso@detomasolist.com" <[6]detomaso@detomasolist.com> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
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I have not received the survey. I am hoping it would have a 4th reply. 4. Please revoke my membership and remove all personal information and postings from POCA.com. You may keep any pro-rated membership fees and future publication mailings. The reason I first noticed the site was down was looking the email address to see whom to send above to.
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[4]mailto:[9]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Will Kooiman Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 18:06 PM To: Ken Green; Pantdino; [10]julian_kift@hotmail.com; [11]bill@incendium.com Cc: [12]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; [13]detomaso@detomasolist.com; [14]mbglobalsc@aol.com; [15]gpd4@juno.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) Verbatim from the survey: 1. We support Michael Shortt, Mike Burnett, and Laurie Basile and want you to fight for us and keep making the club better. OR 2. We Thank you for your service so far, please give up the fight, let the contentious people win and return the club to the way it was. This makes it look like there are only two choices - either you fully support us, or you suck. How about this? 3. I support much of what the new leadership has proposed, but I am unhappy with the way it has been done. Please continue trying to make the club better, but first attempt to reconcile the relationships that have been damaged, and if anyone is unable to serve on the BOD without
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On Jul 23, 2016, at 10:40, Mike Reilly <reillyms@live.com> wrote:
Check your junk file. Mine was there.
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I have not received the survey. I am hoping it would have a 4th reply. 4. Please revoke my membership and remove all personal information and postings from POCA.com. You may keep any pro-rated membership fees and future publication mailings. The reason I first noticed the site was down was looking the email address to see whom to send above to.
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[4]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Will Kooiman Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 18:06 PM To: Ken Green; Pantdino; julian_kift@hotmail.com; bill@incendium.com Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; detomaso@detomasolist.com; mbglobalsc@aol.com; gpd4@juno.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) Verbatim from the survey: 1. We support Michael Shortt, Mike Burnett, and Laurie Basile and want you to fight for us and keep making the club better. OR 2. We Thank you for your service so far, please give up the fight, let the contentious people win and return the club to the way it was. This makes it look like there are only two choices - either you fully support us, or you suck. How about this? 3. I support much of what the new leadership has proposed, but I am unhappy with the way it has been done. Please continue trying to make the club better, but first attempt to reconcile the relationships that have been damaged, and if anyone is unable to serve on the BOD without treating people with respect, they should leave. -- Will _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [5]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
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Ever since he started with his "agenda" I have wondered what his end goal was. I still haven't figured it out. Mike Haney -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 6:55 AM To: Charles Engles; 'Ed Mendez'; 'Mike Reilly' Cc: detomaso@detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) You have to start wondering why anyone would work so hard to control a car club? The amount of counter-productive wasted effort is ridiculous. The hole just gets deeper and deeper. You read about crap like this going on to gain control of multi-million $ corporations, but it makes no sense for a car club. Ken From: Charles Engles <cengles@cox.net> To: 'Ken Green' <kenn_green@yahoo.com>; 'Ed Mendez' <edducati@mac.com>; 'Mike Reilly' <reillyms@live.com> Cc: detomaso@detomasolist.com Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 6:43 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) Dear Ken, The now infamous "survey" is an example of his modus operandi. Warmest regards, Chuck Engles -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 11:09 PM To: Ed Mendez; Mike Reilly Cc: detomaso@detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) This is sounding really political and dishonest. Is it one of those surveys carefully constructed to get the answers the author wants as an excuse to do things informed members would never approve? Ken From: Ed Mendez <edducati@mac.com> To: Mike Reilly <reillyms@live.com> Cc: "detomaso@detomasolist.com" <detomaso@detomasolist.com> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) You should leave it in Junk it was not written or condoned by the board. Mr. Shortt created his own Survey Monkey account and is using emails that he has a list of. the links above.
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World domination? On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Michael Haney <paso750@gmail.com> wrote:
Ever since he started with his "agenda" I have wondered what his end goal was. I still haven't figured it out. Mike Haney
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 6:55 AM To: Charles Engles; 'Ed Mendez'; 'Mike Reilly' Cc: detomaso@detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
You have to start wondering why anyone would work so hard to control a car club? The amount of counter-productive wasted effort is ridiculous. The hole just gets deeper and deeper. You read about crap like this going on to gain control of multi-million $ corporations, but it makes no sense for a car club. Ken
From: Charles Engles <cengles@cox.net> To: 'Ken Green' <kenn_green@yahoo.com>; 'Ed Mendez' <edducati@mac.com>; 'Mike Reilly' <reillyms@live.com> Cc: detomaso@detomasolist.com Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 6:43 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
Dear Ken,
The now infamous "survey" is an example of his modus operandi.
Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 11:09 PM To: Ed Mendez; Mike Reilly Cc: detomaso@detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
This is sounding really political and dishonest. Is it one of those surveys carefully constructed to get the answers the author wants as an excuse to do things informed members would never approve? Ken
From: Ed Mendez <edducati@mac.com> To: Mike Reilly <reillyms@live.com> Cc: "detomaso@detomasolist.com" <detomaso@detomasolist.com> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
You should leave it in Junk it was not written or condoned by the board.
Mr. Shortt created his own Survey Monkey account and is using emails that he has a list of.
On Jul 23, 2016, at 10:40, Mike Reilly <reillyms@live.com> wrote:
Check your junk file. Mine was there.
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From: [2]Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 3:31 PM To: [3]detomaso@detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
I have not received the survey. I am hoping it would have a 4th reply. 4. Please revoke my membership and remove all personal information and postings from POCA.com. You may keep any pro-rated membership fees and future publication mailings. The reason I first noticed the site was down was looking the email address to see whom to send above to.
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[4]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Will Kooiman Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 18:06 PM To: Ken Green; Pantdino; julian_kift@hotmail.com; bill@incendium.com Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; detomaso@detomasolist.com; mbglobalsc@aol.com; gpd4@juno.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) Verbatim from the survey: 1. We support Michael Shortt, Mike Burnett, and Laurie Basile and want you to fight for us and keep making the club better. OR 2. We Thank you for your service so far, please give up the fight, let the contentious people win and return the club to the way it was. This makes it look like there are only two choices - either you fully support us, or you suck. How about this? 3. I support much of what the new leadership has proposed, but I am unhappy with the way it has been done. Please continue trying to make the club better, but first attempt to reconcile the relationships that have been damaged, and if anyone is unable to serve on the BOD without treating people with respect, they should leave. -- Will _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [5]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
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A [22]mbglobalsc@aol.com; [23]gpd4@juno.com A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) A Verbatim from the survey: A 1.A We support Michael Shortt, Mike Burnett, and Laurie Basile and want A you to fight for us and keep making the club better.A OR A 2.A We Thank you for your service so far, please give up the fight, let A the A contentious people win and return the club to the way it was. A This makes it look like there are only two choices - either you fully A support us, or you suck. A How about this? A 3. I support much of what the new leadership has proposed, but I am A unhappy A with the way it has been done.A Please continue trying to make the club A better, but first attempt to reconcile the relationships that have been A damaged, and if anyone is unable to serve on the BOD without
World domination? On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Michael Haney <[1]paso750@gmail.com> wrote: Ever since he started with his "agenda" I have wondered what his end goal was. I still haven't figured it out. Mike Haney -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 6:55 AM To: Charles Engles; 'Ed Mendez'; 'Mike Reilly' Cc: [3]detomaso@detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) You have to start wondering why anyone would work so hard to control a car club?A The amount of counter-productive wasted effort is ridiculous.A The hole just gets deeper and deeper.A You read about crap like this going onA to gain control ofA multi-million $ corporations, but it makes no sense for a car club. Ken A A A From: Charles Engles <[4]cengles@cox.net> A To: 'Ken Green' <[5]kenn_green@yahoo.com>; 'Ed Mendez' <[6]edducati@mac.com>; 'Mike Reilly' <[7]reillyms@live.com> Cc: [8]detomaso@detomasolist.com A Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 6:43 AM A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) Dear Ken, A A A A A The now infamous "survey" is an example of his modus operandi. A A A A A A A A A A A Warmest regards, Chuck Engles -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:[9]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 11:09 PM To: Ed Mendez; Mike Reilly Cc: [10]detomaso@detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) This is sounding really political and dishonest.A Is it one of those surveys carefully constructed to get the answers the author wants as an excuse to do things informed members would never approve? Ken A A A From: Ed Mendez <[11]edducati@mac.com> A To: Mike Reilly <[12]reillyms@live.com> Cc: "[13]detomaso@detomasolist.com" <[14]detomaso@detomasolist.com> A Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 4:50 PM A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) A You should leave it in Junk it was not written or condoned by the board. Mr. Shortt created his own Survey Monkey account and is using emails that he has a list of. > On Jul 23, 2016, at 10:40, Mike Reilly <[15]reillyms@live.com> wrote: > >A Check your junk file.A Mine was there. > > >A Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10 > > >A From: [2]Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. >A Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 3:31 PM >A To: [3][16]detomaso@detomasolist.com >A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) > > >A I have not received the survey.A I am hoping it would have a 4th >A reply. >A 4.A Please revoke my membership and remove all personal information >A and >A postings from POCA.com.A You may keep any pro-rated membership fees >and >A future publication mailings. >A The reason I first noticed the site was down was looking the email >A address >A to see whom to send above to. > >A -----Original Message----- >A From: DeTomaso [[4]mailto:[17]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] >On >A Behalf >A Of Will Kooiman >A Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 18:06 PM >A To: Ken Green; Pantdino; [18]julian_kift@hotmail.com; [19]bill@incendium.com >A Cc: [20]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; [21]detomaso@detomasolist.com; treating
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Pinky and the brain . Sent from my iPhone On Jul 23, 2016, at 1:01 PM, "Jeff Detrich" <jjdetrich@gmail.com> wrote:
World domination?
On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Michael Haney <[1]paso750@gmail.com> wrote:
Ever since he started with his "agenda" I have wondered what his end goal was. I still haven't figured it out. Mike Haney -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 6:55 AM To: Charles Engles; 'Ed Mendez'; 'Mike Reilly' Cc: [3]detomaso@detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) You have to start wondering why anyone would work so hard to control a car club?A The amount of counter-productive wasted effort is ridiculous.A The hole just gets deeper and deeper.A You read about crap like this going onA to gain control ofA multi-million $ corporations, but it makes no sense for a car club. Ken A A A From: Charles Engles <[4]cengles@cox.net> A To: 'Ken Green' <[5]kenn_green@yahoo.com>; 'Ed Mendez' <[6]edducati@mac.com>; 'Mike Reilly' <[7]reillyms@live.com> Cc: [8]detomaso@detomasolist.com A Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 6:43 AM A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) Dear Ken, A A A A A The now infamous "survey" is an example of his modus operandi. A A A A A A A A A A A Warmest regards, Chuck Engles -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:[9]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 11:09 PM To: Ed Mendez; Mike Reilly Cc: [10]detomaso@detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) This is sounding really political and dishonest.A Is it one of those surveys carefully constructed to get the answers the author wants as an excuse to do things informed members would never approve? Ken A A A From: Ed Mendez <[11]edducati@mac.com> A To: Mike Reilly <[12]reillyms@live.com> Cc: "[13]detomaso@detomasolist.com" <[14]detomaso@detomasolist.com> A Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 4:50 PM A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) A You should leave it in Junk it was not written or condoned by the board. Mr. Shortt created his own Survey Monkey account and is using emails that he has a list of.
On Jul 23, 2016, at 10:40, Mike Reilly <[15]reillyms@live.com> wrote:
A Check your junk file.A Mine was there.
A Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10
A From: [2]Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. A Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 3:31 PM A To: [3][16]detomaso@detomasolist.com A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
A I have not received the survey.A I am hoping it would have a 4th A reply. A 4.A Please revoke my membership and remove all personal information A and A postings from POCA.com.A You may keep any pro-rated membership fees and A future publication mailings. A The reason I first noticed the site was down was looking the email A address A to see whom to send above to.
A -----Original Message----- A From: DeTomaso [[4]mailto:[17]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On A Behalf A Of Will Kooiman A Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 18:06 PM A To: Ken Green; Pantdino; [18]julian_kift@hotmail.com; [19]bill@incendium.com A Cc: [20]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; [21]detomaso@detomasolist.com;
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If MS is "The Brain", who's his "Pinky"? NARF! -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Detrich Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 3:01 PM To: Michael Haney Cc: Ken Green; detomaso@detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) World domination? On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Michael Haney <paso750@gmail.com> wrote:
Ever since he started with his "agenda" I have wondered what his end goal was. I still haven't figured it out. Mike Haney
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 6:55 AM To: Charles Engles; 'Ed Mendez'; 'Mike Reilly' Cc: detomaso@detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
You have to start wondering why anyone would work so hard to control a car club? The amount of counter-productive wasted effort is ridiculous. The hole just gets deeper and deeper. You read about crap like this going on to gain control of multi-million $ corporations, but it makes no sense for a car club. Ken
From: Charles Engles <cengles@cox.net> To: 'Ken Green' <kenn_green@yahoo.com>; 'Ed Mendez' <edducati@mac.com>; 'Mike Reilly' <reillyms@live.com> Cc: detomaso@detomasolist.com Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 6:43 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
Dear Ken,
The now infamous "survey" is an example of his modus operandi.
Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 11:09 PM To: Ed Mendez; Mike Reilly Cc: detomaso@detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
This is sounding really political and dishonest. Is it one of those surveys carefully constructed to get the answers the author wants as an excuse to do things informed members would never approve? Ken
From: Ed Mendez <edducati@mac.com> To: Mike Reilly <reillyms@live.com> Cc: "detomaso@detomasolist.com" <detomaso@detomasolist.com> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
You should leave it in Junk it was not written or condoned by the board.
Mr. Shortt created his own Survey Monkey account and is using emails that he has a list of.
On Jul 23, 2016, at 10:40, Mike Reilly <reillyms@live.com> wrote:
Check your junk file. Mine was there.
Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10
From: [2]Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 3:31 PM To: [3]detomaso@detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
I have not received the survey. I am hoping it would have a 4th reply. 4. Please revoke my membership and remove all personal information and postings from POCA.com. You may keep any pro-rated membership fees and future publication mailings. The reason I first noticed the site was down was looking the email address to see whom to send above to.
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[4]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Will Kooiman Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 18:06 PM To: Ken Green; Pantdino; julian_kift@hotmail.com; bill@incendium.com Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; detomaso@detomasolist.com; mbglobalsc@aol.com; gpd4@juno.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) Verbatim from the survey: 1. We support Michael Shortt, Mike Burnett, and Laurie Basile and want you to fight for us and keep making the club better. OR 2. We Thank you for your service so far, please give up the fight, let the contentious people win and return the club to the way it was. This makes it look like there are only two choices - either you fully support us, or you suck. How about this? 3. I support much of what the new leadership has proposed, but I am unhappy with the way it has been done. Please continue trying to make the club better, but first attempt to reconcile the relationships that have been damaged, and if anyone is unable to serve on the BOD without treating people with respect, they should leave. -- Will _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [5]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
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_"Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power."_ --Abe Lincoln _"I did not receive the "survey" either."_ --Cousin Eddie Sent using Hushmail On July 23, 2016 at 1:09 PM, "Douglas Kelm" wrote:If MS is "The Brain", who's his "Pinky"? NARF! -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Detrich Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 3:01 PM To: Michael Haney Cc: Ken Green; detomaso@detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) World domination? On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Michael Haney wrote:
Ever since he started with his "agenda" I have wondered what his end
goal was. I still haven't figured it out. Mike Haney
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 6:55 AM To: Charles Engles; 'Ed Mendez'; 'Mike Reilly' Cc: detomaso@detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
You have to start wondering why anyone would work so hard to control a car club? The amount of counter-productive wasted effort is ridiculous. The hole just gets deeper and deeper. You read about crap like this going on to gain control of multi-million $ corporations, but it makes no sense for a car club. Ken
From: Charles Engles To: 'Ken Green' ; 'Ed Mendez' ; 'Mike Reilly' Cc: detomaso@detomasolist.com Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 6:43 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
Dear Ken,
The now infamous "survey" is an example of his modus operandi.
Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 11:09 PM To: Ed Mendez; Mike Reilly Cc: detomaso@detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
This is sounding really political and dishonest. Is it one of those
surveys carefully constructed to get the answers the author wants as
an excuse to do things informed members would never approve? Ken
From: Ed Mendez To: Mike Reilly Cc: "detomaso@detomasolist.com" Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
You should leave it in Junk it was not written or condoned by the board.
Mr. Shortt created his own Survey Monkey account and is using emails
that he has a list of.
On Jul 23, 2016, at 10:40, Mike Reilly wrote:
Check your junk file. Mine was there.
Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10
From: [2]Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 3:31 PM To: [3]detomaso@detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
I have not received the survey. I am hoping it would have a 4th reply. 4. Please revoke my membership and remove all personal information and postings from POCA.com. You may keep any pro-rated membership fees and future publication mailings. The reason I first noticed the site was down was looking the email address to see whom to send above to.
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[4]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Will Kooiman Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 18:06 PM To: Ken Green; Pantdino; julian_kift@hotmail.com; bill@incendium.com Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; detomaso@detomasolist.com; mbglobalsc@aol.com; gpd4@juno.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) Verbatim from the survey: 1. We support Michael Shortt, Mike Burnett, and Laurie Basile and want you to fight for us and keep making the club better. OR 2. We Thank you for your service so far, please give up the fight, let the contentious people win and return the club to the way it was. This makes it look like there are only two choices - either you fully support us, or you suck. How about this? 3. I support much of what the new leadership has proposed, but I am unhappy with the way it has been done. Please continue trying to make the club better, but first attempt to reconcile the relationships that have been damaged, and if anyone is unable to serve on the BOD without treating people with respect, they should leave. -- Will _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [5]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
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_______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." --Abe Lincoln "I did not receive the "survey" either." --Cousin Eddie Sent using Hushmail On July 23, 2016 at 1:09 PM, "Douglas Kelm" <dakelm@qwest.net> wrote: If MS is "The Brain", who's his "Pinky"? NARF! -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Detrich Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 3:01 PM To: Michael Haney Cc: Ken Green; detomaso@detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) World domination? On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Michael Haney <paso750@gmail.com> wrote: > Ever since he started with his "agenda" I have wondered what his end > goal was. > I still haven't figured it out. > Mike Haney > > -----Original Message----- > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On > Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso > Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 6:55 AM > To: Charles Engles; 'Ed Mendez'; 'Mike Reilly' > Cc: detomaso@detomasolist.com > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) > > You have to start wondering why anyone would work so hard to control a > car club? The amount of counter-productive wasted effort is > ridiculous. The hole just gets deeper and deeper. You read about > crap like this going on to gain control of multi-million $ > corporations, but it makes no sense for a car club. > Ken > > From: Charles Engles <cengles@cox.net> > To: 'Ken Green' <kenn_green@yahoo.com>; 'Ed Mendez' > <edducati@mac.com>; 'Mike Reilly' <reillyms@live.com> > Cc: detomaso@detomasolist.com > Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 6:43 AM > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) > > Dear Ken, > > > The now infamous "survey" is an example of his modus operandi. > > > Warmest regards, Chuck Engles > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On > Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso > Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 11:09 PM > To: Ed Mendez; Mike Reilly > Cc: detomaso@detomasolist.com > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) > > This is sounding really political and dishonest. Is it one of those > surveys carefully constructed to get the answers the author wants as > an excuse to do things informed members would never approve? > Ken > > From: Ed Mendez <edducati@mac.com> > To: Mike Reilly <reillyms@live.com> > Cc: "detomaso@detomasolist.com" <detomaso@detomasolist.com> > Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 4:50 PM > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) > > You should leave it in Junk it was not written or condoned by the board. > > Mr. Shortt created his own Survey Monkey account and is using emails > that he has a list of. > > > > > > On Jul 23, 2016, at 10:40, Mike Reilly <reillyms@live.com> wrote: > > > > Check your junk file. Mine was there. > > > > > > Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10 > > > > > > From: [2]Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. > > Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 3:31 PM > > To: [3]detomaso@detomasolist.com > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) > > > > > > I have not received the survey. I am hoping it would have a 4th > > reply. > > 4. Please revoke my membership and remove all personal information > > and > > postings from POCA.com. You may keep any pro-rated membership fees > >and > > future publication mailings. > > The reason I first noticed the site was down was looking the email > > address > > to see whom to send above to. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: DeTomaso [[4]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] > >On > > Behalf > > Of Will Kooiman > > Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 18:06 PM > > To: Ken Green; Pantdino; julian_kift@hotmail.com; > >bill@incendium.com > > Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; detomaso@detomasolist.com; > > mbglobalsc@aol.com; gpd4@juno.com > > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) > > Verbatim from the survey: > > 1. We support Michael Shortt, Mike Burnett, and Laurie Basile and > >want > > you to fight for us and keep making the club better. OR > > 2. We Thank you for your service so far, please give up the fight, > >let > > the > > contentious people win and return the club to the way it was. > > This makes it look like there are only two choices - either you > >fully > > support us, or you suck. > > How about this? > > 3. I support much of what the new leadership has proposed, but I am > > unhappy > > with the way it has been done. Please continue trying to make the > >club > > better, but first attempt to reconcile the relationships that have > >been > > damaged, and if anyone is unable to serve on the BOD without > >treating > > people > > with respect, they should leave. > > -- > > Will > > _______________________________________________ > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > > DeTomaso mailing list > > DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com > > [5][1]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, > >etc.) > > use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward > >any > > message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the > > list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an > >archive > > or approve the archiving of list messages. > > > > References > > > > 1. 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