Re: [DeTomaso] POCA
Dear Ed, I do appreciate your efforts at mediation, but given the phenomenon of the Michael Short era, I think that the increasing number of good people that have volunteered their time and efforts to support POCA, who are proactively leaving or planning on letting their membership lapse, speaks to a fundamental problem that won't be resolved by stepping away from the computer screen........... Warmest regards, Chuck Engles On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 1:48 AM, Ed Mendez wrote:
Quitting is only going to hurt the club and the people in it who love you. We are all family here. Quit because of one person you don't agree with? Quit because of a family member you don't get along with? If we all did that none of us would be working in our day jobs, or have a family at all.
I assume punch my brother in the face, but he is still my brother and that would really piss off my mom.
Just saying. Better that maybe we all just step away from the computer screen for a while, there's a whole big world out there.
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On 8/06/2016, at 17:14, Stephen <steve@snclocks.com> wrote:
Dear GoNancy Haney - I can readily understand your letting go of your POCA membership - right now the leadership is proving to be just plain polarizing. Just don't let go of this forum! And, one day, when hoof in mouth is not so rampant you can perhaps rejoin.
Stephen Nelson
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of gonancy@juno.com Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 8:38 PM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] POCA
Dear Forum, Even though I've just been a lurker and occasional poster and spellcheck nazi on the Forum since its inception, I wanted to put it out to the Pantera Community that I will be letting Judy McCartney know that I am ending my membership in POCA effective immediately. That means my associate member, the Profiles Editor, will be leaving also. Mike has the June issue at the printer's right now. It will be his last issue. As an aside, Mike couldn't even put his own profile on the POCA website, even though he's on the BOD, because he's an associate member, not a "true " member according to whomever it was that he contacted about it. How do you like that? Makes him sound like a second class citizen. It's been a great 25 years, GoNancy Haney
P.S. I listened in on the last BOD meeting last week and it was all I could do to keep my mouth shut. A monumental effort on my part. I could not believe my ears sometimes at what MS was saying. He is a real piece of work.
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Nicely said. :) Asa Jay Quoting cengles@cox.net:
Dear Ed,
I do appreciate your efforts at mediation, but given the phenomenon of the Michael Short era, I think that the increasing number of good people that have volunteered their time and efforts to support POCA, who are proactively leaving or planning on letting their membership lapse, speaks to a fundamental problem that won't be resolved by stepping away from the computer screen...........
Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 1:48 AM, Ed Mendez wrote:
Quitting is only going to hurt the club and the people in it who love you. We are all family here. Quit because of one person you don't agree with? Quit because of a family member you don't get along with? If we all did that none of us would be working in our day jobs, or have a family at all.
I assume punch my brother in the face, but he is still my brother and that would really piss off my mom.
Just saying. Better that maybe we all just step away from the computer screen for a while, there's a whole big world out there.
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Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
On 8/06/2016, at 17:14, Stephen <steve@snclocks.com> wrote:
Dear GoNancy Haney - I can readily understand your letting go of your POCA membership - right now the leadership is proving to be just plain polarizing. Just don't let go of this forum! And, one day, when hoof in mouth is not so rampant you can perhaps rejoin.
Stephen Nelson
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of gonancy@juno.com Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 8:38 PM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] POCA
Dear Forum, Even though I've just been a lurker and occasional poster and spellcheck nazi on the Forum since its inception, I wanted to put it out to the Pantera Community that I will be letting Judy McCartney know that I am ending my membership in POCA effective immediately. That means my associate member, the Profiles Editor, will be leaving also. Mike has the June issue at the printer's right now. It will be his last issue. As an aside, Mike couldn't even put his own profile on the POCA website, even though he's on the BOD, because he's an associate member, not a "true " member according to whomever it was that he contacted about it. How do you like that? Makes him sound like a second class citizen. It's been a great 25 years, GoNancy Haney
P.S. I listened in on the last BOD meeting last week and it was all I could do to keep my mouth shut. A monumental effort on my part. I could not believe my ears sometimes at what MS was saying. He is a real piece of work.
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Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 12:43:22 +0000 From: cengles@cox.net To: edducati@mac.com CC: gonancy@juno.com; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA
Dear Ed,
I do appreciate your efforts at mediation, but given the phenomenon of the Michael Short era, I think that the increasing number of good people that have volunteered their time and efforts to support POCA, who are proactively leaving or planning on letting their membership lapse, speaks to a fundamental problem that won't be resolved by stepping away from the computer screen...........
Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 1:48 AM, Ed Mendez wrote:
Quitting is only going to hurt the club and the people in it who love you. We are all family here. Quit because of one person you don't agree with? Quit because of a family member you don't get along with? If we all did that none of us would be working in our day jobs, or have a family at all.
I assume punch my brother in the face, but he is still my brother and that would really piss off my mom.
Just saying. Better that maybe we all just step away from the computer screen for a while, there's a whole big world out there.
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Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
On 8/06/2016, at 17:14, Stephen <steve@snclocks.com> wrote:
Dear GoNancy Haney - I can readily understand your letting go of your POCA membership - right now the leadership is proving to be just plain polarizing. Just don't let go of this forum! And, one day, when hoof in mouth is not so rampant you can perhaps rejoin.
Stephen Nelson
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of gonancy@juno.com Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 8:38 PM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] POCA
Dear Forum, Even though I've just been a lurker and occasional poster and spellcheck nazi on the Forum since its inception, I wanted to put it out to the Pantera Community that I will be letting Judy McCartney know that I am ending my membership in POCA effective immediately. That means my associate member, the Profiles Editor, will be leaving also. Mike has the June issue at the printer's right now. It will be his last issue. As an aside, Mike couldn't even put his own profile on the POCA website, even though he's on the BOD, because he's an associate member, not a "true " member according to whomever it was that he contacted about it. How do you like that? Makes him sound like a second class citizen. It's been a great 25 years, GoNancy Haney
P.S. I listened in on the last BOD meeting last week and it was all I could do to keep my mouth shut. A monumental effort on my part. I could not believe my ears sometimes at what MS was saying. He is a real piece of work.
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Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2016 12:43:22 +0000 From: cengles@cox.net To: edducati@mac.com CC: gonancy@juno.com; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA
Dear Ed,
I do appreciate your efforts at mediation, but given the phenomenon of the Michael Short era, I think that the increasing number of good people that have volunteered their time and efforts to support POCA, who are proactively leaving or planning on letting
membership lapse, speaks to a fundamental problem that won't be resolved by stepping away from the computer screen...........
Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 1:48 AM, Ed Mendez wrote:
Quitting is only going to hurt the club and the people in it who love you. We are all family here. Quit because of one person you don't agree with? Quit because of a family member you don't get along with? If we all did that none of us would be working in our day jobs, or have a family at all.
I assume punch my brother in the face, but he is still my brother and that would really piss off my mom.
Just saying. Better that maybe we all just step away from the computer screen for a while, there's a whole big world out there.
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Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
On 8/06/2016, at 17:14, Stephen <steve@snclocks.com> wrote:
Dear GoNancy Haney - I can readily understand your letting go of your POCA membership - right now the leadership is proving to be just plain polarizing. Just don't let go of this forum! And, one day, when hoof in mouth is not so rampant you can perhaps rejoin.
Stephen Nelson
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of gonancy@juno.com Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 8:38 PM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] POCA
Dear Forum, Even though I've just been a lurker and occasional poster and spellcheck nazi on the Forum since its inception, I wanted to put it out to the Pantera Community that I will be letting Judy McCartney know
I am ending my membership in POCA effective immediately. That means my associate member, the Profiles Editor, will be leaving also. Mike has the June issue at the printer's right now. It will be his last issue. As an aside, Mike couldn't even put his own profile on the POCA website, even though he's on the BOD, because he's an associate member, not a "true " member according to whomever it was that he contacted about it. How do you like that? Makes him sound like a second class citizen. It's been a great 25 years, GoNancy Haney
P.S. I listened in on the last BOD meeting last week and it was all I could do to keep my mouth shut. A monumental effort on my part. I could not believe my ears sometimes at what MS was saying. He is a real
of work.
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