I think I can speak for most Pantera people. We don't live for our cars. Our cars exist for us and bring us pleasure. We all have different desires in what our car should look like and how it should run. That is the great thing about the Pantera. We can modify it exactly how we wish. I think most of us could care less how we are seen by the "Motoring World".  Nancy, I appreciate your opinions as what goes "WAY TO [sic] FAR" but I do believe it is a bit judgmental and condescending. Haven't we had enough of that? Marshall Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: gonancy@juno.com Date: 8/27/16 11:16 PM (GMT-08:00) To: steve@snclocks.com Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] More of Steve's Yellow Car And THAT is exactly why De Tomasos, Panteras in general will NEVER be taken seriously by the Motoring World because of the ill conceived "additions" that are foisted on a great many of these cars. Granted I'm not saying that the usual upgrades like cooling, electrical and fuel systems shouldn't be addressed but clam shell  rear deck lids is going WAY TO FAR. Flame away, I think most of you guys have less that good taste when it come to your car mods. GoNancy ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Stephen" <steve@snclocks.com> To: <gonancy@juno.com>, <bill@incendium.com> Cc: <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] More of Steve's Yellow Car Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 19:01:49 -0700 That's the beauty of these cars - we can do what we want to - or not. Problem is the folks that really would like everyone do what they do. Reminds me of a gent in the local Cobra group - he positively pouted when I told him we had added mufflers to our Daytona.  He made it clear he liked loud.  So?  He can have loud.  And Nancy can have original.  I just like driving mine. Stephen Nelson -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of gonancy@juno.com Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 6:34 PM To: bill@incendium.com Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] More of Steve's Yellow Car What are you gonna impeach me from?  The Forum? Big deal. Look, someone has to point up these mindless modifications to cars that are now ( who knows why ) worth something. The unmolested cars are the ones that will raise to the top of the money pile. Remember I was the one who started the "impeach Shortt movement ". And look what happened. Gonancy, leaving my car mostly alone. Please note: message attached From: "bill@incendium.com" <bill@incendium.com> To: "gonancy@juno.com" <gonancy@juno.com>, davel@emspace.com Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] More of Steve's Yellow Car Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 17:43:10 -0600 ____________________________________________________________ Affordable Wireless Plans Set up is easy. Get online in minutes. Starting at only $14.95 per month! www.netzero.net?refcd=nzmem0216 _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. I think I can speak for most Pantera people. We don't live for our cars. Our cars exist for us and bring us pleasure. We all have different desires in what our car should look like and how it should run. That is the great thing about the Pantera. We can modify it exactly how we wish. I think most of us could care less how we are seen by the "Motoring World". Nancy, I appreciate your opinions as what goes "WAY TO [sic] FAR" but I do believe it is a bit judgmental and condescending. Haven't we had enough of that? Marshall Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: gonancy@juno.com Date: 8/27/16 11:16 PM (GMT-08:00) To: steve@snclocks.com Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] More of Steve's Yellow Car And THAT is exactly why De Tomasos, Panteras in general will NEVER be taken seriously by the Motoring World because of the ill conceived "additions" that are foisted on a great many of these cars. Granted I'm not saying that the usual upgrades like cooling, electrical and fuel systems shouldn't be addressed but clam shell rear deck lids is going WAY TO FAR. Flame away, I think most of you guys have less that good taste when it come to your car mods. GoNancy ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Stephen" <steve@snclocks.com> To: <gonancy@juno.com>, <bill@incendium.com> Cc: <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] More of Steve's Yellow Car Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 19:01:49 -0700 That's the beauty of these cars - we can do what we want to - or not. Problem is the folks that really would like everyone do what they do. Reminds me of a gent in the local Cobra group - he positively pouted when I told him we had added mufflers to our Daytona. He made it clear he liked loud. So? He can have loud. And Nancy can have original. I just like driving mine. Stephen Nelson -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of gonancy@juno.com Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 6:34 PM To: bill@incendium.com Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] More of Steve's Yellow Car What are you gonna impeach me from? The Forum? Big deal. Look, someone has to point up these mindless modifications to cars that are now ( who knows why ) worth something. The unmolested cars are the ones that will raise to the top of the money pile. Remember I was the one who started the "impeach Shortt movement ". And look what happened. Gonancy, leaving my car mostly alone. Please note: message attached From: "bill@incendium.com" <bill@incendium.com> To: "gonancy@juno.com" <gonancy@juno.com>, davel@emspace.com Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] More of Steve's Yellow Car Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 17:43:10 -0600 ____________________________________________________________ Affordable Wireless Plans Set up is easy. Get online in minutes. Starting at only $14.95 per month! www.netzero.net?refcd=nzmem0216 _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.