I'm looking for info on rear spoilers. HeightAngle form rear deck. Any pics. would be great. Getting ready for SSCC.Mark I'm looking for info on rear spoilers. Height Angle form rear deck. Any pics. would be great. Getting ready for SSCC. Mark
Presumably functional rather than just another delta wing.... Bob Benson has probably the most functional one I have seen, that said I have no technical information to back up my statement. Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of mark skwarek via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 10:11 AM To: DeTomaso List Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler I'm looking for info on rear spoilers. HeightAngle form rear deck. Any pics. would be great. Getting ready for SSCC.Mark Presumably functional rather than just another delta wing.... Bob Benson has probably the most functional one I have seen, that said I have no technical information to back up my statement. Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of mark skwarek via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 10:11 AM To: DeTomaso List Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler I'm looking for info on rear spoilers. HeightAngle form rear deck. Any pics. would be great. Getting ready for SSCC.Mark
.Plus, we use it as a beer rest when he isn't looking!. On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 10:44 AM, Julian Kift <julian_kift@hotmail.com> wrote: Presumably functional rather than just another delta wing.... Bob Benson has probably the most functional one I have seen, that said I have no technical information to back up my statement. Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of mark skwarek via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 10:11 AM To: DeTomaso List Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler I'm looking for info on rear spoilers. HeightAngle form rear deck. Any pics. would be great. Getting ready for SSCC.Mark _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. . Plus, we use it as a beer rest when he isn't looking! . On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 10:44 AM, Julian Kift <julian_kift@hotmail.com> wrote: Presumably functional rather than just another delta wing.... Bob Benson has probably the most functional one I have seen, that said I have no technical information to back up my statement. Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso <[1]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of mark skwarek via DeTomaso <[2]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 10:11 AM To: DeTomaso List Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler I'm looking for info on rear spoilers. HeightAngle form rear deck. Any pics. would be great. Getting ready for SSCC.Mark _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [3]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [4]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 2. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 3. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 4. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
You don't know how handy a rear wing can be! As Gray Gregory can vouch -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Brent Stewart via DeTomaso Sent: martes, 23 de agosto de 2016 19:50 To: Julian Kift; mark skwarek; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler .Plus, we use it as a beer rest when he isn't looking!. On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 10:44 AM, Julian Kift <julian_kift@hotmail.com> wrote: Presumably functional rather than just another delta wing.... Bob Benson has probably the most functional one I have seen, that said I have no technical information to back up my statement. Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of mark skwarek via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 10:11 AM To: DeTomaso List Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler I'm looking for info on rear spoilers. HeightAngle form rear deck. Any pics. would be great. Getting ready for SSCC.Mark _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
Julian Yes functional. Ill be running up to 165 MPH. Not enough time to do something like Bob's. Mark On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 1:44 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift@hotmail.com> wrote: #yiv0196044346 -- P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}#yiv0196044346 Presumably functional rather than just another delta wing.... Bob Benson has probably the most functional one I have seen, that said I have no technical information to back up my statement. Julian From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of mark skwarek via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 10:11 AM To: DeTomaso List Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler I'm looking for info on rear spoilers. HeightAngle form rear deck. Any pics. would be great. Getting ready for SSCC.Mark Julian Yes functional. Ill be running up to 165 MPH. Not enough time to do something like Bob's. Mark On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 1:44 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift@hotmail.com> wrote: Presumably functional rather than just another delta wing.... Bob Benson has probably the most functional one I have seen, that said I have no technical information to back up my statement. Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of mark skwarek via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 10:11 AM To: DeTomaso List Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler I'm looking for info on rear spoilers. HeightAngle form rear deck. Any pics. would be great. Getting ready for SSCC.Mark
But maybe Bob has patterns, pre-fabbed extra parts, mount drawings etc.? dave On 2016-08-23 11:11 AM, mark skwarek via DeTomaso wrote:
Julian Yes functional. Ill be running up to 165 MPH. Not enough time to do something like Bob's. Mark On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 1:44 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift@hotmail.com> wrote: Presumably functional rather than just another delta wing.... Bob Benson has probably the most functional one I have seen, that said I have no technical information to back up my statement. Julian __________________________________________________________________
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Larry stock used a simple yet effective (according to him) spoiler that was attached to the lip of the decklid. He can probably provide more input and better photos. Julian ________________________________ From: mark skwarek <ehpantera@yahoo.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 11:11 AM To: Julian Kift; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler Julian Yes functional. Ill be running up to 165 MPH. Not enough time to do something like Bob's. Mark On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 1:44 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift@hotmail.com> wrote: Presumably functional rather than just another delta wing.... Bob Benson has probably the most functional one I have seen, that said I have no technical information to back up my statement. Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of mark skwarek via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 10:11 AM To: DeTomaso List Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler I'm looking for info on rear spoilers. HeightAngle form rear deck. Any pics. would be great. Getting ready for SSCC.Mark Larry stock used a simple yet effective (according to him) spoiler that was attached to the lip of the decklid. He can probably provide more input and better photos. Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: mark skwarek <ehpantera@yahoo.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 11:11 AM To: Julian Kift; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler Julian Yes functional. Ill be running up to 165 MPH. Not enough time to do something like Bob's. Mark On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 1:44 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift@hotmail.com> wrote: Presumably functional rather than just another delta wing.... Bob Benson has probably the most functional one I have seen, that said I have no technical information to back up my statement. Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of mark skwarek via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 10:11 AM To: DeTomaso List Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler I'm looking for info on rear spoilers. HeightAngle form rear deck. Any pics. would be great. Getting ready for SSCC.Mark
I know that this has been beaten to death in the past, but seeing the GT/4 car made me think... The Group 4 cars didn't use any sort of rear spoiler. I don't know what speeds they did down the Mulsanne Straight at Le Mans, but assuming they had the Le Mans Gear (it's called that for something, right???) they should have been well into or above the 165mph zone. Is a spoiler really necessary? If you really want to know what the scoop is, you politely listen to the anecdotal evidence and listen to what the real racers do... -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Julian Kift Sent: martes, 23 de agosto de 2016 20:27 To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; mark skwarek Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler Larry stock used a simple yet effective (according to him) spoiler that was attached to the lip of the decklid. He can probably provide more input and better photos. Julian ________________________________ From: mark skwarek <ehpantera@yahoo.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 11:11 AM To: Julian Kift; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler Julian Yes functional. Ill be running up to 165 MPH. Not enough time to do something like Bob's. Mark On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 1:44 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift@hotmail.com> wrote: Presumably functional rather than just another delta wing.... Bob Benson has probably the most functional one I have seen, that said I have no technical information to back up my statement. Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of mark skwarek via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 10:11 AM To: DeTomaso List Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler I'm looking for info on rear spoilers. HeightAngle form rear deck. Any pics. would be great. Getting ready for SSCC.Mark
I think Lloyd Butfoy said the 3.20 (3..22?) ring and pinion were called La Mans gears. Ken From: Charles McCall <charlesmccall@gmail.com> To: 'Julian Kift' <julian_kift@hotmail.com>; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; 'mark skwarek' <ehpantera@yahoo.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler I know that this has been beaten to death in the past, but seeing the GT/4 car made me think... The Group 4 cars didn't use any sort of rear spoiler. I don't know what speeds they did down the Mulsanne Straight at Le Mans, but assuming they had the Le Mans Gear (it's called that for something, right???) they should have been well into or above the 165mph zone. Is a spoiler really necessary? If you really want to know what the scoop is, you politely listen to the anecdotal evidence and listen to what the real racers do... -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Julian Kift Sent: martes, 23 de agosto de 2016 20:27 To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; mark skwarek Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler Larry stock used a simple yet effective (according to him) spoiler that was attached to the lip of the decklid. He can probably provide more input and better photos. Julian ________________________________ From: mark skwarek <ehpantera@yahoo.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 11:11 AM To: Julian Kift; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler Julian Yes functional. Ill be running up to 165 MPH. Not enough time to do something like Bob's. Mark On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 1:44 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift@hotmail.com> wrote: Presumably functional rather than just another delta wing.... Bob Benson has probably the most functional one I have seen, that said I have no technical information to back up my statement. Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of mark skwarek via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 10:11 AM To: DeTomaso List Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler I'm looking for info on rear spoilers. HeightAngle form rear deck. Any pics. would be great. Getting ready for SSCC.Mark _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. I think Lloyd Butfoy said the 3.20 (3..22?) ring and pinion were called La Mans gears. Ken __________________________________________________________________ From: Charles McCall <charlesmccall@gmail.com> To: 'Julian Kift' <julian_kift@hotmail.com>; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; 'mark skwarek' <ehpantera@yahoo.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler I know that this has been beaten to death in the past, but seeing the GT/4 car made me think... The Group 4 cars didn't use any sort of rear spoiler. I don't know what speeds they did down the Mulsanne Straight at Le Mans, but assuming they had the Le Mans Gear (it's called that for something, right???) they should have been well into or above the 165mph zone. Is a spoiler really necessary? If you really want to know what the scoop is, you politely listen to the anecdotal evidence and listen to what the real racers do... -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:[1]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Julian Kift Sent: martes, 23 de agosto de 2016 20:27 To: [2]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; mark skwarek Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler Larry stock used a simple yet effective (according to him) spoiler that was attached to the lip of the decklid. He can probably provide more input and better photos. Julian ________________________________ From: mark skwarek <[3]ehpantera@yahoo.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 11:11 AM To: Julian Kift; [4]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler Julian Yes functional. Ill be running up to 165 MPH. Not enough time to do something like Bob's. Mark On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 1:44 PM, Julian Kift <[5]julian_kift@hotmail.com> wrote: Presumably functional rather than just another delta wing.... Bob Benson has probably the most functional one I have seen, that said I have no technical information to back up my statement. Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso <[6]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of mark skwarek via DeTomaso <[7]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 10:11 AM To: DeTomaso List Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler I'm looking for info on rear spoilers. HeightAngle form rear deck. Any pics. would be great. 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No, that's the 3.77. The intermediate ratio is 4.0. Mike Sent from my iPhone On Aug 23, 2016, at 15:34, Ken Green via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
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From: Charles McCall <charlesmccall@gmail.com> To: 'Julian Kift' <julian_kift@hotmail.com>; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; 'mark skwarek' <ehpantera@yahoo.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler I know that this has been beaten to death in the past, but seeing the GT/4 car made me think... The Group 4 cars didn't use any sort of rear spoiler. I don't know what speeds they did down the Mulsanne Straight at Le Mans, but assuming they had the Le Mans Gear (it's called that for something, right???) they should have been well into or above the 165mph zone. Is a spoiler really necessary? If you really want to know what the scoop is, you politely listen to the anecdotal evidence and listen to what the real racers do... -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:[1]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Julian Kift Sent: martes, 23 de agosto de 2016 20:27 To: [2]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; mark skwarek Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler Larry stock used a simple yet effective (according to him) spoiler that was attached to the lip of the decklid. He can probably provide more input and better photos. Julian ________________________________ From: mark skwarek <[3]ehpantera@yahoo.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 11:11 AM To: Julian Kift; [4]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler Julian Yes functional. Ill be running up to 165 MPH. Not enough time to do something like Bob's. Mark On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 1:44 PM, Julian Kift <[5]julian_kift@hotmail.com> wrote: Presumably functional rather than just another delta wing.... Bob Benson has probably the most functional one I have seen, that said I have no technical information to back up my statement. Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso <[6]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of mark skwarek via DeTomaso <[7]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 10:11 AM To: DeTomaso List Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler I'm looking for info on rear spoilers. HeightAngle form rear deck. Any pics. would be great. Getting ready for SSCC.Mark _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [8]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [webicon_gray.png] [9]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
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The GT5 spoiler creates an amazing amount of downforce at speed. File this under "Kids, don't try this at home or on an island." A few years ago, Paul DeCoite wanted to see what his Yates NASCAR motor would do in his '72 GT5 clone. Somewhere north of 160, he looked in the rearview mirror and saw his rear deck lid and leading edge (by the hinges) bowing. Fortunately, the hinges held, but I remember them being pretty messed up after the fact. Aloha, Scott -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of mark skwarek via DeTomaso Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 7:12 AM To: DeTomaso List Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler I'm looking for info on rear spoilers. HeightAngle form rear deck. Any pics. would be great. Getting ready for SSCC.Mark
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