OK, here's my take on NPC! We have so many interesting guys in the Pantera world, who have such great and diverse jobs, lifestyles, hobbies, etc., and many times their private life bleeds over to something that pertains to Panteras - I don't have a problem with attaching "NPC" in the subject line, and tell us fascinating things. (Mike flies humongous jets. The guy posted this week about his home with the landing strip. Larry (Ohio) keeps us in stitches. All of the SoCal and NoCal folks live in the Promised land. Michael Shortt has such great talent, as soon as he gets himself saddled up. Terry taking us to Mars. And, what other car club has such a high percent of members who can take their car completely apart and put it back together! And, on and on and on and on….) ---BILL Lewis ________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Jerry Knotts <knottsj@galstar.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 5:43 PM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! Terry, Thanks for the info. I ordered the aluminum faced insulation. By the way I go to Mars every weekday morning. We just call it the Donut shop locally. Thanks again, jerry knotts On 7/1/2016 10:38 AM, Himes, Terry (397C) wrote:

Delete Delete. If not a spacenut. First, I am a Spacecraft, Computer Science, Aerospace guy. They keep me far away from the hardware if they can. ;-) Most people today are involved in the Juno JOI happening this weekend. This was what I could glean from the NASA websites. This piece (I have for show when I talk) is Kapton with 20 layers of dacron netting between silver Kapton-fiberglass fabric layers. This cuts down on heat transfer between layers. Since this is only for show, mine is not gold, but most are. The amount of gold used on an entire spacecraft can be measured in ounces. Gold is a uniquely workable metal and the foil is used primarily as radiation shield. It's more about reflection and you only need a very thin amount. Once you leave the protective cocoon of the earths magnetosphere (1m miles out), the radiation is extreme. Plus gold does not corrode. It requires less care and maintenance to keep mission-ready than it's cheaper competitors, silver, copper or aluminum. Astronauts visors are polycarbonate plastic coated with a thin layer of gold. Both IR and visible light can enter our eye's retina equally well but our eyes have visible receptors but not IR ones. If you encounter intense visible light those receptors will warn you to turn away. But with intense IR you would not realize your eyes are being burned. Do you still want to go to Mars? Hmmm? For those interested in Juno this 4th of July; [1]http://www.voanews.com/content/nasa-juno-jupiter/3392909.html [2]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6552 [3]http://eyes.nasa.gov/

[cid:EBDB49B6-5B81-4C6D-9625-8B378A2B2B23]

"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,

stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"

Terry W. Himes

JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Dawn Spacecraft Team

Rosetta Sequence Team Lead

Phone: (818) 393-6261

Cell: (818) 653-8213

Fax: (818) 393-3147

[4]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov

From: Terry Himes <[5]Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov> Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:51 AM To: Larry - Ohio Time <[6]Larry@ohiotimecorp.com>, 'Julian Kift' <[7]julian_kift@hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko' <[8]thedrol@pobox.com>, "[9]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[10]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material?

I will look into it. I have a piece of shielding in my office. It has 20 layers.

But right now I am crushed building the departure sequences for Dawn. Plus we have Juno JOI this weekend. Crazy stuff happening all weekend. [11]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/ Get back to you later...

"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,

stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"

Terry W. Himes

JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Dawn Spacecraft Team

Rosetta Sequence Team Lead

Phone: (818) 393-6261

Cell: (818) 653-8213

Fax: (818) 393-3147

[12]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov

From: DeTomaso <[13]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Larry - Ohio Time <[14]Larry@ohiotimecorp.com> Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:36 AM To: 'Julian Kift' <[15]julian_kift@hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko' <[16]thedrol@pobox.com>, "[17]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[18]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I recall reading a blurb from NASA (ya I read that stuff too)that the gold color faced insulation was much better then the aluminum color faced insulation. You do see it in all the photos of the space craft. Let's see if Terry knows about this. Larry (what happened to the "Pure Gold" car?) - Cleveland -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[19]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Julian Kift Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 10:29 AM To: Paul Timko; [20]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I second that the cloth and aluminium foils are top rate. Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso <[21]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Paul Timko <[22]thedrol@pobox.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 7:05 AM To: [23]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? This is a list of stuff a lot or racers use to protect their bodywork. Some of it is pretty expensive, but so is paint... [24]https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=HEATBARRIER Paul #9270 On 6/30/2016 8:57 AM, Jerry Knotts wrote:

71 Pantera well worn 377 twin turbo motor.

After a short trip yesterday I noticed one of my turbos was leaking

oil. A small amount on the input (pressure) side. A quick tightening

and it was fine. I did notice a small paint bubble on the deck directly

above the turbo. There is about 2 inches clearance about the turbos but

the deck was really hot to the touch.

Question. I am looking for a product that can be applied (as a sheet or

thin blanket) to the underside of the deck above the turbo. I have some

chromed sheet metal shields that I may be able to fit to the turbos but

would like the real protection of an insulator.

Thanks in advance to the "collective",

jerry knotts

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[http://gdb.voanews.com/14B8BE09-2362-4F96-BE58-F086610038BD_w640_r1_s.jpg]<http://www.voanews.com/content/nasa-juno-jupiter/3392909.html> NASA Juno Spacecraft, Nearing Jupiter, to Shed Light on ...<http://www.voanews.com/content/nasa-juno-jupiter/3392909.html> www.voanews.com PASADENA, CALIFORNIA— After a five-year journey, the spacecraft Juno is nearing its destination, the planet Jupiter, where it will enter polar orbit and start ...

2. http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6552 3. http://eyes.nasa.gov/ 4. mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov 5. mailto:Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov 6. mailto:Larry@ohiotimecorp.com 7. mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com 8. mailto:thedrol@pobox.com 9. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 10. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 11. http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/ 12. mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov 13. mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 14. mailto:Larry@ohiotimecorp.com 15. mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com 16. mailto:thedrol@pobox.com 17. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 18. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 19. mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 20. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 21. mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 22. mailto:thedrol@pobox.com 23. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 24. https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=HEATBARRIER 25. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 26. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 27. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 28. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 29. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 30. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso

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OK, here's my take on NPC! We have so many interesting guys in the Pantera world, who have such great and diverse jobs, lifestyles, hobbies, etc., and many times their private life bleeds over to something that pertains to Panteras - I don't have a problem with attaching "NPC" in the subject line, and tell us fascinating things. (Mike flies humongous jets. The guy posted this week about his home with the landing strip. Larry (Ohio) keeps us in stitches. All of the SoCal and NoCal folks live in the Promised land. Michael Shortt has such great talent, as soon as he gets himself saddled up. Terry taking us to Mars. And, what other car club has such a high percent of members who can take their car completely apart and put it back together! And, on and on and on and on....) ---BILL Lewis __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Jerry Knotts <knottsj@galstar.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 5:43 PM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! Terry, Thanks for the info. I ordered the aluminum faced insulation. By the way I go to Mars every weekday morning. We just call it the Donut shop locally. Thanks again, jerry knotts On 7/1/2016 10:38 AM, Himes, Terry (397C) wrote:

Delete Delete. If not a spacenut. First, I am a Spacecraft, Computer Science, Aerospace guy. They

keep

me far away from the hardware if they can. ;-) Most people today are involved in the Juno JOI happening this

weekend.

This was what I could glean from the NASA websites. This piece (I have for show when I talk) is Kapton with 20 layers

of

dacron netting between silver Kapton-fiberglass fabric layers. This cuts down on heat transfer between layers. Since this is

only for

show, mine is not gold, but most are. The amount of gold used on an entire spacecraft can be measured

in

ounces. Gold is a uniquely workable metal and the foil is used primarily as radiation shield. It's more about

reflection and

you only need a very thin amount. Once you leave the protective cocoon of the earths magnetosphere (1m miles out), the radiation is extreme. Plus gold does not corrode. It requires less care and maintenance to keep mission-ready than

it's

cheaper competitors, silver, copper or aluminum. Astronauts visors are polycarbonate plastic coated with a thin

layer of

gold. Both IR and visible light can enter our eye's retina equally well but our eyes have visible receptors but not IR ones.

If

you encounter intense visible light those receptors will warn you to turn away. But with intense IR you would not realize your

eyes are

being burned. Do you still want to go to Mars? Hmmm? For those interested in Juno this 4th of July; [1]http://www.voanews.com/content/nasa-juno-jupiter/3392909.html [2]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6552 [3]http://eyes.nasa.gov/

[cid:EBDB49B6-5B81-4C6D-9625-8B378A2B2B23]

"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,

stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"

Terry W. Himes

JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Dawn Spacecraft Team

Rosetta Sequence Team Lead

Phone: (818) 393-6261

Cell: (818) 653-8213

Fax: (818) 393-3147

[4]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov

From: Terry Himes <[5]Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov> Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:51 AM To: Larry - Ohio Time <[6]Larry@ohiotimecorp.com>, 'Julian Kift' <[7]julian_kift@hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko'

<[8]thedrol@pobox.com>,

"[9]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[10]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material?

I will look into it. I have a piece of shielding in my office.

It has

20 layers.

But right now I am crushed building the departure sequences for

Dawn.

Plus we have Juno JOI this weekend. Crazy stuff happening all weekend. [11]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/ Get back to you later...

"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,

stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"

Terry W. Himes

JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Dawn Spacecraft Team

Rosetta Sequence Team Lead

Phone: (818) 393-6261

Cell: (818) 653-8213

Fax: (818) 393-3147

[12]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov

From: DeTomaso <[13]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on

behalf

of Larry - Ohio Time <[14]Larry@ohiotimecorp.com> Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:36 AM To: 'Julian Kift' <[15]julian_kift@hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko' <[16]thedrol@pobox.com>, "[17]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[18]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I recall reading a blurb from NASA (ya I read that stuff too)that

the

gold color faced insulation was much better then the aluminum color

faced

insulation. You do see it in all the photos of the space craft. Let's see if Terry knows about this. Larry (what happened to the "Pure Gold" car?) - Cleveland -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso

[[19]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On

Behalf Of Julian Kift Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 10:29 AM To: Paul Timko; [20]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I second that the cloth and aluminium foils are top rate. Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso <[21]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on

behalf

of Paul Timko <[22]thedrol@pobox.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 7:05 AM To: [23]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? This is a list of stuff a lot or racers use to protect their

bodywork.

Some of it is pretty expensive, but so is paint...

[24]https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=HEATBARRIER

Paul #9270 On 6/30/2016 8:57 AM, Jerry Knotts wrote:

71 Pantera well worn 377 twin turbo motor.

After a short trip yesterday I noticed one of my turbos was

leaking

oil. A small amount on the input (pressure) side. A quick

tightening

and it was fine. I did notice a small paint bubble on the deck directly

above the turbo. There is about 2 inches clearance about the

turbos

but

the deck was really hot to the touch.

Question. I am looking for a product that can be applied (as a

sheet

or

thin blanket) to the underside of the deck above the turbo. I

have

some

chromed sheet metal shields that I may be able to fit to the

turbos but

would like the real protection of an insulator.

Thanks in advance to the "collective",

jerry knotts

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[1]http://www.voanews.com/content/nasa-juno-jupiter/3392909.html [2][14B8BE09-2362-4F96-BE58-F086610038BD_w640_r1_s.jpg] [3]NASA Juno Spacecraft, Nearing Jupiter, to Shed Light on ... www.voanews.com PASADENA, CALIFORNIA-- After a five-year journey, the spacecraft Juno is nearing its destination, the planet Jupiter, where it will enter polar orbit and start ...

2. [4]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6552 3. [5]http://eyes.nasa.gov/ 4. [6]mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov 5. [7]mailto:Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov 6. [8]mailto:Larry@ohiotimecorp.com 7. [9]mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com 8. [10]mailto:thedrol@pobox.com 9. [11]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 10. [12]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 11. [13]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/ 12. [14]mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov 13. [15]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 14. [16]mailto:Larry@ohiotimecorp.com 15. [17]mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com 16. [18]mailto:thedrol@pobox.com 17. [19]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 18. [20]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 19. [21]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 20. [22]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 21. [23]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 22. [24]mailto:thedrol@pobox.com 23. [25]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 24.

25. [27]mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 26. [28]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 27. [29]mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 28. [30]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 29. [31]mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 30. [32]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso

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Is there a web site out there where we can create our own sub-domains and post project progress on our cars, something not part of POCA? Ken From: Corey Price <coreyjprice@gmail.com> To: Bill Lewis <lotus0005@hotmail.com> Cc: "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>; Jerry Knotts <knottsj@galstar.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! Some of us take our cars apart and then life happens... I'm excited though; I will finally have some cash to put toward some much needed bodywork and paint! I'm hoping to have the car done this time next year but don't know where exactly the money will be coming from.  Maybe I should start a charity! ;) Corey

On Jul 1, 2016, at 12:40 PM, Bill Lewis <lotus0005@hotmail.com> wrote:

  OK, here's my take on NPC!

  We have so many interesting guys in the Pantera world, who have such   great and diverse jobs, lifestyles, hobbies, etc., and many times their   private life bleeds over to something that pertains to Panteras - I   don't have a problem with attaching "NPC" in the subject line, and tell   us fascinating things.

  (Mike flies humongous jets.  The guy posted this week about his home   with the landing strip.  Larry (Ohio) keeps us in stitches.  All of the   SoCal and NoCal folks live in the Promised land.  Michael Shortt has   such great talent, as soon as he gets himself saddled up.  Terry taking   us to Mars.  And, what other car club has such a high percent of   members who can take their car completely apart and put it back   together!  And, on and on and on and on....)    ---BILL Lewis     __________________________________________________________________

  From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of   Jerry Knotts <knottsj@galstar.com>   Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 5:43 PM   To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!!

  Terry,   Thanks for the info.  I ordered the aluminum faced insulation.   By the way I go to Mars every weekday morning.  We just call it the   Donut shop locally.   Thanks again,   jerry knotts

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  On 7/1/2016 10:38 AM, Himes, Terry (397C) wrote:     Delete Delete.  If not a spacenut.     First, I am a Spacecraft, Computer Science, Aerospace guy.  They   keep     me far away from the hardware if they can.  ;-)     Most people today are involved in the Juno JOI happening this   weekend.     This was what I could glean from the NASA     websites.     This piece (I have for show when I talk) is Kapton with 20 layers   of     dacron netting between silver Kapton-fiberglass fabric layers.     This cuts down on heat transfer between layers.  Since this is   only for     show, mine is not gold, but most are.     The amount of gold used on an entire spacecraft can be measured   in     ounces.  Gold is a uniquely workable metal and the foil     is used primarily as radiation shield.  It's more about   reflection and     you only need a very thin amount. Once you leave the     protective cocoon of the earths magnetosphere (1m miles out), the     radiation is extreme.  Plus gold does not corrode.     It requires less care and maintenance to keep mission-ready than   it's     cheaper competitors, silver, copper or aluminum.     Astronauts visors are polycarbonate plastic coated with a thin   layer of     gold.  Both IR and visible light can enter our eye's retina     equally well but our eyes have visible receptors but not IR ones.   If     you encounter intense visible light those receptors will warn you     to turn away.  But with intense IR you would not realize your   eyes are     being burned.  Do you still want to go to Mars?  Hmmm?     For those interested in Juno this 4th of July;     [1]http://www.voanews.com/content/nasa-juno-jupiter/3392909.html     [2]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6552     [3]http://eyes.nasa.gov/

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    [4]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov

    From: Terry Himes <[5]Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov>     Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:51 AM     To: Larry - Ohio Time <[6]Larry@ohiotimecorp.com>, 'Julian Kift'     <[7]julian_kift@hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko'   <[8]thedrol@pobox.com>,     "[9]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com"     <[10]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material?

    I will look into it. I have a piece of shielding in my office.   It has     20 layers.

    But right now I am crushed building the departure sequences for   Dawn.     Plus we have Juno JOI     this weekend.  Crazy stuff happening all weekend.     [11]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/     Get back to you later...

    "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,

    stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"

    Terry W. Himes

    JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory

    Dawn Spacecraft Team

    Rosetta Sequence Team Lead

    Phone: (818) 393-6261

    Cell:    (818) 653-8213

    Fax:    (818) 393-3147

    [12]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov

    From: DeTomaso <[13]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on   behalf     of Larry - Ohio Time <[14]Larry@ohiotimecorp.com>     Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:36 AM     To: 'Julian Kift' <[15]julian_kift@hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko'     <[16]thedrol@pobox.com>, "[17]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com"     <[18]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material?     I recall reading a blurb from NASA (ya I read that stuff too)that   the     gold     color faced insulation was much better then the aluminum color   faced     insulation. You do see it in all the photos of the space craft.     Let's see if Terry knows about this.     Larry (what happened to the "Pure Gold" car?) - Cleveland     -----Original Message-----     From: DeTomaso   [[19]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On     Behalf     Of Julian Kift     Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 10:29 AM     To: Paul Timko; [20]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material?     I second that the cloth and aluminium foils are top rate.     Julian     ________________________________     From: DeTomaso <[21]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on   behalf     of Paul     Timko <[22]thedrol@pobox.com>     Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 7:05 AM     To: [23]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material?     This is a list of stuff a lot or racers use to protect their   bodywork.     Some of it is pretty expensive, but so is paint...   [24]https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=HEATBARRIER     Paul     #9270     On 6/30/2016 8:57 AM, Jerry Knotts wrote:

    71 Pantera well worn 377 twin turbo motor.

    After a short trip yesterday I noticed one of my turbos was   leaking

    oil.  A small amount on the input (pressure) side.  A quick   tightening

    and it was fine.  I did notice a small paint bubble on the deck     directly

    above the turbo.  There is about 2 inches clearance about the   turbos     but

    the deck was really hot to the touch.

    Question.  I am looking for a product that can be applied (as a   sheet     or

    thin blanket) to the underside of the deck above the turbo.  I   have     some

    chromed sheet metal shields that I may be able to fit to the   turbos but

    would like the real protection of an insulator.

    Thanks in advance to the "collective",

    jerry knotts

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On Jul 1, 2016, at 12:40 PM, Bill Lewis <[1]lotus0005@hotmail.com> wrote:

OK, here's my take on NPC!

We have so many interesting guys in the Pantera world, who have such great and diverse jobs, lifestyles, hobbies, etc., and many times

private life bleeds over to something that pertains to Panteras - I don't have a problem with attaching "NPC" in the subject line, and tell us fascinating things.

(Mike flies humongous jets. The guy posted this week about his home with the landing strip. Larry (Ohio) keeps us in stitches. All of

Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. Is there a web site out there where we can create our own sub-domains and post project progress on our cars, something not part of POCA? Ken __________________________________________________________________ From: Corey Price <coreyjprice@gmail.com> To: Bill Lewis <lotus0005@hotmail.com> Cc: "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>; Jerry Knotts <knottsj@galstar.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! Some of us take our cars apart and then life happens... I'm excited though; I will finally have some cash to put toward some much needed bodywork and paint! I'm hoping to have the car done this time next year but don't know where exactly the money will be coming from. Maybe I should start a charity! ;) Corey their the

SoCal and NoCal folks live in the Promised land. Michael Shortt has such great talent, as soon as he gets himself saddled up. Terry taking us to Mars. And, what other car club has such a high percent of members who can take their car completely apart and put it back together! And, on and on and on and on....) ---BILL Lewis __________________________________________________________________

From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Jerry Knotts <[3]knottsj@galstar.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 5:43 PM To: [4]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!!

Terry, Thanks for the info. I ordered the aluminum faced insulation. By the way I go to Mars every weekday morning. We just call it the Donut shop locally. Thanks again, jerry knotts

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On 7/1/2016 10:38 AM, Himes, Terry (397C) wrote: Delete Delete. If not a spacenut. First, I am a Spacecraft, Computer Science, Aerospace guy. They keep me far away from the hardware if they can. ;-) Most people today are involved in the Juno JOI happening this weekend. This was what I could glean from the NASA websites. This piece (I have for show when I talk) is Kapton with 20 layers of dacron netting between silver Kapton-fiberglass fabric layers. This cuts down on heat transfer between layers. Since this is only for show, mine is not gold, but most are. The amount of gold used on an entire spacecraft can be measured in ounces. Gold is a uniquely workable metal and the foil is used primarily as radiation shield. It's more about reflection and you only need a very thin amount. Once you leave the protective cocoon of the earths magnetosphere (1m miles out), the radiation is extreme. Plus gold does not corrode. It requires less care and maintenance to keep mission-ready than it's cheaper competitors, silver, copper or aluminum. Astronauts visors are polycarbonate plastic coated with a thin layer of gold. Both IR and visible light can enter our eye's retina equally well but our eyes have visible receptors but not IR ones. If you encounter intense visible light those receptors will warn you to turn away. But with intense IR you would not realize your eyes are being burned. Do you still want to go to Mars? Hmmm? For those interested in Juno this 4th of July;

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[2][6]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6552 [3][7]http://eyes.nasa.gov/

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stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"

Terry W. Himes

JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Dawn Spacecraft Team

Rosetta Sequence Team Lead

Phone: (818) 393-6261

Cell: (818) 653-8213

Fax: (818) 393-3147

[4][8]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov

From: Terry Himes <[5][9]Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov> Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:51 AM To: Larry - Ohio Time <[6][10]Larry@ohiotimecorp.com>, 'Julian Kift' <[7][11]julian_kift@hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko' <[8][12]thedrol@pobox.com>, "[9][13]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[10][14]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material?

I will look into it. I have a piece of shielding in my office. It has 20 layers.

But right now I am crushed building the departure sequences for Dawn. Plus we have Juno JOI this weekend. Crazy stuff happening all weekend. [11][15]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/ Get back to you later...

"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,

stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"

Terry W. Himes

JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Dawn Spacecraft Team

Rosetta Sequence Team Lead

Phone: (818) 393-6261

Cell: (818) 653-8213

Fax: (818) 393-3147

[12][16]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov

From: DeTomaso <[13][17]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Larry - Ohio Time <[14][18]Larry@ohiotimecorp.com> Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:36 AM To: 'Julian Kift' <[15][19]julian_kift@hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko' <[16][20]thedrol@pobox.com>, "[17][21]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[18][22]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I recall reading a blurb from NASA (ya I read that stuff too)that

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gold color faced insulation was much better then the aluminum color faced insulation. You do see it in all the photos of the space craft. Let's see if Terry knows about this. Larry (what happened to the "Pure Gold" car?) - Cleveland -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[19]mailto:[23]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Julian Kift Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 10:29 AM To: Paul Timko; [20][24]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I second that the cloth and aluminium foils are top rate. Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso <[21][25]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Paul Timko <[22][26]thedrol@pobox.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 7:05 AM To: [23][27]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? This is a list of stuff a lot or racers use to protect their

[1][5]http://www.voanews.com/content/nasa-juno-jupiter/3392909.html the bodywork.

...

Some of it is pretty expensive, but so is paint...

[24][28]https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=HEATBARRIER

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Paul #9270 On 6/30/2016 8:57 AM, Jerry Knotts wrote:

71 Pantera well worn 377 twin turbo motor.

After a short trip yesterday I noticed one of my turbos was leaking

oil. A small amount on the input (pressure) side. A quick tightening

and it was fine. I did notice a small paint bubble on the deck directly

above the turbo. There is about 2 inches clearance about the turbos but

the deck was really hot to the touch.

Question. I am looking for a product that can be applied (as a sheet or

thin blanket) to the underside of the deck above the turbo. I have some

chromed sheet metal shields that I may be able to fit to the turbos but

would like the real protection of an insulator.

Thanks in advance to the "collective",

jerry knotts

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I hear ya! A Go-Fund-Me about your car. Show sad pics of it in pieces. Heart-wrenching stories like: How she was born in Italy and immediate sold in to labor in the U.S., How all the other cars would call her half-breed, How she was abused by her former owners and made to sleep in the garage. WITH A FIAT! How she beat body cancer three times so far, but it keeps coming back, How much better life is now that she has all these friends, How her current owner gives her a sponge bath every week and talks to her, The list could go on and on..... You can list the different phases of treatment and then watch while the Pantera community adopts her as their community project to save her! Nah, better just work overtime :) Rob On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 3:51 PM, James coyne <tecnosound@hotmail.com> wrote:

I like that idea ! Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:04:42 +0000 To: coreyjprice@gmail.com; lotus0005@hotmail.com CC: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; knottsj@galstar.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! From: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Is there a web site out there where we can create our own sub-domains and post p roject progress on our cars, something not part of POCA? Ken

From: Corey Price <coreyjprice@gmail.com> To: Bill Lewis <lotus0005@hotmail.com> Cc: "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>; Jerry Knotts <knottsj@galstar.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!!

Some of us take our cars apart and then life happens... I'm excited though; I will finally have some cash to put toward some much needed bodywork and paint! I'm hoping to have the car done this time next year but don 't know where exactly the money will be coming from. Maybe I should start a cha rity! ;)

Corey

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On Jul 1, 2016, at 12:40 PM, Bill Lewis <lotus0005@hotmail.com> wrote:

OK, here's my take on NPC!

We have so many interesting guys in the Pantera world, who have such great and diverse jobs, lifestyles, hobbies, etc., and many times their private life bleeds over to something that pertains to Panteras - I don't have a problem with attaching "NPC" in the subject line, and tell us fascinating things.

(Mike flies humongous jets. The guy posted this week about his home with the landing strip. Larry (Ohio) keeps us in stitches. All of the SoCal and NoCal folks live in the Promised land. Michael Shortt has such great talent, as soon as he gets himself saddled up. Terry taking us to Mars. And, what other car club has such a high percent of members who can take their car completely apart and put it back together! And, on and on and on and on....) ---BILL Lewis __________________________________________________________________

From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Jerry Knotts <knottsj@galstar.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 5:43 PM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!!

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On 7/1/2016 10:38 AM, Himes, Terry (397C) wrote: Delete Delete. If not a spacenut. First, I am a Spacecraft, Computer Science, Aerospace guy. They keep me far away from the hardware if they can. ;-) Most people today are involved in the Juno JOI happening this weekend. This was what I could glean from the NASA websites. This piece (I have for show when I talk) is Kapton with 20 layers of dacron netting between silver Kapton-fiberglass fabric layers. This cuts down on heat transfer between layers. Since this is only for show, mine is not gold, but most are. The amount of gold used on an entire spacecraft can be measured in ounces. Gold is a uniquely workable metal and the foil is used primarily as radiation shield. It's more about reflection and you only need a very thin amount. Once you leave the protective cocoon of the earths magnetosphere (1m miles out), the radiation is extreme. Plus gold does not corrode. It requires less care and maintenance to keep mission-ready than it's cheaper competitors, silver, copper or aluminum. Astronauts visors are polycarbonate plastic coated with a thin layer of gold. Both IR and visible light can enter our eye's retina equally well but our eyes have visible receptors but not IR ones. If you encounter intense visible light those receptors will warn you to turn away. But with intense IR you would not realize your eyes are being burned. Do you still want to go to Mars? Hmmm? For those interested in Juno this 4th of July; [1][1]http://www.voanews.com/content/nasa-juno-jupiter/3392909.html [2][2]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6552 [3][3]http://eyes.nasa.gov/

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stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"

Terry W. Himes

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Rosetta Sequence Team Lead

Phone: (818) 393-6261

Cell: (818) 653-8213

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From: Terry Himes <[5]Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov> Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:51 AM To: Larry - Ohio Time <[6]Larry@ohiotimecorp.com>, 'Julian Kift' <[7]julian_kift@hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko' <[8]thedrol@pobox.com>, "[9]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[10]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material?

I will look into it. I have a piece of shielding in my office. It has 20 layers.

But right now I am crushed building the departure sequences for Dawn. Plus we have Juno JOI this weekend. Crazy stuff happening all weekend. [11][4]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/ Get back to you later...

"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,

stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"

Terry W. Himes

JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Dawn Spacecraft Team

Rosetta Sequence Team Lead

Phone: (818) 393-6261

Cell: (818) 653-8213

Fax: (818) 393-3147

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From: DeTomaso <[13]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Larry - Ohio Time <[14]Larry@ohiotimecorp.com> Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:36 AM To: 'Julian Kift' <[15]julian_kift@hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko' <[16]thedrol@pobox.com>, "[17]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[18]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I recall reading a blurb from NASA (ya I read that stuff too)that

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gold color faced insulation was much better then the aluminum color faced insulation. You do see it in all the photos of the space craft. Let's see if Terry knows about this. Larry (what happened to the "Pure Gold" car?) - Cleveland -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[19]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Julian Kift Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 10:29 AM To: Paul Timko; [20]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I second that the cloth and aluminium foils are top rate. Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso <[21]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Paul Timko <[22]thedrol@pobox.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 7:05 AM To: [23]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? This is a list of stuff a lot or racers use to protect their

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Some of it is pretty expensive, but so is paint... [24][5]https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=HEATBARRIER Paul #9270 On 6/30/2016 8:57 AM, Jerry Knotts wrote:

71 Pantera well worn 377 twin turbo motor.

After a short trip yesterday I noticed one of my turbos was leaking

oil. A small amount on the input (pressure) side. A quick tightening

and it was fine. I did notice a small paint bubble on the deck directly

above the turbo. There is about 2 inches clearance about the turbos but

the deck was really hot to the touch.

Question. I am looking for a product that can be applied (as a sheet or

thin blanket) to the underside of the deck above the turbo. I have some

chromed sheet metal shields that I may be able to fit to the turbos but

would like the real protection of an insulator.

Thanks in advance to the "collective",

jerry knotts

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I hear ya!A A Go-Fund-Me about your car.A Show sad pics of it in pieces.A Heart-wrenching stories like: A A How she was born in Italy and immediate sold in to labor in the U.S., A A How all the other cars would call her half-breed, A A How she was abused by her former owners and made to sleep in the garage. WITH A FIAT! A A How she beat body cancer three times so far, but it keeps coming back, A A How much better life is now that she has all these friends, A A How her current owner gives her a sponge bath every week and talks to her, A A A A The list could go on and on..... You can list the different phases of treatment and then watch while the Pantera community adopts her as their community project to save her! Nah, better just work overtime :) RobA On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 3:51 PM, James coyne <[1]tecnosound@hotmail.com> wrote: A A I like that idea ! A A Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:04:42 +0000 A A To: [2]coreyjprice@gmail.com; [3]lotus0005@hotmail.com A A CC: [4]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; [5]knottsj@galstar.com A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! A A From: [6]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Is there a web site out there where we can create our own sub-domains and post p roject progress on our cars, something not part of POCA? Ken A A A From: Corey Price <[7]coreyjprice@gmail.com> A To: Bill Lewis <[8]lotus0005@hotmail.com> Cc: "[9]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[10]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>; Jerry A Knotts <[11]knottsj@galstar.com> A Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 11:49 AM A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! Some of us take our cars apart and then life happens... I'm excited though; I will finally have some cash to put toward some much needed A bodywork and paint! I'm hoping to have the car done this time next year but don 't know where exactly the money will be coming from.A Maybe I should start a cha rity! ;) Corey > On Jul 1, 2016, at 12:40 PM, Bill Lewis <[12]lotus0005@hotmail.com> wrote: > >A OK, here's my take on NPC! > >A We have so many interesting guys in the Pantera world, who have such >A great and diverse jobs, lifestyles, hobbies, etc., and many times their >A private life bleeds over to something that pertains to Panteras - I >A don't have a problem with attaching "NPC" in the subject line, and tell >A us fascinating things. > >A (Mike flies humongous jets.A The guy posted this week about his home >A with the landing strip.A Larry (Ohio) keeps us in stitches.A All of the >A SoCal and NoCal folks live in the Promised land.A Michael Shortt has >A such great talent, as soon as he gets himself saddled up.A Terry taking >A us to Mars.A And, what other car club has such a high percent of >A members who can take their car completely apart and put it back >A together!A And, on and on and on and on....)A A ---BILL Lewis >A A __________________________________________________________________ > >A From: DeTomaso <[13]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of >A Jerry Knotts <[14]knottsj@galstar.com> >A Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 5:43 PM >A To: [15]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com >A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! > >A Terry, >A Thanks for the info.A I ordered the aluminum faced insulation. >A By the way I go to Mars every weekday morning.A We just call it the >A Donut shop locally. >A Thanks again, >A jerry knotts >>A On 7/1/2016 10:38 AM, Himes, Terry (397C) wrote: >>A A Delete Delete.A If not a spacenut. >>A A First, I am a Spacecraft, Computer Science, Aerospace guy.A They >A keep >>A A me far away from the hardware if they can.A ;-) >>A A Most people today are involved in the Juno JOI happening this >A weekend. >>A A This was what I could glean from the NASA >>A A websites. >>A A This piece (I have for show when I talk) is Kapton with 20 layers >A of >>A A dacron netting between silver Kapton-fiberglass fabric layers. >>A A This cuts down on heat transfer between layers.A Since this is >A only for >>A A show, mine is not gold, but most are. >>A A The amount of gold used on an entire spacecraft can be measured >A in >>A A ounces.A Gold is a uniquely workable metal and the foil >>A A is used primarily as radiation shield.A It's more about >A reflection and >>A A you only need a very thin amount. Once you leave the >>A A protective cocoon of the earths magnetosphere (1m miles out), the >>A A radiation is extreme.A Plus gold does not corrode. >>A A It requires less care and maintenance to keep mission-ready than >A it's >>A A cheaper competitors, silver, copper or aluminum. >>A A Astronauts visors are polycarbonate plastic coated with a thin >A layer of >>A A gold.A Both IR and visible light can enter our eye's retina >>A A equally well but our eyes have visible receptors but not IR ones. >A If >>A A you encounter intense visible light those receptors will warn you >>A A to turn away.A But with intense IR you would not realize your >A eyes are >>A A being burned.A Do you still want to go to Mars?A Hmmm? >>A A For those interested in Juno this 4th of July; >>A A [1][1][16]http://www.voanews.com/content/nasa-juno-jupiter/3392909.h tml >>A A [2][2][17]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6552 >>A A [3][3][18]http://eyes.nasa.gov/ >> >>A A [cid:EBDB49B6-5B81-4C6D-9625-8B378A2B2B23] >> >>A A "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, >> >>A A stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" >> >>A A Terry W. Himes >> >>A A JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory >> >>A A Dawn Spacecraft Team >> >>A A Rosetta Sequence Team Lead >> >>A A Phone: [19](818) 393-6261 >> >>A A Cell:A A [20](818) 653-8213 >> >>A A Fax:A A [21](818) 393-3147 >> >>A A [4][22]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov >> >>A A From: Terry Himes <[5][23]Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov> >>A A Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:51 AM >>A A To: Larry - Ohio Time <[6][24]Larry@ohiotimecorp.com>, 'Julian Kift' >>A A <[7][25]julian_kift@hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko' >A <[8][26]thedrol@pobox.com>, >>A A "[9][27]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" >>A A <[10][28]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> >>A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? >> >>A A I will look into it. I have a piece of shielding in my office. >A It has >>A A 20 layers. >> >>A A But right now I am crushed building the departure sequences for >A Dawn. >>A A Plus we have Juno JOI >>A A this weekend.A Crazy stuff happening all weekend. >>A A [11][4][29]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/ >>A A Get back to you later... >> >>A A "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, >> >>A A stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" >> >>A A Terry W. Himes >> >>A A JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory >> >>A A Dawn Spacecraft Team >> >>A A Rosetta Sequence Team Lead >> >>A A Phone: [30](818) 393-6261 >> >>A A Cell:A A [31](818) 653-8213 >> >>A A Fax:A A [32](818) 393-3147 >> >>A A [12][33]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov >> >>A A From: DeTomaso <[13][34]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on >A behalf >>A A of Larry - Ohio Time <[14][35]Larry@ohiotimecorp.com> >>A A Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:36 AM >>A A To: 'Julian Kift' <[15][36]julian_kift@hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko' >>A A <[16][37]thedrol@pobox.com>, "[17][38]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" >>A A <[18][39]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> >>A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? >>A A I recall reading a blurb from NASA (ya I read that stuff too)that >A the >>A A gold >>A A color faced insulation was much better then the aluminum color >A faced >>A A insulation. You do see it in all the photos of the space craft. >>A A Let's see if Terry knows about this. >>A A Larry (what happened to the "Pure Gold" car?) - Cleveland >>A A -----Original Message----- >>A A From: DeTomaso >A [[19]mailto:[40]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On >>A A Behalf >>A A Of Julian Kift >>A A Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 10:29 AM >>A A To: Paul Timko; [20][41]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com >>A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? >>A A I second that the cloth and aluminium foils are top rate. >>A A Julian >>A A ________________________________ >>A A From: DeTomaso <[21][42]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on >A behalf >>A A of Paul >>A A Timko <[22][43]thedrol@pobox.com> >>A A Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 7:05 AM >>A A To: [23][44]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com >>A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? >>A A This is a list of stuff a lot or racers use to protect their >A bodywork. >>A A Some of it is pretty expensive, but so is paint... >A [24][5][45]https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=HEATB ARRIER >>A A Paul >>A A #9270 >>A A On 6/30/2016 8:57 AM, Jerry Knotts wrote: >> >>A A 71 Pantera well worn 377 twin turbo motor. >> >>A A After a short trip yesterday I noticed one of my turbos was >A leaking >> >>A A oil.A A small amount on the input (pressure) side.A A quick >A tightening >> >>A A and it was fine.A I did notice a small paint bubble on the deck >>A A directly >> >>A A above the turbo.A There is about 2 inches clearance about the >A turbos >>A A but >> >>A A the deck was really hot to the touch. >> >>A A Question.A I am looking for a product that can be applied (as a >A sheet >>A A or >> >>A A thin blanket) to the underside of the deck above the turbo.A I >A have >>A A some >> >>A A chromed sheet metal shields that I may be able to fit to the >A turbos but >> >>A A would like the real protection of an insulator. >> >>A A Thanks in advance to the "collective", >> >>A A jerry knotts >> >>A A _______________________________________________ >> >>A A Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >> >>A A Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >> >>A A DeTomaso mailing list >> >>A A [25][46]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com >> >>A A [26][6][47]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> >>A A To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, >A etc.) >> >>A A use the links above. >> >>A A Members who post to this list grant license to the list to >A forward any >> >>A A message posted here to all past, current, or future members of >A the >>A A list. >> >>A A They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive >A or >> >>A A approve the archiving of list messages. >> >>A A _______________________________________________ >>A A Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >>A A Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >>A A DeTomaso mailing list >>A A [27][48]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com >>A A [28][7][49]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>A A To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, >A etc.) >>A A use >>A A the links above. >>A A Members who post to this list grant license to the list to >A forward any >>A A message posted here to all past, current, or future members of >A the >>A A list. >>A A They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive >A or >>A A approve >>A A the archiving of list messages. >>A A _______________________________________________ >>A A Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >>A A Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >>A A DeTomaso mailing list >>A A [29][50]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com >>A A [30][8][51]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >>A A To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, >A etc.) >>A A use the links above. >>A A Members who post to this list grant license to the list to >A forward any >>A A message posted here to all past, current, or future members of >A the >>A A list. 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I kind of like the idea of using the Pantera International web site . I have always perused the stuff there daily , occasionally posting and lately it also has seemed like a refreshing refuge that should be enthusiastically supported . - Jim

From: detomasoregistry@gmail.com To: kenn_green@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:25:51 -0700 CC: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!!

Is there a web site out there where we can create our own sub-domains and post project progress on our cars, something not part of POCA? Ken

So something where a story, or data and pics are organized by car and in time order?

Chuck

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From: detomasoregistry@gmail.com To: kenn_green@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:25:51 -0700 CC: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!!

Is there a web site out there where we can create our own sub-domains and post project progress on our cars, something not part of POCA? Ken

So something where a story, or data and pics are organized by car and in time order?

Chuck

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Go you think George could add a new category and let people start threads documenting their progress? I really like this one from Australia: http://panteraaustralia.com/forum/discus/messages/31/124.html?1295789747 From: The DeTomaso Registry Guy <detomasoregistry@gmail.com> To: Cc: 'DeTomaso List' <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 9:40 AM Subject: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details... I had to change this subject to something appropriate. While the registry is naturally the place to store and share car and project data, there are (and should be) other website locations for this material. I have to ask, what happened to all our folders that we pain-stakeingly created on the POCA website? Are they now ONLY available to selected POCA members?  Is all the material actually GONE? That would be really bad if true.  I remember the 'good' POCA volunteers were trying hard to recover that data from an earlier "storage" incident (virus/crash/etc).  I believe their efforts were not fully successful. OK so all people are no longer allowed access to the POCA website, so there is no point re-creating it under POCA control. At the point of suggesting some other web resource other than the registry, The PI Board has a place for such material also, and it has search functions, etc to support users. Chuck Melton (The DeTomaso Registry Guy) I kind of like the idea of using the Pantera International web site . I have always perused the stuff there daily , occasionally posting  and lately it also has seemed like a refreshing refuge that should be enthusiastically supported . - Jim  _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. Go you think George could add a new category and let people start threads documenting their progress? I really like this one from Australia: [1]http://panteraaustralia.com/forum/discus/messages/31/124.html?129578 9747 __________________________________________________________________ From: The DeTomaso Registry Guy <detomasoregistry@gmail.com> To: Cc: 'DeTomaso List' <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 9:40 AM Subject: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details... I had to change this subject to something appropriate. While the registry is naturally the place to store and share car and project data, there are (and should be) other website locations for this material. I have to ask, what happened to all our folders that we pain-stakeingly created on the POCA website? Are they now ONLY available to selected POCA members? Is all the material actually GONE? That would be really bad if true. I remember the 'good' POCA volunteers were trying hard to recover that data from an earlier "storage" incident (virus/crash/etc). I believe their efforts were not fully successful. OK so all people are no longer allowed access to the POCA website, so there is no point re-creating it under POCA control. At the point of suggesting some other web resource other than the registry, The PI Board has a place for such material also, and it has search functions, etc to support users. Chuck Melton (The DeTomaso Registry Guy) I kind of like the idea of using the Pantera International web site . I have always perused the stuff there daily , occasionally posting and lately it also has seemed like a refreshing refuge that should be enthusiastically supported . - Jim _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [2]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [3]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. http://panteraaustralia.com/forum/discus/messages/31/124.html?1295789747 2. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 3. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso

Totally agree with Chuck that the PI board is a great place for Pantera project progress coverage with photos and narrative . Check out some of the ones already there. ( under " Specific Car Photos " ) And lets remember to strengthen and participate in all our Great Pantera institutions such as " The Detomaso Registry, " Pantera Place " , " Banzai Runner Pantera " Etc . The true Leaders and Heroes of the Pantera community have been quietly contributing for years , in many various ways . They do what they do ( which is to quietly contribute ) for the purpose truly contributing and NOT for the purpose of self aggrandizement or to " appear " in the eyes of others to be a " big shot " . Nor do they do it for they purpose of building for themselves a platform to " blow their own horn " , brag, and remind all us minions how superior they are. - Jim Coyne

From: detomasoregistry@gmail.com CC: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 09:40:52 -0700 Subject: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details...

I had to change this subject to something appropriate.

While the registry is naturally the place to store and share car and project data,

there are (and should be) other website locations for this material.

I have to ask, what happened to all our folders that we pain-stakeingly created on the POCA website?

Are they now ONLY available to selected POCA members? Is all the material actually GONE?

That would be really bad if true. I remember the 'good' POCA volunteers were trying hard to recover that data from an earlier "storage" incident (virus/crash/etc). I believe their efforts were not fully successful.

OK so all people are no longer allowed access to the POCA website, so there is no point re-creating it under POCA control.

At the point of suggesting some other web resource other than the registry, The PI Board has a place for such material also, and it has search functions, etc to support users.

Chuck Melton (The DeTomaso Registry Guy)

I kind of like the idea of using the Pantera International web site . I have always perused the stuff there daily , occasionally posting and lately it also has seemed like a refreshing refuge that should be enthusiastically supported . - Jim

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From: detomasoregistry@gmail.com CC: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 09:40:52 -0700 Subject: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details...

I had to change this subject to something appropriate.

While the registry is naturally the place to store and share car and

Totally agree with Chuck that the PI board is a great place for Pantera project progress coverage with photos and narrative . Check out some of the ones already there. ( under " Specific Car Photos " ) And lets remember to strengthen and participate in all our Great Pantera institutions such as " The Detomaso Registry, " Pantera Place " , " Banzai Runner Pantera " Etc . The true Leaders and Heroes of the Pantera community have been quietly contributing for years , in many various ways . They do what they do ( which is to quietly contribute ) for the purpose truly contributing and NOT for the purpose of self aggrandizement or to " appear " in the eyes of others to be a " big shot " . Nor do they do it for they purpose of building for themselves a platform to " blow their own horn " , brag, and remind all us minions how superior they are. - Jim Coyne project data,

there are (and should be) other website locations for this material.

I have to ask, what happened to all our folders that we

on the POCA website?

Are they now ONLY available to selected POCA members? Is all the material actually GONE?

That would be really bad if true. I remember the 'good' POCA volunteers were trying hard to recover that data from an earlier "storage" incident (virus/crash/etc). I believe their efforts were not fully successful.

OK so all people are no longer allowed access to the POCA website, so

it under POCA control.

At the point of suggesting some other web resource other than the registry, The PI Board has a place for such material also, and it has search functions, etc to support users.

Chuck Melton (The DeTomaso Registry Guy)

I kind of like the idea of using the Pantera International web site . I have always perused the stuff there daily , occasionally posting and lately it also has seemed like a refreshing refuge that should be enthusiastically supported . - Jim

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From: detomasoregistry@gmail.com<mailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com> CC: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 09:40:52 -0700 Subject: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details...

I had to change this subject to something appropriate.

While the registry is naturally the place to store and share car and

All these are available and included for free in my Domain hosted with Dreamhost. I've used MediaWiki (Wikipedia is based on this code) and WordPress. Both excellent. The "dotProject" looks very promising. Let me know if any of you would like me to continue to pursue any of these. I don't want to waste everyone's time. I can easily install them for everyone to play with. [cid:40C1C773-4E8C-42EA-92F8-A2FEDEE5F29B] "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 thimes@jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov> 🇺🇸 From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Ken Green via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Reply-To: Ken Green <kenn_green@yahoo.com<mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com>> Date: Saturday, July 2, 2016 11:20 AM To: James coyne <tecnosound@hotmail.com<mailto:tecnosound@hotmail.com>>, The DeTomaso Registry Guy <detomasoregistry@gmail.com<mailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com>> Cc: 'DeTomaso List' <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details... I never knew that forum was there, I guess a different title would help, like "members cars". It looks like it would work. Ken From: James coyne <tecnosound@hotmail.com<mailto:tecnosound@hotmail.com>> To: The DeTomaso Registry Guy <detomasoregistry@gmail.com<mailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com>> Cc: 'DeTomaso List' <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details... Totally agree with Chuck that the PI board is a great place for Pantera project progress coverage with photos and narrative . Check out some of the ones already there. ( under " Specific Car Photos " ) And lets remember to strengthen and participate in all our Great Pantera institutions such as " The Detomaso Registry, " Pantera Place " , " Banzai Runner Pantera " Etc . The true Leaders and Heroes of the Pantera community have been quietly contributing for years , in many various ways . They do what they do ( which is to quietly contribute ) for the purpose truly contributing and NOT for the purpose of self aggrandizement or to " appear " in the eyes of others to be a " big shot " . Nor do they do it for they purpose of building for themselves a platform to " blow their own horn " , brag, and remind all us minions how superior they are. - Jim Coyne project data,

there are (and should be) other website locations for this material.

I have to ask, what happened to all our folders that we

on the POCA website?

Are they now ONLY available to selected POCA members? Is all the material actually GONE?

That would be really bad if true. I remember the 'good' POCA volunteers were trying hard to recover that data from an earlier "storage" incident (virus/crash/etc). I believe their efforts were not fully successful.

OK so all people are no longer allowed access to the POCA website, so

it under POCA control.

At the point of suggesting some other web resource other than the registry, The PI Board has a place for such material also, and it has search functions, etc to support users.

Chuck Melton (The DeTomaso Registry Guy)

I kind of like the idea of using the Pantera International web site . I have always perused the stuff there daily , occasionally posting and lately it also has seemed like a refreshing refuge that should be enthusiastically supported . - Jim

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The "dotProject" looks very promising. Let me know if any of you would like me to continue to pursue any of these. I don't want to waste everyone's time. I can easily install them for everyone to play with. [cid:40C1C773-4E8C-42EA-92F8-A2FEDEE5F29B] "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 [1]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Ken Green via DeTomaso <[3]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Reply-To: Ken Green <[4]kenn_green@yahoo.com> Date: Saturday, July 2, 2016 11:20 AM To: James coyne <[5]tecnosound@hotmail.com>, The DeTomaso Registry Guy <[6]detomasoregistry@gmail.com> Cc: 'DeTomaso List' <[7]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details... I never knew that forum was there, I guess a different title would help, like "members cars". It looks like it would work. Ken From: James coyne <[8]tecnosound@hotmail.com> To: The DeTomaso Registry Guy <[9]detomasoregistry@gmail.com> Cc: 'DeTomaso List' <[10]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details... Totally agree with Chuck that the PI board is a great place for Pantera project progress coverage with photos and narrative . Check out some of the ones already there. ( under " Specific Car Photos " ) And lets remember to strengthen and participate in all our Great Pantera institutions such as " The Detomaso Registry, " Pantera Place " , " Banzai Runner Pantera " Etc . The true Leaders and Heroes of the Pantera community have been quietly contributing for years , in many various ways . They do what they do ( which is to quietly contribute ) for the purpose truly contributing and NOT for the purpose of self aggrandizement or to " appear " in the eyes of others to be a " big shot " . Nor do they do it for they purpose of building for themselves a platform to " blow their own horn " , brag, and remind all us minions how superior they are. - Jim Coyne > From: [11]detomasoregistry@gmail.com > CC: [12]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com > Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 09:40:52 -0700 > Subject: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details... > > I had to change this subject to something appropriate. > > While the registry is naturally the place to store and share car and project data, > > there are (and should be) other website locations for this material. > > I have to ask, what happened to all our folders that we pain-stakeingly created > on the POCA website? > > Are they now ONLY available to selected POCA members? Is all the material actually GONE? > > That would be really bad if true. I remember the 'good' POCA volunteers were trying hard to recover > that data from an earlier "storage" incident (virus/crash/etc). I believe their efforts were not fully successful. > > OK so all people are no longer allowed access to the POCA website, so there is no point re-creating > it under POCA control. > > At the point of suggesting some other web resource other than the registry, The PI Board has a place for such material also, and it > has search functions, etc to support users. > > Chuck Melton > (The DeTomaso Registry Guy) > > > > > I kind of like the idea of using the Pantera International web site . I have always perused the stuff there daily , occasionally > posting and lately it also has seemed like a refreshing refuge that should be enthusiastically supported . - Jim > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > [13]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com > [14]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. 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Terry,     It looks like the PI forums already have a place for this, "Specific Car Photos".  Looks like you can start a topic and add as much as you want for as ling as you want. Ken From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov> To: Ken Green <kenn_green@yahoo.com>; James coyne <tecnosound@hotmail.com>; The DeTomaso Registry Guy <detomasoregistry@gmail.com> Cc: 'DeTomaso List' <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details...   All these are available and included for free in my Domain hosted with   Dreamhost.  I've used MediaWiki (Wikipedia is based on this   code) and WordPress.  Both excellent.  The "dotProject" looks very   promising.   Let me know if any of you would like me to continue to pursue any of   these.  I don't want to waste everyone's time.  I can easily install   them for everyone to play with.   [cid:40C1C773-4E8C-42EA-92F8-A2FEDEE5F29B]   "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,     stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"   Terry W. Himes   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory   Dawn Spacecraft Team   Rosetta Sequence Team Lead   Phone: (818) 393-6261   Cell:    (818) 653-8213   Fax:    (818) 393-3147   [1]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov   From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf   of Ken Green via DeTomaso <[3]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>   Reply-To: Ken Green <[4]kenn_green@yahoo.com>   Date: Saturday, July 2, 2016 11:20 AM   To: James coyne <[5]tecnosound@hotmail.com>, The DeTomaso Registry Guy   <[6]detomasoregistry@gmail.com>   Cc: 'DeTomaso List' <[7]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details...   I never knew that forum was there, I guess a different title would   help, like "members cars".  It looks like it would work.   Ken         From: James coyne <[8]tecnosound@hotmail.com>   To: The DeTomaso Registry Guy <[9]detomasoregistry@gmail.com>   Cc: 'DeTomaso List' <[10]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>   Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 10:40 AM   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details...     Totally agree with Chuck that the PI board is a great place for   Pantera     project progress coverage with photos and narrative . Check out some   of     the ones already there. ( under " Specific Car Photos " )  And lets     remember to strengthen and participate in all our Great Pantera     institutions such as " The Detomaso Registry,  " Pantera Place " , "     Banzai Runner Pantera " Etc .  The true Leaders and Heroes of the     Pantera community have been quietly contributing for years , in many     various ways . They do what they do ( which is to quietly contribute   )     for the purpose truly contributing and NOT for the purpose of self     aggrandizement or to " appear " in the eyes of others to be a " big     shot " . Nor do they do it for they purpose of building for   themselves     a platform to " blow their own horn " , brag, and remind all us   minions     how superior they are.        -  Jim Coyne     > From: [11]detomasoregistry@gmail.com     > CC: [12]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com     > Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 09:40:52 -0700     > Subject: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details...     >     > I had to change this subject to something appropriate.     >     > While the registry is naturally the place to store and share car   and     project data,     >     > there are (and should be) other website locations for this   material.     >     > I have to ask, what happened to all our folders that we     pain-stakeingly created     > on the POCA website?     >     > Are they now ONLY available to selected POCA members? Is all the     material actually GONE?     >     > That would be really bad if true. I remember the 'good' POCA     volunteers were trying hard to recover     > that data from an earlier "storage" incident (virus/crash/etc). I     believe their efforts were not fully successful.     >     > OK so all people are no longer allowed access to the POCA website,   so     there is no point re-creating     > it under POCA control.     >     > At the point of suggesting some other web resource other than the     registry, The PI Board has a place for such material also, and it     > has search functions, etc to support users.     >     > Chuck Melton     > (The DeTomaso Registry Guy)     >     >     >     >     > I kind of like the idea of using the Pantera International web site   .     I have always perused the stuff there daily , occasionally     > posting and lately it also has seemed like a refreshing refuge that     should be enthusiastically supported . - Jim     >     >     > _______________________________________________     >     >     > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA     > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes     > DeTomaso mailing list     > [13]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com     > [14]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso     >     > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe,   etc.)     use the links above.     >     > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward     any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of   the     list. 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Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. Terry, It looks like the PI forums already have a place for this, "Specific Car Photos". Looks like you can start a topic and add as much as you want for as ling as you want. Ken __________________________________________________________________ From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov> To: Ken Green <kenn_green@yahoo.com>; James coyne <tecnosound@hotmail.com>; The DeTomaso Registry Guy <detomasoregistry@gmail.com> Cc: 'DeTomaso List' <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details... All these are available and included for free in my Domain hosted with Dreamhost. I've used MediaWiki (Wikipedia is based on this code) and WordPress. Both excellent. The "dotProject" looks very promising. Let me know if any of you would like me to continue to pursue any of these. I don't want to waste everyone's time. I can easily install them for everyone to play with. [cid:40C1C773-4E8C-42EA-92F8-A2FEDEE5F29B] "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 [1][1]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov From: DeTomaso <[2][2]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Ken Green via DeTomaso <[3][3]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Reply-To: Ken Green <[4][4]kenn_green@yahoo.com> Date: Saturday, July 2, 2016 11:20 AM To: James coyne <[5][5]tecnosound@hotmail.com>, The DeTomaso Registry Guy <[6][6]detomasoregistry@gmail.com> Cc: 'DeTomaso List' <[7][7]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details... I never knew that forum was there, I guess a different title would help, like "members cars". It looks like it would work. Ken From: James coyne <[8][8]tecnosound@hotmail.com> To: The DeTomaso Registry Guy <[9][9]detomasoregistry@gmail.com> Cc: 'DeTomaso List' <[10][10]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details... Totally agree with Chuck that the PI board is a great place for Pantera project progress coverage with photos and narrative . Check out some of the ones already there. ( under " Specific Car Photos " ) And lets remember to strengthen and participate in all our Great Pantera institutions such as " The Detomaso Registry, " Pantera Place " , " Banzai Runner Pantera " Etc . The true Leaders and Heroes of the Pantera community have been quietly contributing for years , in many various ways . They do what they do ( which is to quietly contribute ) for the purpose truly contributing and NOT for the purpose of self aggrandizement or to " appear " in the eyes of others to be a " big shot " . Nor do they do it for they purpose of building for themselves a platform to " blow their own horn " , brag, and remind all us minions how superior they are. - Jim Coyne > From: [11][11]detomasoregistry@gmail.com > CC: [12][12]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com > Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 09:40:52 -0700 > Subject: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details... > > I had to change this subject to something appropriate. > > While the registry is naturally the place to store and share car and project data, > > there are (and should be) other website locations for this material. > > I have to ask, what happened to all our folders that we pain-stakeingly created > on the POCA website? > > Are they now ONLY available to selected POCA members? Is all the material actually GONE? > > That would be really bad if true. I remember the 'good' POCA volunteers were trying hard to recover > that data from an earlier "storage" incident (virus/crash/etc). I believe their efforts were not fully successful. > > OK so all people are no longer allowed access to the POCA website, so there is no point re-creating > it under POCA control. > > At the point of suggesting some other web resource other than the registry, The PI Board has a place for such material also, and it > has search functions, etc to support users. > > Chuck Melton > (The DeTomaso Registry Guy) > > > > > I kind of like the idea of using the Pantera International web site . I have always perused the stuff there daily , occasionally > posting and lately it also has seemed like a refreshing refuge that should be enthusiastically supported . - Jim > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > [13][13]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com > [14][14]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. 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That location (PI Forum - "Specific Car Photos") would be my recommendation - there are a lot of great builds on there already. There is one minor item to consider.... The PI forum typically only lets you add a single photo as an attachment. You would want to establish a place to archive your photos, PhotoBucket, Google Photos, etc., to link them to your thread if you want to put more than one picture per post. It's pretty simple to do, once you figure it out, and if you do it that way, people don't have to be logged in to see them (as they do for the PI Forum "attachments". Chuck -----Original Message----- From: Ken Green [mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 6:47 PM To: Himes, Terry (397C); James coyne; The DeTomaso Registry Guy Cc: 'DeTomaso List' Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details... Terry, It looks like the PI forums already have a place for this, "Specific Car Photos". Looks like you can start a topic and add as much as you want for as ling as you want. Ken From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov> To: Ken Green <kenn_green@yahoo.com>; James coyne <tecnosound@hotmail.com>; The DeTomaso Registry Guy <detomasoregistry@gmail.com> Cc: 'DeTomaso List' <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details... All these are available and included for free in my Domain hosted with Dreamhost. I've used MediaWiki (Wikipedia is based on this code) and WordPress. Both excellent. The "dotProject" looks very promising. Let me know if any of you would like me to continue to pursue any of these. I don't want to waste everyone's time. I can easily install them for everyone to play with. [cid:40C1C773-4E8C-42EA-92F8-A2FEDEE5F29B] "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 [1]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Ken Green via DeTomaso <[3]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Reply-To: Ken Green <[4]kenn_green@yahoo.com> Date: Saturday, July 2, 2016 11:20 AM To: James coyne <[5]tecnosound@hotmail.com>, The DeTomaso Registry Guy <[6]detomasoregistry@gmail.com> Cc: 'DeTomaso List' <[7]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details... I never knew that forum was there, I guess a different title would help, like "members cars". It looks like it would work. Ken From: James coyne <[8]tecnosound@hotmail.com> To: The DeTomaso Registry Guy <[9]detomasoregistry@gmail.com> Cc: 'DeTomaso List' <[10]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details... Totally agree with Chuck that the PI board is a great place for Pantera project progress coverage with photos and narrative . Check out some of the ones already there. ( under " Specific Car Photos " ) And lets remember to strengthen and participate in all our Great Pantera institutions such as " The Detomaso Registry, " Pantera Place " , " Banzai Runner Pantera " Etc . The true Leaders and Heroes of the Pantera community have been quietly contributing for years , in many various ways . They do what they do ( which is to quietly contribute ) for the purpose truly contributing and NOT for the purpose of self aggrandizement or to " appear " in the eyes of others to be a " big shot " . Nor do they do it for they purpose of building for themselves a platform to " blow their own horn " , brag, and remind all us minions how superior they are. - Jim Coyne > From: [11]detomasoregistry@gmail.com > CC: [12]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com > Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 09:40:52 -0700 > Subject: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details... > > I had to change this subject to something appropriate. > > While the registry is naturally the place to store and share car and project data, > > there are (and should be) other website locations for this material. > > I have to ask, what happened to all our folders that we pain-stakeingly created > on the POCA website? > > Are they now ONLY available to selected POCA members? Is all the material actually GONE? > > That would be really bad if true. I remember the 'good' POCA volunteers were trying hard to recover > that data from an earlier "storage" incident (virus/crash/etc). I believe their efforts were not fully successful. > > OK so all people are no longer allowed access to the POCA website, so there is no point re-creating > it under POCA control. > > At the point of suggesting some other web resource other than the registry, The PI Board has a place for such material also, and it > has search functions, etc to support users. > > Chuck Melton > (The DeTomaso Registry Guy) > > > > > I kind of like the idea of using the Pantera International web site . I have always perused the stuff there daily , occasionally > posting and lately it also has seemed like a refreshing refuge that should be enthusiastically supported . - Jim > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > [13]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com > [14]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [15]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [16]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov 2. mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 3. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 4. mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com 5. mailto:tecnosound@hotmail.com 6. mailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com 7. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 8. mailto:tecnosound@hotmail.com 9. mailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com 10. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 11. mailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com 12. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 13. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 14. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 15. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 16. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. 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I LOVE SMUG MUG. It is so easy to create new galleries and populating them is drag and drop. And, as Terry points out, no dumbing down. And all the videos you want? Wow. Check out this picture of the front of a mechanism - http://www.snclocks.com/Mechanisms/Fantastic-Clock-Mechanisms-1/VR-566-6-Mon... - to see it full screen click on the larger picture. You can then scroll through with the arrows that appear on either side. Or, for a more appropriate photo - http://www.snclocks.com/TheRestofourWorld/Autos/1973-Pantera-Detomaso-5332/i... and click on the larger picture - my first view of 5332… Click through the gallery… Stephen Nelson -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Himes, Terry (397C) Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 8:10 AM To: Chuck and Linda Huber <lindahuber@cox.net>; 'Ken Green' <kenn_green@yahoo.com> Cc: 'DeTomaso List' <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details... However, you need to be careful about free sites. The dumb down your photos and there are ads. Nothing is free. For a professional site where you have tons of space, a great interface and they will NOT touch your images you can try smugmug for $30/year. No ads, you can organize your space to fit your taste and upload as may picture as you like in one shot. Just a suggestion. "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 <mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov%3cmailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov> thimes@jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov> 🇺🇸 From: DeTomaso < <mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com%3cmailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Chuck and Linda Huber < <mailto:lindahuber@cox.net%3cmailto:lindahuber@cox.net> lindahuber@cox.net<mailto:lindahuber@cox.net>> Date: Sunday, July 3, 2016 1:26 PM To: 'Ken Green' < <mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com%3cmailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com> kenn_green@yahoo.com<mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com>> Cc: 'DeTomaso List' < <mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com%3cmailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details... That location (PI Forum - "Specific Car Photos") would be my recommendation - there are a lot of great builds on there already. There is one minor item to consider.... The PI forum typically only lets you add a single photo as an attachment. You would want to establish a place to archive your photos, PhotoBucket, Google Photos, etc., to link them to your thread if you want to put more than one picture per post. It's pretty simple to do, once you figure it out, and if you do it that way, people don't have to be logged in to see them (as they do for the PI Forum "attachments". Chuck -----Original Message----- From: Ken Green [ <mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com> mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 6:47 PM To: Himes, Terry (397C); James coyne; The DeTomaso Registry Guy Cc: 'DeTomaso List' Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details... Terry, It looks like the PI forums already have a place for this, "Specific Car Photos". Looks like you can start a topic and add as much as you want for as ling as you want. Ken From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" < <mailto:terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov%3cmailto:terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov> terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov>> To: Ken Green < <mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com%3cmailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com> kenn_green@yahoo.com<mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com>>; James coyne < <mailto:tecnosound@hotmail.com%3cmailto:tecnosound@hotmail.com> tecnosound@hotmail.com<mailto:tecnosound@hotmail.com>>; The DeTomaso Registry Guy < <mailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com%3cmailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com> detomasoregistry@gmail.com<mailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com>> Cc: 'DeTomaso List' < <mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com%3cmailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details... All these are available and included for free in my Domain hosted with Dreamhost. I've used MediaWiki (Wikipedia is based on this code) and WordPress. Both excellent. The "dotProject" looks very promising. Let me know if any of you would like me to continue to pursue any of these. I don't want to waste everyone's time. I can easily install them for everyone to play with. [cid:40C1C773-4E8C-42EA-92F8-A2FEDEE5F29B] "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 [1] <mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov%3cmailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov> thimes@jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov> From: DeTomaso <[2] <mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com%3cmailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Ken Green via DeTomaso <[3] <mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com%3cmailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Reply-To: Ken Green <[4] <mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com%3cmailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com> kenn_green@yahoo.com<mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com>> Date: Saturday, July 2, 2016 11:20 AM To: James coyne <[5] <mailto:tecnosound@hotmail.com%3cmailto:tecnosound@hotmail.com> tecnosound@hotmail.com<mailto:tecnosound@hotmail.com>>, The DeTomaso Registry Guy <[6] <mailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com%3cmailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com> detomasoregistry@gmail.com<mailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com>> Cc: 'DeTomaso List' <[7] <mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com%3cmailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details... I never knew that forum was there, I guess a different title would help, like "members cars". It looks like it would work. Ken From: James coyne <[8] <mailto:tecnosound@hotmail.com%3cmailto:tecnosound@hotmail.com> tecnosound@hotmail.com<mailto:tecnosound@hotmail.com>> To: The DeTomaso Registry Guy <[9] <mailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com%3cmailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com> detomasoregistry@gmail.com<mailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com>> Cc: 'DeTomaso List' <[10] <mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com%3cmailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details... Totally agree with Chuck that the PI board is a great place for Pantera project progress coverage with photos and narrative . Check out some of the ones already there. ( under " Specific Car Photos " ) And lets remember to strengthen and participate in all our Great Pantera institutions such as " The Detomaso Registry, " Pantera Place " , " Banzai Runner Pantera " Etc . The true Leaders and Heroes of the Pantera community have been quietly contributing for years , in many various ways . They do what they do ( which is to quietly contribute ) for the purpose truly contributing and NOT for the purpose of self aggrandizement or to " appear " in the eyes of others to be a " big shot " . Nor do they do it for they purpose of building for themselves a platform to " blow their own horn " , brag, and remind all us minions how superior they are. - Jim Coyne > From: [11] <mailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com%3cmailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com> detomasoregistry@gmail.com<mailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com> > CC: [12] <mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com%3cmailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> > Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 09:40:52 -0700 > Subject: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details... > > I had to change this subject to something appropriate. > > While the registry is naturally the place to store and share car and project data, > > there are (and should be) other website locations for this material. > > I have to ask, what happened to all our folders that we pain-stakeingly created > on the POCA website? > > Are they now ONLY available to selected POCA members? Is all the material actually GONE? > > That would be really bad if true. I remember the 'good' POCA volunteers were trying hard to recover > that data from an earlier "storage" incident (virus/crash/etc). I believe their efforts were not fully successful. > > OK so all people are no longer allowed access to the POCA website, so there is no point re-creating > it under POCA control. > > At the point of suggesting some other web resource other than the registry, The PI Board has a place for such material also, and it > has search functions, etc to support users. > > Chuck Melton > (The DeTomaso Registry Guy) > > > > > I kind of like the idea of using the Pantera International web site . I have always perused the stuff there daily , occasionally > posting and lately it also has seemed like a refreshing refuge that should be enthusiastically supported . - Jim > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > [13] <mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com%3cmailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> > [14] <http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [15] <mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com%3cmailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> [16] <http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. <mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov> mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov 2. <mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 3. <mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 4. <mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com> mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com 5. <mailto:tecnosound@hotmail.com> mailto:tecnosound@hotmail.com 6. <mailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com> mailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com 7. <mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 8. <mailto:tecnosound@hotmail.com> mailto:tecnosound@hotmail.com 9. <mailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com> mailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com 10. <mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 11. <mailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com> mailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com 12. <mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 13. <mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 14. <http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 15. <mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 16. <http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list <mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com%3cmailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> <http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list <mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com%3cmailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> <http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. I LOVE SMUG MUG. It is so easy to create new galleries and populating them is drag and drop. And, as Terry points out, no dumbing down. And all the videos you want? Wow. Check out this picture of the front of a mechanism - [1]http://www.snclocks.com/Mechanisms/Fantastic-Clock-Mechanisms-1/VR-5 66-6-Month-Duration-Granne/i-x8T6NDd - to see it full screen click on the larger picture. You can then scroll through with the arrows that appear on either side. Or, for a more appropriate photo - [2]http://www.snclocks.com/TheRestofourWorld/Autos/1973-Pantera-Detomas o-5332/i-zJ2HNKL and click on the larger picture - my first view of 5332... Click through the gallery... Stephen Nelson -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Himes, Terry (397C) Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 8:10 AM To: Chuck and Linda Huber <lindahuber@cox.net>; 'Ken Green' <kenn_green@yahoo.com> Cc: 'DeTomaso List' <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details... However, you need to be careful about free sites. The dumb down your photos and there are ads. Nothing is free. For a professional site where you have tons of space, a great interface and they will NOT touch your images you can try smugmug for $30/year. No ads, you can organize your space to fit your taste and upload as may picture as you like in one shot. Just a suggestion. "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 [3]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov> 🇺🇸 From: DeTomaso <[4]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@se rver.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Chuck and Linda Huber <[5]lindahuber@cox.net<mailto:lindahuber@cox.net>> Date: Sunday, July 3, 2016 1:26 PM To: 'Ken Green' <[6]kenn_green@yahoo.com<mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com>> Cc: 'DeTomaso List' <[7]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolis t.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details... That location (PI Forum - "Specific Car Photos") would be my recommendation - there are a lot of great builds on there already. There is one minor item to consider.... The PI forum typically only lets you add a single photo as an attachment. You would want to establish a place to archive your photos, PhotoBucket, Google Photos, etc., to link them to your thread if you want to put more than one picture per post. It's pretty simple to do, once you figure it out, and if you do it that way, people don't have to be logged in to see them (as they do for the PI Forum "attachments". Chuck -----Original Message----- From: Ken Green [[8]mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 6:47 PM To: Himes, Terry (397C); James coyne; The DeTomaso Registry Guy Cc: 'DeTomaso List' Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details... Terry, It looks like the PI forums already have a place for this, "Specific Car Photos". Looks like you can start a topic and add as much as you want for as ling as you want. Ken From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <[9]terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov>> To: Ken Green <[10]kenn_green@yahoo.com<mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com>>; James coyne <[11]tecnosound@hotmail.com<mailto:tecnosound@hotmail.com>>; The DeTomaso Registry Guy <[12]detomasoregistry@gmail.com<mailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com>> Cc: 'DeTomaso List' <[13]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasoli st.com>> Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details... All these are available and included for free in my Domain hosted with Dreamhost. I've used MediaWiki (Wikipedia is based on this code) and WordPress. Both excellent. The "dotProject" looks very promising. Let me know if any of you would like me to continue to pursue any of these. I don't want to waste everyone's time. I can easily install them for everyone to play with. [cid:40C1C773-4E8C-42EA-92F8-A2FEDEE5F29B] "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 [1][14]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov> From: DeTomaso <[2][15]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounce s@server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Ken Green via DeTomaso <[3][16]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomas olist.com>> Reply-To: Ken Green <[4][17]kenn_green@yahoo.com<mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com>> Date: Saturday, July 2, 2016 11:20 AM To: James coyne <[5][18]tecnosound@hotmail.com<mailto:tecnosound@hotmail.com>>, The DeTomaso Registry Guy <[6][19]detomasoregistry@gmail.com<mailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com>> Cc: 'DeTomaso List' <[7][20]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomas olist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details... I never knew that forum was there, I guess a different title would help, like "members cars". It looks like it would work. Ken From: James coyne <[8][21]tecnosound@hotmail.com<mailto:tecnosound@hotmail.com>> To: The DeTomaso Registry Guy <[9][22]detomasoregistry@gmail.com<mailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com>> Cc: 'DeTomaso List' <[10][23]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detoma solist.com>> Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details... Totally agree with Chuck that the PI board is a great place for Pantera project progress coverage with photos and narrative . Check out some of the ones already there. ( under " Specific Car Photos " ) And lets remember to strengthen and participate in all our Great Pantera institutions such as " The Detomaso Registry, " Pantera Place " , " Banzai Runner Pantera " Etc . The true Leaders and Heroes of the Pantera community have been quietly contributing for years , in many various ways . They do what they do ( which is to quietly contribute ) for the purpose truly contributing and NOT for the purpose of self aggrandizement or to " appear " in the eyes of others to be a " big shot " . Nor do they do it for they purpose of building for themselves a platform to " blow their own horn " , brag, and remind all us minions how superior they are. - Jim Coyne > From: [11][24]detomasoregistry@gmail.com<mailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com> > CC: [12][25]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomas olist.com> > Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 09:40:52 -0700 > Subject: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details... > > I had to change this subject to something appropriate. > > While the registry is naturally the place to store and share car and project data, > > there are (and should be) other website locations for this material. > > I have to ask, what happened to all our folders that we pain-stakeingly created > on the POCA website? > > Are they now ONLY available to selected POCA members? Is all the material actually GONE? > > That would be really bad if true. I remember the 'good' POCA volunteers were trying hard to recover > that data from an earlier "storage" incident (virus/crash/etc). I believe their efforts were not fully successful. > > OK so all people are no longer allowed access to the POCA website, so there is no point re-creating > it under POCA control. > > At the point of suggesting some other web resource other than the registry, The PI Board has a place for such material also, and it > has search functions, etc to support users. > > Chuck Melton > (The DeTomaso Registry Guy) > > > > > I kind of like the idea of using the Pantera International web site . I have always perused the stuff there daily , occasionally > posting and lately it also has seemed like a refreshing refuge that should be enthusiastically supported . - Jim > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > [13][26]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomas olist.com> > [14][27]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. 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[35]mailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com 7. [36]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 8. [37]mailto:tecnosound@hotmail.com 9. [38]mailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com 10. [39]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 11. [40]mailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com 12. [41]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 13. [42]mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 14. [43]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 15. [44]mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 16. [45]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [46]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolis t.com> [47]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. 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I have been using RideCache for a few months.  The site is basically a place to store ALL information about your car including photos, receipts, maintenance schedules (it will give you reminders), resources, vendors and much more if you want to use it for that.   It is on-line so accessible from any computer and smartphone. You can choose to make whatever you want private or public. RideCache | | | RideCache | | | On Monday, July 4, 2016 9:30 AM, "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:   Sweet!!  I gotta get all my Pantera restoration pics up.  Great job!   "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,     stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"   Terry W. Himes   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory   Dawn Spacecraft Team   Rosetta Sequence Team Lead   Phone: (818) 393-6261   Cell:    (818) 653-8213   Fax:    (818) 393-3147   [1]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov   From: Stephen <[2]steve@snclocks.com>   Date: Monday, July 4, 2016 9:21 AM   To: Terry Himes <[3]Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov>, 'Chuck and Linda Huber'   <[4]lindahuber@cox.net>, 'Ken Green' <[5]kenn_green@yahoo.com>   Cc: 'DeTomaso List' <[6]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>   Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details...   I LOVE SMUG MUG.  It is so easy to create new galleries and populating   them is drag and drop.  And, as Terry points out, no dumbing down.  And   all the videos you want?  Wow.  Check out this picture of the front of   a mechanism -   [7]http://www.snclocks.com/Mechanisms/Fantastic-Clock-Mechanisms-1/VR-5   66-6-Month-Duration-Granne/i-x8T6NDd - to see it full screen click on   the larger picture.  You can then scroll through with the arrows that   appear on either side.  Or, for a more appropriate photo -   [8]http://www.snclocks.com/TheRestofourWorld/Autos/1973-Pantera-Detomas   o-5332/i-zJ2HNKL  and click on the larger picture - my first view of   5332...  Click through the gallery...   Stephen Nelson   -----Original Message-----   From: DeTomaso [[9]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On   Behalf Of Himes, Terry (397C)   Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 8:10 AM   To: Chuck and Linda Huber <[10]lindahuber@cox.net>; 'Ken Green'   <[11]kenn_green@yahoo.com>   Cc: 'DeTomaso List' <[12]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details...   However, you need to be careful about free sites.  The dumb down your   photos and there are ads.  Nothing is free.   For a professional site where you have tons of space, a great interface   and they will NOT touch your images you can try smugmug for $30/year.   No ads, you can organize your space to  fit your taste and upload as   may picture as you like in one shot.  Just a suggestion.   "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,  stupid   enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"   Terry W. Himes   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory   Dawn Spacecraft Team   Rosetta Sequence Team Lead   Phone: (818) 393-6261   Cell:    (818) 653-8213   Fax:    (818) 393-3147   [13]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov>   From: DeTomaso   <[14]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@s   erver.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Chuck and Linda Huber   <[15]lindahuber@cox.net<mailto:lindahuber@cox.net>>   Date: Sunday, July 3, 2016 1:26 PM   To: 'Ken Green' <[16]kenn_green@yahoo.com<mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com>>   Cc: 'DeTomaso List'   <[17]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasoli   st.com>>   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details...   That location (PI Forum - "Specific Car Photos") would be my   recommendation - there are a lot of great builds on there already.   There is one minor item to consider....  The PI forum typically only   lets you add a single photo as an attachment.   You would want to establish a place to archive your photos,   PhotoBucket, Google Photos, etc., to link them to your thread if you   want to put more than one picture per post.   It's pretty simple to do, once you figure it out, and if you do it that   way, people don't have to be logged in to see them (as they do for the   PI Forum "attachments".   Chuck   -----Original Message-----   From: Ken Green [[18]mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com]   Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 6:47 PM   To: Himes, Terry (397C); James coyne; The DeTomaso Registry Guy   Cc: 'DeTomaso List'   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details...   Terry,       It looks like the PI forums already have a place for this,   "Specific Car Photos".  Looks like you can start a topic and add as   much as you want for as ling as you want.   Ken         From: "Himes, Terry (397C)"   <[19]terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov>>   To: Ken Green <[20]kenn_green@yahoo.com<mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com>>;   James coyne   <[21]tecnosound@hotmail.com<mailto:tecnosound@hotmail.com>>; The   DeTomaso Registry Guy   <[22]detomasoregistry@gmail.com<mailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com>>   Cc: 'DeTomaso List'   <[23]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasoli   st.com>>   Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 6:06 PM   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details...     All these are available and included for free in my Domain hosted   with     Dreamhost.  I've used MediaWiki (Wikipedia is based on this     code) and WordPress.  Both excellent.  The "dotProject" looks very     promising.     Let me know if any of you would like me to continue to pursue any of     these.  I don't want to waste everyone's time.  I can easily install     them for everyone to play with.     [cid:40C1C773-4E8C-42EA-92F8-A2FEDEE5F29B]     "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,       stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"     Terry W. Himes     JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory     Dawn Spacecraft Team     Rosetta Sequence Team Lead     Phone: (818) 393-6261     Cell:    (818) 653-8213     Fax:    (818) 393-3147     [1][24]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov>     From: DeTomaso   <[2][25]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounce   s@server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf     of Ken Green via DeTomaso   <[3][26]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomas   olist.com>>     Reply-To: Ken Green   <[4][27]kenn_green@yahoo.com<mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com>>     Date: Saturday, July 2, 2016 11:20 AM     To: James coyne   <[5][28]tecnosound@hotmail.com<mailto:tecnosound@hotmail.com>>, The   DeTomaso Registry Guy   <[6][29]detomasoregistry@gmail.com<mailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com>>     Cc: 'DeTomaso List'   <[7][30]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomas   olist.com>>     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details...     I never knew that forum was there, I guess a different title would     help, like "members cars".  It looks like it would work.     Ken           From: James coyne   <[8][31]tecnosound@hotmail.com<mailto:tecnosound@hotmail.com>>     To: The DeTomaso Registry Guy   <[9][32]detomasoregistry@gmail.com<mailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com>>     Cc: 'DeTomaso List'   <[10][33]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detoma   solist.com>>     Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 10:40 AM     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details...       Totally agree with Chuck that the PI board is a great place for     Pantera       project progress coverage with photos and narrative . Check out   some     of       the ones already there. ( under " Specific Car Photos " )  And lets       remember to strengthen and participate in all our Great Pantera       institutions such as " The Detomaso Registry,  " Pantera Place " ,   "       Banzai Runner Pantera " Etc .  The true Leaders and Heroes of the       Pantera community have been quietly contributing for years , in   many       various ways . They do what they do ( which is to quietly   contribute     )       for the purpose truly contributing and NOT for the purpose of self       aggrandizement or to " appear " in the eyes of others to be a " big       shot " . Nor do they do it for they purpose of building for     themselves       a platform to " blow their own horn " , brag, and remind all us     minions       how superior they are.        -  Jim Coyne       > From:   [11][34]detomasoregistry@gmail.com<mailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com>       > CC:   [12][35]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomas   olist.com>       > Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 09:40:52 -0700       > Subject: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details...       >       > I had to change this subject to something appropriate.       >       > While the registry is naturally the place to store and share car     and       project data,       >       > there are (and should be) other website locations for this     material.       >       > I have to ask, what happened to all our folders that we       pain-stakeingly created       > on the POCA website?       >       > Are they now ONLY available to selected POCA members? Is all the       material actually GONE?       >       > That would be really bad if true. I remember the 'good' POCA       volunteers were trying hard to recover       > that data from an earlier "storage" incident (virus/crash/etc). I       believe their efforts were not fully successful.       >       > OK so all people are no longer allowed access to the POCA   website,     so       there is no point re-creating       > it under POCA control.       >       > At the point of suggesting some other web resource other than the       registry, The PI Board has a place for such material also, and it       > has search functions, etc to support users.       >       > Chuck Melton       > (The DeTomaso Registry Guy)       >       >       >       >       > I kind of like the idea of using the Pantera International web   site     .       I have always perused the stuff there daily , occasionally       > posting and lately it also has seemed like a refreshing refuge   that       should be enthusiastically supported . - Jim       >       >       > _______________________________________________       >       >       > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA       > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes       > DeTomaso mailing list       >   [13][36]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomas   olist.com>       > [14][37]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso       >       > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe,     etc.)       use the links above.       >       > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to   forward       any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of     the       list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an     archive       or approve the archiving of list messages.     _______________________________________________     Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA     Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes     DeTomaso mailing list   [15][38]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomas   olist.com>     [16][39]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso     To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.)     use the links above.     Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward   any     message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the     list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an   archive     or approve the archiving of list messages.   References     1. [40]mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov     2. [41]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com     3. [42]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com     4. [43]mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com     5. [44]mailto:tecnosound@hotmail.com     6. [45]mailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com     7. [46]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com     8. [47]mailto:tecnosound@hotmail.com     9. [48]mailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com     10. [49]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com     11. [50]mailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com     12. [51]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com     13. [52]mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com     14. [53]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso     15. [54]mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com     16. 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Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. I have been using RideCache for a few months. The site is basically a place to store ALL information about your car including photos, receipts, maintenance schedules (it will give you reminders), resources, vendors and much more if you want to use it for that. It is on-line so accessible from any computer and smartphone. You can choose to make whatever you want private or public. [1]RideCache RideCache On Monday, July 4, 2016 9:30 AM, "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: Sweet!! I gotta get all my Pantera restoration pics up. Great job! "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 [1][2]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov From: Stephen <[2][3]steve@snclocks.com> Date: Monday, July 4, 2016 9:21 AM To: Terry Himes <[3][4]Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov>, 'Chuck and Linda Huber' <[4][5]lindahuber@cox.net>, 'Ken Green' <[5][6]kenn_green@yahoo.com> Cc: 'DeTomaso List' <[6][7]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details... I LOVE SMUG MUG. It is so easy to create new galleries and populating them is drag and drop. And, as Terry points out, no dumbing down. And all the videos you want? Wow. Check out this picture of the front of a mechanism - [7][8]http://www.snclocks.com/Mechanisms/Fantastic-Clock-Mechanisms-1/V R-5 66-6-Month-Duration-Granne/i-x8T6NDd - to see it full screen click on the larger picture. You can then scroll through with the arrows that appear on either side. Or, for a more appropriate photo - [8][9]http://www.snclocks.com/TheRestofourWorld/Autos/1973-Pantera-Deto mas o-5332/i-zJ2HNKL and click on the larger picture - my first view of 5332... Click through the gallery... Stephen Nelson -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[9]mailto:[10]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Himes, Terry (397C) Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 8:10 AM To: Chuck and Linda Huber <[10][11]lindahuber@cox.net>; 'Ken Green' <[11][12]kenn_green@yahoo.com> Cc: 'DeTomaso List' <[12][13]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details... However, you need to be careful about free sites. The dumb down your photos and there are ads. Nothing is free. For a professional site where you have tons of space, a great interface and they will NOT touch your images you can try smugmug for $30/year. No ads, you can organize your space to fit your taste and upload as may picture as you like in one shot. Just a suggestion. "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 [13][14]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:[15]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov> From: DeTomaso <[14][16]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[17]detomaso-b ounces@s erver.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Chuck and Linda Huber <[15][18]lindahuber@cox.net<mailto:[19]lindahuber@cox.net>> Date: Sunday, July 3, 2016 1:26 PM To: 'Ken Green' <[16][20]kenn_green@yahoo.com<mailto:[21]kenn_green@yahoo.com>> Cc: 'DeTomaso List' <[17][22]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[23]detomaso@server.de tomasoli st.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details... That location (PI Forum - "Specific Car Photos") would be my recommendation - there are a lot of great builds on there already. There is one minor item to consider.... The PI forum typically only lets you add a single photo as an attachment. You would want to establish a place to archive your photos, PhotoBucket, Google Photos, etc., to link them to your thread if you want to put more than one picture per post. It's pretty simple to do, once you figure it out, and if you do it that way, people don't have to be logged in to see them (as they do for the PI Forum "attachments". Chuck -----Original Message----- From: Ken Green [[18]mailto:[24]kenn_green@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 6:47 PM To: Himes, Terry (397C); James coyne; The DeTomaso Registry Guy Cc: 'DeTomaso List' Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details... Terry, It looks like the PI forums already have a place for this, "Specific Car Photos". Looks like you can start a topic and add as much as you want for as ling as you want. Ken From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <[19][25]terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:[26]terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov>> To: Ken Green <[20][27]kenn_green@yahoo.com<mailto:[28]kenn_green@yahoo.com>>; James coyne <[21][29]tecnosound@hotmail.com<mailto:[30]tecnosound@hotmail.com>>; The DeTomaso Registry Guy <[22][31]detomasoregistry@gmail.com<mailto:[32]detomasoregistry@gmail.c om>> Cc: 'DeTomaso List' <[23][33]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[34]detomaso@server.de tomasoli st.com>> Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details... All these are available and included for free in my Domain hosted with Dreamhost. I've used MediaWiki (Wikipedia is based on this code) and WordPress. Both excellent. The "dotProject" looks very promising. Let me know if any of you would like me to continue to pursue any of these. I don't want to waste everyone's time. I can easily install them for everyone to play with. [cid:40C1C773-4E8C-42EA-92F8-A2FEDEE5F29B] "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 [1][24][35]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:[36]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov> From: DeTomaso <[2][25][37]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bo unce [38]s@server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Ken Green via DeTomaso <[3][26][39]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[40]detomaso@server .detomas olist.com>> Reply-To: Ken Green <[4][27][41]kenn_green@yahoo.com<mailto:[42]kenn_green@yahoo.com>> Date: Saturday, July 2, 2016 11:20 AM To: James coyne <[5][28][43]tecnosound@hotmail.com<mailto:[44]tecnosound@hotmail.com>>, The DeTomaso Registry Guy <[6][29][45]detomasoregistry@gmail.com<mailto:[46]detomasoregistry@gmai l.com>> Cc: 'DeTomaso List' <[7][30][47]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[48]detomaso@server .detomas olist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details... I never knew that forum was there, I guess a different title would help, like "members cars". It looks like it would work. Ken From: James coyne <[8][31][49]tecnosound@hotmail.com<mailto:[50]tecnosound@hotmail.com>> To: The DeTomaso Registry Guy <[9][32][51]detomasoregistry@gmail.com<mailto:[52]detomasoregistry@gmai l.com>> Cc: 'DeTomaso List' <[10][33][53]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[54]detomaso@serve r.detoma solist.com>> Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details... Totally agree with Chuck that the PI board is a great place for Pantera project progress coverage with photos and narrative . Check out some of the ones already there. ( under " Specific Car Photos " ) And lets remember to strengthen and participate in all our Great Pantera institutions such as " The Detomaso Registry, " Pantera Place " , " Banzai Runner Pantera " Etc . The true Leaders and Heroes of the Pantera community have been quietly contributing for years , in many various ways . They do what they do ( which is to quietly contribute ) for the purpose truly contributing and NOT for the purpose of self aggrandizement or to " appear " in the eyes of others to be a " big shot " . Nor do they do it for they purpose of building for themselves a platform to " blow their own horn " , brag, and remind all us minions how superior they are. - Jim Coyne > From: [11][34][55]detomasoregistry@gmail.com<mailto:[56]detomasoregistry@gmai l.com> > CC: [12][35][57]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[58]detomaso@server .detomas olist.com> > Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 09:40:52 -0700 > Subject: [DeTomaso] Places to store and share car details... > > I had to change this subject to something appropriate. > > While the registry is naturally the place to store and share car and project data, > > there are (and should be) other website locations for this material. > > I have to ask, what happened to all our folders that we pain-stakeingly created > on the POCA website? > > Are they now ONLY available to selected POCA members? Is all the material actually GONE? > > That would be really bad if true. I remember the 'good' POCA volunteers were trying hard to recover > that data from an earlier "storage" incident (virus/crash/etc). I believe their efforts were not fully successful. > > OK so all people are no longer allowed access to the POCA website, so there is no point re-creating > it under POCA control. > > At the point of suggesting some other web resource other than the registry, The PI Board has a place for such material also, and it > has search functions, etc to support users. > > Chuck Melton > (The DeTomaso Registry Guy) > > > > > I kind of like the idea of using the Pantera International web site . I have always perused the stuff there daily , occasionally > posting and lately it also has seemed like a refreshing refuge that should be enthusiastically supported . - Jim > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA > Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes > DeTomaso mailing list > [13][36][59]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[60]DeTomaso@server .detomas olist.com> > [14][37][61]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. 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I kind of like the idea of using the Pantera International web site . I have always perused the stuff there daily , occasionally posting and lately it also has seemed like a refreshing refuge that should be enthusiastically supported . - Jim

From: detomasoregistry@gmail.com To: kenn_green@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:25:51 -0700 CC: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!!

Is there a web site out there where we can create our own sub-domains and post project progress on our cars, something not part of POCA? Ken

So something where a story, or data and pics are organized by car and in time order?

Chuck

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From: detomasoregistry@gmail.com To: kenn_green@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:25:51 -0700 CC: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!!

Is there a web site out there where we can create our own sub-domains and post project progress on our cars, something not part of POCA? Ken

So something where a story, or data and pics are organized by car and in time order?

Chuck

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Hi Chuck,      That's the idea.  Several folks on the forum have created personal web sites that are full of information, and you have provided information I have looked at many times.  It would be great if it was easy to anyone to have their own site without having to do the work to create it.  Have someone manage it who creates the individual site for whoever requests one, but after that, each member has access to add and change content when ever they want to. Ken  From: The DeTomaso Registry Guy <detomasoregistry@gmail.com> To: 'Ken Green' <kenn_green@yahoo.com> Cc: DeTomaso List <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! Is there a web site out there where we can create our own sub-domains and post project progress on our cars, something not part of POCA? Ken     So something where a story, or data and pics are organized by car and in time order? Chuck _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. Hi Chuck, That's the idea. Several folks on the forum have created personal web sites that are full of information, and you have provided information I have looked at many times. It would be great if it was easy to anyone to have their own site without having to do the work to create it. Have someone manage it who creates the individual site for whoever requests one, but after that, each member has access to add and change content when ever they want to. Ken __________________________________________________________________ From: The DeTomaso Registry Guy <detomasoregistry@gmail.com> To: 'Ken Green' <kenn_green@yahoo.com> Cc: DeTomaso List <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! Is there a web site out there where we can create our own sub-domains and post project progress on our cars, something not part of POCA? Ken So something where a story, or data and pics are organized by car and in time order? Chuck _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [1]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [2]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 2. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso