Wow, thanks, 3.20 would be REAL fast, once wound up, 3.77 yes. CheersBill MooreCalgary -------- Original message --------From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Date: 2016-08-23 4:52 PM (GMT-07:00) To: Ken Green <kenn_green@yahoo.com> Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler No, that's the 3.77. The intermediate ratio is 4.0. Mike Sent from my iPhone On Aug 23, 2016, at 15:34, Ken Green via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
I think Lloyd Butfoy said the 3.20 (3..22?) ring and pinion were called La Mans gears. Ken __________________________________________________________________
From: Charles McCall <charlesmccall@gmail.com> To: 'Julian Kift' <julian_kift@hotmail.com>; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; 'mark skwarek' <ehpantera@yahoo.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler I know that this has been beaten to death in the past, but seeing the GT/4 car made me think... The Group 4 cars didn't use any sort of rear spoiler. I don't know what speeds they did down the Mulsanne Straight at Le Mans, but assuming they had the Le Mans Gear (it's called that for something, right???) they should have been well into or above the 165mph zone. Is a spoiler really necessary? If you really want to know what the scoop is, you politely listen to the anecdotal evidence and listen to what the real racers do... -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:[1]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Julian Kift Sent: martes, 23 de agosto de 2016 20:27 To: [2]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; mark skwarek Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler Larry stock used a simple yet effective (according to him) spoiler that was attached to the lip of the decklid. He can probably provide more input and better photos. Julian ________________________________ From: mark skwarek <[3]ehpantera@yahoo.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 11:11 AM To: Julian Kift; [4]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler Julian Yes functional. Ill be running up to 165 MPH. Not enough time to do something like Bob's. Mark On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 1:44 PM, Julian Kift <[5]julian_kift@hotmail.com> wrote: Presumably functional rather than just another delta wing.... Bob Benson has probably the most functional one I have seen, that said I have no technical information to back up my statement. Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso <[6]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of mark skwarek via DeTomaso <[7]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 10:11 AM To: DeTomaso List Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler I'm looking for info on rear spoilers. HeightAngle form rear deck. Any pics. would be great. Getting ready for SSCC.Mark _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [8]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [webicon_gray.png] [9]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
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Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. Wow, thanks, 3.20 would be REAL fast, once wound up, 3.77 yes. Cheers Bill Moore Calgary -------- Original message -------- From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Date: 2016-08-23 4:52 PM (GMT-07:00) To: Ken Green <kenn_green@yahoo.com> Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler No, that's the 3.77. The intermediate ratio is 4.0. Mike Sent from my iPhone On Aug 23, 2016, at 15:34, Ken Green via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
I think Lloyd Butfoy said the 3.20 (3..22?) ring and pinion were called La Mans gears. Ken
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From: Charles McCall <charlesmccall@gmail.com> To: 'Julian Kift' <julian_kift@hotmail.com>; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; 'mark skwarek'
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler I know that this has been beaten to death in the past, but seeing
GT/4 car made me think... The Group 4 cars didn't use any sort of rear spoiler. I don't know what speeds they did down the Mulsanne Straight at Le Mans, but assuming they had the Le Mans Gear (it's called that for something, right???) they should have been well into or above the 165mph zone. Is a spoiler really necessary? If you really want to know what the scoop is, you politely listen to the anecdotal evidence and listen to what
real racers do... -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:[1]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Julian Kift Sent: martes, 23 de agosto de 2016 20:27 To: [2]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; mark skwarek Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler Larry stock used a simple yet effective (according to him) spoiler
was attached to the lip of the decklid. He can probably provide more input and better photos. Julian ________________________________ From: mark skwarek <[3]ehpantera@yahoo.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 11:11 AM To: Julian Kift; [4]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler Julian Yes functional. Ill be running up to 165 MPH. Not enough time to do something like Bob's. Mark On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 1:44 PM, Julian Kift <[5]julian_kift@hotmail.com> wrote: Presumably functional rather than just another delta wing.... Bob Benson has probably the most functional one I have seen, that said I have no technical information to back up my statement. Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso <[6]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of mark skwarek via DeTomaso <[7]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 10:11 AM To: DeTomaso List Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler I'm looking for info on rear spoilers. HeightAngle form rear deck. Any pics. would be great. Getting ready for SSCC.Mark _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [8]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [webicon_gray.png] [9]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
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I ran the 3.2:1 and at the Silver State was turning an easy 4400 RPM at 150 MPH, I could take 4th gear to 165, and all this with the stock 5th gear. I then went to the 3.77:1 with a Tall 5th. That was easier on the clutches and still gets you to 200 MPH at 6000 RPM on standard 315/35-17 Hoosiers that were tested to 210 MPH. Larry On 8/23/16, 4:14 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of bill" <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com on behalf of bill@incendium.com> wrote:
Wow, thanks, 3.20 would be REAL fast, once wound up, 3.77 yes.
Cheers
Bill Moore
Calgary
-------- Original message -------- From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Date: 2016-08-23 4:52 PM (GMT-07:00) To: Ken Green <kenn_green@yahoo.com> Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler
No, that's the 3.77. The intermediate ratio is 4.0. Mike Sent from my iPhone On Aug 23, 2016, at 15:34, Ken Green via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
I think Lloyd Butfoy said the 3.20 (3..22?) ring and pinion were called La Mans gears. Ken
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From: Charles McCall <charlesmccall@gmail.com> To: 'Julian Kift' <julian_kift@hotmail.com>; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; 'mark skwarek'
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler I know that this has been beaten to death in the past, but seeing
GT/4 car made me think... The Group 4 cars didn't use any sort of rear spoiler. I don't know what speeds they did down the Mulsanne Straight at Le Mans, but assuming they had the Le Mans Gear (it's called that for something, right???) they should have been well into or above the 165mph zone. Is a spoiler really necessary? If you really want to know what the scoop is, you politely listen to the anecdotal evidence and listen to what
real racers do... -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:[1]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Julian Kift Sent: martes, 23 de agosto de 2016 20:27 To: [2]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; mark skwarek Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler Larry stock used a simple yet effective (according to him) spoiler
was attached to the lip of the decklid. He can probably provide more input and better photos. Julian ________________________________ From: mark skwarek <[3]ehpantera@yahoo.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 11:11 AM To: Julian Kift; [4]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler Julian Yes functional. Ill be running up to 165 MPH. Not enough time to do something like Bob's. Mark On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 1:44 PM, Julian Kift <[5]julian_kift@hotmail.com> wrote: Presumably functional rather than just another delta wing.... Bob Benson has probably the most functional one I have seen, that said I have no technical information to back up my statement. Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso <[6]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of mark skwarek via DeTomaso <[7]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 10:11 AM To: DeTomaso List Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear spoiler I'm looking for info on rear spoilers. HeightAngle form rear deck. Any pics. would be great. Getting ready for SSCC.Mark _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [8]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [webicon_gray.png] [9]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
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