Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!!
Easy 'nuf to do Sent from Earth. On Jul 1, 2016 12:51 PM, James coyne <tecnosound@hotmail.com> wrote: I like that idea ! Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:04:42 +0000 To: coreyjprice@gmail.com; lotus0005@hotmail.com CC: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; knottsj@galstar.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! From: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Is there a web site out there where we can create our own sub-domains and post project progress on our cars, something not part of POCA? Ken From: Corey Price <coreyjprice@gmail.com> To: Bill Lewis <lotus0005@hotmail.com> Cc: "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>; Jerry Knotts <knottsj@galstar.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! Some of us take our cars apart and then life happens... I'm excited though; I will finally have some cash to put toward some much needed bodywork and paint! I'm hoping to have the car done this time next year but don't know where exactly the money will be coming from. Maybe I should start a charity! ;) Corey
On Jul 1, 2016, at 12:40 PM, Bill Lewis <lotus0005@hotmail.com> wrote:
OK, here's my take on NPC!
We have so many interesting guys in the Pantera world, who have such great and diverse jobs, lifestyles, hobbies, etc., and many times their private life bleeds over to something that pertains to Panteras - I don't have a problem with attaching "NPC" in the subject line, and tell us fascinating things.
(Mike flies humongous jets. The guy posted this week about his home with the landing strip. Larry (Ohio) keeps us in stitches. All of the SoCal and NoCal folks live in the Promised land. Michael Shortt has such great talent, as soon as he gets himself saddled up. Terry taking us to Mars. And, what other car club has such a high percent of members who can take their car completely apart and put it back together! And, on and on and on and on....) ---BILL Lewis __________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Jerry Knotts <knottsj@galstar.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 5:43 PM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!!
On 7/1/2016 10:38 AM, Himes, Terry (397C) wrote: Delete Delete. If not a spacenut. First, I am a Spacecraft, Computer Science, Aerospace guy. They keep me far away from the hardware if they can. ;-) Most people today are involved in the Juno JOI happening this weekend. This was what I could glean from the NASA websites. This piece (I have for show when I talk) is Kapton with 20 layers of dacron netting between silver Kapton-fiberglass fabric layers. This cuts down on heat transfer between layers. Since this is only for show, mine is not gold, but most are. The amount of gold used on an entire spacecraft can be measured in ounces. Gold is a uniquely workable metal and the foil is used primarily as radiation shield. It's more about reflection and you only need a very thin amount. Once you leave the protective cocoon of the earths magnetosphere (1m miles out), the radiation is extreme. Plus gold does not corrode. It requires less care and maintenance to keep mission-ready than it's cheaper competitors, silver, copper or aluminum. Astronauts visors are polycarbonate plastic coated with a thin layer of gold. Both IR and visible light can enter our eye's retina equally well but our eyes have visible receptors but not IR ones. If you encounter intense visible light those receptors will warn you to turn away. But with intense IR you would not realize your eyes are being burned. Do you still want to go to Mars? Hmmm? For those interested in Juno this 4th of July; [1]http://www.voanews.com/content/nasa-juno-jupiter/3392909.html [2]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6552 [3]http://eyes.nasa.gov/
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From: Terry Himes <[5]Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov> Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:51 AM To: Larry - Ohio Time <[6]Larry@ohiotimecorp.com>, 'Julian Kift' <[7]julian_kift@hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko' <[8]thedrol@pobox.com>, "[9]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[10]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material?
I will look into it. I have a piece of shielding in my office. It has 20 layers.
But right now I am crushed building the departure sequences for Dawn. Plus we have Juno JOI this weekend. Crazy stuff happening all weekend. [11]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/ Get back to you later...
"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
[12]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov
From: DeTomaso <[13]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Larry - Ohio Time <[14]Larry@ohiotimecorp.com> Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:36 AM To: 'Julian Kift' <[15]julian_kift@hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko' <[16]thedrol@pobox.com>, "[17]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[18]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I recall reading a blurb from NASA (ya I read that stuff too)that
gold color faced insulation was much better then the aluminum color faced insulation. You do see it in all the photos of the space craft. Let's see if Terry knows about this. Larry (what happened to the "Pure Gold" car?) - Cleveland -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[19]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Julian Kift Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 10:29 AM To: Paul Timko; [20]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I second that the cloth and aluminium foils are top rate. Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso <[21]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Paul Timko <[22]thedrol@pobox.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 7:05 AM To: [23]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? This is a list of stuff a lot or racers use to protect their
Some of it is pretty expensive, but so is paint... [24]https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=HEATBARRIER Paul #9270 On 6/30/2016 8:57 AM, Jerry Knotts wrote:
71 Pantera well worn 377 twin turbo motor.
After a short trip yesterday I noticed one of my turbos was leaking
oil. A small amount on the input (pressure) side. A quick tightening
and it was fine. I did notice a small paint bubble on the deck directly
above the turbo. There is about 2 inches clearance about the turbos but
the deck was really hot to the touch.
Question. I am looking for a product that can be applied (as a sheet or
thin blanket) to the underside of the deck above the turbo. I have some
chromed sheet metal shields that I may be able to fit to the turbos but
would like the real protection of an insulator.
Thanks in advance to the "collective",
jerry knotts
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1. [1]http://www.voanews.com/content/nasa-juno-jupiter/3392909.html [2][14B8BE09-2362-4F96-BE58-F086610038BD_w640_r1_s.jpg] [3]NASA Juno Spacecraft, Nearing Jupiter, to Shed Light on ... www.voanews.com<http://www.voanews.com> PASADENA, CALIFORNIA-- After a five-year journey, the spacecraft Juno is nearing its destination, the planet Jupiter, where it will enter
2. [4]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6552 3. [5]http://eyes.nasa.gov/ 4. [6]mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov 5. [7]mailto:Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov 6. [8]mailto:Larry@ohiotimecorp.com 7. [9]mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com 8. [10]mailto:thedrol@pobox.com 9. [11]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 10. [12]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 11. [13]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/ 12. [14]mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov 13. [15]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 14. [16]mailto:Larry@ohiotimecorp.com 15. [17]mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com 16. [18]mailto:thedrol@pobox.com 17. [19]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 18. [20]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 19. [21]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 20. [22]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 21. [23]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 22. [24]mailto:thedrol@pobox.com 23. [25]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 24. [26]https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=HEATBARRIER 25. [27]mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 26. [28]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 27. [29]mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 28. [30]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 29. [31]mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 30. [32]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
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Terry, Thanks for the info. I ordered the aluminum faced insulation. By the way I go to Mars every weekday morning. We just call it the Donut shop locally. Thanks again, jerry knotts the bodywork. the the the polar orbit and start ... list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving
On Jul 1, 2016, at 12:40 PM, Bill Lewis <lotus0005@hotmail.com> wrote:
OK, here's my take on NPC!
We have so many interesting guys in the Pantera world, who have such great and diverse jobs, lifestyles, hobbies, etc., and many times
private life bleeds over to something that pertains to Panteras - I don't have a problem with attaching "NPC" in the subject line, and tell us fascinating things.
(Mike flies humongous jets. The guy posted this week about his home with the landing strip. Larry (Ohio) keeps us in stitches. All of
SoCal and NoCal folks live in the Promised land. Michael Shortt has such great talent, as soon as he gets himself saddled up. Terry taking us to Mars. And, what other car club has such a high percent of members who can take their car completely apart and put it back together! And, on and on and on and on....) ---BILL Lewis __________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Jerry Knotts <knottsj@galstar.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 5:43 PM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!!
On 7/1/2016 10:38 AM, Himes, Terry (397C) wrote: Delete Delete. If not a spacenut. First, I am a Spacecraft, Computer Science, Aerospace guy. They keep me far away from the hardware if they can. ;-) Most people today are involved in the Juno JOI happening this weekend. This was what I could glean from the NASA websites. This piece (I have for show when I talk) is Kapton with 20 layers of dacron netting between silver Kapton-fiberglass fabric layers. This cuts down on heat transfer between layers. Since this is only for show, mine is not gold, but most are. The amount of gold used on an entire spacecraft can be measured in ounces. Gold is a uniquely workable metal and the foil is used primarily as radiation shield. It's more about reflection and you only need a very thin amount. Once you leave the protective cocoon of the earths magnetosphere (1m miles out), the radiation is extreme. Plus gold does not corrode. It requires less care and maintenance to keep mission-ready than it's cheaper competitors, silver, copper or aluminum. Astronauts visors are polycarbonate plastic coated with a thin layer of gold. Both IR and visible light can enter our eye's retina equally well but our eyes have visible receptors but not IR ones. If you encounter intense visible light those receptors will warn you to turn away. But with intense IR you would not realize your eyes are being burned. Do you still want to go to Mars? Hmmm? For those interested in Juno this 4th of July; [1]http://www.voanews.com/content/nasa-juno-jupiter/3392909.html [2]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6552 [3]http://eyes.nasa.gov/
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"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
[4]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov
From: Terry Himes <[5]Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov> Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:51 AM To: Larry - Ohio Time <[6]Larry@ohiotimecorp.com>, 'Julian Kift' <[7]julian_kift@hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko' <[8]thedrol@pobox.com>, "[9]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[10]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material?
I will look into it. I have a piece of shielding in my office. It has 20 layers.
But right now I am crushed building the departure sequences for Dawn. Plus we have Juno JOI this weekend. Crazy stuff happening all weekend. [11]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/ Get back to you later...
"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
[12]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov
From: DeTomaso <[13]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Larry - Ohio Time <[14]Larry@ohiotimecorp.com> Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:36 AM To: 'Julian Kift' <[15]julian_kift@hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko' <[16]thedrol@pobox.com>, "[17]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[18]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I recall reading a blurb from NASA (ya I read that stuff too)that
gold color faced insulation was much better then the aluminum color faced insulation. You do see it in all the photos of the space craft. Let's see if Terry knows about this. Larry (what happened to the "Pure Gold" car?) - Cleveland -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[19]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Julian Kift Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 10:29 AM To: Paul Timko; [20]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I second that the cloth and aluminium foils are top rate. Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso <[21]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Paul Timko <[22]thedrol@pobox.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 7:05 AM To: [23]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? This is a list of stuff a lot or racers use to protect their
Some of it is pretty expensive, but so is paint... [24]https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=HEATBARRIER Paul #9270 On 6/30/2016 8:57 AM, Jerry Knotts wrote:
71 Pantera well worn 377 twin turbo motor.
After a short trip yesterday I noticed one of my turbos was leaking
oil. A small amount on the input (pressure) side. A quick tightening
and it was fine. I did notice a small paint bubble on the deck directly
above the turbo. There is about 2 inches clearance about the turbos but
the deck was really hot to the touch.
Question. I am looking for a product that can be applied (as a sheet or
thin blanket) to the underside of the deck above the turbo. I have some
chromed sheet metal shields that I may be able to fit to the turbos but
would like the real protection of an insulator.
Thanks in advance to the "collective",
jerry knotts
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Terry, Thanks for the info. I ordered the aluminum faced insulation. By the way I go to Mars every weekday morning. We just call it the Donut shop locally. Thanks again, jerry knotts the bodywork. the the the polar orbit and start ...
2. [4]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6552 3. [5]http://eyes.nasa.gov/ 4. [6]mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov 5. [7]mailto:Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov 6. [8]mailto:Larry@ohiotimecorp.com 7. [9]mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com 8. [10]mailto:thedrol@pobox.com 9. [11]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 10. [12]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 11. [13]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/ 12. [14]mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov 13. [15]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 14. [16]mailto:Larry@ohiotimecorp.com 15. [17]mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com 16. [18]mailto:thedrol@pobox.com 17. [19]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 18. [20]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 19. [21]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 20. [22]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 21. [23]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 22. [24]mailto:thedrol@pobox.com 23. [25]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 24. [26]https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=HEATBARRIER 25. [27]mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 26. [28]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 27. [29]mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 28. [30]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 29. [31]mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 30. [32]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
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Easy 'nuf to do Sent from Earth. On Jul 1, 2016 12:51 PM, James coyne <tecnosound@hotmail.com> wrote: I like that idea ! Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:04:42 +0000 To: coreyjprice@gmail.com; lotus0005@hotmail.com CC: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; knottsj@galstar.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! From: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Is there a web site out there where we can create our own sub-domains and post project progress on our cars, something not part of POCA? Ken From: Corey Price <coreyjprice@gmail.com> To: Bill Lewis <lotus0005@hotmail.com> Cc: "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>; Jerry Knotts <knottsj@galstar.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! Some of us take our cars apart and then life happens... I'm excited though; I will finally have some cash to put toward some much needed bodywork and paint! I'm hoping to have the car done this time next year but don't know where exactly the money will be coming from. Maybe I should start a charity! ;) Corey their the the
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That is what I was HOPING for with the POCA site. That it would set up section so each car would be allowed to post its history, including a DISCUSSION of a project, not just a newsletter type blog Joe (25 days to decide to renew POCA) Why not make a post there -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Himes, Terry (397C) Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 16:00 PM To: James coyne Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; Ken Green; Jerry Knotts Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! Easy 'nuf to do Sent from Earth. On Jul 1, 2016 12:51 PM, James coyne <tecnosound@hotmail.com> wrote: I like that idea ! Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:04:42 +0000 To: coreyjprice@gmail.com; lotus0005@hotmail.com CC: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; knottsj@galstar.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! From: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Is there a web site out there where we can create our own sub-domains and post project progress on our cars, something not part of POCA? Ken From: Corey Price <coreyjprice@gmail.com> To: Bill Lewis <lotus0005@hotmail.com> Cc: "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>; Jerry Knotts <knottsj@galstar.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! Some of us take our cars apart and then life happens... I'm excited though; I will finally have some cash to put toward some much needed bodywork and paint! I'm hoping to have the car done this time next year but don't know where exactly the money will be coming from. Maybe I should start a charity! ;) Corey
On Jul 1, 2016, at 12:40 PM, Bill Lewis <lotus0005@hotmail.com> wrote:
OK, here's my take on NPC!
We have so many interesting guys in the Pantera world, who have such great and diverse jobs, lifestyles, hobbies, etc., and many times their private life bleeds over to something that pertains to Panteras - I don't have a problem with attaching "NPC" in the subject line, and tell us fascinating things.
(Mike flies humongous jets. The guy posted this week about his home with the landing strip. Larry (Ohio) keeps us in stitches. All of the SoCal and NoCal folks live in the Promised land. Michael Shortt has such great talent, as soon as he gets himself saddled up. Terry taking us to Mars. And, what other car club has such a high percent of members who can take their car completely apart and put it back together! And, on and on and on and on....) ---BILL Lewis __________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Jerry Knotts <knottsj@galstar.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 5:43 PM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!!
On 7/1/2016 10:38 AM, Himes, Terry (397C) wrote: Delete Delete. If not a spacenut. First, I am a Spacecraft, Computer Science, Aerospace guy. They keep me far away from the hardware if they can. ;-) Most people today are involved in the Juno JOI happening this weekend. This was what I could glean from the NASA websites. This piece (I have for show when I talk) is Kapton with 20 layers of dacron netting between silver Kapton-fiberglass fabric layers. This cuts down on heat transfer between layers. Since this is only for show, mine is not gold, but most are. The amount of gold used on an entire spacecraft can be measured in ounces. Gold is a uniquely workable metal and the foil is used primarily as radiation shield. It's more about reflection and you only need a very thin amount. Once you leave the protective cocoon of the earths magnetosphere (1m miles out), the radiation is extreme. Plus gold does not corrode. It requires less care and maintenance to keep mission-ready than it's cheaper competitors, silver, copper or aluminum. Astronauts visors are polycarbonate plastic coated with a thin layer of gold. Both IR and visible light can enter our eye's retina equally well but our eyes have visible receptors but not IR ones. If you encounter intense visible light those receptors will warn you to turn away. But with intense IR you would not realize your eyes are being burned. Do you still want to go to Mars? Hmmm? For those interested in Juno this 4th of July; [1]http://www.voanews.com/content/nasa-juno-jupiter/3392909.html [2]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6552 [3]http://eyes.nasa.gov/
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Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
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From: Terry Himes <[5]Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov> Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:51 AM To: Larry - Ohio Time <[6]Larry@ohiotimecorp.com>, 'Julian Kift' <[7]julian_kift@hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko' <[8]thedrol@pobox.com>, "[9]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[10]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material?
I will look into it. I have a piece of shielding in my office. It has 20 layers.
But right now I am crushed building the departure sequences for Dawn. Plus we have Juno JOI this weekend. Crazy stuff happening all weekend. [11]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/ Get back to you later...
"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
[12]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov
From: DeTomaso <[13]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Larry - Ohio Time <[14]Larry@ohiotimecorp.com> Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:36 AM To: 'Julian Kift' <[15]julian_kift@hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko' <[16]thedrol@pobox.com>, "[17]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[18]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I recall reading a blurb from NASA (ya I read that stuff too)that
gold color faced insulation was much better then the aluminum color faced insulation. You do see it in all the photos of the space craft. Let's see if Terry knows about this. Larry (what happened to the "Pure Gold" car?) - Cleveland -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[19]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Julian Kift Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 10:29 AM To: Paul Timko; [20]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I second that the cloth and aluminium foils are top rate. Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso <[21]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Paul Timko <[22]thedrol@pobox.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 7:05 AM To: [23]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? This is a list of stuff a lot or racers use to protect their
Some of it is pretty expensive, but so is paint... [24]https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=HEATBARRIER Paul #9270 On 6/30/2016 8:57 AM, Jerry Knotts wrote:
71 Pantera well worn 377 twin turbo motor.
After a short trip yesterday I noticed one of my turbos was leaking
oil. A small amount on the input (pressure) side. A quick tightening
and it was fine. I did notice a small paint bubble on the deck directly
above the turbo. There is about 2 inches clearance about the turbos but
the deck was really hot to the touch.
Question. I am looking for a product that can be applied (as a sheet or
thin blanket) to the underside of the deck above the turbo. I have some
chromed sheet metal shields that I may be able to fit to the turbos but
would like the real protection of an insulator.
Thanks in advance to the "collective",
jerry knotts
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1. [1]http://www.voanews.com/content/nasa-juno-jupiter/3392909.html [2][14B8BE09-2362-4F96-BE58-F086610038BD_w640_r1_s.jpg] [3]NASA Juno Spacecraft, Nearing Jupiter, to Shed Light on ... www.voanews.com<http://www.voanews.com> PASADENA, CALIFORNIA-- After a five-year journey, the spacecraft Juno is nearing its destination, the planet Jupiter, where it will enter
2. [4]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6552 3. [5]http://eyes.nasa.gov/ 4. [6]mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov 5. [7]mailto:Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov 6. [8]mailto:Larry@ohiotimecorp.com 7. [9]mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com 8. [10]mailto:thedrol@pobox.com 9. [11]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 10. [12]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 11. [13]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/ 12. [14]mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov 13. [15]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 14. [16]mailto:Larry@ohiotimecorp.com 15. [17]mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com 16. [18]mailto:thedrol@pobox.com 17. [19]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 18. [20]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 19. [21]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 20. [22]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 21. [23]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 22. [24]mailto:thedrol@pobox.com 23. [25]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 24. [26]https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=HEATBARRIER 25. [27]mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 26. [28]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 27. [29]mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 28. [30]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 29. [31]mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 30. [32]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
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Terry, Thanks for the info. I ordered the aluminum faced insulation. By the way I go to Mars every weekday morning. We just call it the Donut shop locally. Thanks again, jerry knotts the bodywork. the the the polar orbit and start ... the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving
Terry, Is there a web site out there with tools for this? What would make it valuable would be if it is searchable. For example, being able to search for cooling system mods, brake mods, exhaust systems, suspension mod., etc. After all the copyright drama here recently, people may be gun shy regarding creating a web site where others can post content. Ideally, it would not require monitoring, but I don't think a disclaimer regarding posts of third party content removes liability for copyright infringement. I do however think it would be a rare occurrence for a third party to raise an infringement issue, for example, someone posting a third party's copyrighted photo. When a claim like that is made, usually all the site owner has to do is take down the infringing material. Ken From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov> To: James coyne <tecnosound@hotmail.com> Cc: Jerry Knotts <knottsj@galstar.com>; Corey Price <coreyjprice@gmail.com>; Ken Green <kenn_green@yahoo.com>; "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! Easy 'nuf to do Sent from Earth.On Jul 1, 2016 12:51 PM, James coyne <tecnosound@hotmail.com> wrote: I like that idea ! Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:04:42 +0000 To: coreyjprice@gmail.com; lotus0005@hotmail.com CC: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; knottsj@galstar.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! From: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Is there a web site out there where we can create our own sub-domains and post project progress on our cars, something not part of POCA? Ken From: Corey Price <coreyjprice@gmail.com> To: Bill Lewis <lotus0005@hotmail.com> Cc: "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>; Jerry Knotts <knottsj@galstar.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! Some of us take our cars apart and then life happens... I'm excited though; I will finally have some cash to put toward some much needed bodywork and paint! I'm hoping to have the car done this time next year but don't know where exactly the money will be coming from. Maybe I should start a charity! ;) Corey
On Jul 1, 2016, at 12:40 PM, Bill Lewis <lotus0005@hotmail.com> wrote:
OK, here's my take on NPC!
We have so many interesting guys in the Pantera world, who have such great and diverse jobs, lifestyles, hobbies, etc., and many times their private life bleeds over to something that pertains to Panteras - I don't have a problem with attaching "NPC" in the subject line, and tell us fascinating things.
(Mike flies humongous jets. The guy posted this week about his home with the landing strip. Larry (Ohio) keeps us in stitches. All of the SoCal and NoCal folks live in the Promised land. Michael Shortt has such great talent, as soon as he gets himself saddled up. Terry taking us to Mars. And, what other car club has such a high percent of members who can take their car completely apart and put it back together! And, on and on and on and on....) ---BILL Lewis __________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Jerry Knotts <knottsj@galstar.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 5:43 PM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!!
Terry, Thanks for the info. I ordered the aluminum faced insulation. By the way I go to Mars every weekday morning. We just call it the Donut shop locally. Thanks again, jerry knotts
On 7/1/2016 10:38 AM, Himes, Terry (397C) wrote: Delete Delete. If not a spacenut. First, I am a Spacecraft, Computer Science, Aerospace guy. They keep me far away from the hardware if they can. ;-) Most people today are involved in the Juno JOI happening this weekend. This was what I could glean from the NASA websites. This piece (I have for show when I talk) is Kapton with 20 layers of dacron netting between silver Kapton-fiberglass fabric layers. This cuts down on heat transfer between layers. Since this is only for show, mine is not gold, but most are. The amount of gold used on an entire spacecraft can be measured in ounces. Gold is a uniquely workable metal and the foil is used primarily as radiation shield. It's more about reflection and you only need a very thin amount. Once you leave the protective cocoon of the earths magnetosphere (1m miles out), the radiation is extreme. Plus gold does not corrode. It requires less care and maintenance to keep mission-ready than it's cheaper competitors, silver, copper or aluminum. Astronauts visors are polycarbonate plastic coated with a thin layer of gold. Both IR and visible light can enter our eye's retina equally well but our eyes have visible receptors but not IR ones. If you encounter intense visible light those receptors will warn you to turn away. But with intense IR you would not realize your eyes are being burned. Do you still want to go to Mars? Hmmm? For those interested in Juno this 4th of July; [1]http://www.voanews.com/content/nasa-juno-jupiter/3392909.html [2]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6552 [3]http://eyes.nasa.gov/
[cid:EBDB49B6-5B81-4C6D-9625-8B378A2B2B23]
"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
[4]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov
From: Terry Himes <[5]Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov> Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:51 AM To: Larry - Ohio Time <[6]Larry@ohiotimecorp.com>, 'Julian Kift' <[7]julian_kift@hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko' <[8]thedrol@pobox.com>, "[9]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[10]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material?
I will look into it. I have a piece of shielding in my office. It has 20 layers.
But right now I am crushed building the departure sequences for Dawn. Plus we have Juno JOI this weekend. Crazy stuff happening all weekend. [11]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/ Get back to you later...
"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
[12]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov
From: DeTomaso <[13]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Larry - Ohio Time <[14]Larry@ohiotimecorp.com> Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:36 AM To: 'Julian Kift' <[15]julian_kift@hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko' <[16]thedrol@pobox.com>, "[17]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[18]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I recall reading a blurb from NASA (ya I read that stuff too)that the gold color faced insulation was much better then the aluminum color faced insulation. You do see it in all the photos of the space craft. Let's see if Terry knows about this. Larry (what happened to the "Pure Gold" car?) - Cleveland -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[19]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Julian Kift Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 10:29 AM To: Paul Timko; [20]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I second that the cloth and aluminium foils are top rate. Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso <[21]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Paul Timko <[22]thedrol@pobox.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 7:05 AM To: [23]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? This is a list of stuff a lot or racers use to protect their bodywork. Some of it is pretty expensive, but so is paint... [24]https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=HEATBARRIER Paul #9270 On 6/30/2016 8:57 AM, Jerry Knotts wrote:
71 Pantera well worn 377 twin turbo motor.
After a short trip yesterday I noticed one of my turbos was leaking
oil. A small amount on the input (pressure) side. A quick tightening
and it was fine. I did notice a small paint bubble on the deck directly
above the turbo. There is about 2 inches clearance about the turbos but
the deck was really hot to the touch.
Question. I am looking for a product that can be applied (as a sheet or
thin blanket) to the underside of the deck above the turbo. I have some
chromed sheet metal shields that I may be able to fit to the turbos but
would like the real protection of an insulator.
Thanks in advance to the "collective",
jerry knotts
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1. [1]http://www.voanews.com/content/nasa-juno-jupiter/3392909.html [2][14B8BE09-2362-4F96-BE58-F086610038BD_w640_r1_s.jpg] [3]NASA Juno Spacecraft, Nearing Jupiter, to Shed Light on ... http://www.voanews.com/ PASADENA, CALIFORNIA-- After a five-year journey, the spacecraft Juno is nearing its destination, the planet Jupiter, where it will enter polar orbit and start ... 2. [4]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6552 3. [5]http://eyes.nasa.gov/ 4. [6]mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov 5. [7]mailto:Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov 6. [8]mailto:Larry@ohiotimecorp.com 7. [9]mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com 8. [10]mailto:thedrol@pobox.com 9. [11]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 10. [12]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 11. [13]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/ 12. [14]mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov 13. [15]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 14. [16]mailto:Larry@ohiotimecorp.com 15. [17]mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com 16. [18]mailto:thedrol@pobox.com 17. [19]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 18. [20]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 19. [21]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 20. [22]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 21. [23]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 22. [24]mailto:thedrol@pobox.com 23. [25]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 24. [26]https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=HEATBARRIER 25. [27]mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 26. [28]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 27. [29]mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 28. [30]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 29. [31]mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 30. [32]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
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On Jul 1, 2016, at 12:40 PM, Bill Lewis <lotus0005@hotmail.com> wrote:
OK, here's my take on NPC!
We have so many interesting guys in the Pantera world, who have such great and diverse jobs, lifestyles, hobbies, etc., and many times
private life bleeds over to something that pertains to Panteras - I don't have a problem with attaching "NPC" in the subject line, and tell us fascinating things.
(Mike flies humongous jets. The guy posted this week about his home with the landing strip. Larry (Ohio) keeps us in stitches. All of
SoCal and NoCal folks live in the Promised land. Michael Shortt has such great talent, as soon as he gets himself saddled up. Terry taking us to Mars. And, what other car club has such a high percent of members who can take their car completely apart and put it back together! And, on and on and on and on....) ---BILL Lewis __________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Jerry Knotts <knottsj@galstar.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 5:43 PM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!!
On 7/1/2016 10:38 AM, Himes, Terry (397C) wrote: Delete Delete. If not a spacenut. First, I am a Spacecraft, Computer Science, Aerospace guy. They keep me far away from the hardware if they can. ;-) Most people today are involved in the Juno JOI happening this weekend. This was what I could glean from the NASA websites. This piece (I have for show when I talk) is Kapton with 20 layers of dacron netting between silver Kapton-fiberglass fabric layers. This cuts down on heat transfer between layers. Since this is only for show, mine is not gold, but most are. The amount of gold used on an entire spacecraft can be measured in ounces. Gold is a uniquely workable metal and the foil is used primarily as radiation shield. It's more about reflection and you only need a very thin amount. Once you leave the protective cocoon of the earths magnetosphere (1m miles out), the radiation is extreme. Plus gold does not corrode. It requires less care and maintenance to keep mission-ready than it's cheaper competitors, silver, copper or aluminum. Astronauts visors are polycarbonate plastic coated with a thin layer of gold. Both IR and visible light can enter our eye's retina equally well but our eyes have visible receptors but not IR ones. If you encounter intense visible light those receptors will warn you to turn away. But with intense IR you would not realize your eyes are being burned. Do you still want to go to Mars? Hmmm? For those interested in Juno this 4th of July; [1]http://www.voanews.com/content/nasa-juno-jupiter/3392909.html [2]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6552 [3]http://eyes.nasa.gov/
[cid:EBDB49B6-5B81-4C6D-9625-8B378A2B2B23]
"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
[4]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov
From: Terry Himes <[5]Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov> Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:51 AM To: Larry - Ohio Time <[6]Larry@ohiotimecorp.com>, 'Julian Kift' <[7]julian_kift@hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko' <[8]thedrol@pobox.com>, "[9]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[10]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material?
I will look into it. I have a piece of shielding in my office. It has 20 layers.
But right now I am crushed building the departure sequences for Dawn. Plus we have Juno JOI this weekend. Crazy stuff happening all weekend. [11]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/ Get back to you later...
"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
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From: DeTomaso <[13]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Larry - Ohio Time <[14]Larry@ohiotimecorp.com> Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:36 AM To: 'Julian Kift' <[15]julian_kift@hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko' <[16]thedrol@pobox.com>, "[17]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[18]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I recall reading a blurb from NASA (ya I read that stuff too)that
gold color faced insulation was much better then the aluminum color faced insulation. You do see it in all the photos of the space craft. Let's see if Terry knows about this. Larry (what happened to the "Pure Gold" car?) - Cleveland -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[19]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Julian Kift Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 10:29 AM To: Paul Timko; [20]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I second that the cloth and aluminium foils are top rate. Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso <[21]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Paul Timko <[22]thedrol@pobox.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 7:05 AM To: [23]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? This is a list of stuff a lot or racers use to protect their
Some of it is pretty expensive, but so is paint... [24]https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=HEATBARRIER Paul #9270 On 6/30/2016 8:57 AM, Jerry Knotts wrote:
71 Pantera well worn 377 twin turbo motor.
After a short trip yesterday I noticed one of my turbos was leaking
oil. A small amount on the input (pressure) side. A quick tightening
and it was fine. I did notice a small paint bubble on the deck directly
above the turbo. There is about 2 inches clearance about the turbos but
the deck was really hot to the touch.
Question. I am looking for a product that can be applied (as a sheet or
thin blanket) to the underside of the deck above the turbo. I have some
chromed sheet metal shields that I may be able to fit to the turbos but
would like the real protection of an insulator.
Thanks in advance to the "collective",
jerry knotts
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1. [1]http://www.voanews.com/content/nasa-juno-jupiter/3392909.html [2][14B8BE09-2362-4F96-BE58-F086610038BD_w640_r1_s.jpg] [3]NASA Juno Spacecraft, Nearing Jupiter, to Shed Light on ... [1]http://www.voanews.com/ PASADENA, CALIFORNIA-- After a five-year journey, the spacecraft Juno is nearing its destination, the planet Jupiter, where it will enter
Terry, Thanks for the info. I ordered the aluminum faced insulation. By the way I go to Mars every weekday morning. We just call it the Donut shop locally. Thanks again, jerry knotts the bodywork. the the the polar orbit and start ...
2. [4]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6552 3. [5]http://eyes.nasa.gov/ 4. [6]mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov 5. [7]mailto:Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov 6. [8]mailto:Larry@ohiotimecorp.com 7. [9]mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com 8. [10]mailto:thedrol@pobox.com 9. [11]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 10. [12]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 11. [13]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/ 12. [14]mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov 13. [15]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 14. [16]mailto:Larry@ohiotimecorp.com 15. [17]mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com 16. [18]mailto:thedrol@pobox.com 17. [19]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 18. [20]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 19. [21]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 20. [22]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 21. [23]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 22. [24]mailto:thedrol@pobox.com 23. [25]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 24. [26]https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=HEATBARRIER 25. [27]mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 26. [28]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 27. [29]mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 28. [30]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 29. [31]mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 30. [32]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
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Terry, Is there a web site out there with tools for this? What would make it valuable would be if it is searchable. For example, being able to search for cooling system mods, brake mods, exhaust systems, suspension mod., etc. After all the copyright drama here recently, people may be gun shy regarding creating a web site where others can post content. Ideally, it would not require monitoring, but I don't think a disclaimer regarding posts of third party content removes liability for copyright infringement. I do however think it would be a rare occurrence for a third party to raise an infringement issue, for example, someone posting a third party's copyrighted photo. When a claim like that is made, usually all the site owner has to do is take down the infringing material. Ken __________________________________________________________________ From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov> To: James coyne <tecnosound@hotmail.com> Cc: Jerry Knotts <knottsj@galstar.com>; Corey Price <coreyjprice@gmail.com>; Ken Green <kenn_green@yahoo.com>; "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! Easy 'nuf to do Sent from Earth. On Jul 1, 2016 12:51 PM, James coyne <tecnosound@hotmail.com> wrote: I like that idea ! Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:04:42 +0000 To: coreyjprice@gmail.com; lotus0005@hotmail.com CC: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; knottsj@galstar.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! From: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Is there a web site out there where we can create our own sub-domains and post project progress on our cars, something not part of POCA? Ken From: Corey Price <coreyjprice@gmail.com> To: Bill Lewis <lotus0005@hotmail.com> Cc: "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>; Jerry Knotts <knottsj@galstar.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! Some of us take our cars apart and then life happens... I'm excited though; I will finally have some cash to put toward some much needed bodywork and paint! I'm hoping to have the car done this time next year but don't know where exactly the money will be coming from. Maybe I should start a charity! ;) Corey their the the
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Here http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums I still can't get use to using replay to all and even then the list address is not included -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 17:55 PM To: Himes, Terry (397C); James coyne Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; Jerry Knotts Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! Is there a web site out there with tools for this? What would make it valuable would be if it is searchable. For example, being able to search for cooling system mods, brake mods, exhaust systems, suspension mod., etc. After all the copyright drama here recently, people may be gun shy regarding creating a web site where others can post content. Ideally, it would not require monitoring, but I don't think a disclaimer regarding posts of third party content removes liability for copyright infringement. I do however think it would be a rare occurrence for a third party to raise an infringement issue, for example, someone posting a third party's copyrighted photo. When a claim like that is made, usually all the site owner has to do is take down the infringing material. Ken
You can post pics about your car and restoration progress on Chucks detomaso registry-- don't know how searchable that is------Chuck? check out our website at: www.whitehorseranch.com Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 21:55:17 +0000 To: terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov; tecnosound@hotmail.com CC: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; knottsj@galstar.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! From: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Terry, Is there a web site out there with tools for this? What would make it valuable would be if it is searchable. For example, being able to search for cooling system mods, brake mods, exhaust systems, suspension mod., etc. After all the copyright drama here recently, people may be gun shy regarding creating a web site where others can post content. Ideally, it would not require monitoring, but I don't think a disclaimer regarding posts of third party content removes liability for copyright infringement. I do however think it would be a rare occurrence for a third party to raise an infringement issue, for example, someone posting a third party's copyrighted photo. When a claim like that is made, usually all the site owner has to do is take down the infringing material. Ken From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov> To: James coyne <tecnosound@hotmail.com> Cc: Jerry Knotts <knottsj@galstar.com>; Corey Price <coreyjprice@gmail.com>; Ken Green <kenn_green@yahoo.com>; "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! Easy 'nuf to do Sent from Earth.On Jul 1, 2016 12:51 PM, James coyne <tecnosound@hotmail.com> wrote: I like that idea ! Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:04:42 +0000 To: coreyjprice@gmail.com; lotus0005@hotmail.com CC: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; knottsj@galstar.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! From: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Is there a web site out there where we can create our own sub-domains and post project progress on our cars, something not part of POCA? Ken From: Corey Price <coreyjprice@gmail.com> To: Bill Lewis <lotus0005@hotmail.com> Cc: "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>; Jerry Knotts <knottsj@galstar.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! Some of us take our cars apart and then life happens... I'm excited though; I will finally have some cash to put toward some much needed bodywork and paint! I'm hoping to have the car done this time next year but don't know where exactly the money will be coming from. Maybe I should start a charity! ;) Corey
On Jul 1, 2016, at 12:40 PM, Bill Lewis <lotus0005@hotmail.com> wrote:
OK, here's my take on NPC!
We have so many interesting guys in the Pantera world, who have such great and diverse jobs, lifestyles, hobbies, etc., and many times their private life bleeds over to something that pertains to Panteras - I don't have a problem with attaching "NPC" in the subject line, and tell us fascinating things.
(Mike flies humongous jets. The guy posted this week about his home with the landing strip. Larry (Ohio) keeps us in stitches. All of the SoCal and NoCal folks live in the Promised land. Michael Shortt has such great talent, as soon as he gets himself saddled up. Terry taking us to Mars. And, what other car club has such a high percent of members who can take their car completely apart and put it back together! And, on and on and on and on....) ---BILL Lewis __________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Jerry Knotts <knottsj@galstar.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 5:43 PM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!!
On 7/1/2016 10:38 AM, Himes, Terry (397C) wrote: Delete Delete. If not a spacenut. First, I am a Spacecraft, Computer Science, Aerospace guy. They keep me far away from the hardware if they can. ;-) Most people today are involved in the Juno JOI happening this weekend. This was what I could glean from the NASA websites. This piece (I have for show when I talk) is Kapton with 20 layers of dacron netting between silver Kapton-fiberglass fabric layers. This cuts down on heat transfer between layers. Since this is only for show, mine is not gold, but most are. The amount of gold used on an entire spacecraft can be measured in ounces. Gold is a uniquely workable metal and the foil is used primarily as radiation shield. It's more about reflection and you only need a very thin amount. Once you leave the protective cocoon of the earths magnetosphere (1m miles out), the radiation is extreme. Plus gold does not corrode. It requires less care and maintenance to keep mission-ready than it's cheaper competitors, silver, copper or aluminum. Astronauts visors are polycarbonate plastic coated with a thin layer of gold. Both IR and visible light can enter our eye's retina equally well but our eyes have visible receptors but not IR ones. If you encounter intense visible light those receptors will warn you to turn away. But with intense IR you would not realize your eyes are being burned. Do you still want to go to Mars? Hmmm? For those interested in Juno this 4th of July; [1]http://www.voanews.com/content/nasa-juno-jupiter/3392909.html [2]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6552 [3]http://eyes.nasa.gov/
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"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
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[4]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov
From: Terry Himes <[5]Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov> Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:51 AM To: Larry - Ohio Time <[6]Larry@ohiotimecorp.com>, 'Julian Kift' <[7]julian_kift@hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko' <[8]thedrol@pobox.com>, "[9]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[10]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material?
I will look into it. I have a piece of shielding in my office. It has 20 layers.
But right now I am crushed building the departure sequences for Dawn. Plus we have Juno JOI this weekend. Crazy stuff happening all weekend. [11]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/ Get back to you later...
"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
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From: DeTomaso <[13]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Larry - Ohio Time <[14]Larry@ohiotimecorp.com> Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:36 AM To: 'Julian Kift' <[15]julian_kift@hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko' <[16]thedrol@pobox.com>, "[17]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[18]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I recall reading a blurb from NASA (ya I read that stuff too)that
gold color faced insulation was much better then the aluminum color faced insulation. You do see it in all the photos of the space craft. Let's see if Terry knows about this. Larry (what happened to the "Pure Gold" car?) - Cleveland -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[19]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Julian Kift Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 10:29 AM To: Paul Timko; [20]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I second that the cloth and aluminium foils are top rate. Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso <[21]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Paul Timko <[22]thedrol@pobox.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 7:05 AM To: [23]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? This is a list of stuff a lot or racers use to protect their
Some of it is pretty expensive, but so is paint... [24]https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=HEATBARRIER Paul #9270 On 6/30/2016 8:57 AM, Jerry Knotts wrote:
71 Pantera well worn 377 twin turbo motor.
After a short trip yesterday I noticed one of my turbos was leaking
oil. A small amount on the input (pressure) side. A quick tightening
and it was fine. I did notice a small paint bubble on the deck directly
above the turbo. There is about 2 inches clearance about the turbos but
the deck was really hot to the touch.
Question. I am looking for a product that can be applied (as a sheet or
thin blanket) to the underside of the deck above the turbo. I have some
chromed sheet metal shields that I may be able to fit to the turbos but
would like the real protection of an insulator.
Thanks in advance to the "collective",
jerry knotts
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1. [1]http://www.voanews.com/content/nasa-juno-jupiter/3392909.html [2][14B8BE09-2362-4F96-BE58-F086610038BD_w640_r1_s.jpg] [3]NASA Juno Spacecraft, Nearing Jupiter, to Shed Light on ... http://www.voanews.com/ PASADENA, CALIFORNIA-- After a five-year journey, the spacecraft Juno is nearing its destination, the planet Jupiter, where it will enter
2. [4]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6552 3. [5]http://eyes.nasa.gov/ 4. [6]mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov 5. [7]mailto:Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov 6. [8]mailto:Larry@ohiotimecorp.com 7. [9]mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com 8. [10]mailto:thedrol@pobox.com 9. [11]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 10. [12]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 11. [13]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/ 12. [14]mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov 13. [15]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 14. [16]mailto:Larry@ohiotimecorp.com 15. [17]mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com 16. [18]mailto:thedrol@pobox.com 17. [19]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 18. [20]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 19. [21]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 20. [22]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 21. [23]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 22. [24]mailto:thedrol@pobox.com 23. [25]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 24. [26]https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=HEATBARRIER 25. [27]mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 26. [28]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 27. [29]mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 28. [30]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 29. [31]mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 30. [32]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
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Terry, Thanks for the info. I ordered the aluminum faced insulation. By the way I go to Mars every weekday morning. We just call it the Donut shop locally. Thanks again, jerry knotts the bodywork. the the the polar orbit and start ... list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving
_______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. You can post pics about your car and restoration progress on Chucks detomaso registry-- don't know how searchable that is------Chuck? check out our website at: [1]www.whitehorseranch.com Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 21:55:17 +0000 To: terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov; tecnosound@hotmail.com CC: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; knottsj@galstar.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! From: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Terry, Is there a web site out there with tools for this? What would make it valuab le would be if it is searchable. For example, being able to search for cooling system mods, brake mods, exhaust systems, suspension mod., etc. After all the copyright drama here recently, people may be gun shy regarding creating a web site where others can post content. Ideally, it would not requi re monitoring, but I don't think a disclaimer regarding posts of third party con tent removes liability for copyright infringement. I do however think it would be a rare occurrence for a third party to raise an infringement issue, for examp le, someone posting a third party's copyrighted photo. When a claim like that i s made, usually all the site owner has to do is take down the infringing materia l. Ken From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov> To: James coyne <tecnosound@hotmail.com> Cc: Jerry Knotts <knottsj@galstar.com>; Corey Price <coreyjprice@gmail.com>; Ken Green <kenn_green@yahoo.com>; "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso@serv er.detomasolist.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! Easy 'nuf to do Sent from Earth.On Jul 1, 2016 12:51 PM, James coyne <tecnosound@hotmail.com> wr ote: I like that idea ! Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:04:42 +0000 To: coreyjprice@gmail.com; lotus0005@hotmail.com CC: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; knottsj@galstar.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! From: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Is there a web site out there where we can create our own sub-domains and post p roject progress on our cars, something not part of POCA? Ken From: Corey Price <coreyjprice@gmail.com> To: Bill Lewis <lotus0005@hotmail.com> Cc: "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>; Jerry Knotts <knottsj@galstar.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! Some of us take our cars apart and then life happens... I'm excited though; I will finally have some cash to put toward some much needed bodywork and paint! I'm hoping to have the car done this time next year but don 't know where exactly the money will be coming from. Maybe I should start a cha rity! ;) Corey
On Jul 1, 2016, at 12:40 PM, Bill Lewis <lotus0005@hotmail.com> wrote:
OK, here's my take on NPC!
We have so many interesting guys in the Pantera world, who have such great and diverse jobs, lifestyles, hobbies, etc., and many times their private life bleeds over to something that pertains to Panteras - I don't have a problem with attaching "NPC" in the subject line, and tell us fascinating things.
(Mike flies humongous jets. The guy posted this week about his home with the landing strip. Larry (Ohio) keeps us in stitches. All of the SoCal and NoCal folks live in the Promised land. Michael Shortt has such great talent, as soon as he gets himself saddled up. Terry taking us to Mars. And, what other car club has such a high percent of members who can take their car completely apart and put it back together! And, on and on and on and on....) ---BILL Lewis __________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Jerry Knotts <knottsj@galstar.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 5:43 PM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!!
On 7/1/2016 10:38 AM, Himes, Terry (397C) wrote: Delete Delete. If not a spacenut. First, I am a Spacecraft, Computer Science, Aerospace guy. They keep me far away from the hardware if they can. ;-) Most people today are involved in the Juno JOI happening this weekend. This was what I could glean from the NASA websites. This piece (I have for show when I talk) is Kapton with 20 layers of dacron netting between silver Kapton-fiberglass fabric layers. This cuts down on heat transfer between layers. Since this is only for show, mine is not gold, but most are. The amount of gold used on an entire spacecraft can be measured in ounces. Gold is a uniquely workable metal and the foil is used primarily as radiation shield. It's more about reflection and you only need a very thin amount. Once you leave the protective cocoon of the earths magnetosphere (1m miles out), the radiation is extreme. Plus gold does not corrode. It requires less care and maintenance to keep mission-ready than it's cheaper competitors, silver, copper or aluminum. Astronauts visors are polycarbonate plastic coated with a thin layer of gold. Both IR and visible light can enter our eye's retina equally well but our eyes have visible receptors but not IR ones. If you encounter intense visible light those receptors will warn you to turn away. But with intense IR you would not realize your eyes are being burned. Do you still want to go to Mars? Hmmm? For those interested in Juno this 4th of July; [1][2]http://www.voanews.com/content/nasa-juno-jupiter/3392909.html [2][3]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6552 [3][4]http://eyes.nasa.gov/
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Cell: (818) 653-8213
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From: Terry Himes <[5]Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov> Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:51 AM To: Larry - Ohio Time <[6]Larry@ohiotimecorp.com>, 'Julian Kift' <[7]julian_kift@hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko' <[8]thedrol@pobox.com>, "[9]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[10]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material?
I will look into it. I have a piece of shielding in my office. It has 20 layers.
But right now I am crushed building the departure sequences for Dawn. Plus we have Juno JOI this weekend. Crazy stuff happening all weekend. [11][5]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/ Get back to you later...
"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
[12]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov
From: DeTomaso <[13]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Larry - Ohio Time <[14]Larry@ohiotimecorp.com> Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:36 AM To: 'Julian Kift' <[15]julian_kift@hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko' <[16]thedrol@pobox.com>, "[17]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[18]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I recall reading a blurb from NASA (ya I read that stuff too)that
gold color faced insulation was much better then the aluminum color faced insulation. You do see it in all the photos of the space craft. Let's see if Terry knows about this. Larry (what happened to the "Pure Gold" car?) - Cleveland -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[19]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Julian Kift Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 10:29 AM To: Paul Timko; [20]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I second that the cloth and aluminium foils are top rate. Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso <[21]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Paul Timko <[22]thedrol@pobox.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 7:05 AM To: [23]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? This is a list of stuff a lot or racers use to protect their
Some of it is pretty expensive, but so is paint... [24][6]https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=HEATBARRIER Paul #9270 On 6/30/2016 8:57 AM, Jerry Knotts wrote:
71 Pantera well worn 377 twin turbo motor.
After a short trip yesterday I noticed one of my turbos was leaking
oil. A small amount on the input (pressure) side. A quick tightening
and it was fine. I did notice a small paint bubble on the deck directly
above the turbo. There is about 2 inches clearance about the turbos but
the deck was really hot to the touch.
Question. I am looking for a product that can be applied (as a sheet or
thin blanket) to the underside of the deck above the turbo. I have some
chromed sheet metal shields that I may be able to fit to the turbos but
would like the real protection of an insulator.
Thanks in advance to the "collective",
jerry knotts
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2. [4][12]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6552 3. [5][13]http://eyes.nasa.gov/ 4. [6]mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov 5. [7]mailto:Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov 6. [8]mailto:Larry@ohiotimecorp.com 7. [9]mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com 8. [10]mailto:thedrol@pobox.com 9. [11]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 10. [12]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 11. [13][14]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/ 12. [14]mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov 13. [15]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 14. [16]mailto:Larry@ohiotimecorp.com 15. [17]mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com 16. [18]mailto:thedrol@pobox.com 17. [19]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 18. [20]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 19. [21]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 20. [22]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 21. [23]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 22. [24]mailto:thedrol@pobox.com 23. [25]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 24. [26][15]https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=HEATBARRIER 25. [27]mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 26. [28][16]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 27. [29]mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 28. [30][17]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 29. [31]mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 30. [32][18]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
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Terry, Thanks for the info. I ordered the aluminum faced insulation. By the way I go to Mars every weekday morning. We just call it the Donut shop locally. Thanks again, jerry knotts the bodywork. the the the polar orbit and start ... list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving
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Just checked out your website... is there ever any Pantera shindigs at Whitehorse ranch in Landers? Would probably be a fun trip On 7/1/2016 6:11 PM, Peter Menyhart wrote:
You can post pics about your car and restoration progress on Chucks detomaso registry-- don't know how searchable that is------Chuck? check out our website at: [1]www.whitehorseranch.com Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 21:55:17 +0000 To: terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov; tecnosound@hotmail.com CC: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; knottsj@galstar.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! From: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Terry, Is there a web site out there with tools for this? What would make it valuab le would be if it is searchable. For example, being able to search for cooling system mods, brake mods, exhaust systems, suspension mod., etc. After all the copyright drama here recently, people may be gun shy regarding creating a web site where others can post content. Ideally, it would not requi re monitoring, but I don't think a disclaimer regarding posts of third party con tent removes liability for copyright infringement. I do however think it would be a rare occurrence for a third party to raise an infringement issue, for examp le, someone posting a third party's copyrighted photo. When a claim like that i s made, usually all the site owner has to do is take down the infringing materia l. Ken
From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov> To: James coyne <tecnosound@hotmail.com> Cc: Jerry Knotts <knottsj@galstar.com>; Corey Price <coreyjprice@gmail.com>; Ken Green <kenn_green@yahoo.com>; "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso@serv er.detomasolist.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!!
Easy 'nuf to do Sent from Earth.On Jul 1, 2016 12:51 PM, James coyne <tecnosound@hotmail.com> wr ote:
I like that idea !
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:04:42 +0000 To: coreyjprice@gmail.com; lotus0005@hotmail.com CC: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; knottsj@galstar.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! From: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com
Is there a web site out there where we can create our own sub-domains and post p roject progress on our cars, something not part of POCA? Ken
From: Corey Price <coreyjprice@gmail.com> To: Bill Lewis <lotus0005@hotmail.com> Cc: "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>; Jerry Knotts <knottsj@galstar.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!!
Some of us take our cars apart and then life happens... I'm excited though; I will finally have some cash to put toward some much needed bodywork and paint! I'm hoping to have the car done this time next year but don 't know where exactly the money will be coming from. Maybe I should start a cha rity! ;)
Corey
On Jul 1, 2016, at 12:40 PM, Bill Lewis <lotus0005@hotmail.com> wrote:
OK, here's my take on NPC!
We have so many interesting guys in the Pantera world, who have such great and diverse jobs, lifestyles, hobbies, etc., and many times their private life bleeds over to something that pertains to Panteras - I don't have a problem with attaching "NPC" in the subject line, and tell us fascinating things.
(Mike flies humongous jets. The guy posted this week about his home with the landing strip. Larry (Ohio) keeps us in stitches. All of the SoCal and NoCal folks live in the Promised land. Michael Shortt has such great talent, as soon as he gets himself saddled up. Terry taking us to Mars. And, what other car club has such a high percent of members who can take their car completely apart and put it back together! And, on and on and on and on....) ---BILL Lewis __________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Jerry Knotts <knottsj@galstar.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 5:43 PM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!!
On 7/1/2016 10:38 AM, Himes, Terry (397C) wrote: Delete Delete. If not a spacenut. First, I am a Spacecraft, Computer Science, Aerospace guy. They keep me far away from the hardware if they can. ;-) Most people today are involved in the Juno JOI happening this weekend. This was what I could glean from the NASA websites. This piece (I have for show when I talk) is Kapton with 20 layers of dacron netting between silver Kapton-fiberglass fabric layers. This cuts down on heat transfer between layers. Since this is only for show, mine is not gold, but most are. The amount of gold used on an entire spacecraft can be measured in ounces. Gold is a uniquely workable metal and the foil is used primarily as radiation shield. It's more about reflection and you only need a very thin amount. Once you leave the protective cocoon of the earths magnetosphere (1m miles out), the radiation is extreme. Plus gold does not corrode. It requires less care and maintenance to keep mission-ready than it's cheaper competitors, silver, copper or aluminum. Astronauts visors are polycarbonate plastic coated with a thin layer of gold. Both IR and visible light can enter our eye's retina equally well but our eyes have visible receptors but not IR ones. If you encounter intense visible light those receptors will warn you to turn away. But with intense IR you would not realize your eyes are being burned. Do you still want to go to Mars? Hmmm? For those interested in Juno this 4th of July; [1][2]http://www.voanews.com/content/nasa-juno-jupiter/3392909.html [2][3]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6552 [3][4]http://eyes.nasa.gov/
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"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
[4]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov
From: Terry Himes <[5]Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov> Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:51 AM To: Larry - Ohio Time <[6]Larry@ohiotimecorp.com>, 'Julian Kift' <[7]julian_kift@hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko' <[8]thedrol@pobox.com>, "[9]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[10]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material?
I will look into it. I have a piece of shielding in my office. It has 20 layers.
But right now I am crushed building the departure sequences for Dawn. Plus we have Juno JOI this weekend. Crazy stuff happening all weekend. [11][5]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/ Get back to you later...
"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
[12]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov
From: DeTomaso <[13]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Larry - Ohio Time <[14]Larry@ohiotimecorp.com> Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:36 AM To: 'Julian Kift' <[15]julian_kift@hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko' <[16]thedrol@pobox.com>, "[17]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[18]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I recall reading a blurb from NASA (ya I read that stuff too)that
Terry, Thanks for the info. I ordered the aluminum faced insulation. By the way I go to Mars every weekday morning. We just call it the Donut shop locally. Thanks again, jerry knotts the
gold color faced insulation was much better then the aluminum color
faced
insulation. You do see it in all the photos of the space craft. Let's see if Terry knows about this. Larry (what happened to the "Pure Gold" car?) - Cleveland -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso
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Behalf Of Julian Kift Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 10:29 AM To: Paul Timko; [20]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I second that the cloth and aluminium foils are top rate. Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso <[21]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on
behalf
of Paul Timko <[22]thedrol@pobox.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 7:05 AM To: [23]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? This is a list of stuff a lot or racers use to protect their
bodywork.
Some of it is pretty expensive, but so is paint...
[24][6]https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=HEATBARRIER
Paul #9270 On 6/30/2016 8:57 AM, Jerry Knotts wrote:
71 Pantera well worn 377 twin turbo motor.
After a short trip yesterday I noticed one of my turbos was
leaking
oil. A small amount on the input (pressure) side. A quick
tightening
and it was fine. I did notice a small paint bubble on the deck directly
above the turbo. There is about 2 inches clearance about the
turbos
but
the deck was really hot to the touch.
Question. I am looking for a product that can be applied (as a
sheet
or
thin blanket) to the underside of the deck above the turbo. I
have
some
chromed sheet metal shields that I may be able to fit to the
turbos but
would like the real protection of an insulator.
Thanks in advance to the "collective",
jerry knotts
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Just checked out your website... is there ever any Pantera shindigs at Whitehorse ranch in Landers? Would probably be a fun trip On 7/1/2016 6:11 PM, Peter Menyhart wrote: You can post pics about your car and restoration progress on Chucks detomaso registry-- don't know how searchable that is------Chuck? check out our website at: [1]www.whitehorseranch.com Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 21:55:17 +0000 To: [1]terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov; [2]tecnosound@hotmail.com CC: [3]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; [4]knottsj@galstar.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! From: [5]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Terry, Is there a web site out there with tools for this? What would make it valuab le would be if it is searchable. For example, being able to search for cooling system mods, brake mods, exhaust systems, suspension mod., etc. After all the copyright drama here recently, people may be gun shy regarding creating a web site where others can post content. Ideally, it would not requi re monitoring, but I don't think a disclaimer regarding posts of third party con tent removes liability for copyright infringement. I do however think it would be a rare occurrence for a third party to raise an infringement issue, for examp le, someone posting a third party's copyrighted photo. When a claim like that i s made, usually all the site owner has to do is take down the infringing materia l. Ken From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" [6]<terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov> To: James coyne [7]<tecnosound@hotmail.com> Cc: Jerry Knotts [8]<knottsj@galstar.com>; Corey Price [9]<coreyjprice@gmail.com
; Ken Green [10]<kenn_green@yahoo.com>; [11]"detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" [12]<d etomaso@serv er.detomasolist.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!!
Easy 'nuf to do Sent from Earth.On Jul 1, 2016 12:51 PM, James coyne [13]<tecnosound@hotmail.com
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I like that idea ! Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:04:42 +0000 To: [14]coreyjprice@gmail.com; [15]lotus0005@hotmail.com CC: [16]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; [17]knottsj@galstar.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! From: [18]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Is there a web site out there where we can create our own sub-domains and post p roject progress on our cars, something not part of POCA? Ken From: Corey Price [19]<coreyjprice@gmail.com> To: Bill Lewis [20]<lotus0005@hotmail.com> Cc: [21]"detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" [22]<detomaso@server.detomasolist.com
; Jerry Knotts [23]<knottsj@galstar.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!!
Some of us take our cars apart and then life happens... I'm excited though; I will finally have some cash to put toward some much needed bodywork and paint! I'm hoping to have the car done this time next year but don 't know where exactly the money will be coming from. Maybe I should start a cha rity! ;) Corey On Jul 1, 2016, at 12:40 PM, Bill Lewis [24]<lotus0005@hotmail.com> wrote: OK, here's my take on NPC! We have so many interesting guys in the Pantera world, who have such great and diverse jobs, lifestyles, hobbies, etc., and many times their private life bleeds over to something that pertains to Panteras - I don't have a problem with attaching "NPC" in the subject line, and tell us fascinating things. (Mike flies humongous jets. The guy posted this week about his home with the landing strip. Larry (Ohio) keeps us in stitches. All of the SoCal and NoCal folks live in the Promised land. Michael Shortt has such great talent, as soon as he gets himself saddled up. Terry taking us to Mars. And, what other car club has such a high percent of members who can take their car completely apart and put it back together! And, on and on and on and on....) ---BILL Lewis __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso [25]<detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Jerry Knotts [26]<knottsj@galstar.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 5:43 PM To: [27]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! Terry, Thanks for the info. I ordered the aluminum faced insulation. By the way I go to Mars every weekday morning. We just call it the Donut shop locally. Thanks again, jerry knotts On 7/1/2016 10:38 AM, Himes, Terry (397C) wrote: Delete Delete. If not a spacenut. First, I am a Spacecraft, Computer Science, Aerospace guy. They keep me far away from the hardware if they can. ;-) Most people today are involved in the Juno JOI happening this weekend. This was what I could glean from the NASA websites. This piece (I have for show when I talk) is Kapton with 20 layers of dacron netting between silver Kapton-fiberglass fabric layers. This cuts down on heat transfer between layers. Since this is only for show, mine is not gold, but most are. The amount of gold used on an entire spacecraft can be measured in ounces. Gold is a uniquely workable metal and the foil is used primarily as radiation shield. It's more about reflection and you only need a very thin amount. Once you leave the protective cocoon of the earths magnetosphere (1m miles out), the radiation is extreme. Plus gold does not corrode. It requires less care and maintenance to keep mission-ready than it's cheaper competitors, silver, copper or aluminum. Astronauts visors are polycarbonate plastic coated with a thin layer of gold. Both IR and visible light can enter our eye's retina equally well but our eyes have visible receptors but not IR ones. If you encounter intense visible light those receptors will warn you to turn away. But with intense IR you would not realize your eyes are being burned. Do you still want to go to Mars? Hmmm? For those interested in Juno this 4th of July; [1][2][28]http://www.voanews.com/content/nasa-juno-jupiter/3392909.html [2][3][29]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6552 [3][4][30]http://eyes.nasa.gov/ [[31]cid:EBDB49B6-5B81-4C6D-9625-8B378A2B2B23] "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 [[32]4]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov From: Terry Himes [33]<[5]Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov> Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:51 AM To: Larry - Ohio Time [34]<[6]Larry@ohiotimecorp.com>, 'Julian Kift' [35]<[7]julian_kift@hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko' [36]<[8]thedrol@pobox.com>, [37]"[9]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" [38]<[10]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I will look into it. I have a piece of shielding in my office. It has 20 layers. But right now I am crushed building the departure sequences for Dawn. Plus we have Juno JOI this weekend. Crazy stuff happening all weekend. [11][5][39]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/ Get back to you later... "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 [[40]12]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov From: DeTomaso [41]<[13]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Larry - Ohio Time [42]<[14]Larry@ohiotimecorp.com> Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:36 AM To: 'Julian Kift' [43]<[15]julian_kift@hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko' [44]<[16]thedrol@pobox.com>, [45]"[17]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" [46]<[18]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I recall reading a blurb from NASA (ya I read that stuff too)that the gold color faced insulation was much better then the aluminum color faced insulation. You do see it in all the photos of the space craft. Let's see if Terry knows about this. Larry (what happened to the "Pure Gold" car?) - Cleveland -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[19][47]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Julian Kift Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 10:29 AM To: Paul Timko; [[48]20]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I second that the cloth and aluminium foils are top rate. Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso [49]<[21]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Paul Timko [50]<[22]thedrol@pobox.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 7:05 AM To: [[51]23]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? This is a list of stuff a lot or racers use to protect their bodywork. Some of it is pretty expensive, but so is paint... [24][6][52]https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=HEATBARRIER Paul #9270 On 6/30/2016 8:57 AM, Jerry Knotts wrote: 71 Pantera well worn 377 twin turbo motor. After a short trip yesterday I noticed one of my turbos was leaking oil. A small amount on the input (pressure) side. A quick tightening and it was fine. I did notice a small paint bubble on the deck directly above the turbo. There is about 2 inches clearance about the turbos but the deck was really hot to the touch. Question. I am looking for a product that can be applied (as a sheet or thin blanket) to the underside of the deck above the turbo. I have some chromed sheet metal shields that I may be able to fit to the turbos but would like the real protection of an insulator. Thanks in advance to the "collective", jerry knotts _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [[53]25]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [26][7][54]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. 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I know about the great site Chuck maintains, but I'm not sure he wants people to be able to post stuff he doesn't review first. I was thinking of something that would allow each user to post what ever they want, photos and text, and not require someone to review it. Ken From: Peter Menyhart <pmenyhart@msn.com> To: Ken Green -Pantera <kenn_green@yahoo.com>; "Himes, Terry 397C" <terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov>; James coyne <tecnosound@hotmail.com> Cc: Jerry Knotts <knottsj@galstar.com>; pantera forum <detomaso@detomasolist.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 6:11 PM Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! #yiv0731797596 #yiv0731797596 --.yiv0731797596hmmessage P{margin:0px;padding:0px;}#yiv0731797596 body.yiv0731797596hmmessage{font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;}#yiv0731797596 You can post pics about your car and restoration progress on Chucks detomaso registry-- don't know how searchable that is------Chuck? check out our website at: http://www.whitehorseranch.com/ Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 21:55:17 +0000 To: terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov; tecnosound@hotmail.com CC: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; knottsj@galstar.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! From: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Terry, Is there a web site out there with tools for this? What would make it valuable would be if it is searchable. For example, being able to search for cooling system mods, brake mods, exhaust systems, suspension mod., etc. After all the copyright drama here recently, people may be gun shy regarding creating a web site where others can post content. Ideally, it would not require monitoring, but I don't think a disclaimer regarding posts of third party content removes liability for copyright infringement. I do however think it would be a rare occurrence for a third party to raise an infringement issue, for example, someone posting a third party's copyrighted photo. When a claim like that is made, usually all the site owner has to do is take down the infringing material. Ken From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov> To: James coyne <tecnosound@hotmail.com> Cc: Jerry Knotts <knottsj@galstar.com>; Corey Price <coreyjprice@gmail.com>; Ken Green <kenn_green@yahoo.com>; "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! Easy 'nuf to do Sent from Earth.On Jul 1, 2016 12:51 PM, James coyne <tecnosound@hotmail.com> wrote: I like that idea ! Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:04:42 +0000 To: coreyjprice@gmail.com; lotus0005@hotmail.com CC: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; knottsj@galstar.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! From: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Is there a web site out there where we can create our own sub-domains and post project progress on our cars, something not part of POCA? Ken From: Corey Price <coreyjprice@gmail.com> To: Bill Lewis <lotus0005@hotmail.com> Cc: "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>; Jerry Knotts <knottsj@galstar.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! Some of us take our cars apart and then life happens... I'm excited though; I will finally have some cash to put toward some much needed bodywork and paint! I'm hoping to have the car done this time next year but don't know where exactly the money will be coming from. Maybe I should start a charity! ;) Corey
On Jul 1, 2016, at 12:40 PM, Bill Lewis <lotus0005@hotmail.com> wrote:
OK, here's my take on NPC!
We have so many interesting guys in the Pantera world, who have such great and diverse jobs, lifestyles, hobbies, etc., and many times their private life bleeds over to something that pertains to Panteras - I don't have a problem with attaching "NPC" in the subject line, and tell us fascinating things.
(Mike flies humongous jets. The guy posted this week about his home with the landing strip. Larry (Ohio) keeps us in stitches. All of the SoCal and NoCal folks live in the Promised land. Michael Shortt has such great talent, as soon as he gets himself saddled up. Terry taking us to Mars. And, what other car club has such a high percent of members who can take their car completely apart and put it back together! And, on and on and on and on....) ---BILL Lewis __________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Jerry Knotts <knottsj@galstar.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 5:43 PM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!!
Terry, Thanks for the info. I ordered the aluminum faced insulation. By the way I go to Mars every weekday morning. We just call it the Donut shop locally. Thanks again, jerry knotts
On 7/1/2016 10:38 AM, Himes, Terry (397C) wrote: Delete Delete. If not a spacenut. First, I am a Spacecraft, Computer Science, Aerospace guy. They keep me far away from the hardware if they can. ;-) Most people today are involved in the Juno JOI happening this weekend. This was what I could glean from the NASA websites. This piece (I have for show when I talk) is Kapton with 20 layers of dacron netting between silver Kapton-fiberglass fabric layers. This cuts down on heat transfer between layers. Since this is only for show, mine is not gold, but most are. The amount of gold used on an entire spacecraft can be measured in ounces. Gold is a uniquely workable metal and the foil is used primarily as radiation shield. It's more about reflection and you only need a very thin amount. Once you leave the protective cocoon of the earths magnetosphere (1m miles out), the radiation is extreme. Plus gold does not corrode. It requires less care and maintenance to keep mission-ready than it's cheaper competitors, silver, copper or aluminum. Astronauts visors are polycarbonate plastic coated with a thin layer of gold. Both IR and visible light can enter our eye's retina equally well but our eyes have visible receptors but not IR ones. If you encounter intense visible light those receptors will warn you to turn away. But with intense IR you would not realize your eyes are being burned. Do you still want to go to Mars? Hmmm? For those interested in Juno this 4th of July; [1]http://www.voanews.com/content/nasa-juno-jupiter/3392909.html [2]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6552 [3]http://eyes.nasa.gov/
[cid:EBDB49B6-5B81-4C6D-9625-8B378A2B2B23]
"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
[4]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov
From: Terry Himes <[5]Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov> Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:51 AM To: Larry - Ohio Time <[6]Larry@ohiotimecorp.com>, 'Julian Kift' <[7]julian_kift@hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko' <[8]thedrol@pobox.com>, "[9]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[10]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material?
I will look into it. I have a piece of shielding in my office. It has 20 layers.
But right now I am crushed building the departure sequences for Dawn. Plus we have Juno JOI this weekend. Crazy stuff happening all weekend. [11]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/ Get back to you later...
"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
[12]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov
From: DeTomaso <[13]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Larry - Ohio Time <[14]Larry@ohiotimecorp.com> Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:36 AM To: 'Julian Kift' <[15]julian_kift@hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko' <[16]thedrol@pobox.com>, "[17]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[18]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I recall reading a blurb from NASA (ya I read that stuff too)that the gold color faced insulation was much better then the aluminum color faced insulation. You do see it in all the photos of the space craft. Let's see if Terry knows about this. Larry (what happened to the "Pure Gold" car?) - Cleveland -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[19]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Julian Kift Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 10:29 AM To: Paul Timko; [20]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I second that the cloth and aluminium foils are top rate. Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso <[21]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Paul Timko <[22]thedrol@pobox.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 7:05 AM To: [23]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? This is a list of stuff a lot or racers use to protect their bodywork. Some of it is pretty expensive, but so is paint... [24]https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=HEATBARRIER Paul #9270 On 6/30/2016 8:57 AM, Jerry Knotts wrote:
71 Pantera well worn 377 twin turbo motor.
After a short trip yesterday I noticed one of my turbos was leaking
oil. A small amount on the input (pressure) side. A quick tightening
and it was fine. I did notice a small paint bubble on the deck directly
above the turbo. There is about 2 inches clearance about the turbos but
the deck was really hot to the touch.
Question. I am looking for a product that can be applied (as a sheet or
thin blanket) to the underside of the deck above the turbo. I have some
chromed sheet metal shields that I may be able to fit to the turbos but
would like the real protection of an insulator.
Thanks in advance to the "collective",
jerry knotts
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_______________________________________________Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCAPosted emails must not exceed 1.5 MegabytesDeTomaso mailing listDeTomaso@server.detomasolist.comhttp://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomasoTo manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above.Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. I know about the great site Chuck maintains, but I'm not sure he wants people to be able to post stuff he doesn't review first. I was thinking of something that would allow each user to post what ever they want, photos and text, and not require someone to review it. Ken __________________________________________________________________ From: Peter Menyhart <pmenyhart@msn.com> To: Ken Green -Pantera <kenn_green@yahoo.com>; "Himes, Terry 397C" <terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov>; James coyne <tecnosound@hotmail.com> Cc: Jerry Knotts <knottsj@galstar.com>; pantera forum <detomaso@detomasolist.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 6:11 PM Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! You can post pics about your car and restoration progress on Chucks detomaso registry-- don't know how searchable that is------Chuck? check out our website at: [1]http://www.whitehorseranch.com/ Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 21:55:17 +0000 To: terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov; tecnosound@hotmail.com CC: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; knottsj@galstar.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! From: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Terry, Is there a web site out there with tools for this? What would make it valuab le would be if it is searchable. For example, being able to search for cooling system mods, brake mods, exhaust systems, suspension mod., etc. After all the copyright drama here recently, people may be gun shy regarding creating a web site where others can post content. Ideally, it would not requi re monitoring, but I don't think a disclaimer regarding posts of third party con tent removes liability for copyright infringement. I do however think it would be a rare occurrence for a third party to raise an infringement issue, for examp le, someone posting a third party's copyrighted photo. When a claim like that i s made, usually all the site owner has to do is take down the infringing materia l. Ken From: "Himes, Terry (397C)" <terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov> To: James coyne <tecnosound@hotmail.com> Cc: Jerry Knotts <knottsj@galstar.com>; Corey Price <coreyjprice@gmail.com>; Ken Green <kenn_green@yahoo.com>; "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso@serv er.detomasolist.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! Easy 'nuf to do Sent from Earth.On Jul 1, 2016 12:51 PM, James coyne <tecnosound@hotmail.com> wr ote: I like that idea ! Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:04:42 +0000 To: coreyjprice@gmail.com; lotus0005@hotmail.com CC: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; knottsj@galstar.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! From: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Is there a web site out there where we can create our own sub-domains and post p roject progress on our cars, something not part of POCA? Ken From: Corey Price <coreyjprice@gmail.com> To: Bill Lewis <lotus0005@hotmail.com> Cc: "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>; Jerry Knotts <knottsj@galstar.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!! Some of us take our cars apart and then life happens... I'm excited though; I will finally have some cash to put toward some much needed bodywork and paint! I'm hoping to have the car done this time next year but don 't know where exactly the money will be coming from. Maybe I should start a cha rity! ;) Corey
On Jul 1, 2016, at 12:40 PM, Bill Lewis <lotus0005@hotmail.com> wrote:
OK, here's my take on NPC!
We have so many interesting guys in the Pantera world, who have such great and diverse jobs, lifestyles, hobbies, etc., and many times their private life bleeds over to something that pertains to Panteras - I don't have a problem with attaching "NPC" in the subject line, and tell us fascinating things.
(Mike flies humongous jets. The guy posted this week about his home with the landing strip. Larry (Ohio) keeps us in stitches. All of the SoCal and NoCal folks live in the Promised land. Michael Shortt has such great talent, as soon as he gets himself saddled up. Terry taking us to Mars. And, what other car club has such a high percent of members who can take their car completely apart and put it back together! And, on and on and on and on....) ---BILL Lewis __________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Jerry Knotts <knottsj@galstar.com> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 5:43 PM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? Absolutely NPC!!
On 7/1/2016 10:38 AM, Himes, Terry (397C) wrote: Delete Delete. If not a spacenut. First, I am a Spacecraft, Computer Science, Aerospace guy. They keep me far away from the hardware if they can. ;-) Most people today are involved in the Juno JOI happening this weekend. This was what I could glean from the NASA websites. This piece (I have for show when I talk) is Kapton with 20 layers of dacron netting between silver Kapton-fiberglass fabric layers. This cuts down on heat transfer between layers. Since this is only for show, mine is not gold, but most are. The amount of gold used on an entire spacecraft can be measured in ounces. Gold is a uniquely workable metal and the foil is used primarily as radiation shield. It's more about reflection and you only need a very thin amount. Once you leave the protective cocoon of the earths magnetosphere (1m miles out), the radiation is extreme. Plus gold does not corrode. It requires less care and maintenance to keep mission-ready than it's cheaper competitors, silver, copper or aluminum. Astronauts visors are polycarbonate plastic coated with a thin layer of gold. Both IR and visible light can enter our eye's retina equally well but our eyes have visible receptors but not IR ones. If you encounter intense visible light those receptors will warn you to turn away. But with intense IR you would not realize your eyes are being burned. Do you still want to go to Mars? Hmmm? For those interested in Juno this 4th of July; [1][2]http://www.voanews.com/content/nasa-juno-jupiter/3392909.html [2][3]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6552 [3][4]http://eyes.nasa.gov/
[cid:EBDB49B6-5B81-4C6D-9625-8B378A2B2B23]
"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
[4]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov
From: Terry Himes <[5]Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov> Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:51 AM To: Larry - Ohio Time <[6]Larry@ohiotimecorp.com>, 'Julian Kift' <[7]julian_kift@hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko' <[8]thedrol@pobox.com>, "[9]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[10]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material?
I will look into it. I have a piece of shielding in my office. It has 20 layers.
But right now I am crushed building the departure sequences for Dawn. Plus we have Juno JOI this weekend. Crazy stuff happening all weekend. [11][5]http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/ Get back to you later...
"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
Phone: (818) 393-6261
Cell: (818) 653-8213
Fax: (818) 393-3147
[12]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov
From: DeTomaso <[13]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Larry - Ohio Time <[14]Larry@ohiotimecorp.com> Date: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:36 AM To: 'Julian Kift' <[15]julian_kift@hotmail.com>, 'Paul Timko' <[16]thedrol@pobox.com>, "[17]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[18]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I recall reading a blurb from NASA (ya I read that stuff too)that
gold color faced insulation was much better then the aluminum color faced insulation. You do see it in all the photos of the space craft. Let's see if Terry knows about this. Larry (what happened to the "Pure Gold" car?) - Cleveland -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[19]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Julian Kift Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 10:29 AM To: Paul Timko; [20]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? I second that the cloth and aluminium foils are top rate. Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso <[21]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Paul Timko <[22]thedrol@pobox.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 7:05 AM To: [23]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Insulation material? This is a list of stuff a lot or racers use to protect their
Some of it is pretty expensive, but so is paint... [24][6]https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=HEATBARRIER Paul #9270 On 6/30/2016 8:57 AM, Jerry Knotts wrote:
71 Pantera well worn 377 twin turbo motor.
After a short trip yesterday I noticed one of my turbos was leaking
oil. A small amount on the input (pressure) side. A quick tightening
and it was fine. I did notice a small paint bubble on the deck directly
above the turbo. There is about 2 inches clearance about the turbos but
the deck was really hot to the touch.
Question. I am looking for a product that can be applied (as a sheet or
thin blanket) to the underside of the deck above the turbo. I have some
chromed sheet metal shields that I may be able to fit to the turbos but
would like the real protection of an insulator.
Thanks in advance to the "collective",
jerry knotts
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