Joe, Thank you very much for the pictures and additional info. I am fortunate to have also received similar info in a PM from ken MacArthur. Now I know what I'm looking for and will get one of the Robert Shaw setups. I appreciate your help. --Ed L -----Original Message----- From: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. [mailto:byrdjf@embarqmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 1:51 PM To: 'Ed Lyerly'; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Thermostat .... visual differenced between Cleveland and. Windsor thermostats Here is a photo of the Marlin Jack's thermostat and restrictor. Notice the copper "hat" on the end. Also is a write up I did to compare the bypassing versus radiator flow between the proper thermostat and one that was sold by MS . A pic of the MS wrong stat in the packaging Joe in NC -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Ed Lyerly Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 12:02 PM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Thermostat .... visual differenced between Cleveland and. Windsor thermostats I have read several times of Pantera owners having overheating problems that were at least partially caused by using a Windsor thermostat in the Cleveland Pantera engine. Does anyone have a picture they could share which would allow a visual identification of the differences in these different thermostats? Thanks, --Ed L

My t'stat and restrictor plate came from Marlin Jack,very professional service. Sent from Michael's iPhone

On 18 Sep 2016, at 19:32, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf@embarqmail.com> wrote:

I THINK the only source would be from Marlin Jack

-----Original Message----- From: Ed Lyerly [mailto:ed.lyerly@nctv.com] Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 14:12 PM To: 'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.'; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Thermostat .... visual differenced between Cleveland and. Windsor thermostats

Joe,

Thank you very much for the pictures and additional info. I am fortunate to have also received similar info in a PM from ken MacArthur.

Now I know what I'm looking for and will get one of the Robert Shaw setups. I appreciate your help.

--Ed L

-----Original Message----- From: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. [mailto:byrdjf@embarqmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 1:51 PM To: 'Ed Lyerly'; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Thermostat .... visual differenced between Cleveland and. Windsor thermostats

Here is a photo of the Marlin Jack's thermostat and restrictor. Notice the copper "hat" on the end.

Also is a write up I did to compare the bypassing versus radiator flow between the proper thermostat and one that was sold by MS .

A pic of the MS wrong stat in the packaging

Joe in NC

-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Ed Lyerly Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 12:02 PM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Thermostat .... visual differenced between Cleveland and. Windsor thermostats

I have read several times of Pantera owners having overheating problems that were at least partially caused by using a Windsor thermostat

in the Cleveland Pantera engine. Does anyone have a picture they could share which would allow a visual identification of the differences in

these different thermostats?

Thanks,

--Ed L

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Thank you Chuck ! Excellent reading and info :-) --Ed l -----Original Message----- From: The DeTomaso Registry Guy [mailto:detomasoregistry@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 7:38 PM To: 'Ed Lyerly'; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Thermostat .... visual differenced between Clevelandand. Windsor thermostats Ed, Yes, Long ago Matt Wells shared two photos; one a "Cleveland" thermostat and a Windsor. Find the photos here: www.provamo.com/Members/TechInfo/Cooling.asp Chuck (Running days behind - grin.) I have read several times of Pantera owners having overheating problems that were at least partially caused by using a Windsor thermostat in the Cleveland Pantera engine. Does anyone have a picture they could share which would allow a visual identification of the differences in these different thermostats? Thanks, --Ed L