Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
I support the POCA Board of Directors.
On Jul 22, 2016, at 6:11 AM, Michael Shortt <michaelsavga@gmail.com> wrote:
My Fellow POCA Members,
It is with deep regret that I must inform you of improprieties within your club which has resulted in the
suspension of the POCA.Com website. Most of you know that I have personally been the target of attacks since before assuming office as the President of POCA last Jan 1st. It has been an incessant, organized and relentless campaign staged by a small handful of members resistant to change. I will name them below, but first a little history so that you know where my motivation comes from and why I thought I could make a difference, I will be brief. This club over the past two decades has hovered in the 700-800 member range, without fail, the club has attracted 30-60 new members each year and lost an equal number, some years, like in 2014/15, losing over 150 members. Growth has never been possible because member retention and member recruitment has ever been a priority. If your expenses and dues remain flat and new blood is not required, it just means that you
basically have a stagnant and aging membership (like any older community church). That is what POCA had, and a membership with over
60% of it's members over 60, and 20% over 70.
Expenses have grown unchecked and the club spends more money than it take in. It also was dated with no updates in well over a decade.
I saw all of this and thought with my particular skill sets I could make a difference. I immediately set about an agenda with 27 items and was told that I would never
get half of that done in my full two year term, I did all of it in 5 months with the then current support of a progressive BOD. Meanwhile, the person whom I defeated for President ( 77% - 23%) Rob D'Orazio, Larry Finch, Asa Jay Laughton, and others, most recently Gil Mares have beleaguered me 24/7 with email, false accusations, lies, technical BS and simply mean and hateful emails. When the poca email forum was disabled to make room for the new and improved poca.com ( which I built and designed after asking for help form these same people and none volunteered ), they went out with Kurt Byrnes and created another email forum which is the most vile and disgusting, most toxic email list you could ever hope to not be apart of and it's primary purpose has been to slander, libel, lie, and create dissension within POCA. None of those named so far have contributed anything to the club while I have been President except hate and I was lucky enough to be their primary target, No worries, as many of you know, I work in show biz and politics, so i'm used to professional haters,
a few amateurs didn't really affect me and the club has flourished. The first list that was supplied to me of members after 3 months of begging showed 808
POCA members, after culling out those who were deceased or expired that number of active, PAID POCA members was 718 active members.
This club spent $6,000 last year sending publications to the dead and those not paying dues.
As of yesterday, that number is now 867 active paid members. Many of the deadbeats paid up and we have added over 100 NEW members.
A part of that effort resulted in the resignations of Jack DeRyke as Newsletter editor and Mike Haney as Profiles editor because I was finally able to get the BOD
to listen to reason and change printers, we have been robbed by 10 years, paying $100,000 more for Black and White printing than FULL COLOR printing would cost.
It is rumoured that there was more to that than I can confirm, but the result was without using THAT printer,, they stopped working.
Josette D'Orazio resigned as POCA store manager after 2.5 years of service while selling 166 orders., she said that my vision of an expanded store (revenue producing )was not
what she wanted to do and did not want to do the extra work as required. I understand and it was a nice parting.
Why the emphasis on Money, the club runs on money, Printing alone was 17% more than all of our dues.
The fun rally was supposed to make money, but they spent $20,205 on booze over 3 days, $47,000 in gross revenue and the club retained $1,600,
I will not bore you with a detailed list of improvements, but there have been many, suffice it to say, the club has seen more new and different in the last 7 months than in the past 20 years.
That was my goal and it was done while under constant attack. Most recently, worrying about the name of the forming "Southern Pride Panteras" chapter as being inappropriate
( clearly not knowing a large group of big cats is called a Pride, usually Lions, esp since Tigers, Leopards and Panthers are unlikely to gather in groups). Then it was us bring Tom Tjarrda
here to represent the club on the national stage ( while we still can have him with us) and so many other ridiculous things that were truly none of their business, all while recruiting no members and
contributing nothing positive to the club.
WHY The website is down
over the last month, the miscreants finally realized I was immune to their nonsense and just carried on doing what needed to be done to create a better POCA Membership Experience, value added if you will,
for each of you.
Sso they changed focus and begin attacking John Buckman, Joe Stockett and Ed Mendez, all fine gentlemen and a solid part of the fist 6 months of progress we made. I certainly could not have
done anything with their support.
Yet, they are not me, Larry Finch and Gil Mares specifically ( the same man who spent $1,200 of club money as a part of the Fun Rally committee to travel to Las Vegas earlier this year and then quit the committee leaving us in the lurch to name replacements in March for the event in May ) browbeat John, Joe and Ed to such a degree, the following has occurred. Yesterday they called the web hosting company and expressed a desire to change the direction of the club. Last night against all the rules, bylaws, etc. they had a impromptu BOD meeting ( without us) and essentially have started acoup to take over the club. The website host company as a matter of policy and to protect the content of the website learned of this, thankfully preserving my 600+ hours of work) and disabled the website to keep them from destroying it and changing it
, erasing everything that I have built. As you can imagine, Mike Burnett, Laurie Basile and I are beside ourselves at this turn of events. The first thing a third world dictator or anarchist does when taking over a government ( but a car club,? it seems so stupid doesn't it) is to disable the communications. You are going to be sent a survey this morning, it has biu one question.
Do you want me to fight and give you the club that you deserve, to continue these improvements and finish dragging us out of the 80's and into the 21st century?
or
Do you want us, Mike Burnett, Laurie Basile and I to just give up and let the weak have the club and be at the continued direction of this very, very small group* of haters and bullies letting the club revert back to the way it was for the last 20 years?
You know I love a fight, you know I love to stand up to bullies, so do not worry about us, we can handle it if that is what you want. * It should be noted that Rob D'Orazio attempted to have his small 30 member Chapter leave POCA last month and could not even manage to convince his own club to follow him.
If you indicate a fight, look for it to be epic. If you wish to return to the past, the three of us will resign ( as soon as Bob reid reimburses the $7,000 I am owed by the club for the new cards,
New POCA store items,and other expenses)
I await the results of the survey, I apologize this has happened and I hope that you will indicate in strong numbers your displeasure at the actions of 10 people over the rest of us ( 857 ).
Thank you,
Michael Shortt
STILL President
POCA --
Michael L. Shortt Savannah, Georgia michael@michaelshortt.com 912-232-9390
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I support the POCA Board of Directors. On Jul 22, 2016, at 6:11 AM, Michael Shortt <[1]michaelsavga@gmail.com> wrote: My Fellow POCA Members, It is with deep regret that I must inform you of improprieties within your club which has resulted in the suspension of the [2]POCA.Com website. Most of you know that I have personally been the target of attacks since before assuming office as the President of POCA last Jan 1st. It has been an incessant, organized and relentless campaign staged by a small handful of members resistant to change. I will name them below, but first a little history so that you know where my motivation comes from and why I thought I could make a difference, I will be brief. This club over the past two decades has hovered in the 700-800 member range, without fail, the club has attracted 30-60 new members each year and lost an equal number, some years, like in 2014/15, losing over 150 members. Growth has never been possible because member retention and member recruitment has ever been a priority. If your expenses and dues remain flat and new blood is not required, it just means that you basically have a stagnant and aging membership (like any older community church). That is what POCA had, and a membership with over 60 % of it's members over 60, and 20% over 70. Expenses have grown unchecked and the club spends more money than it take in. It also was dated with no updates in well over a decade. I saw all of this and thought with my particular skill sets I could make a difference. I immediately set about an agenda with 27 items and was told that I would never get half of that done in my full two year term, I did all of it in 5 months with the then current support of a progressive BOD. Meanwhile, the person whom I defeated for President ( 77% - 23%) Rob D'Orazio, Larry Finch, Asa Jay Laughton, and others, most recently Gil Mares have beleaguered me 24/7 with email, false accusations, lies, technical BS and simply mean and hateful emails. When the poca email forum was disabled to make room for the new and improved [3]poca.com ( which I built and designed after asking for help form these same people and none volunteered ), they went out with Kurt Byrnes and created another email forum which is the most vile and disgusting, most toxic email list you could ever hope to not be apart of and it's primary purpose has been to slander, libel, lie, and create dissension within POCA. None of those named so far have contributed anything to the club while I have been President except hate and I was lucky enough to be their primary target, No worries, as many of you know, I work in show biz and politics, so i'm used to professional haters, a few amateurs didn't really affect me and the club has flourished. The first list that was supplied to me of members after 3 months of begging showed 808 POCA members, after culling out those who were deceased or expired that number of active, PAID POCA members was 718 active members. This club spent $6,000 last year sending publications to the dead and those not paying dues. As of yesterday, that number is now 867 active paid members. Many of the deadbeats paid up and we have added over 100 NEW members. A part of that effort resulted in the resignations of Jack DeRyke as Newsletter editor and Mike Haney as Profiles editor because I was finally able to get the BOD to listen to reason and change printers, we have been robbed by 10 years, paying $100,000 more for Black and White printing than FULL COLOR printing would cost. It is rumoured that there was more to that than I can confirm, but the result was without using THAT printer,, they stopped working. Josette D'Orazio resigned as POCA store manager after 2.5 years of service while selling 166 orders., she said that my vision of an expanded store (revenue producing )was not what she wanted to do and did not want to do the extra work as required. I understand and it was a nice parting. Why the emphasis on Money, the club runs on money, Printing alone was 17% more than all of our dues. The fun rally was supposed to make money, but they spent $20,205 on booze over 3 days, $47,000 in gross revenue and the club retained $1,600, I will not bore you with a detailed list of improvements, but there have been many, suffice it to say, the club has seen more new and different in the last 7 months than in the past 20 years. That was my goal and it was done while under constant attack. Most recently, worrying about the name of the forming "Southern Pride Panteras" chapter as being inappropriate ( clearly not knowing a large group of big cats is called a Pride, usually Lions, esp since Tigers, Leopards and Panthers are unlikely to gather in groups). Then it was us bring Tom Tjarrda here to represent the club on the national stage ( while we still can have him with us) and so many other ridiculous things that were truly none of their business, all while recruiting no members and contributing nothing positive to the club. WHY The website is down over the last month, the miscreants finally realized I was immune to their nonsense and just carried on doing what needed to be done to create a better POCA Membership Experience, value added if you will, for each of you. S so they changed focus and begin attacking John Buckman, Joe Stockett and Ed Mendez, all fine gentlemen and a solid part of the fist 6 months of progress we made. I certainly could not have done anything with their support. Yet, they are not me, Larry Finch and Gil Mares specifically ( the same man who spent $1,200 of club money as a part of the Fun Rally committee to travel to Las Vegas earlier this year and then quit the committee leaving us in the lurch to name replacements in March for the event in May ) browbeat John, Joe and Ed to such a degree, the following has occurred. Yesterday they called the web hosting company and expressed a desire to change the direction of the club. Last night against all the rules, bylaws, etc. they had a impromptu BOD meeting ( without us) and essentially have started acoup to take over the club. The website host company as a matter of policy and to protect the content of the website learned of this, thankfully preserving my 600+ hours of work) and disabled the website to keep them from destroying it and changing it , erasing everything that I have built. As you can imagine, Mike Burnett, Laurie Basile and I are beside ourselves at this turn of events. The first thing a third world dictator or anarchist does when taking over a government ( but a car club,? it seems so stupid doesn't it) is to disable the communications. You are going to be sent a survey this morning, it has biu one question. Do you want me to fight and give you the club that you deserve, to continue these improvements and finish dragging us out of the 80's and into the 21st century? or Do you want us, Mike Burnett, Laurie Basile and I to just give up and let the weak have the club and be at the continued direction of this very, very small group* of haters and bullies letting the club revert back to the way it was for the last 20 years? You know I love a fight, you know I love to stand up to bullies, so do not worry about us, we can handle it if that is what you want. * It should be noted that Rob D'Orazio attempted to have his small 30 member Chapter leave POCA last month and could not even manage to convince his own club to follow him. If you indicate a fight, look for it to be epic. If you wish to return to the past, the three of us will resign ( as soon as Bob reid reimburses the $7,000 I am owed by the club for the new cards, New POCA store items,and other expenses) I await the results of the survey, I apologize this has happened and I hope that you will indicate in strong numbers your displeasure at the actions of 10 people over the rest of us ( 857 ). Thank you, Michael Shortt STILL President POCA -- Michael L. Shortt Savannah, Georgia [4]michael@michaelshortt.com 912-232-9390 This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please reply to the sender that you have received this message in error, then delete it. Thank you References 1. mailto:michaelsavga@gmail.com 2. http://poca.com/ 3. http://poca.com/ 4. mailto:michael@michaelshortt.com
I support the efforts of Michael Shortt and voice my displeasure to those that want to keep the status quo, and not give a chance to those who want to try to improve a very stagnant organization, that is held back by folks that put personalities ahead of the future welfare of the club. On Jul 22, 2016 9:38 AM, "Scott Couchman via DeTomaso" < detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
I support the POCA Board of Directors.
On Jul 22, 2016, at 6:11 AM, Michael Shortt <[1]michaelsavga@gmail.com> wrote:
My Fellow POCA Members,
It is with deep regret that I must inform you of improprieties within your club which has resulted in the suspension of the [2]POCA.Com website.
Most of you know that I have personally been the target of attacks since before assuming office as the President of POCA last Jan 1st.
It has been an incessant, organized and relentless campaign staged by a small handful of members resistant to change. I will name them
below, but first a little history so that you know where my motivation comes from and why I thought I could make a difference, I will be brief.
This club over the past two decades has hovered in the 700-800 member range, without fail, the club has attracted 30-60 new members each year
and lost an equal number, some years, like in 2014/15, losing over 150 members. Growth has never been possible because member retention
and member recruitment has ever been a priority. If your expenses and dues remain flat and new blood is not required, it just means that you
basically have a stagnant and aging membership (like any older community church).
That is what POCA had, and a membership with over 60 % of it's members over 60, and 20% over 70.
Expenses have grown unchecked and the club spends more money than it take in. It also was dated with no updates in well over a decade.
I saw all of this and thought with my particular skill sets I could make a difference. I immediately set about an agenda with 27 items and was told that I would never
get half of that done in my full two year term, I did all of it in 5 months with the then current support of a progressive BOD.
Meanwhile, the person whom I defeated for President ( 77% - 23%) Rob D'Orazio, Larry Finch, Asa Jay Laughton, and others, most recently Gil Mares have
beleaguered me 24/7 with email, false accusations, lies, technical BS and simply mean and hateful emails. When the poca email forum was disabled to
make room for the new and improved [3]poca.com ( which I built and designed after asking for help form these same people and none volunteered ), they went out
with Kurt Byrnes and created another email forum which is the most vile and disgusting, most toxic email list you could ever hope to not be apart of and it's primary
purpose has been to slander, libel, lie, and create dissension within POCA. None of those named so far have contributed anything to the club while I have been President
except hate and I was lucky enough to be their primary target, No worries,
as many of you know, I work in show biz and politics, so i'm used to professional haters,
a few amateurs didn't really affect me and the club has flourished. The first list that was supplied to me of members after 3 months of begging showed 808
POCA members, after culling out those who were deceased or expired that number of active, PAID POCA members was 718 active members.
This club spent $6,000 last year sending publications to the dead and those not paying dues.
As of yesterday, that number is now 867 active paid members. Many of the deadbeats paid up and we have added over 100 NEW members.
A part of that effort resulted in the resignations of Jack DeRyke as Newsletter editor and Mike Haney as Profiles editor because I was finally able to get the BOD
to listen to reason and change printers, we have been robbed by 10 years, paying $100,000 more for Black and White printing than FULL COLOR printing would cost.
It is rumoured that there was more to that than I can confirm, but the result was without using THAT printer,, they stopped working.
Josette D'Orazio resigned as POCA store manager after 2.5 years of service while selling 166 orders., she said that my vision of an expanded store (revenue producing )was not
what she wanted to do and did not want to do the extra work as required. I understand and it was a nice parting.
Why the emphasis on Money, the club runs on money, Printing alone was 17% more than all of our dues.
The fun rally was supposed to make money, but they spent $20,205 on booze over 3 days, $47,000 in gross revenue and the club retained $1,600,
I will not bore you with a detailed list of improvements, but there have been many, suffice it to say, the club has seen more new and different in the last 7 months than in the past 20 years.
That was my goal and it was done while under constant attack. Most recently, worrying about the name of the forming "Southern Pride Panteras" chapter as being inappropriate
( clearly not knowing a large group of big cats is called a Pride, usually Lions, esp since Tigers, Leopards and Panthers are unlikely to gather in groups). Then it was us bring Tom Tjarrda
here to represent the club on the national stage ( while we still can have him with us) and so many other ridiculous things that were truly none of their business, all while recruiting no members and
contributing nothing positive to the club.
WHY The website is down
over the last month, the miscreants finally realized I was immune to their nonsense and just carried on doing what needed to be done to create a better POCA Membership Experience,
value added if you will, for each of you.
S so they changed focus and begin attacking John Buckman, Joe Stockett and Ed Mendez, all fine gentlemen and a solid part of the fist 6 months of progress we made. I certainly could not have
done anything with their support.
Yet, they are not me, Larry Finch and Gil Mares specifically ( the same man who spent $1,200 of club money as a part of the Fun Rally committee to travel to Las Vegas earlier this year and then
quit the committee leaving us in the lurch to name replacements in March for the event in May ) browbeat John, Joe and Ed to such a degree, the following has occurred.
Yesterday they called the web hosting company and expressed a desire to change the direction of the club. Last night against all the rules, bylaws, etc.
they had a impromptu BOD meeting ( without us) and essentially have started acoup to take over the club.
The website host company as a matter of policy and to protect the content of the website learned of this, thankfully preserving my 600+ hours of work)
and disabled the website to keep them from destroying it and changing it , erasing everything that I have built.
As you can imagine, Mike Burnett, Laurie Basile and I are beside ourselves at this turn of events.
The first thing a third world dictator or anarchist does when taking over a government ( but a car club,? it seems so stupid doesn't it) is to disable the communications.
You are going to be sent a survey this morning, it has biu one question.
Do you want me to fight and give you the club that you deserve, to continue these improvements and finish dragging us out of the 80's and into the 21st century?
or
Do you want us, Mike Burnett, Laurie Basile and I to just give up and let the weak have the club and be at the continued direction of this very, very small group* of haters and bullies letting
the club revert back to the way it was for the last 20 years?
You know I love a fight, you know I love to stand up to bullies, so do not worry about us, we can handle it if that is what you want.
* It should be noted that Rob D'Orazio attempted to have his small 30 member Chapter leave POCA last month and could not even manage to convince his own club to follow him.
If you indicate a fight, look for it to be epic. If you wish to return to the past, the three of us will resign ( as soon as Bob reid reimburses the $7,000 I am owed by the club for the new cards,
New POCA store items,and other expenses)
I await the results of the survey, I apologize this has happened and I hope that you will indicate in strong numbers your displeasure at the actions of 10 people over the rest of us ( 857 ).
Thank you,
Michael Shortt
STILL President
POCA -- Michael L. Shortt Savannah, Georgia [4]michael@michaelshortt.com 912-232-9390
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References
1. mailto:michaelsavga@gmail.com 2. http://poca.com/ 3. http://poca.com/ 4. mailto:michael@michaelshortt.com
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I support the efforts of Michael Shortt and voice my displeasure to those that want to keep the status quo, and not give a chance to those who want to try to improve a very stagnant organization, that is held back by folks that put personalities ahead of the future welfare of the club. On Jul 22, 2016 9:38 AM, "Scott Couchman via DeTomaso" <[1]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote: A A I support the POCA Board of Directors. A A On Jul 22, 2016, at 6:11 AM, Michael Shortt <[1][2]michaelsavga@gmail.com> A A wrote: A A My Fellow POCA Members, A A It is with deep regret that I must inform you of improprieties within A A your club which has resulted in the A A suspension of the [2]POCA.Com website. A A Most of you know that I have personally been the target of attacks A A since before assuming office as the President of POCA last Jan 1st. A A It has been an incessant, organized and relentless campaign staged by a A A small handful of members resistant to change. I will name them A A below, but first a little history so that you know where my motivation A A comes from and why I thought I could make a difference, I will be A A brief. A A This club over the past two decades has hovered in the 700-800 member A A range, without fail, the club has attracted 30-60 new members each year A A and lost an equal number, some years, like in 2014/15, losing over 150 A A members.A Growth has never been possible because member retention A A and member recruitment has ever been a priority. A A If your expenses and dues remain flat and new blood is not required, A A it just means that you A A basically have a stagnant and aging membership (like any older A A community church). A A That is what POCA had, and a membership with over A A 60 A A % of it's members over 60, and 20% over 70. A A Expenses have grown unchecked and the club spends more money than it A A take in.A It also was dated with no updates in well over a decade. A A I saw all of this and thought with my particular skill sets I could A A make a difference.A I immediately set about an agenda with 27 items and A A was told that I would never A A get half of that done in my full two year term, I did all of it in 5 A A months with the then current support of a progressive BOD. A A Meanwhile, the person whom I defeated for President ( 77% - 23%) Rob A A D'Orazio, Larry Finch, Asa Jay Laughton, and others, most recently Gil A A Mares have A A beleaguered me 24/7 with email, false accusations, lies, technical BS A A and simply mean and hateful emails.A When the poca email forum was A A disabled to A A make room for the new and improved [3][3]poca.com ( which I built and A A designed after asking for help form these same people and none A A volunteered ), they went out A A with Kurt Byrnes and created another email forum which is the most vile A A and disgusting, most toxic email list you could ever hope to not be A A apart of and it's primary A A purpose has been to slander, libel, lie, and create dissension within A A POCA.A None of those named so far have contributed anything to the club A A while I have been President A A except hate and I was lucky enough to be their primary target, No A A worries, A A as many of you know, I work in show biz and politics, so i'm used to A A professional haters, A A a few amateurs didn't really affect me and the club has flourished. A A The first list that was supplied to me of members after 3 months of A A begging showed 808 A A POCA members, after culling out those who were deceased or expired that A A number of active, PAID POCA members was 718 active members. A A This club spent $6,000 last year sending publications to the dead and A A those not paying dues. A A As of yesterday, that number is now A A 867 active paid members.A Many of the deadbeats paid up and we have A A added over 100 NEW members. A A A part of that effort resulted in the resignations of Jack DeRyke as A A Newsletter editor and Mike Haney as Profiles editor because I was A A finally able to get the BOD A A to listen to reason and change printers, we have been robbed by 10 A A years, paying $100,000 more for Black and White printing than FULL A A COLOR printing would cost. A A It is rumoured that there was more to that than I can confirm, but the A A result was without using THAT printer,, they stopped working. A A Josette D'Orazio resigned as POCA store manager after 2.5 years of A A service while selling 166 orders., she said that my vision of an A A expanded store (revenue producing )was not A A what she wanted to do and did not want to do the extra work as A A required.A I understand and it was a nice parting. A A Why the emphasis on Money, the club runs on money, Printing alone was A A 17% more than all of our dues. A A The fun rally was supposed to make money, but they spent $20,205 on A A booze over 3 days, $47,000 in gross revenue and the club retained A A $1,600, A A I will not bore you with a detailed list of improvements, but there A A have been many, suffice it to say, the club has seen more new and A A different in the last 7 months than in the past 20 years. A A That was my goal and it was done while under constant attack.A Most A A recently, worrying about the name of the forming "Southern Pride A A Panteras" chapter as being inappropriate A A ( clearly not knowing a large group of big cats is called a Pride, A A usually Lions, esp since Tigers, Leopards and Panthers are unlikely to A A gather in groups).A Then it was us bring Tom Tjarrda A A here to represent the club on the national stage ( while we still can A A have him with us) and so many other ridiculous things that were truly A A none of their business, all while recruiting no members and A A contributing nothing positive to the club. A A WHY The website is down A A over the last month, the miscreants finally realized I was immune to A A their nonsense and just carried on doing what needed to be done to A A create a better POCA Membership Experience, A A value added if you will, A A for each of you. A A S A A so they changed focus and begin A A attacking John Buckman, Joe Stockett and Ed Mendez, all fine gentlemen A A and a solid part of the fist 6 months of progress we made.A I certainly A A could not have A A done anything with their support. A A Yet, they are not me, Larry Finch and Gil Mares specifically ( the same A A man who spent $1,200 of club money as a part of the Fun Rally committee A A to travel to Las Vegas earlier this year and then A A quit the committee leaving us in the lurch to name replacements in A A March for the event in May ) browbeat John, Joe and Ed to such a A A degree, the following has occurred. A A Yesterday they called the web hosting company and expressed a desire to A A change the direction of the club.A Last night against all the rules, A A bylaws, etc. A A they had a impromptu BOD meeting ( without us) and essentially have A A started acoup to take over the club. A A The website host company as a matter of policy and to protect A A the content of the website learned of this, A A thankfully preserving my 600+ hours of work) A A and disabled the website to keep them from destroying it and changing A A it A A , A A erasing everything that I have built. A A As you can imagine, Mike Burnett, Laurie Basile and I are beside A A ourselves at this turn of events. A A The first thing a third world dictator or anarchist does when taking A A over a government ( but a car club,? it seems so stupid doesn't it) is A A to disable the communications. A A You are going to be sent a survey this morning,A it has biu one A A question. A A Do you want me to fight and give you the club that you deserve, A A to continue these improvements and finish dragging us out of the 80's A A and into the 21st century? A A or A A Do you want us, Mike Burnett, Laurie Basile and I to just give up and A A let the weak have the club and be at the continued direction of this A A very, very small group* of haters and bullies letting A A the club revert back to the way it was for the last 20 years? A A You know I love a fight, you know I love to stand up to bullies, so do A A not worry about us, we can handle it if that is what you want. A A * It should be noted that Rob D'Orazio attempted to have his small 30 A A member Chapter A A leave A A POCA last month A A and could not even manage to convince his own club to follow him. A A If you indicate a fight, look for it to be epic. If you wish to return A A to the past, the three of us will resign ( as soon as Bob reid A A reimburses the $7,000 I am owed by the club for the new cards, A A New POCA store items,and other expenses) A A I await the results of the survey, I apologize this has happened and I A A hope that you will indicate in strong numbers your displeasure at the A A actions of 10 people over the rest of us ( 857 ). A A Thank you, A A Michael Shortt A A STILL President A A POCA A A -- A A Michael L. Shortt A A Savannah, Georgia A A [4][4]michael@michaelshortt.com A A [5]912-232-9390 A A This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy A A Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally A A privileged.A If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby A A notified A A that any retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this A A communication is strictly prohibited.A Please reply to the sender that A A you A A have received this message in error, then delete it.A Thank you References A A 1. mailto:[6]michaelsavga@gmail.com A A 2. [7]http://poca.com/ A A 3. [8]http://poca.com/ A A 4. mailto:[9]michael@michaelshortt.com _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [10]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [11]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. 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I, too, support the changes being made. What I am having trouble abiding by is the communications from Mr. Shortt. The above email is a perfect example. Alas, I am no longer a member so it's no longer my battle. Such potential wasted needlessly. Jeff 6559 On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Dick Koch <redcatman74@gmail.com> wrote:
I support the efforts of Michael Shortt and voice my displeasure to those that want to keep the status quo, and not give a chance to those who want to try to improve a very stagnant organization, that is held back by folks that put personalities ahead of the future welfare of the club.
On Jul 22, 2016 9:38 AM, "Scott Couchman via DeTomaso" <[1]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
A A I support the POCA Board of Directors. A A On Jul 22, 2016, at 6:11 AM, Michael Shortt <[1][2]michaelsavga@gmail.com> A A wrote: A A My Fellow POCA Members, A A It is with deep regret that I must inform you of improprieties within A A your club which has resulted in the A A suspension of the [2]POCA.Com website. A A Most of you know that I have personally been the target of attacks A A since before assuming office as the President of POCA last Jan 1st. A A It has been an incessant, organized and relentless campaign staged by a A A small handful of members resistant to change. I will name them A A below, but first a little history so that you know where my motivation A A comes from and why I thought I could make a difference, I will be A A brief. A A This club over the past two decades has hovered in the 700-800 member A A range, without fail, the club has attracted 30-60 new members each year A A and lost an equal number, some years, like in 2014/15, losing over 150 A A members.A Growth has never been possible because member retention A A and member recruitment has ever been a priority. A A If your expenses and dues remain flat and new blood is not required, A A it just means that you A A basically have a stagnant and aging membership (like any older A A community church). A A That is what POCA had, and a membership with over A A 60 A A % of it's members over 60, and 20% over 70. A A Expenses have grown unchecked and the club spends more money than it A A take in.A It also was dated with no updates in well over a decade. A A I saw all of this and thought with my particular skill sets I could A A make a difference.A I immediately set about an agenda with 27 items and A A was told that I would never A A get half of that done in my full two year term, I did all of it in 5 A A months with the then current support of a progressive BOD. A A Meanwhile, the person whom I defeated for President ( 77% - 23%) Rob A A D'Orazio, Larry Finch, Asa Jay Laughton, and others, most recently Gil A A Mares have A A beleaguered me 24/7 with email, false accusations, lies, technical BS A A and simply mean and hateful emails.A When the poca email forum was A A disabled to A A make room for the new and improved [3][3]poca.com ( which I built and A A designed after asking for help form these same people and none A A volunteered ), they went out A A with Kurt Byrnes and created another email forum which is the most vile A A and disgusting, most toxic email list you could ever hope to not be A A apart of and it's primary A A purpose has been to slander, libel, lie, and create dissension within A A POCA.A None of those named so far have contributed anything to the club A A while I have been President A A except hate and I was lucky enough to be their primary target, No A A worries, A A as many of you know, I work in show biz and politics, so i'm used to A A professional haters, A A a few amateurs didn't really affect me and the club has flourished. A A The first list that was supplied to me of members after 3 months of A A begging showed 808 A A POCA members, after culling out those who were deceased or expired that A A number of active, PAID POCA members was 718 active members. A A This club spent $6,000 last year sending publications to the dead and A A those not paying dues. A A As of yesterday, that number is now A A 867 active paid members.A Many of the deadbeats paid up and we have A A added over 100 NEW members. A A A part of that effort resulted in the resignations of Jack DeRyke as A A Newsletter editor and Mike Haney as Profiles editor because I was A A finally able to get the BOD A A to listen to reason and change printers, we have been robbed by 10 A A years, paying $100,000 more for Black and White printing than FULL A A COLOR printing would cost. A A It is rumoured that there was more to that than I can confirm, but the A A result was without using THAT printer,, they stopped working. A A Josette D'Orazio resigned as POCA store manager after 2.5 years of A A service while selling 166 orders., she said that my vision of an A A expanded store (revenue producing )was not A A what she wanted to do and did not want to do the extra work as A A required.A I understand and it was a nice parting. A A Why the emphasis on Money, the club runs on money, Printing alone was A A 17% more than all of our dues. A A The fun rally was supposed to make money, but they spent $20,205 on A A booze over 3 days, $47,000 in gross revenue and the club retained A A $1,600, A A I will not bore you with a detailed list of improvements, but there A A have been many, suffice it to say, the club has seen more new and A A different in the last 7 months than in the past 20 years. A A That was my goal and it was done while under constant attack.A Most A A recently, worrying about the name of the forming "Southern Pride A A Panteras" chapter as being inappropriate A A ( clearly not knowing a large group of big cats is called a Pride, A A usually Lions, esp since Tigers, Leopards and Panthers are unlikely to A A gather in groups).A Then it was us bring Tom Tjarrda A A here to represent the club on the national stage ( while we still can A A have him with us) and so many other ridiculous things that were truly A A none of their business, all while recruiting no members and A A contributing nothing positive to the club. A A WHY The website is down A A over the last month, the miscreants finally realized I was immune to A A their nonsense and just carried on doing what needed to be done to A A create a better POCA Membership Experience, A A value added if you will, A A for each of you. A A S A A so they changed focus and begin A A attacking John Buckman, Joe Stockett and Ed Mendez, all fine gentlemen A A and a solid part of the fist 6 months of progress we made.A I certainly A A could not have A A done anything with their support. A A Yet, they are not me, Larry Finch and Gil Mares specifically ( the same A A man who spent $1,200 of club money as a part of the Fun Rally committee A A to travel to Las Vegas earlier this year and then A A quit the committee leaving us in the lurch to name replacements in A A March for the event in May ) browbeat John, Joe and Ed to such a A A degree, the following has occurred. A A Yesterday they called the web hosting company and expressed a desire to A A change the direction of the club.A Last night against all the rules, A A bylaws, etc. A A they had a impromptu BOD meeting ( without us) and essentially have A A started acoup to take over the club. A A The website host company as a matter of policy and to protect A A the content of the website learned of this, A A thankfully preserving my 600+ hours of work) A A and disabled the website to keep them from destroying it and changing A A it A A , A A erasing everything that I have built. A A As you can imagine, Mike Burnett, Laurie Basile and I are beside A A ourselves at this turn of events. A A The first thing a third world dictator or anarchist does when taking A A over a government ( but a car club,? it seems so stupid doesn't it) is A A to disable the communications. A A You are going to be sent a survey this morning,A it has biu one A A question. A A Do you want me to fight and give you the club that you deserve, A A to continue these improvements and finish dragging us out of the 80's A A and into the 21st century? A A or A A Do you want us, Mike Burnett, Laurie Basile and I to just give up and A A let the weak have the club and be at the continued direction of this A A very, very small group* of haters and bullies letting A A the club revert back to the way it was for the last 20 years? A A You know I love a fight, you know I love to stand up to bullies, so do A A not worry about us, we can handle it if that is what you want. A A * It should be noted that Rob D'Orazio attempted to have his small 30 A A member Chapter A A leave A A POCA last month A A and could not even manage to convince his own club to follow him. A A If you indicate a fight, look for it to be epic. If you wish to return A A to the past, the three of us will resign ( as soon as Bob reid A A reimburses the $7,000 I am owed by the club for the new cards, A A New POCA store items,and other expenses) A A I await the results of the survey, I apologize this has happened and I A A hope that you will indicate in strong numbers your displeasure at the A A actions of 10 people over the rest of us ( 857 ). A A Thank you, A A Michael Shortt A A STILL President A A POCA A A -- A A Michael L. Shortt A A Savannah, Georgia A A [4][4]michael@michaelshortt.com A A [5]912-232-9390 A A This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy A A Act, 18 U.S.C. 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I, too, support the changes being made. What I am having trouble abiding by is the communications from Mr. Shortt. The above email is a perfect example. Alas, I am no longer a member so it's no longer my battle. Such potential wasted needlessly.A Jeff 6559 On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Dick Koch <[1]redcatman74@gmail.com> wrote: A A I support the efforts of Michael Shortt and voice my displeasure to A A those that want to keep the status quo, and not give a chance to those A A who want to try to improve a very stagnant organization, that is held A A back by folks that put personalities ahead of the future welfare of the A A club. A A On Jul 22, 2016 9:38 AM, "Scott Couchman via DeTomaso" A A <[1][2]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote: A A A AA A I support the POCA Board of Directors. A A A AA A On Jul 22, 2016, at 6:11 AM, Michael Shortt A A A <[1][2][3]michaelsavga@gmail.com> A A A AA A wrote: A A A AA A My Fellow POCA Members, A A A AA A It is with deep regret that I must inform you of improprieties A A A within A A A AA A your club which has resulted in the A A A AA A suspension of the [2]POCA.Com website. A A A AA A Most of you know that I have personally been the target of A A A attacks A A A AA A since before assuming office as the President of POCA last Jan A A A 1st. A A A AA A It has been an incessant, organized and relentless campaign A A A staged by a A A A AA A small handful of members resistant to change. I will name them A A A AA A below, but first a little history so that you know where my A A A motivation A A A AA A comes from and why I thought I could make a difference, I will A A A be A A A AA A brief. A A A AA A This club over the past two decades has hovered in the 700-800 A A A member A A A AA A range, without fail, the club has attracted 30-60 new members A A A each year A A A AA A and lost an equal number, some years, like in 2014/15, losing A A A over 150 A A A AA A members.AA Growth has never been possible because member A A A retention A A A AA A and member recruitment has ever been a priority. A A A AA AA If your expenses and dues remain flat and new blood is not A A A required, A A A AA A it just means that you A A A AA A basically have a stagnant and aging membership (like any older A A A AA A community church). A A A AA A That is what POCA had, and a membership with over A A A AA A 60 A A A AA A % of it's members over 60, and 20% over 70. A A A AA A Expenses have grown unchecked and the club spends more money A A A than it A A A AA A take in.AA It also was dated with no updates in well over a A A A decade. A A A AA A I saw all of this and thought with my particular skill sets I A A A could A A A AA A make a difference.AA I immediately set about an agenda with 27 A A A items and A A A AA A was told that I would never A A A AA A get half of that done in my full two year term, I did all of it A A A in 5 A A A AA A months with the then current support of a progressive BOD. A A A AA A Meanwhile, the person whom I defeated for President ( 77% - A A A 23%) Rob A A A AA A D'Orazio, Larry Finch, Asa Jay Laughton, and others, most A A A recently Gil A A A AA A Mares have A A A AA A beleaguered me 24/7 with email, false accusations, lies, A A A technical BS A A A AA A and simply mean and hateful emails.AA When the poca email forum A A A was A A A AA A disabled to A A A AA A make room for the new and improved [3][3][4]poca.com ( which I A A A built and A A A AA A designed after asking for help form these same people and none A A A AA A volunteered ), they went out A A A AA A with Kurt Byrnes and created another email forum which is the A A A most vile A A A AA A and disgusting, most toxic email list you could ever hope to A A A not be A A A AA A apart of and it's primary A A A AA A purpose has been to slander, libel, lie, and create dissension A A A within A A A AA A POCA.AA None of those named so far have contributed anything to A A A the club A A A AA A while I have been President A A A AA A except hate and I was lucky enough to be their primary target, A A A No A A A AA A worries, A A A AA A as many of you know, I work in show biz and politics, so i'm A A A used to A A A AA A professional haters, A A A AA A a few amateurs didn't really affect me and the club has A A A flourished. A A A AA A The first list that was supplied to me of members after 3 A A A months of A A A AA A begging showed 808 A A A AA A POCA members, after culling out those who were deceased or A A A expired that A A A AA A number of active, PAID POCA members was 718 active members. A A A AA A This club spent $6,000 last year sending publications to the A A A dead and A A A AA A those not paying dues. A A A AA AA As of yesterday, that number is now A A A AA A 867 active paid members.AA Many of the deadbeats paid up and we A A A have A A A AA A added over 100 NEW members. A A A AA A A part of that effort resulted in the resignations of Jack A A A DeRyke as A A A AA A Newsletter editor and Mike Haney as Profiles editor because I A A A was A A A AA A finally able to get the BOD A A A AA A to listen to reason and change printers, we have been robbed by A A A 10 A A A AA A years, paying $100,000 more for Black and White printing than A A A FULL A A A AA A COLOR printing would cost. A A A AA A It is rumoured that there was more to that than I can confirm, A A A but the A A A AA A result was without using THAT printer,, they stopped working. A A A AA A Josette D'Orazio resigned as POCA store manager after 2.5 years A A A of A A A AA A service while selling 166 orders., she said that my vision of A A A an A A A AA A expanded store (revenue producing )was not A A A AA A what she wanted to do and did not want to do the extra work as A A A AA A required.AA I understand and it was a nice parting. A A A AA A Why the emphasis on Money, the club runs on money, Printing A A A alone was A A A AA A 17% more than all of our dues. A A A AA A The fun rally was supposed to make money, but they spent A A A $20,205 on A A A AA A booze over 3 days, $47,000 in gross revenue and the club A A A retained A A A AA A $1,600, A A A AA A I will not bore you with a detailed list of improvements, but A A A there A A A AA A have been many, suffice it to say, the club has seen more new A A A and A A A AA A different in the last 7 months than in the past 20 years. A A A AA A That was my goal and it was done while under constant attack.A A A A Most A A A AA A recently, worrying about the name of the forming "Southern A A A Pride A A A AA A Panteras" chapter as being inappropriate A A A AA A ( clearly not knowing a large group of big cats is called a A A A Pride, A A A AA A usually Lions, esp since Tigers, Leopards and Panthers are A A A unlikely to A A A AA A gather in groups).AA Then it was us bring Tom Tjarrda A A A AA A here to represent the club on the national stage ( while we A A A still can A A A AA A have him with us) and so many other ridiculous things that were A A A truly A A A AA A none of their business, all while recruiting no members and A A A AA A contributing nothing positive to the club. A A A AA A WHY The website is down A A A AA A over the last month, the miscreants finally realized I was A A A immune to A A A AA A their nonsense and just carried on doing what needed to be done A A A to A A A AA A create a better POCA Membership Experience, A A A AA A value added if you will, A A A AA A for each of you. A A A AA A S A A A AA A so they changed focus and begin A A A AA A attacking John Buckman, Joe Stockett and Ed Mendez, all fine A A A gentlemen A A A AA A and a solid part of the fist 6 months of progress we made.AA I A A A certainly A A A AA A could not have A A A AA A done anything with their support. A A A AA A Yet, they are not me, Larry Finch and Gil Mares specifically ( A A A the same A A A AA A man who spent $1,200 of club money as a part of the Fun Rally A A A committee A A A AA A to travel to Las Vegas earlier this year and then A A A AA A quit the committee leaving us in the lurch to name replacements A A A in A A A AA A March for the event in May ) browbeat John, Joe and Ed to such A A A a A A A AA A degree, the following has occurred. A A A AA A Yesterday they called the web hosting company and expressed a A A A desire to A A A AA A change the direction of the club.AA Last night against all the A A A rules, A A A AA A bylaws, etc. A A A AA A they had a impromptu BOD meeting ( without us) and essentially A A A have A A A AA A started acoup to take over the club. A A A AA A The website host company as a matter of policy and to protect A A A AA A the content of the website learned of this, A A A AA A thankfully preserving my 600+ hours of work) A A A AA A and disabled the website to keep them from destroying it and A A A changing A A A AA A it A A A AA A , A A A AA A erasing everything that I have built. A A A AA A As you can imagine, Mike Burnett, Laurie Basile and I are A A A beside A A A AA A ourselves at this turn of events. A A A AA A The first thing a third world dictator or anarchist does when A A A taking A A A AA A over a government ( but a car club,? it seems so stupid doesn't A A A it) is A A A AA A to disable the communications. A A A AA A You are going to be sent a survey this morning,AA it has biu A A A one A A A AA A question. A A A AA A Do you want me to fight and give you the club that you deserve, A A A AA A to continue these improvements and finish dragging us out of A A A the 80's A A A AA A and into the 21st century? A A A AA A or A A A AA A Do you want us, Mike Burnett, Laurie Basile and I to just give A A A up and A A A AA A let the weak have the club and be at the continued direction of A A A this A A A AA A very, very small group* of haters and bullies letting A A A AA A the club revert back to the way it was for the last 20 years? A A A AA A You know I love a fight, you know I love to stand up to A A A bullies, so do A A A AA A not worry about us, we can handle it if that is what you want. A A A AA A * It should be noted that Rob D'Orazio attempted to have his A A A small 30 A A A AA A member Chapter A A A AA A leave A A A AA A POCA last month A A A AA A and could not even manage to convince his own club to follow A A A him. A A A AA A If you indicate a fight, look for it to be epic. If you wish to A A A return A A A AA A to the past, the three of us will resign ( as soon as Bob reid A A A AA A reimburses the $7,000 I am owed by the club for the new cards, A A A AA A New POCA store items,and other expenses) A A A AA A I await the results of the survey, I apologize this has A A A happened and I A A A AA A hope that you will indicate in strong numbers your displeasure A A A at the A A A AA A actions of 10 people over the rest of us ( 857 ). A A A AA A Thank you, A A A AA A Michael Shortt A A A AA A STILL President A A A AA A POCA A A A AA A -- A A A AA A Michael L. Shortt A A A AA A Savannah, Georgia A A A AA A [4][4][5]michael@michaelshortt.com A A A AA A [5]912-232-9390 A A A AA A This email is protected by the Electronic Communications A A A Privacy A A A AA A Act, 18 U.S.C. 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As I have been named as one of the miscreants, I would like to respond. However, I will not do so publicly. If you are interested in a more thorough (and actual) explanation behind some of the lies presented here, you may email me personally. But please make no mistake, Mr. Shortt has a somewhat twisted view of reality. Asa Jay Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired & Shelley Marie Spokane, WA ****************************** [1]http://w7tsc.org [2]http://www.teampanteraracing.com On 7/22/2016 6:37 AM, Scott Couchman via DeTomaso wrote: I support the POCA Board of Directors. On Jul 22, 2016, at 6:11 AM, Michael Shortt [3]<[1]michaelsavga@gmail.com> wrote: My Fellow POCA Members, It is with deep regret that I must inform you of improprieties within your club which has resulted in the suspension of the [2]POCA.Com website. Most of you know that I have personally been the target of attacks since before assuming office as the President of POCA last Jan 1st. It has been an incessant, organized and relentless campaign staged by a small handful of members resistant to change. I will name them below, but first a little history so that you know where my motivation comes from and why I thought I could make a difference, I will be brief. This club over the past two decades has hovered in the 700-800 member range, without fail, the club has attracted 30-60 new members each year and lost an equal number, some years, like in 2014/15, losing over 150 members. Growth has never been possible because member retention and member recruitment has ever been a priority. If your expenses and dues remain flat and new blood is not required, it just means that you basically have a stagnant and aging membership (like any older community church). That is what POCA had, and a membership with over 60 % of it's members over 60, and 20% over 70. Expenses have grown unchecked and the club spends more money than it take in. It also was dated with no updates in well over a decade. I saw all of this and thought with my particular skill sets I could make a difference. I immediately set about an agenda with 27 items and was told that I would never get half of that done in my full two year term, I did all of it in 5 months with the then current support of a progressive BOD. Meanwhile, the person whom I defeated for President ( 77% - 23%) Rob D'Orazio, Larry Finch, Asa Jay Laughton, and others, most recently Gil Mares have beleaguered me 24/7 with email, false accusations, lies, technical BS and simply mean and hateful emails. When the poca email forum was disabled to make room for the new and improved [3]poca.com ( which I built and designed after asking for help form these same people and none volunteered ), they went out with Kurt Byrnes and created another email forum which is the most vile and disgusting, most toxic email list you could ever hope to not be apart of and it's primary purpose has been to slander, libel, lie, and create dissension within POCA. None of those named so far have contributed anything to the club while I have been President except hate and I was lucky enough to be their primary target, No worries, as many of you know, I work in show biz and politics, so i'm used to professional haters, a few amateurs didn't really affect me and the club has flourished. The first list that was supplied to me of members after 3 months of begging showed 808 POCA members, after culling out those who were deceased or expired that number of active, PAID POCA members was 718 active members. This club spent $6,000 last year sending publications to the dead and those not paying dues. As of yesterday, that number is now 867 active paid members. Many of the deadbeats paid up and we have added over 100 NEW members. A part of that effort resulted in the resignations of Jack DeRyke as Newsletter editor and Mike Haney as Profiles editor because I was finally able to get the BOD to listen to reason and change printers, we have been robbed by 10 years, paying $100,000 more for Black and White printing than FULL COLOR printing would cost. It is rumoured that there was more to that than I can confirm, but the result was without using THAT printer,, they stopped working. Josette D'Orazio resigned as POCA store manager after 2.5 years of service while selling 166 orders., she said that my vision of an expanded store (revenue producing )was not what she wanted to do and did not want to do the extra work as required. I understand and it was a nice parting. Why the emphasis on Money, the club runs on money, Printing alone was 17% more than all of our dues. The fun rally was supposed to make money, but they spent $20,205 on booze over 3 days, $47,000 in gross revenue and the club retained $1,600, I will not bore you with a detailed list of improvements, but there have been many, suffice it to say, the club has seen more new and different in the last 7 months than in the past 20 years. That was my goal and it was done while under constant attack. Most recently, worrying about the name of the forming "Southern Pride Panteras" chapter as being inappropriate ( clearly not knowing a large group of big cats is called a Pride, usually Lions, esp since Tigers, Leopards and Panthers are unlikely to gather in groups). Then it was us bring Tom Tjarrda here to represent the club on the national stage ( while we still can have him with us) and so many other ridiculous things that were truly none of their business, all while recruiting no members and contributing nothing positive to the club. WHY The website is down over the last month, the miscreants finally realized I was immune to their nonsense and just carried on doing what needed to be done to create a better POCA Membership Experience, value added if you will, for each of you. S so they changed focus and begin attacking John Buckman, Joe Stockett and Ed Mendez, all fine gentlemen and a solid part of the fist 6 months of progress we made. I certainly could not have done anything with their support. Yet, they are not me, Larry Finch and Gil Mares specifically ( the same man who spent $1,200 of club money as a part of the Fun Rally committee to travel to Las Vegas earlier this year and then quit the committee leaving us in the lurch to name replacements in March for the event in May ) browbeat John, Joe and Ed to such a degree, the following has occurred. Yesterday they called the web hosting company and expressed a desire to change the direction of the club. Last night against all the rules, bylaws, etc. they had a impromptu BOD meeting ( without us) and essentially have started acoup to take over the club. The website host company as a matter of policy and to protect the content of the website learned of this, thankfully preserving my 600+ hours of work) and disabled the website to keep them from destroying it and changing it , erasing everything that I have built. As you can imagine, Mike Burnett, Laurie Basile and I are beside ourselves at this turn of events. The first thing a third world dictator or anarchist does when taking over a government ( but a car club,? it seems so stupid doesn't it) is to disable the communications. You are going to be sent a survey this morning, it has biu one question. Do you want me to fight and give you the club that you deserve, to continue these improvements and finish dragging us out of the 80's and into the 21st century? or Do you want us, Mike Burnett, Laurie Basile and I to just give up and let the weak have the club and be at the continued direction of this very, very small group* of haters and bullies letting the club revert back to the way it was for the last 20 years? You know I love a fight, you know I love to stand up to bullies, so do not worry about us, we can handle it if that is what you want. * It should be noted that Rob D'Orazio attempted to have his small 30 member Chapter leave POCA last month and could not even manage to convince his own club to follow him. If you indicate a fight, look for it to be epic. If you wish to return to the past, the three of us will resign ( as soon as Bob reid reimburses the $7,000 I am owed by the club for the new cards, New POCA store items,and other expenses) I await the results of the survey, I apologize this has happened and I hope that you will indicate in strong numbers your displeasure at the actions of 10 people over the rest of us ( 857 ). Thank you, Michael Shortt STILL President POCA -- Michael L. Shortt Savannah, Georgia [[4]4]michael@michaelshortt.com 912-232-9390 This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please reply to the sender that you have received this message in error, then delete it. Thank you References 1. 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On Jul 22, 2016, at 9:37 AM, Scott Couchman via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
I support the POCA Board of Directors.
On Jul 22, 2016, at 6:11 AM, Michael Shortt <[1]michaelsavga@gmail.com> wrote:
My Fellow POCA Members,
It is with deep regret that I must inform you of improprieties within your club which has resulted in the suspension of the [2]POCA.Com website.
Most of you know that I have personally been the target of attacks since before assuming office as the President of POCA last Jan 1st.
It has been an incessant, organized and relentless campaign staged by a small handful of members resistant to change. I will name them
below, but first a little history so that you know where my motivation comes from and why I thought I could make a difference, I will be brief.
This club over the past two decades has hovered in the 700-800 member range, without fail, the club has attracted 30-60 new members each year
and lost an equal number, some years, like in 2014/15, losing over 150 members. Growth has never been possible because member retention
and member recruitment has ever been a priority. If your expenses and dues remain flat and new blood is not required, it just means that you
basically have a stagnant and aging membership (like any older community church).
That is what POCA had, and a membership with over 60 % of it's members over 60, and 20% over 70.
Expenses have grown unchecked and the club spends more money than it take in. It also was dated with no updates in well over a decade.
I saw all of this and thought with my particular skill sets I could make a difference. I immediately set about an agenda with 27 items and was told that I would never
get half of that done in my full two year term, I did all of it in 5 months with the then current support of a progressive BOD.
Meanwhile, the person whom I defeated for President ( 77% - 23%) Rob D'Orazio, Larry Finch, Asa Jay Laughton, and others, most recently Gil Mares have
beleaguered me 24/7 with email, false accusations, lies, technical BS and simply mean and hateful emails. When the poca email forum was disabled to
make room for the new and improved [3]poca.com ( which I built and designed after asking for help form these same people and none volunteered ), they went out
with Kurt Byrnes and created another email forum which is the most vile and disgusting, most toxic email list you could ever hope to not be apart of and it's primary
purpose has been to slander, libel, lie, and create dissension within POCA. None of those named so far have contributed anything to the club while I have been President
except hate and I was lucky enough to be their primary target, No worries,
as many of you know, I work in show biz and politics, so i'm used to professional haters,
a few amateurs didn't really affect me and the club has flourished. The first list that was supplied to me of members after 3 months of begging showed 808
POCA members, after culling out those who were deceased or expired that number of active, PAID POCA members was 718 active members.
This club spent $6,000 last year sending publications to the dead and those not paying dues.
As of yesterday, that number is now 867 active paid members. Many of the deadbeats paid up and we have added over 100 NEW members.
A part of that effort resulted in the resignations of Jack DeRyke as Newsletter editor and Mike Haney as Profiles editor because I was finally able to get the BOD
to listen to reason and change printers, we have been robbed by 10 years, paying $100,000 more for Black and White printing than FULL COLOR printing would cost.
It is rumoured that there was more to that than I can confirm, but the result was without using THAT printer,, they stopped working.
Josette D'Orazio resigned as POCA store manager after 2.5 years of service while selling 166 orders., she said that my vision of an expanded store (revenue producing )was not
what she wanted to do and did not want to do the extra work as required. I understand and it was a nice parting.
Why the emphasis on Money, the club runs on money, Printing alone was 17% more than all of our dues.
The fun rally was supposed to make money, but they spent $20,205 on booze over 3 days, $47,000 in gross revenue and the club retained $1,600,
I will not bore you with a detailed list of improvements, but there have been many, suffice it to say, the club has seen more new and different in the last 7 months than in the past 20 years.
That was my goal and it was done while under constant attack. Most recently, worrying about the name of the forming "Southern Pride Panteras" chapter as being inappropriate
( clearly not knowing a large group of big cats is called a Pride, usually Lions, esp since Tigers, Leopards and Panthers are unlikely to gather in groups). Then it was us bring Tom Tjarrda
here to represent the club on the national stage ( while we still can have him with us) and so many other ridiculous things that were truly none of their business, all while recruiting no members and
contributing nothing positive to the club.
WHY The website is down
over the last month, the miscreants finally realized I was immune to their nonsense and just carried on doing what needed to be done to create a better POCA Membership Experience,
value added if you will, for each of you.
S so they changed focus and begin attacking John Buckman, Joe Stockett and Ed Mendez, all fine gentlemen and a solid part of the fist 6 months of progress we made. I certainly could not have
done anything with their support.
Yet, they are not me, Larry Finch and Gil Mares specifically ( the same man who spent $1,200 of club money as a part of the Fun Rally committee to travel to Las Vegas earlier this year and then
quit the committee leaving us in the lurch to name replacements in March for the event in May ) browbeat John, Joe and Ed to such a degree, the following has occurred.
Yesterday they called the web hosting company and expressed a desire to change the direction of the club. Last night against all the rules, bylaws, etc.
they had a impromptu BOD meeting ( without us) and essentially have started acoup to take over the club.
The website host company as a matter of policy and to protect the content of the website learned of this, thankfully preserving my 600+ hours of work)
and disabled the website to keep them from destroying it and changing it , erasing everything that I have built.
As you can imagine, Mike Burnett, Laurie Basile and I are beside ourselves at this turn of events.
The first thing a third world dictator or anarchist does when taking over a government ( but a car club,? it seems so stupid doesn't it) is to disable the communications.
You are going to be sent a survey this morning, it has biu one question.
Do you want me to fight and give you the club that you deserve, to continue these improvements and finish dragging us out of the 80's and into the 21st century?
or
Do you want us, Mike Burnett, Laurie Basile and I to just give up and let the weak have the club and be at the continued direction of this very, very small group* of haters and bullies letting
the club revert back to the way it was for the last 20 years?
You know I love a fight, you know I love to stand up to bullies, so do not worry about us, we can handle it if that is what you want.
* It should be noted that Rob D'Orazio attempted to have his small 30 member Chapter leave POCA last month and could not even manage to convince his own club to follow him.
If you indicate a fight, look for it to be epic. If you wish to return to the past, the three of us will resign ( as soon as Bob reid reimburses the $7,000 I am owed by the club for the new cards,
New POCA store items,and other expenses)
I await the results of the survey, I apologize this has happened and I hope that you will indicate in strong numbers your displeasure at the actions of 10 people over the rest of us ( 857 ).
Thank you,
Michael Shortt
STILL President
POCA -- Michael L. Shortt Savannah, Georgia [4]michael@michaelshortt.com 912-232-9390
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On Jul 22, 2016, at 9:37 AM, Scott Couchman via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
I support the POCA Board of Directors.
On Jul 22, 2016, at 6:11 AM, Michael Shortt <[1]michaelsavga@gmail.com> wrote:
My Fellow POCA Members,
It is with deep regret that I must inform you of improprieties within your club which has resulted in the suspension of the [2]POCA.Com website.
Most of you know that I have personally been the target of attacks since before assuming office as the President of POCA last Jan 1st.
It has been an incessant, organized and relentless campaign staged by a small handful of members resistant to change. I will name them
below, but first a little history so that you know where my motivation comes from and why I thought I could make a difference, I will be brief.
This club over the past two decades has hovered in the 700-800 member range, without fail, the club has attracted 30-60 new members each year
and lost an equal number, some years, like in 2014/15, losing over 150 members. Growth has never been possible because member retention
and member recruitment has ever been a priority. If your expenses and dues remain flat and new blood is not required, it just means that you
basically have a stagnant and aging membership (like any older community church).
That is what POCA had, and a membership with over 60 % of it's members over 60, and 20% over 70.
Expenses have grown unchecked and the club spends more money than it take in. It also was dated with no updates in well over a decade.
I saw all of this and thought with my particular skill sets I could make a difference. I immediately set about an agenda with 27 items and was told that I would never
get half of that done in my full two year term, I did all of it in 5 months with the then current support of a progressive BOD.
Meanwhile, the person whom I defeated for President ( 77% - 23%) Rob D'Orazio, Larry Finch, Asa Jay Laughton, and others, most recently Gil Mares have
beleaguered me 24/7 with email, false accusations, lies, technical BS and simply mean and hateful emails. When the poca email forum was disabled to
make room for the new and improved [3]poca.com ( which I built and designed after asking for help form these same people and none volunteered ), they went out
with Kurt Byrnes and created another email forum which is the most vile and disgusting, most toxic email list you could ever hope to not be apart of and it's primary
purpose has been to slander, libel, lie, and create dissension within POCA. None of those named so far have contributed anything to the club while I have been President
except hate and I was lucky enough to be their primary target, No worries,
as many of you know, I work in show biz and politics, so i'm used to professional haters,
a few amateurs didn't really affect me and the club has flourished. The first list that was supplied to me of members after 3 months of begging showed 808
POCA members, after culling out those who were deceased or expired that number of active, PAID POCA members was 718 active members.
This club spent $6,000 last year sending publications to the dead and those not paying dues.
As of yesterday, that number is now 867 active paid members. Many of the deadbeats paid up and we have added over 100 NEW members.
A part of that effort resulted in the resignations of Jack DeRyke as Newsletter editor and Mike Haney as Profiles editor because I was finally able to get the BOD
to listen to reason and change printers, we have been robbed by 10 years, paying $100,000 more for Black and White printing than FULL COLOR printing would cost.
It is rumoured that there was more to that than I can confirm, but the result was without using THAT printer,, they stopped working.
Josette D'Orazio resigned as POCA store manager after 2.5 years of service while selling 166 orders., she said that my vision of an expanded store (revenue producing )was not
what she wanted to do and did not want to do the extra work as required. I understand and it was a nice parting.
Why the emphasis on Money, the club runs on money, Printing alone was 17% more than all of our dues.
The fun rally was supposed to make money, but they spent $20,205 on booze over 3 days, $47,000 in gross revenue and the club retained $1,600,
I will not bore you with a detailed list of improvements, but there have been many, suffice it to say, the club has seen more new and different in the last 7 months than in the past 20 years.
That was my goal and it was done while under constant attack. Most recently, worrying about the name of the forming "Southern Pride Panteras" chapter as being inappropriate
( clearly not knowing a large group of big cats is called a Pride, usually Lions, esp since Tigers, Leopards and Panthers are unlikely to gather in groups). Then it was us bring Tom Tjarrda
here to represent the club on the national stage ( while we still can have him with us) and so many other ridiculous things that were truly none of their business, all while recruiting no members and
contributing nothing positive to the club.
WHY The website is down
over the last month, the miscreants finally realized I was immune to their nonsense and just carried on doing what needed to be done to create a better POCA Membership Experience,
value added if you will, for each of you.
S so they changed focus and begin attacking John Buckman, Joe Stockett and Ed Mendez, all fine gentlemen and a solid part of the fist 6 months of progress we made. I certainly could not have
done anything with their support.
Yet, they are not me, Larry Finch and Gil Mares specifically ( the same man who spent $1,200 of club money as a part of the Fun Rally committee to travel to Las Vegas earlier this year and then
quit the committee leaving us in the lurch to name replacements in March for the event in May ) browbeat John, Joe and Ed to such a degree, the following has occurred.
Yesterday they called the web hosting company and expressed a desire to change the direction of the club. Last night against all the rules, bylaws, etc.
they had a impromptu BOD meeting ( without us) and essentially have started acoup to take over the club.
The website host company as a matter of policy and to protect the content of the website learned of this, thankfully preserving my 600+ hours of work)
and disabled the website to keep them from destroying it and changing it , erasing everything that I have built.
As you can imagine, Mike Burnett, Laurie Basile and I are beside ourselves at this turn of events.
The first thing a third world dictator or anarchist does when taking over a government ( but a car club,? it seems so stupid doesn't it) is to disable the communications.
You are going to be sent a survey this morning, it has biu one question.
Do you want me to fight and give you the club that you deserve, to continue these improvements and finish dragging us out of the 80's and into the 21st century?
or
Do you want us, Mike Burnett, Laurie Basile and I to just give up and let the weak have the club and be at the continued direction of this very, very small group* of haters and bullies letting
the club revert back to the way it was for the last 20 years?
You know I love a fight, you know I love to stand up to bullies, so do not worry about us, we can handle it if that is what you want.
* It should be noted that Rob D'Orazio attempted to have his small 30 member Chapter leave POCA last month and could not even manage to convince his own club to follow him.
If you indicate a fight, look for it to be epic. If you wish to return to the past, the three of us will resign ( as soon as Bob reid reimburses the $7,000 I am owed by the club for the new cards,
New POCA store items,and other expenses)
I await the results of the survey, I apologize this has happened and I hope that you will indicate in strong numbers your displeasure at the actions of 10 people over the rest of us ( 857 ).
Thank you,
Michael Shortt
STILL President
POCA -- Michael L. Shortt Savannah, Georgia [4]michael@michaelshortt.com 912-232-9390
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It's curious that some people (myself included) were not included on the original email distribution (and I am a current POCA member). As I understand it, the survey was attached to Mr. Shortt's original email. -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Gpd4 Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 8:19 AM To: Scott Couchman Cc: Michael Shortt; detomaso@detomasolist.com; Mike Burnett Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7) How will this survey be received? GPD4 Sent from my iPhone the links above.
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The survey came in a separate message after MS message.
22 juli 2016 kl. 22:50 skrev Scott Mead Photography <scott@scottmeadphotography.com>:
It's curious that some people (myself included) were not included on the original email distribution (and I am a current POCA member). As I understand it, the survey was attached to Mr. Shortt's original email.
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Gpd4 Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 8:19 AM To: Scott Couchman Cc: Michael Shortt; detomaso@detomasolist.com; Mike Burnett Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
How will this survey be received?
GPD4 Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 22, 2016, at 9:37 AM, Scott Couchman via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
I support the POCA Board of Directors.
On Jul 22, 2016, at 6:11 AM, Michael Shortt <[1]michaelsavga@gmail.com> wrote:
My Fellow POCA Members,
It is with deep regret that I must inform you of improprieties within your club which has resulted in the suspension of the [2]POCA.Com website.
Most of you know that I have personally been the target of attacks since before assuming office as the President of POCA last Jan 1st.
It has been an incessant, organized and relentless campaign staged by a small handful of members resistant to change. I will name them
below, but first a little history so that you know where my motivation comes from and why I thought I could make a difference, I will be brief.
This club over the past two decades has hovered in the 700-800 member range, without fail, the club has attracted 30-60 new members each year
and lost an equal number, some years, like in 2014/15, losing over 150 members. Growth has never been possible because member retention
and member recruitment has ever been a priority. If your expenses and dues remain flat and new blood is not required, it just means that you
basically have a stagnant and aging membership (like any older community church).
That is what POCA had, and a membership with over 60 % of it's members over 60, and 20% over 70.
Expenses have grown unchecked and the club spends more money than it take in. It also was dated with no updates in well over a decade.
I saw all of this and thought with my particular skill sets I could make a difference. I immediately set about an agenda with 27 items and was told that I would never
get half of that done in my full two year term, I did all of it in 5 months with the then current support of a progressive BOD.
Meanwhile, the person whom I defeated for President ( 77% - 23%) Rob D'Orazio, Larry Finch, Asa Jay Laughton, and others, most recently Gil Mares have
beleaguered me 24/7 with email, false accusations, lies, technical BS and simply mean and hateful emails. When the poca email forum was disabled to
make room for the new and improved [3]poca.com ( which I built and designed after asking for help form these same people and none volunteered ), they went out
with Kurt Byrnes and created another email forum which is the most vile and disgusting, most toxic email list you could ever hope to not be apart of and it's primary
purpose has been to slander, libel, lie, and create dissension within POCA. None of those named so far have contributed anything to the club while I have been President
except hate and I was lucky enough to be their primary target, No worries,
as many of you know, I work in show biz and politics, so i'm used to professional haters,
a few amateurs didn't really affect me and the club has flourished. The first list that was supplied to me of members after 3 months of begging showed 808
POCA members, after culling out those who were deceased or expired that number of active, PAID POCA members was 718 active members.
This club spent $6,000 last year sending publications to the dead and those not paying dues.
As of yesterday, that number is now 867 active paid members. Many of the deadbeats paid up and we have added over 100 NEW members.
A part of that effort resulted in the resignations of Jack DeRyke as Newsletter editor and Mike Haney as Profiles editor because I was finally able to get the BOD
to listen to reason and change printers, we have been robbed by 10 years, paying $100,000 more for Black and White printing than FULL COLOR printing would cost.
It is rumoured that there was more to that than I can confirm, but the result was without using THAT printer,, they stopped working.
Josette D'Orazio resigned as POCA store manager after 2.5 years of service while selling 166 orders., she said that my vision of an expanded store (revenue producing )was not
what she wanted to do and did not want to do the extra work as required. I understand and it was a nice parting.
Why the emphasis on Money, the club runs on money, Printing alone was 17% more than all of our dues.
The fun rally was supposed to make money, but they spent $20,205 on booze over 3 days, $47,000 in gross revenue and the club retained $1,600,
I will not bore you with a detailed list of improvements, but there have been many, suffice it to say, the club has seen more new and different in the last 7 months than in the past 20 years.
That was my goal and it was done while under constant attack. Most recently, worrying about the name of the forming "Southern Pride Panteras" chapter as being inappropriate
( clearly not knowing a large group of big cats is called a Pride, usually Lions, esp since Tigers, Leopards and Panthers are unlikely to gather in groups). Then it was us bring Tom Tjarrda
here to represent the club on the national stage ( while we still can have him with us) and so many other ridiculous things that were truly none of their business, all while recruiting no members and
contributing nothing positive to the club.
WHY The website is down
over the last month, the miscreants finally realized I was immune to their nonsense and just carried on doing what needed to be done to create a better POCA Membership Experience,
value added if you will, for each of you.
S so they changed focus and begin attacking John Buckman, Joe Stockett and Ed Mendez, all fine gentlemen and a solid part of the fist 6 months of progress we made. I certainly could not have
done anything with their support.
Yet, they are not me, Larry Finch and Gil Mares specifically ( the same man who spent $1,200 of club money as a part of the Fun Rally committee to travel to Las Vegas earlier this year and then
quit the committee leaving us in the lurch to name replacements in March for the event in May ) browbeat John, Joe and Ed to such a degree, the following has occurred.
Yesterday they called the web hosting company and expressed a desire to change the direction of the club. Last night against all the rules, bylaws, etc.
they had a impromptu BOD meeting ( without us) and essentially have started acoup to take over the club.
The website host company as a matter of policy and to protect the content of the website learned of this, thankfully preserving my 600+ hours of work)
and disabled the website to keep them from destroying it and changing it , erasing everything that I have built.
As you can imagine, Mike Burnett, Laurie Basile and I are beside ourselves at this turn of events.
The first thing a third world dictator or anarchist does when taking over a government ( but a car club,? it seems so stupid doesn't it) is to disable the communications.
You are going to be sent a survey this morning, it has biu one question.
Do you want me to fight and give you the club that you deserve, to continue these improvements and finish dragging us out of the 80's and into the 21st century?
or
Do you want us, Mike Burnett, Laurie Basile and I to just give up and let the weak have the club and be at the continued direction of this very, very small group* of haters and bullies letting
the club revert back to the way it was for the last 20 years?
You know I love a fight, you know I love to stand up to bullies, so do not worry about us, we can handle it if that is what you want.
* It should be noted that Rob D'Orazio attempted to have his small 30 member Chapter leave POCA last month and could not even manage to convince his own club to follow him.
If you indicate a fight, look for it to be epic. If you wish to return to the past, the three of us will resign ( as soon as Bob reid reimburses the $7,000 I am owed by the club for the new cards,
New POCA store items,and other expenses)
I await the results of the survey, I apologize this has happened and I hope that you will indicate in strong numbers your displeasure at the actions of 10 people over the rest of us ( 857 ).
Thank you,
Michael Shortt
STILL President
POCA -- Michael L. Shortt Savannah, Georgia [4]michael@michaelshortt.com 912-232-9390
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Hey all, While we wait for more of the professionally produced videos of the Fun Rally to come out, I'd like to remind folks of the upcoming Sandhills Open Road Challenge, and Silver State Classic Challenge. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ3MGZFYjz8 These open road races are a cinch to run in the touring class. You need a solid car, good bearings and brakes, no leaks, seat belts and an SA2010 or newer Automotive helmet (no motorcycle helmets allowed). You must have V-rated or better tires (note: SSCC tech will not pass factory spec speed rating for tires on the Pantera; yes, that's in contrast to what the rulebook says; long story but you MUST have V-rated or better). Although Sandhills has already filled up and Team Pantera Racing expects at least three Panteras to be there, the Silver State Classic Challenge still has room for plenty more. Last year we had three Panteras run SSCC, but even better, Bob "Rowdy" Radefeld from TPR Central Division managed to get FOUR at SORC. 90 miles of open road with no traffic await you at the Silver State Classic Challenge. 90 miles at 110 MPH takes about 50 minutes. When was the last time you could run your Pantera at 110 MPH for darn near an hour? For more information and links to the various open road races, please visit the Team Pantera Racing web site at: http://www.teampanteraracing.com Enjoy the video. :) Asa Jay Team Pantera Racing We specialize in Open Road -- Asa Jay Laughton - sent from somewhere other than home ****************************************************** http://www.w7tsc.org http://www.teampanteraracing.com
Just a few comments: Tires not older then 5 years. SA2005 helmets are allowed out 2016 season for the SSCC. See you guys at the race in Ely, AJ :-) Cheers Bjoern
Den 22. jul. 2016 kl. 23.29 skrev Asa Jay Laughton <asajay@asajay.com>:
Hey all, While we wait for more of the professionally produced videos of the Fun Rally to come out, I'd like to remind folks of the upcoming Sandhills Open Road Challenge, and Silver State Classic Challenge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ3MGZFYjz8
These open road races are a cinch to run in the touring class. You need a solid car, good bearings and brakes, no leaks, seat belts and an SA2010 or newer Automotive helmet (no motorcycle helmets allowed). You must have V-rated or better tires (note: SSCC tech will not pass factory spec speed rating for tires on the Pantera; yes, that's in contrast to what the rulebook says; long story but you MUST have V-rated or better).
Although Sandhills has already filled up and Team Pantera Racing expects at least three Panteras to be there, the Silver State Classic Challenge still has room for plenty more. Last year we had three Panteras run SSCC, but even better, Bob "Rowdy" Radefeld from TPR Central Division managed to get FOUR at SORC.
90 miles of open road with no traffic await you at the Silver State Classic Challenge. 90 miles at 110 MPH takes about 50 minutes.
When was the last time you could run your Pantera at 110 MPH for darn near an hour?
For more information and links to the various open road races, please visit the Team Pantera Racing web site at: http://www.teampanteraracing.com
Enjoy the video. :)
Asa Jay Team Pantera Racing We specialize in Open Road
-- Asa Jay Laughton - sent from somewhere other than home ****************************************************** http://www.w7tsc.org http://www.teampanteraracing.com
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