All, The BAT red wrecked Pantera was Joe Seifert’s, sideswiped back around August 2023. I communicated with Joe as I had, and still do have, the remnants of the Front Clip used to repair 2511. Joe was very attached to the car and wanted to save it, but apparently things did not work in that direction. Larry. Sent from me using a magic, handheld electronic gizmo.