Were gas tanks mounted on the passenger side from the factory?
I came across this photo advertised as a 1970 pic outside of Ghia. It shows a Pre-L (not a push button) with left-hand drive and a petrol fill cap on the passenger side. Also, are those front hood tie down straps on either end by the cowling? Were those rims around in 1970? https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=http://picclick.ca/Old-Large-Historic-Photo-Of-1970-Detomaso-Pantera-291851152929.html&ct=ga&cd=CAEYCSoUMTMxODY0OTk3MDQyMzE3MzU1MjUyGjg4MWVlMWNjYTQ4NGU2NDA6Y29tOmVuOlVT&usg=AFQjCNFe9vWIh5JaA12Pi5CpFL1lPhlJOg I came across this photo advertised as a 1970 pic outside of Ghia. It shows a Pre-L (not a push button) with left-hand drive and a petrol fill cap on the passenger side.A Also, are those front hood tie down straps on either end by the cowling?A Were those rims around in 1970? [1]https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=http://picclick.ca/Old-Lar ge-Historic-Photo-Of-1970-Detomaso-Pantera-291851152929.html&ct=ga&cd=C AEYCSoUMTMxODY0OTk3MDQyMzE3MzU1MjUyGjg4MWVlMWNjYTQ4NGU2NDA6Y29tOmVuOlVT &usg=AFQjCNFe9vWIh5JaA12Pi5CpFL1lPhlJOg References 1. https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=http://picclick.ca/Old-Large-Historic-Photo-Of-1970-Detomaso-Pantera-291851152929.html&ct=ga&cd=CAEYCSoUMTMxODY0OTk3MDQyMzE3MzU1MjUyGjg4MWVlMWNjYTQ4NGU2NDA6Y29tOmVuOlVT&usg=AFQjCNFe9vWIh5JaA12Pi5CpFL1lPhlJOg
I'd be surprised if that photo were really from 1970, as it's a Group 4 car. 10 and 15" rims, sliding plastic side windows, hood tie downs, as you state, etc. These came out well after the pushbuttons, and well after 1970 methinks On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Rob Dumoulin <rob@dumoulins.net> wrote:
I came across this photo advertised as a 1970 pic outside of Ghia. It shows a Pre-L (not a push button) with left-hand drive and a petrol fill cap on the passenger side.A Also, are those front hood tie down straps on either end by the cowling?A Were those rims around in 1970? [1]https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=http://picclick.ca/Old-Lar ge-Historic-Photo-Of-1970-Detomaso-Pantera-291851152929.html&ct=ga&cd=C AEYCSoUMTMxODY0OTk3MDQyMzE3MzU1MjUyGjg4MWVlMWNjYTQ4NGU2NDA6Y29tOmVuOlVT &usg=AFQjCNFe9vWIh5JaA12Pi5CpFL1lPhlJOg
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I'd be surprised if that photo were really from 1970, as it's a Group 4 car. 10 and 15" rims, sliding plastic side windows, hood tie downs, as you state, etc. These came out well after the pushbuttons, and well after 1970 methinksA On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Rob Dumoulin <[1]rob@dumoulins.net> wrote: A A I came across this photo advertised as a 1970 pic outside of Ghia. It A A shows a Pre-L (not a push button) with left-hand drive and a petrol A A fill cap on the passenger side.AA Also, are those front hood tie down A A straps on either end by the cowling?AA Were those rims around in 1970? A A [1][2]https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=http:// picclick.ca/Old-Lar A A ge-Historic-Photo-Of-1970-Detomaso-Pantera-291851152929. html&ct=ga&cd=C A A AEYCSoUMTMxODY0OTk3MDQyMzE3MzU1MjUyGjg4MWVlMWNjYTQ4NGU2NDA6Y 29tOmVuOlVT A A &usg=AFQjCNFe9vWIh5JaA12Pi5CpFL1lPhlJOg References A A 1. [3]https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=http:// picclick.ca/Old-Large-Historic-Photo-Of-1970- Detomaso-Pantera-291851152929.html&ct=ga&cd= CAEYCSoUMTMxODY0OTk3MDQyMzE3MzU1MjUyGjg4MWVlMWNjYTQ4NGU2NDA6 Y29tOmVuOlVT&usg=AFQjCNFe9vWIh5JaA12Pi5CpFL1lPhlJOg _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [4]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [5]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. mailto:rob@dumoulins.net 2. https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=http://picclick.ca/Old-Lar 3. https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=http://picclick.ca/Old-Large-Historic-Photo-Of-1970-Detomaso-Pantera-291851152929.html&ct=ga&cd=CAEYCSoUMTMxODY0OTk3MDQyMzE3MzU1MjUyGjg4MWVlMWNjYTQ4NGU2NDA6Y29tOmVuOlVT&usg=AFQjCNFe9vWIh5JaA12Pi5CpFL1lPhlJOg 4. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 5. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
Was there ever a 1970 Pantera?? I have not seen any indication of such. Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! ) From: Charles McCall <charlesmccall@gmail.com> To: Rob Dumoulin <rob@dumoulins.net> Cc: Pantera Mail List <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 7:04 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Were gas tanks mounted on the passenger side from the factory? I'd be surprised if that photo were really from 1970, as it's a Group 4 car. 10 and 15" rims, sliding plastic side windows, hood tie downs, as you state, etc. These came out well after the pushbuttons, and well after 1970 methinksA On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Rob Dumoulin <[1]rob@dumoulins.net> wrote: A A I came across this photo advertised as a 1970 pic outside of Ghia. It A A shows a Pre-L (not a push button) with left-hand drive and a petrol A A fill cap on the passenger side.AA Also, are those front hood tie down A A straps on either end by the cowling?AA Were those rims around in 1970? A A [1][2]https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=http:// picclick.ca/Old-Lar A A ge-Historic-Photo-Of-1970-Detomaso-Pantera-291851152929. html&ct=ga&cd=C A A AEYCSoUMTMxODY0OTk3MDQyMzE3MzU1MjUyGjg4MWVlMWNjYTQ4NGU2NDA6Y 29tOmVuOlVT A A &usg=AFQjCNFe9vWIh5JaA12Pi5CpFL1lPhlJOg References A A 1. 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They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. Was there ever a 1970 Pantera?? I have not seen any indication of such. Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! ) __________________________________________________________________ From: Charles McCall <charlesmccall@gmail.com> To: Rob Dumoulin <rob@dumoulins.net> Cc: Pantera Mail List <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 7:04 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Were gas tanks mounted on the passenger side from the factory? I'd be surprised if that photo were really from 1970, as it's a Group 4 car. 10 and 15" rims, sliding plastic side windows, hood tie downs, as you state, etc. These came out well after the pushbuttons, and well after 1970 methinksA On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Rob Dumoulin <[1][1]rob@dumoulins.net> wrote: A A I came across this photo advertised as a 1970 pic outside of Ghia. It A A shows a Pre-L (not a push button) with left-hand drive and a petrol A A fill cap on the passenger side.AA Also, are those front hood tie down A A straps on either end by the cowling?AA Were those rims around in 1970? A A [1][2][2]https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=http:// picclick.ca/Old-Lar A A ge-Historic-Photo-Of-1970-Detomaso-Pantera-291851152929. html&ct=ga&cd=C A A AEYCSoUMTMxODY0OTk3MDQyMzE3MzU1MjUyGjg4MWVlMWNjYTQ4NGU2NDA6Y 29tOmVuOlVT A A &usg=AFQjCNFe9vWIh5JaA12Pi5CpFL1lPhlJOg References A A 1. 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None were sold as 1970 models, but the car was first shown in Modena in March of 1970, and the NY Auto Show in roughly April, 1970. On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 2:24 PM, B Hower <b.hower3400@yahoo.com> wrote:
Was there ever a 1970 Pantera?? I have not seen any indication of such.
Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! )
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I'd be surprised if that photo were really from 1970, as it's a Group 4 car. 10 and 15" rims, sliding plastic side windows, hood tie downs, as you state, etc. These came out well after the pushbuttons, and well after 1970 methinksA
On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Rob Dumoulin <[1]rob@dumoulins.net> wrote:
A A I came across this photo advertised as a 1970 pic outside of Ghia. It A A shows a Pre-L (not a push button) with left-hand drive and a petrol A A fill cap on the passenger side.AA Also, are those front hood tie down A A straps on either end by the cowling?AA Were those rims around in 1970? A A [1][2]https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=http:// picclick.ca/Old-Lar A A ge-Historic-Photo-Of-1970-Detomaso-Pantera-291851152929. html&ct=ga&cd=C A A AEYCSoUMTMxODY0OTk3MDQyMzE3MzU1MjUyGjg4MWVlMWNjYTQ4NGU2NDA6Y 29tOmVuOlVT A A &usg=AFQjCNFe9vWIh5JaA12Pi5CpFL1lPhlJOg References A A 1. [3]https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=http:// picclick.ca/Old-Large-Historic-Photo-Of-1970- Detomaso-Pantera-291851152929.html&ct=ga&cd= CAEYCSoUMTMxODY0OTk3MDQyMzE3MzU1MjUyGjg4MWVlMWNjYTQ4NGU2NDA6 Y29tOmVuOlVT&usg=AFQjCNFe9vWIh5JaA12Pi5CpFL1lPhlJOg _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [4]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [5]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
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None were sold as 1970 models, but the car was first shown in Modena in March of 1970, and the NY Auto Show in roughly April, 1970.A On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 2:24 PM, B Hower <[1]b.hower3400@yahoo.com> wrote: Was there ever a 1970 Pantera?? I have not seen any indication of such. Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! ) __________________________________________________________________ From: Charles McCall <[2]charlesmccall@gmail.com> To: Rob Dumoulin <[3]rob@dumoulins.net> Cc: Pantera Mail List <[4]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 7:04 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Were gas tanks mounted on the passenger side from the factory? A I'd be surprised if that photo were really from 1970, as it's a Group 4 A car. 10 and 15" rims, sliding plastic side windows, hood tie downs, as A you state, etc. These came out well after the pushbuttons, and well A after 1970 methinksA A On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Rob Dumoulin <[1][5]rob@dumoulins.net> A wrote: A A AA A I came across this photo advertised as a 1970 pic outside of A A Ghia. It A A AA A shows a Pre-L (not a push button) with left-hand drive and a A A petrol A A AA A fill cap on the passenger side.AAA Also, are those front hood A A tie down A A AA A straps on either end by the cowling?AAA Were those rims around A A in 1970? A A AA A [1][2][6]https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=http:// A A [7]picclick.ca/Old-Lar A A AA A ge-Historic-Photo-Of-1970-Detomaso-Pantera-291851152929. A A html&ct=ga&cd=C A A AA A AEYCSoUMTMxODY0OTk3MDQyMzE3MzU 1MjUyGjg4MWVlMWNjYTQ4NGU2NDA6Y A A 29tOmVuOlVT A A AA A &usg=AFQjCNFe9vWIh5JaA12Pi5CpFL1lPhlJOg A A References A A AA A 1. [3][8]https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=http:// A A [9]picclick.ca/Old-Large-Historic-Photo-Of-1970- A A Detomaso-Pantera-291851152929.html&ct=ga&cd= A A CAEYCSoUMTMxODY0OTk3MDQyMzE3MzU1MjUyGjg4MWVlMWNjYTQ4NGU2NDA6 A A Y29tOmVuOlVT&usg=AFQjCNFe9vWIh5JaA12Pi5CpFL1lPhlJOg A A _______________________________________________ A A Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA A A Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes A A DeTomaso mailing list A A [4][10]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com A A [5][11]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso A A To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, A A etc.) use the links above. A A Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward A A any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of A A the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an A A archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References A 1. mailto:[12]rob@dumoulins.net A 2. [13]https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=http:// picclick.ca/Old-Lar A 3. [14]https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=http:// picclick.ca/Old-Large-Historic-Photo-Of-1970- Detomaso-Pantera-291851152929.html&ct=ga&cd= CAEYCSoUMTMxODY0OTk3MDQyMzE3MzU1MjUyGjg4MWVlMWNjYTQ4NGU2NDA6 Y29tOmVuOlVT&usg=AFQjCNFe9vWIh5JaA12Pi5CpFL1lPhlJOg A 4. mailto:[15]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com A 5. [16]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [17]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [18]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. mailto:b.hower3400@yahoo.com 2. mailto:charlesmccall@gmail.com 3. mailto:rob@dumoulins.net 4. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 5. mailto:rob@dumoulins.net 6. https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=http:// 7. http://picclick.ca/Old-Lar 8. https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=http:// 9. http://picclick.ca/Old-Large-Historic-Photo-Of-1970- 10. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 11. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 12. mailto:rob@dumoulins.net 13. https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=http://picclick.ca/Old-Lar 14. https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=http://picclick.ca/Old-Large-Historic-Photo-Of-1970-Detomaso-Pantera-291851152929.html&ct=ga&cd=CAEYCSoUMTMxODY0OTk3MDQyMzE3MzU1MjUyGjg4MWVlMWNjYTQ4NGU2NDA6Y29tOmVuOlVT&usg=AFQjCNFe9vWIh5JaA12Pi5CpFL1lPhlJOg 15. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 16. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 17. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 18. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
Thanks Charles, Good information for me. Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! ) From: Charles McCall <charlesmccall@gmail.com> To: B Hower <b.hower3400@yahoo.com> Cc: Rob Dumoulin <rob@dumoulins.net>; Pantera Mail List <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 8:31 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Were gas tanks mounted on the passenger side from the factory? None were sold as 1970 models, but the car was first shown in Modena in March of 1970, and the NY Auto Show in roughly April, 1970. On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 2:24 PM, B Hower <b.hower3400@yahoo.com> wrote: Was there ever a 1970 Pantera?? I have not seen any indication of such. Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! ) From: Charles McCall <charlesmccall@gmail.com> To: Rob Dumoulin <rob@dumoulins.net> Cc: Pantera Mail List <detomaso@server.detomasolist. com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 7:04 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Were gas tanks mounted on the passenger side from the factory? I'd be surprised if that photo were really from 1970, as it's a Group 4 car. 10 and 15" rims, sliding plastic side windows, hood tie downs, as you state, etc. These came out well after the pushbuttons, and well after 1970 methinksA On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Rob Dumoulin <[1]rob@dumoulins.net> wrote: A A I came across this photo advertised as a 1970 pic outside of Ghia. It A A shows a Pre-L (not a push button) with left-hand drive and a petrol A A fill cap on the passenger side.AA Also, are those front hood tie down A A straps on either end by the cowling?AA Were those rims around in 1970? 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They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. Thanks Charles, Good information for me. Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! ) __________________________________________________________________ From: Charles McCall <charlesmccall@gmail.com> To: B Hower <b.hower3400@yahoo.com> Cc: Rob Dumoulin <rob@dumoulins.net>; Pantera Mail List <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 8:31 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Were gas tanks mounted on the passenger side from the factory? None were sold as 1970 models, but the car was first shown in Modena in March of 1970, and the NY Auto Show in roughly April, 1970. On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 2:24 PM, B Hower <[1]b.hower3400@yahoo.com> wrote: Was there ever a 1970 Pantera?? I have not seen any indication of such. Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! ) __________________________________________________________________ From: Charles McCall <[2]charlesmccall@gmail.com> To: Rob Dumoulin <[3]rob@dumoulins.net> Cc: Pantera Mail List <[4]detomaso@server.detomasolist. com> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 7:04 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Were gas tanks mounted on the passenger side from the factory? I'd be surprised if that photo were really from 1970, as it's a Group 4 car. 10 and 15" rims, sliding plastic side windows, hood tie downs, as you state, etc. These came out well after the pushbuttons, and well after 1970 methinksA On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Rob Dumoulin <[1][5]rob@dumoulins.net> wrote: A A I came across this photo advertised as a 1970 pic outside of Ghia. 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Yes too modern of a car for an old photo. People just making up things to sell....but not to us :) Larry (looks old too) - Cleveland -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Charles McCall Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 8:05 AM To: Rob Dumoulin Cc: Pantera Mail List Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Were gas tanks mounted on the passenger side fromthe factory? I'd be surprised if that photo were really from 1970, as it's a Group 4 car. 10 and 15" rims, sliding plastic side windows, hood tie downs, as you state, etc. These came out well after the pushbuttons, and well after 1970 methinks On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Rob Dumoulin <rob@dumoulins.net> wrote:
I came across this photo advertised as a 1970 pic outside of Ghia. It shows a Pre-L (not a push button) with left-hand drive and a petrol fill cap on the passenger side.A Also, are those front hood tie down straps on either end by the cowling?A Were those rims around in 1970? [1]https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=http://picclick.ca/Old-Lar ge-Historic-Photo-Of-1970-Detomaso-Pantera-291851152929.html&ct=ga&cd=C AEYCSoUMTMxODY0OTk3MDQyMzE3MzU1MjUyGjg4MWVlMWNjYTQ4NGU2NDA6Y29tOmVuOlVT &usg=AFQjCNFe9vWIh5JaA12Pi5CpFL1lPhlJOg
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More than likely the caption should be "1970's", thus implying anywhere from 1969 to 1981. Hard to hold a vendor to a high level of accuracy for one car when they deal with hundreds of different brand items. I especially notice that when values are expresses as x's, in real estate a property listed as "in the $100,000's" really means a $200,000 asking price. -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Larry - Ohio Time Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 9:42 AM To: 'Charles McCall'; 'Rob Dumoulin' Cc: 'Pantera Mail List' Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Were gas tanks mounted on the passenger side fromthe factory? Yes too modern of a car for an old photo. People just making up things to sell....but not to us :) Larry (looks old too) - Cleveland -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Charles McCall Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 8:05 AM To: Rob Dumoulin Cc: Pantera Mail List Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Were gas tanks mounted on the passenger side fromthe factory? I'd be surprised if that photo were really from 1970, as it's a Group 4 car. 10 and 15" rims, sliding plastic side windows, hood tie downs, as you state, etc. These came out well after the pushbuttons, and well after 1970 methinks On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Rob Dumoulin <rob@dumoulins.net> wrote:
I came across this photo advertised as a 1970 pic outside of Ghia. It shows a Pre-L (not a push button) with left-hand drive and a petrol fill cap on the passenger side.A Also, are those front hood tie down straps on either end by the cowling?A Were those rims around in 1970? [1]https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=http://picclick.ca/Old-Lar ge-Historic-Photo-Of-1970-Detomaso-Pantera-291851152929.html&ct=ga&cd=C AEYCSoUMTMxODY0OTk3MDQyMzE3MzU1MjUyGjg4MWVlMWNjYTQ4NGU2NDA6Y29tOmVuOlVT &usg=AFQjCNFe9vWIh5JaA12Pi5CpFL1lPhlJOg
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That's a late 1971 photo of a 1972 factory Gr4 or GT/4 race Pantera. Totally different animal from the street cars.... Mike Sent from my iPhone On Aug 23, 2016, at 4:39, Rob Dumoulin <rob@dumoulins.net> wrote:
I came across this photo advertised as a 1970 pic outside of Ghia. It shows a Pre-L (not a push button) with left-hand drive and a petrol fill cap on the passenger side.A Also, are those front hood tie down straps on either end by the cowling?A Were those rims around in 1970? [1]https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=http://picclick.ca/Old-Lar ge-Historic-Photo-Of-1970-Detomaso-Pantera-291851152929.html&ct=ga&cd=C AEYCSoUMTMxODY0OTk3MDQyMzE3MzU1MjUyGjg4MWVlMWNjYTQ4NGU2NDA6Y29tOmVuOlVT &usg=AFQjCNFe9vWIh5JaA12Pi5CpFL1lPhlJOg
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Rob Dumoulin