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I really have to add to the Forest and Goergene stories. For several years it seemed that Carol and I, Ken and Nancy Ridley, and Jim Wallace had our own rooms in the Majors house. We would meet there for a weekend of fun and food and a car show in their back yard. Ironically I first met Forest on a bus on the 17 Mile Drive at Pebble Beach. Wonderful people, as are most Pantera folks. Bob Reid In a message dated 6/9/2016 2:26:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, detomaso@server.detomasolist.com writes: Guys... Ok here is only one of my Forest stories and I have plenty....I bought an RX-7 and it needed a transmission, took the car to Forest's house to use the lift to take the car apart (see picture attached with car, Forest and Georgene) we pulled the tranny and he shipped down to Ole Saybrook to have it rebuilt. They he went and picked it back up again for me as the car sat on his lift for two weeks. We must have pulled that tranny about three more time over the next year and a half. Can't tell you how many time I stayed at the house over the weekend to work on my car. The nicest people you can ever have in your stable (Same for Mark Skwarek aka the professor "TPR") Jim From: Gray Gregory <rgg@gregorycook.com> To: Charles McCall <charlesmccall@gmail.com>; "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because of This List (many moons ago) Charlie, I remember all those events, or at least your emails to the list about them back then. I also remember Forest Majors; absolutely one of the finest people you could ever hope to meet! My Forest story is somewhat similar. Back about that same time frame I signed up for a vintage car rally in New England with an old Ferrari I had at the time. Forest (who I had never met in person either) sent me an email offer any help I might need with the logistics of dropping my car off or getting it picked back up etc. Long story short not only did I have the car shipped to Forests house where he kindly stored it in the barn he was also gracious enough to pick me up from the airport, put me up in his guest room and he even had a back yard New England lobster boil with some of the local car guys to welcome the Texan to town. I ended up doing that rally for 3 or 4 years in a row and staying with Forest and Georgene became a tradition each year I ran it. Thanks for the memories, Gray -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Charles McCall Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 9:09 AM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because of This List (many moons ago) This morning I posted on Facebook a flashback from 1997 or 1998 - see attached photo. It's a picture of my first Pantera parked on the streets of Paris with US plates on the back and the Eiffel Tower in the background. Thanks to Mike Drew for convincing me to have an adventure in my Pantera and ship it, as this decision opened up a whole world to me and helped define my philosophy for the next decades... The number of adventures I've had since then in a Pantera... At the time, I had recently been transferred to France, and flew back to the US to put my former '72 Pantera on a boat to ship it over (See article in 1999 POCA Profiles about shipping a Pantera to France for what was supposed to be a 6-month assignment...) While driving the car from Collector's Choice in Wisconsin to NY and the ship, it developed an engine problem. I was stranded on the NYS Thruway and ended up having the car towed to my parents' house in Syracuse, NY. Long story made short - I already had my return airline ticket, and had to leave the car behind. A local garage found that the problem was the dreaded distributor shear pin that had, well, sheared, and left me stranded. Forest Majors - who I had never met (and still haven't!) but had gotten to know thanks to the e-mail fórum sent me a note out of the blue asking how he could help. I had a friend drive my car shipped to his house in CT, where Forest was kind enough to fix some minor things that he noticed along the way that were quite helpful, and stored the car for me until it could be delivered to the port. If I remember correctly, he even pulled a few parts off a spare Pantera he had to help me be on my way. People I had never met in person - Mike Drew and Forest Majors - who each did a good deed for someone they didn't know personally either but had come to "know" virtually, asking for nothing in return. I still see a lot of that spirit on this list today, which is no doubt one reason for its success. Thanks to all who make it so! _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. Guys... Ok here is only one of my Forest stories and I have plenty....I bought an RX-7 and it needed a transmission, took the car to Forest's house to use the lift to take the car apart (see picture attached with car, Forest and Georgene) we pulled the tranny and he shipped down to Ole Saybrook to have it rebuilt. They he went and picked it back up again for me as the car sat on his lift for two weeks. We must have pulled that tranny about three more time over the next year and a half. Can't tell you how many time I stayed at the house over the weekend to work on my car. The nicest people you can ever have in your stable (Same for Mark Skwarek aka the professor "TPR") Jim __________________________________________________________________ From: Gray Gregory <rgg@gregorycook.com> To: Charles McCall <charlesmccall@gmail.com>; "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because of This List (many moons ago) Charlie, I remember all those events, or at least your emails to the list about them back then. I also remember Forest Majors; absolutely one of the finest people you could ever hope to meet! My Forest story is somewhat similar. Back about that same time frame I signed up for a vintage car rally in New England with an old Ferrari I had at the time. Forest (who I had never met in person either) sent me an email offer any help I might need with the logistics of dropping my car off or getting it picked back up etc. Long story short not only did I have the car shipped to Forests house where he kindly stored it in the barn he was also gracious enough to pick me up from the airport, put me up in his guest room and he even had a back yard New England lobster boil with some of the local car guys to welcome the Texan to town. I ended up doing that rally for 3 or 4 years in a row and staying with Forest and Georgene became a tradition each year I ran it. Thanks for the memories, Gray -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:[1]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Charles McCall Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 9:09 AM To: [2]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because of This List (many moons ago) This morning I posted on Facebook a flashback from 1997 or 1998 - see attached photo. It's a picture of my first Pantera parked on the streets of Paris with US plates on the back and the Eiffel Tower in the background. Thanks to Mike Drew for convincing me to have an adventure in my Pantera and ship it, as this decision opened up a whole world to me and helped define my philosophy for the next decades... The number of adventures I've had since then in a Pantera... At the time, I had recently been transferred to France, and flew back to the US to put my former '72 Pantera on a boat to ship it over (See article in 1999 POCA Profiles about shipping a Pantera to France for what was supposed to be a 6-month assignment...) While driving the car from Collector's Choice in Wisconsin to NY and the ship, it developed an engine problem. I was stranded on the NYS Thruway and ended up having the car towed to my parents' house in Syracuse, NY. Long story made short - I already had my return airline ticket, and had to leave the car behind. A local garage found that the problem was the dreaded distributor shear pin that had, well, sheared, and left me stranded. Forest Majors - who I had never met (and still haven't!) but had gotten to know thanks to the e-mail fA^3rum sent me a note out of the blue asking how he could help. I had a friend drive my car shipped to his house in CT, where Forest was kind enough to fix some minor things that he noticed along the way that were quite helpful, and stored the car for me until it could be delivered to the port. If I remember correctly, he even pulled a few parts off a spare Pantera he had to help me be on my way. People I had never met in person - Mike Drew and Forest Majors - who each did a good deed for someone they didn't know personally either but had come to "know" virtually, asking for nothing in return. I still see a lot of that spirit on this list today, which is no doubt one reason for its success. Thanks to all who make it so! _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [3]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [4]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 2. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 3. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 4. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. I really have to add to the Forest and Goergene stories. For several years it seemed that Carol and I, Ken and Nancy Ridley, and Jim Wallace had our own rooms in the Majors house. We would meet there for a weekend of fun and food and a car show in their back yard. Ironically I first met Forest on a bus on the 17 Mile Drive at Pebble Beach. Wonderful people, as are most Pantera folks. Bob Reid In a message dated 6/9/2016 2:26:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, detomaso@server.detomasolist.com writes: Guys... Ok here is only one of my Forest stories and I have plenty....I bought an RX-7 and it needed a transmission, took the car to Forest's house to use the lift to take the car apart (see picture attached with car, Forest and Georgene) we pulled the tranny and he shipped down to Ole Saybrook to have it rebuilt. They he went and picked it back up again for me as the car sat on his lift for two weeks. We must have pulled that tranny about three more time over the next year and a half. Can't tell you how many time I stayed at the house over the weekend to work on my car. The nicest people you can ever have in your stable (Same for Mark Skwarek aka the professor "TPR") Jim From: Gray Gregory <rgg@gregorycook.com> To: Charles McCall <charlesmccall@gmail.com>; "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because of This List (many moons ago) Charlie, I remember all those events, or at least your emails to the list about them back then. I also remember Forest Majors; absolutely one of the finest people you could ever hope to meet! My Forest story is somewhat similar. Back about that same time frame I signed up for a vintage car rally in New England with an old Ferrari I had at the time. Forest (who I had never met in person either) sent me an email offer any help I might need with the logistics of dropping my car off or getting it picked back up etc. Long story short not only did I have the car shipped to Forests house where he kindly stored it in the barn he was also gracious enough to pick me up from the airport, put me up in his guest room and he even had a back yard New England lobster boil with some of the local car guys to welcome the Texan to town. I ended up doing that rally for 3 or 4 years in a row and staying with Forest and Georgene became a tradition each year I ran it. Thanks for the memories, Gray -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Charles McCall Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 9:09 AM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because of This List (many moons ago) This morning I posted on Facebook a flashback from 1997 or 1998 - see attached photo. It's a picture of my first Pantera parked on the streets of Paris with US plates on the back and the Eiffel Tower in the background. Thanks to Mike Drew for convincing me to have an adventure in my Pantera and ship it, as this decision opened up a whole world to me and helped define my philosophy for the next decades... The number of adventures I've had since then in a Pantera... At the time, I had recently been transferred to France, and flew back to the US to put my former '72 Pantera on a boat to ship it over (See article in 1999 POCA Profiles about shipping a Pantera to France for what was supposed to be a 6-month assignment...) While driving the car from Collector's Choice in Wisconsin to NY and the ship, it developed an engine problem. I was stranded on the NYS Thruway and ended up having the car towed to my parents' house in Syracuse, NY. Long story made short - I already had my return airline ticket, and had to leave the car behind. A local garage found that the problem was the dreaded distributor shear pin that had, well, sheared, and left me stranded. Forest Majors - who I had never met (and still haven't!) but had gotten to know thanks to the e-mail forum sent me a note out of the blue asking how he could help. I had a friend drive my car shipped to his house in CT, where Forest was kind enough to fix some minor things that he noticed along the way that were quite helpful, and stored the car for me until it could be delivered to the port. If I remember correctly, he even pulled a few parts off a spare Pantera he had to help me be on my way. People I had never met in person - Mike Drew and Forest Majors - who each did a good deed for someone they didn't know personally either but had come to "know" virtually, asking for nothing in return. I still see a lot of that spirit on this list today, which is no doubt one reason for its success. Thanks to all who make it so! _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. Guys... Ok here is only one of my Forest stories and I have plenty....I bought an RX-7 and it needed a transmission, took the car to Forest's house to use the lift to take the car apart (see picture attached with car, Forest and Georgene) we pulled the tranny and he shipped down to Ole Saybrook to have it rebuilt. They he went and picked it back up again for me as the car sat on his lift for two weeks. We must have pulled that tranny about three more time over the next year and a half. Can't tell you how many time I stayed at the house over the weekend to work on my car. The nicest people you can ever have in your stable (Same for Mark Skwarek aka the professor "TPR") Jim __________________________________________________________________ From: Gray Gregory <rgg@gregorycook.com> To: Charles McCall <charlesmccall@gmail.com>; "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because of This List (many moons ago) Charlie, I remember all those events, or at least your emails to the list about them back then. I also remember Forest Majors; absolutely one of the finest people you could ever hope to meet! My Forest story is somewhat similar. Back about that same time frame I signed up for a vintage car rally in New England with an old Ferrari I had at the time. Forest (who I had never met in person either) sent me an email offer any help I might need with the logistics of dropping my car off or getting it picked back up etc. Long story short not only did I have the car shipped to Forests house where he kindly stored it in the barn he was also gracious enough to pick me up from the airport, put me up in his guest room and he even had a back yard New England lobster boil with some of the local car guys to welcome the Texan to town. I ended up doing that rally for 3 or 4 years in a row and staying with Forest and Georgene became a tradition each year I ran it. Thanks for the memories, Gray -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:[1]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Charles McCall Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 9:09 AM To: [2]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because of This List (many moons ago) This morning I posted on Facebook a flashback from 1997 or 1998 - see attached photo. It's a picture of my first Pantera parked on the streets of Paris with US plates on the back and the Eiffel Tower in the background. Thanks to Mike Drew for convincing me to have an adventure in my Pantera and ship it, as this decision opened up a whole world to me and helped define my philosophy for the next decades... The number of adventures I've had since then in a Pantera... At the time, I had recently been transferred to France, and flew back to the US to put my former '72 Pantera on a boat to ship it over (See article in 1999 POCA Profiles about shipping a Pantera to France for what was supposed to be a 6-month assignment...) While driving the car from Collector's Choice in Wisconsin to NY and the ship, it developed an engine problem. I was stranded on the NYS Thruway and ended up having the car towed to my parents' house in Syracuse, NY. Long story made short - I already had my return airline ticket, and had to leave the car behind. A local garage found that the problem was the dreaded distributor shear pin that had, well, sheared, and left me stranded. Forest Majors - who I had never met (and still haven't!) but had gotten to know thanks to the e-mail fA^3rum sent me a note out of the blue asking how he could help. I had a friend drive my car shipped to his house in CT, where Forest was kind enough to fix some minor things that he noticed along the way that were quite helpful, and stored the car for me until it could be delivered to the port. If I remember correctly, he even pulled a few parts off a spare Pantera he had to help me be on my way. People I had never met in person - Mike Drew and Forest Majors - who each did a good deed for someone they didn't know personally either but had come to "know" virtually, asking for nothing in return. I still see a lot of that spirit on this list today, which is no doubt one reason for its success. Thanks to all who make it so! _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [3]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [4]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. 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Isnt this what Pantera ownership and common interests is all about? From: P6746@aol.com [mailto:P6746@aol.com] Sent: jueves, 9 de junio de 2016 21:24 To: pantera_4220@yahoo.com; rgg@gregorycook.com; charlesmccall@gmail.com; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; forest.majors@gmail.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because of This List (ma... I really have to add to the Forest and Goergene stories. For several years it seemed that Carol and I, Ken and Nancy Ridley, and Jim Wallace had our own rooms in the Majors house. We would meet there for a weekend of fun and food and a car show in their back yard. Ironically I first met Forest on a bus on the 17 Mile Drive at Pebble Beach. Wonderful people, as are most Pantera folks. Bob Reid In a message dated 6/9/2016 2:26:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, detomaso@server.detomasolist.com writes: Guys... Ok here is only one of my Forest stories and I have plenty....I bought an RX-7 and it needed a transmission, took the car to Forest's house to use the lift to take the car apart (see picture attached with car, Forest and Georgene) we pulled the tranny and he shipped down to Ole Saybrook to have it rebuilt. They he went and picked it back up again for me as the car sat on his lift for two weeks. We must have pulled that tranny about three more time over the next year and a half. Can't tell you how many time I stayed at the house over the weekend to work on my car. The nicest people you can ever have in your stable (Same for Mark Skwarek aka the professor "TPR") Jim From: Gray Gregory <rgg@gregorycook.com> To: Charles McCall <charlesmccall@gmail.com>; "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because of This List (many moons ago) Charlie, I remember all those events, or at least your emails to the list about them back then. I also remember Forest Majors; absolutely one of the finest people you could ever hope to meet! My Forest story is somewhat similar. Back about that same time frame I signed up for a vintage car rally in New England with an old Ferrari I had at the time. Forest (who I had never met in person either) sent me an email offer any help I might need with the logistics of dropping my car off or getting it picked back up etc. Long story short not only did I have the car shipped to Forests house where he kindly stored it in the barn he was also gracious enough to pick me up from the airport, put me up in his guest room and he even had a back yard New England lobster boil with some of the local car guys to welcome the Texan to town. I ended up doing that rally for 3 or 4 years in a row and staying with Forest and Georgene became a tradition each year I ran it. Thanks for the memories, Gray -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Charles McCall Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 9:09 AM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because of This List (many moons ago) This morning I posted on Facebook a flashback from 1997 or 1998 - see attached photo. It's a picture of my first Pantera parked on the streets of Paris with US plates on the back and the Eiffel Tower in the background. Thanks to Mike Drew for convincing me to have an adventure in my Pantera and ship it, as this decision opened up a whole world to me and helped define my philosophy for the next decades... The number of adventures I've had since then in a Pantera... At the time, I had recently been transferred to France, and flew back to the US to put my former '72 Pantera on a boat to ship it over (See article in 1999 POCA Profiles about shipping a Pantera to France for what was supposed to be a 6-month assignment...) While driving the car from Collector's Choice in Wisconsin to NY and the ship, it developed an engine problem. I was stranded on the NYS Thruway and ended up having the car towed to my parents' house in Syracuse, NY. Long story made short - I already had my return airline ticket, and had to leave the car behind. A local garage found that the problem was the dreaded distributor shear pin that had, well, sheared, and left me stranded. Forest Majors - who I had never met (and still haven't!) but had gotten to know thanks to the e-mail fórum sent me a note out of the blue asking how he could help. I had a friend drive my car shipped to his house in CT, where Forest was kind enough to fix some minor things that he noticed along the way that were quite helpful, and stored the car for me until it could be delivered to the port. If I remember correctly, he even pulled a few parts off a spare Pantera he had to help me be on my way. People I had never met in person - Mike Drew and Forest Majors - who each did a good deed for someone they didn't know personally either but had come to "know" virtually, asking for nothing in return. I still see a lot of that spirit on this list today, which is no doubt one reason for its success. Thanks to all who make it so! _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. Guys... Ok here is only one of my Forest stories and I have plenty....I bought an RX-7 and it needed a transmission, took the car to Forest's house to use the lift to take the car apart (see picture attached with car, Forest and Georgene) we pulled the tranny and he shipped down to Ole Saybrook to have it rebuilt. They he went and picked it back up again for me as the car sat on his lift for two weeks. We must have pulled that tranny about three more time over the next year and a half. Can't tell you how many time I stayed at the house over the weekend to work on my car. The nicest people you can ever have in your stable (Same for Mark Skwarek aka the professor "TPR") Jim __________________________________________________________________ From: Gray Gregory <rgg@gregorycook.com> To: Charles McCall <charlesmccall@gmail.com>; "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because of This List (many moons ago) Charlie, I remember all those events, or at least your emails to the list about them back then. I also remember Forest Majors; absolutely one of the finest people you could ever hope to meet! My Forest story is somewhat similar. Back about that same time frame I signed up for a vintage car rally in New England with an old Ferrari I had at the time. Forest (who I had never met in person either) sent me an email offer any help I might need with the logistics of dropping my car off or getting it picked back up etc. Long story short not only did I have the car shipped to Forests house where he kindly stored it in the barn he was also gracious enough to pick me up from the airport, put me up in his guest room and he even had a back yard New England lobster boil with some of the local car guys to welcome the Texan to town. I ended up doing that rally for 3 or 4 years in a row and staying with Forest and Georgene became a tradition each year I ran it. Thanks for the memories, Gray -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:[1]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Charles McCall Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 9:09 AM To: [2]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because of This List (many moons ago) This morning I posted on Facebook a flashback from 1997 or 1998 - see attached photo. It's a picture of my first Pantera parked on the streets of Paris with US plates on the back and the Eiffel Tower in the background. Thanks to Mike Drew for convincing me to have an adventure in my Pantera and ship it, as this decision opened up a whole world to me and helped define my philosophy for the next decades... The number of adventures I've had since then in a Pantera... At the time, I had recently been transferred to France, and flew back to the US to put my former '72 Pantera on a boat to ship it over (See article in 1999 POCA Profiles about shipping a Pantera to France for what was supposed to be a 6-month assignment...) While driving the car from Collector's Choice in Wisconsin to NY and the ship, it developed an engine problem. I was stranded on the NYS Thruway and ended up having the car towed to my parents' house in Syracuse, NY. Long story made short - I already had my return airline ticket, and had to leave the car behind. A local garage found that the problem was the dreaded distributor shear pin that had, well, sheared, and left me stranded. Forest Majors - who I had never met (and still haven't!) but had gotten to know thanks to the e-mail fA^3rum sent me a note out of the blue asking how he could help. I had a friend drive my car shipped to his house in CT, where Forest was kind enough to fix some minor things that he noticed along the way that were quite helpful, and stored the car for me until it could be delivered to the port. If I remember correctly, he even pulled a few parts off a spare Pantera he had to help me be on my way. People I had never met in person - Mike Drew and Forest Majors - who each did a good deed for someone they didn't know personally either but had come to "know" virtually, asking for nothing in return. I still see a lot of that spirit on this list today, which is no doubt one reason for its success. Thanks to all who make it so! _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [3]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [4]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. 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From: P6746@aol.com [mailto:P6746@aol.com] Sent: jueves, 9 de junio de 2016 21:24 To: pantera_4220@yahoo.com; rgg@gregorycook.com; charlesmccall@gmail.com; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; forest.majors@gmail.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because of This List (ma... I really have to add to the Forest and Goergene stories. For several years it seemed that Carol and I, Ken and Nancy Ridley, and Jim Wallace had our own rooms in the Majors house. We would meet there for a weekend of fun and food and a car show in their back yard. Ironically I first met Forest on a bus on the 17 Mile Drive at Pebble Beach. Wonderful people, as are most Pantera folks. Bob Reid In a message dated 6/9/2016 2:26:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [1]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com writes: Guys... Ok here is only one of my Forest stories and I have plenty....I bought an RX-7 and it needed a transmission, took the car to Forest's house to use the lift to take the car apart (see picture attached with car, Forest and Georgene) we pulled the tranny and he shipped down to Ole Saybrook to have it rebuilt. They he went and picked it back up again for me as the car sat on his lift for two weeks. We must have pulled that tranny about three more time over the next year and a half. Can't tell you how many time I stayed at the house over the weekend to work on my car. The nicest people you can ever have in your stable (Same for Mark Skwarek aka the professor "TPR") Jim From: Gray Gregory <[2]rgg@gregorycook.com> To: Charles McCall <[3]charlesmccall@gmail.com>; "[4]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[5]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because of This List (many moons ago) Charlie, I remember all those events, or at least your emails to the list about them back then. I also remember Forest Majors; absolutely one of the finest people you could ever hope to meet! My Forest story is somewhat similar. Back about that same time frame I signed up for a vintage car rally in New England with an old Ferrari I had at the time. Forest (who I had never met in person either) sent me an email offer any help I might need with the logistics of dropping my car off or getting it picked back up etc. Long story short not only did I have the car shipped to Forests house where he kindly stored it in the barn he was also gracious enough to pick me up from the airport, put me up in his guest room and he even had a back yard New England lobster boil with some of the local car guys to welcome the Texan to town. I ended up doing that rally for 3 or 4 years in a row and staying with Forest and Georgene became a tradition each year I ran it. Thanks for the memories, Gray -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[6]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Charles McCall Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 9:09 AM To: [7]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because of This List (many moons ago) This morning I posted on Facebook a flashback from 1997 or 1998 - see attached photo. It's a picture of my first Pantera parked on the streets of Paris with US plates on the back and the Eiffel Tower in the background. Thanks to Mike Drew for convincing me to have an adventure in my Pantera and ship it, as this decision opened up a whole world to me and helped define my philosophy for the next decades... The number of adventures I've had since then in a Pantera... At the time, I had recently been transferred to France, and flew back to the US to put my former '72 Pantera on a boat to ship it over (See article in 1999 POCA Profiles about shipping a Pantera to France for what was supposed to be a 6-month assignment...) While driving the car from Collector's Choice in Wisconsin to NY and the ship, it developed an engine problem. I was stranded on the NYS Thruway and ended up having the car towed to my parents' house in Syracuse, NY. Long story made short - I already had my return airline ticket, and had to leave the car behind. A local garage found that the problem was the dreaded distributor shear pin that had, well, sheared, and left me stranded. Forest Majors - who I had never met (and still haven't!) but had gotten to know thanks to the e-mail forum sent me a note out of the blue asking how he could help. I had a friend drive my car shipped to his house in CT, where Forest was kind enough to fix some minor things that he noticed along the way that were quite helpful, and stored the car for me until it could be delivered to the port. If I remember correctly, he even pulled a few parts off a spare Pantera he had to help me be on my way. People I had never met in person - Mike Drew and Forest Majors - who each did a good deed for someone they didn't know personally either but had come to "know" virtually, asking for nothing in return. I still see a lot of that spirit on this list today, which is no doubt one reason for its success. Thanks to all who make it so! _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [8]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [9]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. Guys... Ok here is only one of my Forest stories and I have plenty....I bought an RX-7 and it needed a transmission, took the car to Forest's house to use the lift to take the car apart (see picture attached with car, Forest and Georgene) we pulled the tranny and he shipped down to Ole Saybrook to have it rebuilt. They he went and picked it back up again for me as the car sat on his lift for two weeks. We must have pulled that tranny about three more time over the next year and a half. Can't tell you how many time I stayed at the house over the weekend to work on my car. The nicest people you can ever have in your stable (Same for Mark Skwarek aka the professor "TPR") Jim __________________________________________________________________ From: Gray Gregory <[10]rgg@gregorycook.com> To: Charles McCall <[11]charlesmccall@gmail.com>; "[12]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[13]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because of This List (many moons ago) Charlie, I remember all those events, or at least your emails to the list about them back then. I also remember Forest Majors; absolutely one of the finest people you could ever hope to meet! My Forest story is somewhat similar. Back about that same time frame I signed up for a vintage car rally in New England with an old Ferrari I had at the time. Forest (who I had never met in person either) sent me an email offer any help I might need with the logistics of dropping my car off or getting it picked back up etc. Long story short not only did I have the car shipped to Forests house where he kindly stored it in the barn he was also gracious enough to pick me up from the airport, put me up in his guest room and he even had a back yard New England lobster boil with some of the local car guys to welcome the Texan to town. I ended up doing that rally for 3 or 4 years in a row and staying with Forest and Georgene became a tradition each year I ran it. Thanks for the memories, Gray -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:[1][14]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Charles McCall Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 9:09 AM To: [2][15]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because of This List (many moons ago) This morning I posted on Facebook a flashback from 1997 or 1998 - see attached photo. It's a picture of my first Pantera parked on the streets of Paris with US plates on the back and the Eiffel Tower in the background. Thanks to Mike Drew for convincing me to have an adventure in my Pantera and ship it, as this decision opened up a whole world to me and helped define my philosophy for the next decades... The number of adventures I've had since then in a Pantera... At the time, I had recently been transferred to France, and flew back to the US to put my former '72 Pantera on a boat to ship it over (See article in 1999 POCA Profiles about shipping a Pantera to France for what was supposed to be a 6-month assignment...) While driving the car from Collector's Choice in Wisconsin to NY and the ship, it developed an engine problem. I was stranded on the NYS Thruway and ended up having the car towed to my parents' house in Syracuse, NY. Long story made short - I already had my return airline ticket, and had to leave the car behind. A local garage found that the problem was the dreaded distributor shear pin that had, well, sheared, and left me stranded. Forest Majors - who I had never met (and still haven't!) but had gotten to know thanks to the e-mail fA^3rum sent me a note out of the blue asking how he could help. I had a friend drive my car shipped to his house in CT, where Forest was kind enough to fix some minor things that he noticed along the way that were quite helpful, and stored the car for me until it could be delivered to the port. If I remember correctly, he even pulled a few parts off a spare Pantera he had to help me be on my way. People I had never met in person - Mike Drew and Forest Majors - who each did a good deed for someone they didn't know personally either but had come to "know" virtually, asking for nothing in return. I still see a lot of that spirit on this list today, which is no doubt one reason for its success. 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I have a Forest story too. Back when this list was new, I used to travel to Boston and Albany to visit customers. Forest offered his home and hospitality if I was around on the weekends. Then again, Pantera folks everywhere were always welcoming. I spent quite of bit of time with a bunch of different people in SoCal back then too. Paul #9270 On 6/9/2016 2:24 PM, Charles McCall wrote:
Isn't this what Pantera ownership and common interests is all about?
From: P6746@aol.com [mailto:P6746@aol.com] Sent: jueves, 9 de junio de 2016 21:24 To: pantera_4220@yahoo.com; rgg@gregorycook.com; charlesmccall@gmail.com; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; forest.majors@gmail.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because of This List (ma...
I really have to add to the Forest and Goergene stories. For several years it seemed that Carol and I, Ken and Nancy Ridley, and Jim Wallace had our own rooms in the Majors house. We would meet there for a weekend of fun and food and a car show in their back yard. Ironically I first met Forest on a bus on the 17 Mile Drive at Pebble Beach. Wonderful people, as are most Pantera folks. Bob Reid
In a message dated 6/9/2016 2:26:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [1]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com writes:
Guys... Ok here is only one of my Forest stories and I have plenty....I bought an RX-7 and it needed a transmission, took the car to Forest's house to use the lift to take the car apart (see picture attached with car, Forest and Georgene) we pulled the tranny and he shipped down to Ole Saybrook to have it rebuilt. They he went and picked it back up again for me as the car sat on his lift for two weeks. We must have pulled that tranny about three more time over the next year and a half. Can't tell you how many time I stayed at the house over the weekend to work on my car. The nicest people you can ever have in your stable (Same for Mark Skwarek aka the professor "TPR") Jim From: Gray Gregory <[2]rgg@gregorycook.com> To: Charles McCall <[3]charlesmccall@gmail.com>; "[4]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[5]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because of This List (many moons ago)
Charlie, I remember all those events, or at least your emails to the list about them back then. I also remember Forest Majors; absolutely one of the finest people you could ever hope to meet! My Forest story is somewhat similar. Back about that same time frame I signed up for a vintage car rally in New England with an old Ferrari I had at the time. Forest (who I had never met in person either) sent me an email offer any help I might need with the logistics of dropping my car off or getting it picked back up etc. Long story short not only did I have the car shipped to Forests house where he kindly stored it in the barn he was also gracious enough to pick me up from the airport, put me up in his guest room and he even had a back yard New England lobster boil with some of the local car guys to welcome the Texan to town. I ended up doing that rally for 3 or 4 years in a row and staying with Forest and Georgene became a tradition each year I ran it. Thanks for the memories, Gray -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[6]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Charles McCall Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 9:09 AM To: [7]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because of This List (many moons ago) This morning I posted on Facebook a flashback from 1997 or 1998 - see attached photo. It's a picture of my first Pantera parked on the streets of Paris with US plates on the back and the Eiffel Tower in the background. Thanks to Mike Drew for convincing me to have an adventure in my Pantera and ship it, as this decision opened up a whole world to me and helped define my philosophy for the next decades... The number of adventures I've had since then in a Pantera... At the time, I had recently been transferred to France, and flew back to the US to put my former '72 Pantera on a boat to ship it over (See article in 1999 POCA Profiles about shipping a Pantera to France for what was supposed to be a 6-month assignment...) While driving the car from Collector's Choice in Wisconsin to NY and the ship, it developed an engine problem. I was stranded on the NYS Thruway and ended up having the car towed to my parents' house in Syracuse, NY. Long story made short - I already had my return airline ticket, and had to leave the car behind. A local garage found that the problem was the dreaded distributor shear pin that had, well, sheared, and left me stranded. Forest Majors - who I had never met (and still haven't!) but had gotten to know thanks to the e-mail forum sent me a note out of the blue asking how he could help. I had a friend drive my car shipped to his house in CT, where Forest was kind enough to fix some minor things that he noticed along the way that were quite helpful, and stored the car for me until it could be delivered to the port. If I remember correctly, he even pulled a few parts off a spare Pantera he had to help me be on my way. People I had never met in person - Mike Drew and Forest Majors - who each did a good deed for someone they didn't know personally either but had come to "know" virtually, asking for nothing in return. I still see a lot of that spirit on this list today, which is no doubt one reason for its success. Thanks to all who make it so! _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [8]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [9]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
Guys... Ok here is only one of my Forest stories and I have plenty....I bought an RX-7 and it needed a transmission, took the car to Forest's house to use the lift to take the car apart (see picture attached with car, Forest and Georgene) we pulled the tranny and he shipped down to Ole Saybrook to have it rebuilt. They he went and picked it back up again for me as the car sat on his lift for two weeks. We must have pulled that tranny about three more time over the next year and a half. Can't tell you how many time I stayed at the house over the weekend to work on my car. The nicest people you can ever have in your stable (Same for Mark Skwarek aka the professor "TPR") Jim
__________________________________________________________________ From: Gray Gregory <[10]rgg@gregorycook.com> To: Charles McCall <[11]charlesmccall@gmail.com>; "[12]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[13]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because of This List (many moons ago) Charlie, I remember all those events, or at least your emails to the list about them back then. I also remember Forest Majors; absolutely one of the finest people you could ever hope to meet! My Forest story is somewhat similar. Back about that same time frame I signed up for a vintage car rally in New England with an old Ferrari I had at the time. Forest (who I had never met in person either) sent me an email offer any help I might need with the logistics of dropping my car off or getting it picked back up etc. Long story short not only did I have the car shipped to Forests house where he kindly stored it in the barn he was also gracious enough to pick me up from the airport, put me up in his guest room and he even had a back yard New England lobster boil with some of the local car guys to welcome the Texan to town. I ended up doing that rally for 3 or 4 years in a row and staying with Forest and Georgene became a tradition each year I ran it. Thanks for the memories, Gray -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:[1][14]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Charles McCall Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 9:09 AM To: [2][15]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because of This List (many moons ago) This morning I posted on Facebook a flashback from 1997 or 1998 - see attached photo. It's a picture of my first Pantera parked on the streets of Paris with US plates on the back and the Eiffel Tower in the background. Thanks to Mike Drew for convincing me to have an adventure in my Pantera and ship it, as this decision opened up a whole world to me and helped define my philosophy for the next decades... The number of adventures I've had since then in a Pantera... At the time, I had recently been transferred to France, and flew back to the US to put my former '72 Pantera on a boat to ship it over (See article in 1999 POCA Profiles about shipping a Pantera to France for what was supposed to be a 6-month assignment...) While driving the car from Collector's Choice in Wisconsin to NY and the ship, it developed an engine problem. I was stranded on the NYS Thruway and ended up having the car towed to my parents' house in Syracuse, NY. Long story made short - I already had my return airline ticket, and had to leave the car behind. A local garage found that the problem was the dreaded distributor shear pin that had, well, sheared, and left me stranded. Forest Majors - who I had never met (and still haven't!) but had gotten to know thanks to the e-mail fA^3rum sent me a note out of the blue asking how he could help. I had a friend drive my car shipped to his house in CT, where Forest was kind enough to fix some minor things that he noticed along the way that were quite helpful, and stored the car for me until it could be delivered to the port. If I remember correctly, he even pulled a few parts off a spare Pantera he had to help me be on my way. People I had never met in person - Mike Drew and Forest Majors - who each did a good deed for someone they didn't know personally either but had come to "know" virtually, asking for nothing in return. I still see a lot of that spirit on this list today, which is no doubt one reason for its success. 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Forest and Georgene introduced to Panteras by taking me to an Italian car event at the Pocono race track. Needless to say Forest had found me a Pantera in less than two months. The rest is history. Thru the Pantera community, I have met many great and giving people. At one time we had 5 Panteras in a town of 7,000 people. Now we are down to 3 Panteras in town. Mark On Thursday, June 9, 2016 3:45 PM, Paul Timko <thedrol@pobox.com> wrote: I have a Forest story too. Back when this list was new, I used to travel to Boston and Albany to visit customers. Forest offered his home and hospitality if I was around on the weekends. Then again, Pantera folks everywhere were always welcoming. I spent quite of bit of time with a bunch of different people in SoCal back then too. Paul #9270 On 6/9/2016 2:24 PM, Charles McCall wrote:
Isn't this what Pantera ownership and common interests is all about?
From: P6746@aol.com [mailto:P6746@aol.com] Sent: jueves, 9 de junio de 2016 21:24 To: pantera_4220@yahoo.com; rgg@gregorycook.com; charlesmccall@gmail.com; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; forest.majors@gmail.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because of This List (ma...
I really have to add to the Forest and Goergene stories. For several years it seemed that Carol and I, Ken and Nancy Ridley, and Jim Wallace had our own rooms in the Majors house. We would meet there for a weekend of fun and food and a car show in their back yard. Ironically I first met Forest on a bus on the 17 Mile Drive at Pebble Beach. Wonderful people, as are most Pantera folks. Bob Reid
In a message dated 6/9/2016 2:26:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [1]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com writes:
Guys... Ok here is only one of my Forest stories and I have plenty....I bought an RX-7 and it needed a transmission, took the car to Forest's house to use the lift to take the car apart (see picture attached with car, Forest and Georgene) we pulled the tranny and he shipped down to Ole Saybrook to have it rebuilt. They he went and picked it back up again for me as the car sat on his lift for two weeks. We must have pulled that tranny about three more time over the next year and a half. Can't tell you how many time I stayed at the house over the weekend to work on my car. The nicest people you can ever have in your stable (Same for Mark Skwarek aka the professor "TPR") Jim From: Gray Gregory <[2]rgg@gregorycook.com> To: Charles McCall <[3]charlesmccall@gmail.com>; "[4]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[5]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because of This List (many moons ago)
Charlie, I remember all those events, or at least your emails to the list about them back then. I also remember Forest Majors; absolutely one of the finest people you could ever hope to meet! My Forest story is somewhat similar. Back about that same time frame I signed up for a vintage car rally in New England with an old Ferrari I had at the time. Forest (who I had never met in person either) sent me an email offer any help I might need with the logistics of dropping my car off or getting it picked back up etc. Long story short not only did I have the car shipped to Forests house where he kindly stored it in the barn he was also gracious enough to pick me up from the airport, put me up in his guest room and he even had a back yard New England lobster boil with some of the local car guys to welcome the Texan to town. I ended up doing that rally for 3 or 4 years in a row and staying with Forest and Georgene became a tradition each year I ran it. Thanks for the memories, Gray -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[6]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Charles McCall Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 9:09 AM To: [7]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because of This List (many moons ago) This morning I posted on Facebook a flashback from 1997 or 1998 - see attached photo. It's a picture of my first Pantera parked on the streets of Paris with US plates on the back and the Eiffel Tower in the background. Thanks to Mike Drew for convincing me to have an adventure in my Pantera and ship it, as this decision opened up a whole world to me and helped define my philosophy for the next decades... The number of adventures I've had since then in a Pantera... At the time, I had recently been transferred to France, and flew back to the US to put my former '72 Pantera on a boat to ship it over (See article in 1999 POCA Profiles about shipping a Pantera to France for what was supposed to be a 6-month assignment...) While driving the car from Collector's Choice in Wisconsin to NY and the ship, it developed an engine problem. I was stranded on the NYS Thruway and ended up having the car towed to my parents' house in Syracuse, NY. Long story made short - I already had my return airline ticket, and had to leave the car behind. A local garage found that the problem was the dreaded distributor shear pin that had, well, sheared, and left me stranded. Forest Majors - who I had never met (and still haven't!) but had gotten to know thanks to the e-mail forum sent me a note out of the blue asking how he could help. I had a friend drive my car shipped to his house in CT, where Forest was kind enough to fix some minor things that he noticed along the way that were quite helpful, and stored the car for me until it could be delivered to the port. If I remember correctly, he even pulled a few parts off a spare Pantera he had to help me be on my way. People I had never met in person - Mike Drew and Forest Majors - who each did a good deed for someone they didn't know personally either but had come to "know" virtually, asking for nothing in return. I still see a lot of that spirit on this list today, which is no doubt one reason for its success. Thanks to all who make it so! _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [8]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [9]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
Guys... Ok here is only one of my Forest stories and I have plenty....I bought an RX-7 and it needed a transmission, took the car to Forest's house to use the lift to take the car apart (see picture attached with car, Forest and Georgene) we pulled the tranny and he shipped down to Ole Saybrook to have it rebuilt. They he went and picked it back up again for me as the car sat on his lift for two weeks. We must have pulled that tranny about three more time over the next year and a half. Can't tell you how many time I stayed at the house over the weekend to work on my car. The nicest people you can ever have in your stable (Same for Mark Skwarek aka the professor "TPR") Jim
__________________________________________________________________ From: Gray Gregory <[10]rgg@gregorycook.com> To: Charles McCall <[11]charlesmccall@gmail.com>; "[12]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[13]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because of This List (many moons ago) Charlie, I remember all those events, or at least your emails to the list about them back then. I also remember Forest Majors; absolutely one of the finest people you could ever hope to meet! My Forest story is somewhat similar. Back about that same time frame I signed up for a vintage car rally in New England with an old Ferrari I had at the time. Forest (who I had never met in person either) sent me an email offer any help I might need with the logistics of dropping my car off or getting it picked back up etc. Long story short not only did I have the car shipped to Forests house where he kindly stored it in the barn he was also gracious enough to pick me up from the airport, put me up in his guest room and he even had a back yard New England lobster boil with some of the local car guys to welcome the Texan to town. I ended up doing that rally for 3 or 4 years in a row and staying with Forest and Georgene became a tradition each year I ran it. Thanks for the memories, Gray -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:[1][14]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Charles McCall Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 9:09 AM To: [2][15]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because of This List (many moons ago) This morning I posted on Facebook a flashback from 1997 or 1998 - see attached photo. It's a picture of my first Pantera parked on the streets of Paris with US plates on the back and the Eiffel Tower in the background. Thanks to Mike Drew for convincing me to have an adventure in my Pantera and ship it, as this decision opened up a whole world to me and helped define my philosophy for the next decades... The number of adventures I've had since then in a Pantera... At the time, I had recently been transferred to France, and flew back to the US to put my former '72 Pantera on a boat to ship it over (See article in 1999 POCA Profiles about shipping a Pantera to France for what was supposed to be a 6-month assignment...) While driving the car from Collector's Choice in Wisconsin to NY and the ship, it developed an engine problem. I was stranded on the NYS Thruway and ended up having the car towed to my parents' house in Syracuse, NY. Long story made short - I already had my return airline ticket, and had to leave the car behind. A local garage found that the problem was the dreaded distributor shear pin that had, well, sheared, and left me stranded. Forest Majors - who I had never met (and still haven't!) but had gotten to know thanks to the e-mail fA^3rum sent me a note out of the blue asking how he could help. I had a friend drive my car shipped to his house in CT, where Forest was kind enough to fix some minor things that he noticed along the way that were quite helpful, and stored the car for me until it could be delivered to the port. If I remember correctly, he even pulled a few parts off a spare Pantera he had to help me be on my way. People I had never met in person - Mike Drew and Forest Majors - who each did a good deed for someone they didn't know personally either but had come to "know" virtually, asking for nothing in return. I still see a lot of that spirit on this list today, which is no doubt one reason for its success. 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Isn't this what Pantera ownership and common interests is all about?
From: [1]P6746@aol.com [mailto:[2]P6746@aol.com] Sent: jueves, 9 de junio de 2016 21:24 To: [3]pantera_4220@yahoo.com; [4]rgg@gregorycook.com; [5]charlesmccall@gmail.com; [6]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; [7]forest.majors@gmail.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because of This List (ma...
I really have to add to the Forest and Goergene stories. For several years it seemed that Carol and I, Ken and Nancy Ridley, and Jim Wallace had our own rooms in the Majors house. We would meet there for a weekend of fun and food and a car show in their back yard. Ironically I first met Forest on a bus on the 17 Mile Drive at Pebble Beach. Wonderful people, as are most Pantera folks. Bob Reid
In a message dated 6/9/2016 2:26:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [1][8]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com writes:
Guys... Ok here is only one of my Forest stories and I have plenty....I bought an RX-7 and it needed a transmission, took the car to Forest's house to use the lift to take the car apart (see
_______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. Forest and Georgene introduced to Panteras by taking me to an Italian car event at the Pocono race track. Needless to say Forest had found me a Pantera in less than two months. The rest is history. Thru the Pantera community, I have met many great and giving people. At one time we had 5 Panteras in a town of 7,000 people. Now we are down to 3 Panteras in town. Mark On Thursday, June 9, 2016 3:45 PM, Paul Timko <thedrol@pobox.com> wrote: I have a Forest story too. Back when this list was new, I used to travel to Boston and Albany to visit customers. Forest offered his home and hospitality if I was around on the weekends. Then again, Pantera folks everywhere were always welcoming. I spent quite of bit of time with a bunch of different people in SoCal back then too. Paul #9270 On 6/9/2016 2:24 PM, Charles McCall wrote: picture
attached with car, Forest and Georgene) we pulled the tranny and
he
shipped down to Ole Saybrook to have it rebuilt. They he went
and
picked it back up again for me as the car sat on his lift for
two
weeks. We must have pulled that tranny about three more time
over
the next year and a half. Can't tell you how many time I stayed
at
the house over the weekend to work on my car. The nicest people you can ever have in your stable (Same for
Mark
Skwarek aka the professor "TPR") Jim From: Gray Gregory <[2][9]rgg@gregorycook.com> To: Charles McCall <[3][10]charlesmccall@gmail.com>; "[4][11]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[5][12]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because
of
This List (many moons ago)
Charlie, I remember all those events, or at least your emails to the list about them back then. I also remember Forest Majors; absolutely
one
of the finest people you could ever hope to meet! My Forest story is somewhat similar. Back about that same time
frame
I signed up for a vintage car rally in New England with an old Ferrari I had at the time. Forest (who I had never met in person either) sent me an email offer any help I might need with the logistics of dropping my car off or getting it picked back up
etc.
Long story short not only did I have the car shipped to Forests house where he kindly stored it in the barn he was also gracious enough to pick me up from the airport, put me up in his guest
room
and he even had a back yard New England lobster boil with some
of
the local car guys to welcome the Texan to town. I ended up
doing
that rally for 3 or 4 years in a row and staying with Forest and Georgene became a tradition each year I ran it. Thanks for the memories, Gray -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso
[[6]mailto:[13]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com]
On Behalf Of Charles McCall Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 9:09 AM To: [7][14]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because of
This
List (many moons ago) This morning I posted on Facebook a flashback from 1997 or 1998
-
see attached photo. It's a picture of my first Pantera parked on
the
streets of Paris with US plates on the back and the Eiffel Tower
in
the background. Thanks to Mike Drew for convincing me to have an adventure in my Pantera and ship it, as this decision opened up a whole world to
me
and helped define my philosophy for the next decades... The
number
of adventures I've had since then in a Pantera... At the time, I had recently been transferred to France, and flew back to the US to put my former '72 Pantera on a boat to ship it over (See article in 1999 POCA Profiles about shipping a Pantera
to
France for what was supposed to be a 6-month assignment...) While driving the car from Collector's Choice in Wisconsin to NY
and
the ship, it developed an engine problem. I was stranded on the
NYS
Thruway and ended up having the car towed to my parents' house
in
Syracuse, NY. Long story made short - I already had my return airline ticket, and had to leave the car behind. A local garage found that the problem was the dreaded distributor shear pin
that
had, well, sheared, and left me stranded. Forest Majors - who I had never met (and still haven't!) but had gotten to know thanks to the e-mail forum sent me a note out of
the
blue asking how he could help. I had a friend drive my car
shipped
to his house in CT, where Forest was kind enough to fix some
minor
things that he noticed along the way that were quite helpful,
and
stored the car for me until it could be delivered to the port.
If I
remember correctly, he even pulled a few parts off a spare
Pantera
he had to help me be on my way. People I had never met in person - Mike Drew and Forest Majors -
who
each did a good deed for someone they didn't know personally
either
but had come to "know" virtually, asking for nothing in return. I still see a lot of that spirit on this list today, which is no doubt one reason for its success. Thanks to all who make it so! _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [8][15]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [9][16]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to
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Guys... Ok here is only one of my Forest stories and I have
plenty....I
bought an RX-7 and it needed a transmission, took the car to Forest's house to use the lift to take the car apart (see picture attached with car, Forest and Georgene) we pulled the tranny and he shipped down
to
Ole Saybrook to have it rebuilt. They he went and picked it back
up
again for me as the car sat on his lift for two weeks. We must have pulled that tranny about three more time over the next year and a
half.
Can't tell you how many time I stayed at the house over the weekend
to
work on my car. The nicest people you can ever have in your stable (Same for
Mark
Skwarek aka the professor "TPR") Jim
__________________________________________________________________
From: Gray Gregory <[10][17]rgg@gregorycook.com> To: Charles McCall <[11][18]charlesmccall@gmail.com>; "[12][19]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[13][20]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2016 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened
because
of This List (many moons ago) Charlie, I remember all those events, or at least your emails to the
list
about them back then. I also remember Forest Majors; absolutely one
of
the finest people you could ever hope to meet! My Forest story is somewhat similar. Back about that same time frame I signed up for a vintage car rally in New England with an old Ferrari I had at the time. Forest (who I had never met in person either) sent me an email offer any help I might need with the logistics of dropping my car off or getting it picked back up etc. Long story short not only did I have the car shipped to Forests house where he kindly stored
it
in the barn he was also gracious enough to pick me up from the airport, put me up in his guest room and he even had a back yard New England lobster boil with some of the local car guys to welcome the
Texan
to town. I ended up doing that rally for 3 or 4 years in a row
and
staying with Forest and Georgene became a tradition each year I ran
it.
Thanks for the memories, Gray -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:[1][14][21]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Charles McCall Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2016 9:09 AM To: [2][15][22]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Great things that have happened because of This List (many moons ago) This morning I posted on Facebook a flashback from 1997 or
1998 -
see attached photo. It's a picture of my first Pantera parked on
the
streets of Paris with US plates on the back and the Eiffel
Tower
in the background. Thanks to Mike Drew for convincing me to have an adventure in
my
Pantera and ship it, as this decision opened up a whole world
to
me and helped define my philosophy for the next decades... The number
of
adventures I've had since then in a Pantera... At the time, I had recently been transferred to France, and
flew
back to the US to put my former '72 Pantera on a boat to ship it
over
(See article in 1999 POCA Profiles about shipping a Pantera to
France
for what was supposed to be a 6-month assignment...) While driving the car from Collector's Choice in Wisconsin to
NY
and the ship, it developed an engine problem. I was stranded on
the
NYS Thruway and ended up having the car towed to my parents' house
in
Syracuse, NY. Long story made short - I already had my return airline ticket, and had to leave the car behind. A local garage found that the problem was the dreaded distributor shear pin that had, well, sheared, and left me stranded. Forest Majors - who I had never met (and still haven't!) but
had
gotten to know thanks to the e-mail fA^3rum sent me a note out of the blue asking how he could help. I had a friend drive my car shipped
to
his house in CT, where Forest was kind enough to fix some minor things that he noticed along the way that were quite helpful, and stored
the
car for me until it could be delivered to the port. If I remember correctly, he even pulled a few parts off a spare Pantera he
had
to help me be on my way. People I had never met in person - Mike Drew and Forest Majors
-
who each did a good deed for someone they didn't know personally either but had come to "know" virtually, asking for nothing in return. I still see a lot of that spirit on this list today, which is
no
doubt one reason for its success. Thanks to all who make it so! _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [3][16][23]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com
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