I just got off the phone with Seatbelt Planet. I've been looking for alternatives for my seatbelts for years (the driver side doesn’t retract with the same force and with the windows open, the belt flaps up against the bulkhead--and that's in addition to them looking their age. I want to keep it looking stock so a re-webbing is the perfect solution. They also make repairs (unless the unit is trashed) to the mechanisms. The website doesn't mention dual retractor seatbelt repairs for the Pantera, but they do work on them for, of course, more than the single retractor units. Duals are $240 per belt. When I get my car roadworthy again, I'll be sending my belts to them. No need to make modifications...I can use the break from additional work. Our resident brain surgeon comes through again, thank you Chuck! Richard Austin, TX -----Original Message----- From: Charles Engles <cengles@cox.net> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2025 12:32 PM To: 'Terry Himes' <terry.himes@pncnet.com> Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Re: Opinion and Feedback Dear Terry, #1: I don't much about seatbelts, but I have been to the Seatbelt Planet, spoke with them and was given a tour. They seem to know what they're doing and can give you several options for your Pantera seatbelt quandary. https://www.seatbeltplanet.com/?srsltid=AfmBOoomgWvVmSnnaXy7dDa3-aVAmMNS9aO5... #2: yellow civilian---as opposed to racing belt harness---belts in a black interior Pantera could be done, but seems a bit challenging to my tastes. Warmest regards, Chuck Engles -----Original Message----- From: Terry Himes [mailto:terry.himes@pncnet.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2025 12:20 PM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Opinion and Feedback I know you all have options, so I am soliciting your feedback. #1 I need to replace the seatbelts and need some feedback on sources anyone has had success with. #2 My 1974 Pantera is bright yellow (attached) black interior. When I’m ready to sell… would yellow seat belts be, a) Awesome b) Cheezy Terry Example Only: "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes Princeton Networks Corporation President Cell: (818) 653-8213 Deep Space Mission Systems (818) 653-8213 terry.himes@pncnet.com JPL (RED) Deep Space Exploration – Mission Operations Mars 2020 (Perseverance) Rover Relay Mars 2020 (Ingenuity) Helicopter Relay Psyche Orbiter Europa Lander Science Support Team Odyssey Sequence Team TGO Sequence Lead MEX Sequence Lead Spitzer Space Telescope Data Team Dawn Spacecraft Team _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list -- detomaso@server.detomasolist.com To unsubscribe send an email to detomaso-leave@server.detomasolist.com To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.

Majority opinion for resale would be "Black." I agree with that. Now I only need to find them. Seatbeltplanet.com and SeatBeltsPlus.com look like suspects. Thanks to everyone. On 5/28/25, 10:35 AM, "Mike Drew" <mikeldrew@aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew@aol.com>> wrote: Terry, I’ve got yellow harnesses in my car which are cool. But yellow conventional belts might not be to most people’s liking so if you are thinking of the future, basic black is the way to go. Cheers! Mike Sent from my iPad

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 I know you all have options, so I am soliciting your feedback.

#1

I need to replace the seatbelts and need some feedback on sources anyone has had success with.

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My 1974 Pantera is bright yellow (attached) black interior.

When I’m ready to sell… would yellow seat belts be, a) Awesome b) Cheezy

Terry

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72-74 and L models should have both. Body service 51640 and after. Lap belt pulls out from the rocker panel and the shoulder belt goes to the top bulkhead bolt then down to the bottom roller with the black cover. In a message dated 5/28/2025 1:10:39 PM Central Daylight Time, detomaso@server.detomasolist.com writes:    Black.  My opinion.   😁   Asa  Jay   MSgT, USAFR, Retired   “Within the covers of the Bible are the answers for all the problems   men face.”   Ronald Reagan     On May 28, 2025, at 10:21, Terry Himes <terry.himes@pncnet.com>     wrote:     I know you all have options, so I am soliciting your feedback.     #1     I need to replace the seatbelts and need some feedback on sources     anyone has had success with.     #2     My 1974 Pantera is bright yellow (attached) black interior.     When I’m ready to sell… would yellow seat belts be,  a) Awesome b)     Cheezy     Terry     Example Only:     Seatbelt Planet - Reweb Service - Single Retractor Seat Belt - Image   5     "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,       stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"     Terry W. 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Mike, I went through this in 2019 with my 74 Pantera. I researched the forum, email lists and other sources and decided net new would be better than rebuilding. I ended up buying a 3-point set from Seatbelt Planet (model 30512010 - 3 Point Retractable Lap & Shoulder). They have the nice GT5S style female receivers and allowed me to retain use of the original sill plates. They assemble in the U.S. and are Veteran owned. They only have one retractor reel in the back firewall mount, which I have found works better than the original design. I did have to modify the metal covers to cover the reel in the back firewall, but it blends in fine and is behind my seatbacks. Plus total cost was around $200 delivered. I've really liked them and wanted all new components in a life-safety system. If you wanted to rebuild yours they also provide repair services and rewebbing. Mike Reilly ________________________________ From: Mike & Elizabeth <mbefthomas2@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, June 2, 2025 9:27 AM To: 'JOHN NEAL' <jrnealjr@aol.com>; asajay@asajay.com <asajay@asajay.com>; terry.himes@pncnet.com <terry.himes@pncnet.com> Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Re: Opinion and Feedback - Seat Belt Source I thought it was in this thread but could not find it. I need a source to have the belts for 6328 redone. I would prefer to use the original sill plates. 6328 is a 3-point belt with retractors on both ends. Mike Thomas -----Original Message----- From: JOHN NEAL via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2025 12:16 PM To: asajay@asajay.com; terry.himes@pncnet.com Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Re: Opinion and Feedback 72-74 and L models should have both. Body service 51640 and after. Lap belt pulls out from the rocker panel and the shoulder belt goes to the top bulkhead bolt then down to the bottom roller with the black cover. In a message dated 5/28/2025 1:10:39 PM Central Daylight Time, detomaso@server.detomasolist.com writes: Black. My opinion. 😁 Asa Jay MSgT, USAFR, Retired “Within the covers of the Bible are the answers for all the problems men face.” Ronald Reagan On May 28, 2025, at 10:21, Terry Himes <terry.himes@pncnet.com> wrote: I know you all have options, so I am soliciting your feedback. #1 I need to replace the seatbelts and need some feedback on sources anyone has had success with. #2 My 1974 Pantera is bright yellow (attached) black interior. When I’m ready to sell… would yellow seat belts be, a) Awesome b) Cheezy Terry Example Only: Seatbelt Planet - Reweb Service - Single Retractor Seat Belt - Image 5 "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes Princeton Networks Corporation President Cell: (818) 653-8213 Deep Space Mission Systems (818) 653-8213 [1]terry.himes@pncnet.com JPL (RED) Deep Space Exploration – Mission Operations Mars 2020 (Perseverance) Rover Relay Mars 2020 (Ingenuity) Helicopter Relay Psyche Orbiter Europa Lander Science Support Team Odyssey Sequence Team TGO Sequence Lead MEX Sequence Lead Spitzer Space Telescope Data Team Dawn Spacecraft Team signature_117325739 References 1. mailto:terry.himes@pncnet.com <20250417_135920.jpg> _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list -- detomaso@server.detomasolist.com To unsubscribe send an email to detomaso-leave@server.detomasolist.com To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. 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They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list -- detomaso@server.detomasolist.com To unsubscribe send an email to detomaso-leave@server.detomasolist.com To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. Mike, I went through this in 2019 with my 74 Pantera. I researched the forum, email lists and other sources and decided net new would be better than rebuilding. I ended up buying a 3-point set from Seatbelt Planet (model 30512010 - 3 Point Retractable Lap & Shoulder). They have the nice GT5S style female receivers and allowed me to retain use of the original sill plates. They assemble in the U.S. and are Veteran owned. They only have one retractor reel in the back firewall mount, which I have found works better than the original design. I did have to modify the metal covers to cover the reel in the back firewall, but it blends in fine and is behind my seatbacks. Plus total cost was around $200 delivered. I've really liked them and wanted all new components in a life-safety system. If you wanted to rebuild yours they also provide repair services and rewebbing. Mike Reilly __________________________________________________________________ From: Mike & Elizabeth <mbefthomas2@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, June 2, 2025 9:27 AM To: 'JOHN NEAL' <jrnealjr@aol.com>; asajay@asajay.com <asajay@asajay.com>; terry.himes@pncnet.com <terry.himes@pncnet.com> Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Re: Opinion and Feedback - Seat Belt Source I thought it was in this thread but could not find it. I need a source to have the belts for 6328 redone. I would prefer to use the original sill plates. 6328 is a 3-point belt with retractors on both ends. Mike Thomas -----Original Message----- From: JOHN NEAL via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2025 12:16 PM To: asajay@asajay.com; terry.himes@pncnet.com Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Re: Opinion and Feedback 72-74 and L models should have both. Body service 51640 and after. Lap belt pulls out from the rocker panel and the shoulder belt goes to the top bulkhead bolt then down to the bottom roller with the black cover. In a message dated 5/28/2025 1:10:39 PM Central Daylight Time, detomaso@server.detomasolist.com writes: Black. My opinion. 😁 Asa Jay MSgT, USAFR, Retired “Within the covers of the Bible are the answers for all the problems men face.” Ronald Reagan On May 28, 2025, at 10:21, Terry Himes <terry.himes@pncnet.com> wrote: I know you all have options, so I am soliciting your feedback. #1 I need to replace the seatbelts and need some feedback on sources anyone has had success with. #2 My 1974 Pantera is bright yellow (attached) black interior. When I’m ready to sell… would yellow seat belts be, a) Awesome b) Cheezy Terry Example Only: Seatbelt Planet - Reweb Service - Single Retractor Seat Belt - Image 5 "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. 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