Re: Best Insurance for your Pantera
Hagerty, hands-down! They are a little pricier than some of the other "collector car" insurance policies out there, but with Hagerty you can actually DRIVE your car! They WANT you to drive it, because it grows the hobby (and their potential market). But where Hagerty REALLY SHINES is when it comes to handling CLAIMS!!! Myself and several other friends have had very favorable claims experience with Hagerty. No nickel and diming me to death on properly repairing my car. Just a focus on getting it done correctly! You don't want to purchase a discount policy from some other insurer, and then discover when you have a claim why they were priced at a discount. Cheers! Garth#4033 On Monday, June 9, 2025 at 09:43:24 AM PDT, detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com <detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com> wrote: Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to detomaso@server.detomasolist.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com You can reach the person managing the list at detomaso-owner@server.detomasolist.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." Daily Detomaso List Digest Today's Topics: 1. Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 252, Issue 22 (George Scott) 2. Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 252, Issue 22 (jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com) 3. Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 252, Issue 22 (David) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2025 15:19:50 +0000 (UTC) From: George Scott <georgegfs26@yahoo.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 252, Issue 22 To: "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Message-ID: <300595945.806808.1749482390624@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_806807_277948919.1749482390621" Where/ who is the best for insurance on my Pantera? Asking for advice for insurance! On Sunday, June 8, 2025 at 10:09:00 AM CDT, <detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com> wrote: Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to detomaso@server.detomasolist.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com You can reach the person managing the list at detomaso-owner@server.detomasolist.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." Daily Detomaso List Digest Today's Topics: 1. Need Gage and Switch Connection Diagrams (Mike & Elizabeth) 2. Re: Need Gage and Switch Connection Diagrams (Jo De Tomaso) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2025 22:54:08 -0700 From: "Mike & Elizabeth" <mbefthomas2@gmail.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Need Gage and Switch Connection Diagrams To: <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Message-ID: <024201dbd839$c039cab0$40ad6010$@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0243_01DBD7FF.13DAF2B0" Lost my cheat sheet, does someone have a guide as to which wires go to which terminals on the gages and switches in the center console? Thanks Mike Thomas Hagerty, hands-down! They are a little pricier than some of the other "collector car" insurance policies out there, but with Hagerty you can actually DRIVE your car! They WANT you to drive it, because it grows the hobby (and their potential market). But where Hagerty REALLY SHINES is when it comes to handling CLAIMS!!! Myself and several other friends have had very favorable claims experience with Hagerty. No nickel and diming me to death on properly repairing my car. Just a focus on getting it done correctly! You don't want to purchase a discount policy from some other insurer, and then discover when you have a claim why they were priced at a discount. Cheers! Garth #4033 On Monday, June 9, 2025 at 09:43:24 AM PDT, detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com <detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com> wrote: Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to [1]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [2]detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com You can reach the person managing the list at [3]detomaso-owner@server.detomasolist.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." Daily Detomaso List Digest Today's Topics: 1. Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 252, Issue 22 (George Scott) 2. Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 252, Issue 22 (jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com) 3. Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 252, Issue 22 (David) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2025 15:19:50 +0000 (UTC) From: George Scott <[4]georgegfs26@yahoo.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 252, Issue 22 To: "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[5]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Message-ID: <[6]300595945.806808.1749482390624@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_806807_277948919.1749482390621" Where/ who is the best for insurance on my Pantera? Asking for advice for insurance! On Sunday, June 8, 2025 at 10:09:00 AM CDT, <[7]detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com> wrote: Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to [8]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [9]detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com You can reach the person managing the list at [10]detomaso-owner@server.detomasolist.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." Daily Detomaso List Digest Today's Topics: 1. Need Gage and Switch Connection Diagrams (Mike & Elizabeth) 2. Re: Need Gage and Switch Connection Diagrams (Jo De Tomaso) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2025 22:54:08 -0700 From: "Mike & Elizabeth" <[11]mbefthomas2@gmail.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Need Gage and Switch Connection Diagrams To: <[12]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Message-ID: <024201dbd839$c039cab0$40ad6010$@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0243_01DBD7FF.13DAF2B0" Lost my cheat sheet, does someone have a guide as to which wires go to which terminals on the gages and switches in the center console? Thanks Mike Thomas
Well said Garth Larry On 6/9/25, 3:11 PM, "Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> wrote: Hagerty, hands-down! They are a little pricier than some of the other "collector car" insurance policies out there, but with Hagerty you can actually DRIVE your car! They WANT you to drive it, because it grows the hobby (and their potential market). But where Hagerty REALLY SHINES is when it comes to handling CLAIMS!!! Myself and several other friends have had very favorable claims experience with Hagerty. No nickel and diming me to death on properly repairing my car. Just a focus on getting it done correctly! You don't want to purchase a discount policy from some other insurer, and then discover when you have a claim why they were priced at a discount. Cheers! Garth #4033 On Monday, June 9, 2025 at 09:43:24 AM PDT, detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com> <detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com>> wrote: Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to [1]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [2]detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com> You can reach the person managing the list at [3]detomaso-owner@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-owner@server.detomasolist.com> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." Daily Detomaso List Digest Today's Topics: 1. Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 252, Issue 22 (George Scott) 2. Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 252, Issue 22 (jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com <mailto:jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com>) 3. Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 252, Issue 22 (David) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2025 15:19:50 +0000 (UTC) From: George Scott <[4]georgegfs26@yahoo.com <mailto:georgegfs26@yahoo.com>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 252, Issue 22 To: "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>" <[5]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Message-ID: <[6]300595945.806808.1749482390624@mail.yahoo.com <mailto:300595945.806808.1749482390624@mail.yahoo.com>> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_806807_277948919.1749482390621" Where/ who is the best for insurance on my Pantera? Asking for advice for insurance! On Sunday, June 8, 2025 at 10:09:00 AM CDT, <[7]detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com>> wrote: Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to [8]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [9]detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com> You can reach the person managing the list at [10]detomaso-owner@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-owner@server.detomasolist.com> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." Daily Detomaso List Digest Today's Topics: 1. Need Gage and Switch Connection Diagrams (Mike & Elizabeth) 2. Re: Need Gage and Switch Connection Diagrams (Jo De Tomaso) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2025 22:54:08 -0700 From: "Mike & Elizabeth" <[11]mbefthomas2@gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2@gmail.com>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Need Gage and Switch Connection Diagrams To: <[12]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Message-ID: <024201dbd839$c039cab0$40ad6010$@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0243_01DBD7FF.13DAF2B0" Lost my cheat sheet, does someone have a guide as to which wires go to which terminals on the gages and switches in the center console? Thanks Mike Thomas
An alternate viewpoint (as much as I love Garth & Larry).....
I have been a huge advocate of Hagerty for over 20 years but I'm now done. They have been bought by a much larger company, and everything (incl terms and personal touch) have changed and continue to change for the worse (for us).
They're not the Hagerty of old... word to the wise.
Tony
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Subject: [DeTomaso] Re: Best Insurance for your Pantera
Hagerty, hands-down!
They are a little pricier than some of the other "collector car" insurance policies out there, but with Hagerty you can actually DRIVE your car! They WANT you to drive it, because it grows the hobby (and their potential market).
But where Hagerty REALLY SHINES is when it comes to handling CLAIMS!!! Myself and several other friends have had very favorable claims experience with Hagerty. No nickel and diming me to death on properly repairing my car. Just a focus on getting it done correctly!
You don't want to purchase a discount policy from some other insurer, and then discover when you have a claim why they were priced at a discount.
Cheers!
Garth#4033
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Lost my cheat sheet, does someone have a guide as to which wires go to which
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Mike Thomas
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Mike, this one?
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> which terminals on the gages and switches in the center console?
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> Thanks
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> Mike Thomas
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I don't know if it is the best but I have used Hagerty for years and have been pleased. Rate seems fair.
Jim
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Where/ who is the best for insurance on my Pantera? Asking for advice for insurance!
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>to
> which terminals on the gages and switches in the center console?
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> Thanks
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> Mike Thomas
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Thanks
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I use Heacock. I insure 3 cars at full value and only pay $1100 a year.
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An alternate viewpoint (as much as I love Garth & Larry).....
I have been a huge advocate of Hagerty for over 20 years but I'm now
done. They have been bought by a much larger company, and everything
(incl terms and personal touch) have changed and continue to change for
the worse (for us).
They're not the Hagerty of old... word to the wise.
Tony
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<georgegfs26@yahoo.com>
Subject: [DeTomaso] Re: Best Insurance for your Pantera
Hagerty, hands-down!
They are a little pricier than some of the other "collector car"
insurance policies out there, but with Hagerty you can actually DRIVE
your car! They WANT you to drive it, because it grows the hobby (and
their potential market).
But where Hagerty REALLY SHINES is when it comes to handling CLAIMS!!!
Myself and several other friends have had very favorable claims
experience with Hagerty. No nickel and diming me to death on properly
repairing my car. Just a focus on getting it done correctly!
You don't want to purchase a discount policy from some other insurer,
and then discover when you have a claim why they were priced at a
discount.
Cheers!
Garth#4033
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Where/ who is the best for insurance on my Pantera? Asking for
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Lost my cheat sheet, does someone have a guide as to which wires go to
which
terminals on the gages and switches in the center console?
Thanks
Mike Thomas
Dear Tony, Interesting. FYI. " In December 2021, Hagerty went public by merging with Aldel Financial, a SPAC, under the symbol HGTY. The merger deal was valued at $3.13 billion." Aldel Financial: https://aldelfinancial.com/ It does appear that the current Hagerty may well not be the same pre-2021 Hagerty. Warmest regards, Chuck Engles -----Original Message----- From: Tony Blevins [mailto:fun_tonyb@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2025 8:51 PM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; George Scott; Garth Rodericks Subject: [DeTomaso] Re: Best Insurance for your Pantera An alternate viewpoint (as much as I love Garth & Larry)..... I have been a huge advocate of Hagerty for over 20 years but I'm now done. They have been bought by a much larger company, and everything (incl terms and personal touch) have changed and continue to change for the worse (for us). They're not the Hagerty of old... word to the wise. Tony ________________________________ From: Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Monday, June 9, 2025 3:11 PM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>; George Scott <georgegfs26@yahoo.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Re: Best Insurance for your Pantera Hagerty, hands-down! They are a little pricier than some of the other "collector car" insurance policies out there, but with Hagerty you can actually DRIVE your car! They WANT you to drive it, because it grows the hobby (and their potential market). But where Hagerty REALLY SHINES is when it comes to handling CLAIMS!!! Myself and several other friends have had very favorable claims experience with Hagerty. No nickel and diming me to death on properly repairing my car. Just a focus on getting it done correctly! You don't want to purchase a discount policy from some other insurer, and then discover when you have a claim why they were priced at a discount. Cheers! Garth#4033 On Monday, June 9, 2025 at 09:43:24 AM PDT, detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com <detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com> wrote: Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to detomaso@server.detomasolist.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com You can reach the person managing the list at detomaso-owner@server.detomasolist.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." Daily Detomaso List Digest Today's Topics: 1. Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 252, Issue 22 (George Scott) 2. Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 252, Issue 22 (jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com) 3. Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 252, Issue 22 (David) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2025 15:19:50 +0000 (UTC) From: George Scott <georgegfs26@yahoo.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 252, Issue 22 To: "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Message-ID: <300595945.806808.1749482390624@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_806807_277948919.1749482390621" Where/ who is the best for insurance on my Pantera? Asking for advice for insurance! On Sunday, June 8, 2025 at 10:09:00 AM CDT, <detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com> wrote: Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to detomaso@server.detomasolist.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com You can reach the person managing the list at detomaso-owner@server.detomasolist.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." Daily Detomaso List Digest Today's Topics: 1. Need Gage and Switch Connection Diagrams (Mike & Elizabeth) 2. Re: Need Gage and Switch Connection Diagrams (Jo De Tomaso) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2025 22:54:08 -0700 From: "Mike & Elizabeth" <mbefthomas2@gmail.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Need Gage and Switch Connection Diagrams To: <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Message-ID: <024201dbd839$c039cab0$40ad6010$@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0243_01DBD7FF.13DAF2B0" Lost my cheat sheet, does someone have a guide as to which wires go to which terminals on the gages and switches in the center console? Thanks Mike Thomas
I sure hope not, but I guess I'll see it first by selling the parts they might need to repair customer Pantera's. So far all is well. But we will see. Larry On 6/9/25, 6:51 PM, "Tony Blevins" <fun_tonyb@hotmail.com <mailto:fun_tonyb@hotmail.com>> wrote: An alternate viewpoint (as much as I love Garth & Larry)..... I have been a huge advocate of Hagerty for over 20 years but I'm now done. They have been bought by a much larger company, and everything (incl terms and personal touch) have changed and continue to change for the worse (for us). They're not the Hagerty of old... word to the wise. Tony __________________________________________________________________ From: Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Sent: Monday, June 9, 2025 3:11 PM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>>; George Scott <georgegfs26@yahoo.com <mailto:georgegfs26@yahoo.com>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Re: Best Insurance for your Pantera Hagerty, hands-down! They are a little pricier than some of the other "collector car" insurance policies out there, but with Hagerty you can actually DRIVE your car! They WANT you to drive it, because it grows the hobby (and their potential market). But where Hagerty REALLY SHINES is when it comes to handling CLAIMS!!! Myself and several other friends have had very favorable claims experience with Hagerty. No nickel and diming me to death on properly repairing my car. Just a focus on getting it done correctly! You don't want to purchase a discount policy from some other insurer, and then discover when you have a claim why they were priced at a discount. Cheers! Garth#4033 On Monday, June 9, 2025 at 09:43:24 AM PDT, detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com> <detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com>> wrote: Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com> You can reach the person managing the list at detomaso-owner@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-owner@server.detomasolist.com> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." Daily Detomaso List Digest Today's Topics: 1. Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 252, Issue 22 (George Scott) 2. Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 252, Issue 22 (jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com <mailto:jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com>) 3. Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 252, Issue 22 (David) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2025 15:19:50 +0000 (UTC) From: George Scott <georgegfs26@yahoo.com <mailto:georgegfs26@yahoo.com>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 252, Issue 22 To: "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Message-ID: <300595945.806808.1749482390624@mail.yahoo.com <mailto:300595945.806808.1749482390624@mail.yahoo.com>> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_806807_277948919.1749482390621" Where/ who is the best for insurance on my Pantera? Asking for advice for insurance! On Sunday, June 8, 2025 at 10:09:00 AM CDT, <detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com>> wrote: Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com> You can reach the person managing the list at detomaso-owner@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-owner@server.detomasolist.com> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." Daily Detomaso List Digest Today's Topics: 1. Need Gage and Switch Connection Diagrams (Mike & Elizabeth) 2. Re: Need Gage and Switch Connection Diagrams (Jo De Tomaso) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2025 22:54:08 -0700 From: "Mike & Elizabeth" <mbefthomas2@gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2@gmail.com>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Need Gage and Switch Connection Diagrams To: <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Message-ID: <024201dbd839$c039cab0$40ad6010$@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0243_01DBD7FF.13DAF2B0" Lost my cheat sheet, does someone have a guide as to which wires go to which terminals on the gages and switches in the center console? Thanks Mike Thomas
All, I was very late to the Hagerty party. For more than 30 years I went through Heacock and was very satisfied. I would occasionally inquire with Hagerty and they were rather offensive—they had a 100% premium markup for any car they deemed to be modified. In my case, the presence of five-point harnesses and a fire extinguisher (both things that would tend to lower their financial exposure) triggered the doubling of my premiums, so I never went with them. Then last year, two things changed. I bought a concours collectible motorcycle (1979 Yamaha. RD400F Daytona Special) and completed the restoration of another highly collectible bike, a 1983 Kawasaki KZ1000R Superbike Replica. I tried adding them to my existing Heacock policy, but they would not give me anything but bare minimum liability coverage for them. That would leave me woefully exposed in the event of an at-fault accident. The more significant change was the introduction of Keith Euranius. He is a local agent for Hagerty, and has been named one of the top 20 agents in the USA. He does nothing else apart from serve as an agent for Hagerty, he earns his commission from them instead of the clients (that is, the price you pay is the same regardless of whether you go through him or through the drones at the call center), and he was able to do away with the surcharges for modifications. Hagerty offers coverages that no other companies offer, such as earthquake coverage (which is a thing here in California), and they are also very understanding and accommodating of cars that are stored offsite, as mine is occasionally. So I switched. I wound up paying a bit more than I was before in exchange for substantially more and better coverage. And in the event of a claim, or even if I just have a question, I have a GUY I can reach out to, who acts as my advocate, both before and after a claim. I actually had a broken windshield claim with Heacock on my GT350 while I was contemplating the switch. Keith acted like I was his client already, and he was able to find me a classic car glass specialist, somebody who ONLY works on classic cars, and made all the arrangements for me to get mine fixed, even though I was not yet a Hagerty client. And coincidentally this business was only ten minutes from my house. That sort of service is priceless. Heacock processed the claim with zero issues so I have no complaints about that. But still, I’m glad I switched. If you are an existing Hagerty customer anywhere in California or Texas, if you call him, he can be placed onto your policy at no additional cost to you, and then you can have your own guy to talk with also. Here is his website: [1]Home [2]rpminsurancegroup.com [3]favicon.ico Fair warning—he comes across very much like a used car salesman, and that can put people off. But he is completely sincere and highly committed to providing top-notch service, so if you can get past the sales patter, you will be highly satisfied going forward. Cheers! Mike Sent from my iPad On Jun 9, 2025, at 21:01, Tony Blevins <fun_tonyb@hotmail.com> wrote: An alternate viewpoint (as much as I love Garth & Larry)..... I have been a huge advocate of Hagerty for over 20 years but I'm now done. They have been bought by a much larger company, and everything (incl terms and personal touch) have changed and continue to change for the worse (for us). They're not the Hagerty of old... word to the wise. Tony __________________________________________________________________ From: Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Monday, June 9, 2025 3:11 PM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>; George Scott <georgegfs26@yahoo.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Re: Best Insurance for your Pantera Hagerty, hands-down! They are a little pricier than some of the other "collector car" insurance policies out there, but with Hagerty you can actually DRIVE your car! They WANT you to drive it, because it grows the hobby (and their potential market). But where Hagerty REALLY SHINES is when it comes to handling CLAIMS!!! Myself and several other friends have had very favorable claims experience with Hagerty. No nickel and diming me to death on properly repairing my car. Just a focus on getting it done correctly! You don't want to purchase a discount policy from some other insurer, and then discover when you have a claim why they were priced at a discount. Cheers! Garth#4033 On Monday, June 9, 2025 at 09:43:24 AM PDT, detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com <detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com> wrote: Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to detomaso@server.detomasolist.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com You can reach the person managing the list at detomaso-owner@server.detomasolist.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." Daily Detomaso List Digest Today's Topics: 1. Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 252, Issue 22 (George Scott) 2. Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 252, Issue 22 (jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com) 3. Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 252, Issue 22 (David) --------------------------------------------------------------------- - Message: 1 Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2025 15:19:50 +0000 (UTC) From: George Scott <georgegfs26@yahoo.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 252, Issue 22 To: "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Message-ID: <300595945.806808.1749482390624@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_806807_277948919.1749482390621" Where/ who is the best for insurance on my Pantera? Asking for advice for insurance! On Sunday, June 8, 2025 at 10:09:00 AM CDT, <detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com> wrote: Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to detomaso@server.detomasolist.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com You can reach the person managing the list at detomaso-owner@server.detomasolist.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." Daily Detomaso List Digest Today's Topics: 1. Need Gage and Switch Connection Diagrams (Mike & Elizabeth) 2. Re: Need Gage and Switch Connection Diagrams (Jo De Tomaso) --------------------------------------------------------------------- - Message: 1 Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2025 22:54:08 -0700 From: "Mike & Elizabeth" <mbefthomas2@gmail.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Need Gage and Switch Connection Diagrams To: <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Message-ID: <024201dbd839$c039cab0$40ad6010$@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0243_01DBD7FF.13DAF2B0" Lost my cheat sheet, does someone have a guide as to which wires go to which terminals on the gages and switches in the center console? Thanks Mike Thomas
That’s a GREAT example of the “Hagerty” difference. I was with a different Insurance Co., but switched to Hagerty years ago because they were (still are) the lead sponsor of a series of "Classic Car Adventure" rallies that I have had great experiences on. Some other Pantera owners will be familiar with these CCA Rallies as there is one in Oregon and another in Colorado/Utah on which I have seen several Panteras (check out: classiccaradventures.com <http://classicaradventures.com/>). As Garth noted, an Insurance Co. that WANTS you to drive your car, yet also recognizes how carefully you look after it as part of their process when calculating rates, beats a numbers-only approach every day in my book. Hagerty also has a fantastic Magazine (as part of their “Driver’s Club”), a roadside assistance inclusion (which I didn’t have great responses from) and, importantly in my view, a “Cherished Salvage” option which does NOT "write off" your car after a major or complete loss/pay-out, but DOES allow you to get paid AND keep a clean title to the vehicle. This was a huge plus for me as I have several quite rare cars. Hagerty also has a “Private Client” group for those who have a collection of vehicles. There are a few more perks and benefits, plus slightly lower rates as well (all based on total collection value). For example, my GT40 replica would not normally be covered by Hagerty (I’m in Canada where rules are a bit different) but, because it’s part of a larger collection, they accepted and cover it. I personally have (fortunately) have NOT had any first-hand claims experience, but I’ve had several accounts of a smooth and fair process, much the way Mike has described. Cheers, Mark Charlton pantera@homecharlton.ca
On Jun 10, 2025, at 12:02 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
All,
I was very late to the Hagerty party. For more than 30 years I went through Heacock and was very satisfied. I would occasionally inquire with Hagerty and they were rather offensive—they had a 100% premium markup for any car they deemed to be modified. In my case, the presence of five-point harnesses and a fire extinguisher (both things that would tend to lower their financial exposure) triggered the doubling of my premiums, so I never went with them. Then last year, two things changed. I bought a concours collectible motorcycle (1979 Yamaha. RD400F Daytona Special) and completed the restoration of another highly collectible bike, a 1983 Kawasaki KZ1000R Superbike Replica. I tried adding them to my existing Heacock policy, but they would not give me anything but bare minimum liability coverage for them. That would leave me woefully exposed in the event of an at-fault accident. The more significant change was the introduction of Keith Euranius. He is a local agent for Hagerty, and has been named one of the top 20 agents in the USA. He does nothing else apart from serve as an agent for Hagerty, he earns his commission from them instead of the clients (that is, the price you pay is the same regardless of whether you go through him or through the drones at the call center), and he was able to do away with the surcharges for modifications. Hagerty offers coverages that no other companies offer, such as earthquake coverage (which is a thing here in California), and they are also very understanding and accommodating of cars that are stored offsite, as mine is occasionally. So I switched. I wound up paying a bit more than I was before in exchange for substantially more and better coverage. And in the event of a claim, or even if I just have a question, I have a GUY I can reach out to, who acts as my advocate, both before and after a claim. I actually had a broken windshield claim with Heacock on my GT350 while I was contemplating the switch. Keith acted like I was his client already, and he was able to find me a classic car glass specialist, somebody who ONLY works on classic cars, and made all the arrangements for me to get mine fixed, even though I was not yet a Hagerty client. And coincidentally this business was only ten minutes from my house. That sort of service is priceless. Heacock processed the claim with zero issues so I have no complaints about that. But still, I’m glad I switched. If you are an existing Hagerty customer anywhere in California or Texas, if you call him, he can be placed onto your policy at no additional cost to you, and then you can have your own guy to talk with also. Here is his website: [1]Home [2]rpminsurancegroup.com <http://rpminsurancegroup.com/> [3]favicon.ico Fair warning—he comes across very much like a used car salesman, and that can put people off. But he is completely sincere and highly committed to providing top-notch service, so if you can get past the sales patter, you will be highly satisfied going forward. Cheers! Mike Sent from my iPad
On Jun 9, 2025, at 21:01, Tony Blevins <fun_tonyb@hotmail.com <mailto:fun_tonyb@hotmail.com>> wrote:
An alternate viewpoint (as much as I love Garth & Larry)..... I have been a huge advocate of Hagerty for over 20 years but I'm now done. They have been bought by a much larger company, and everything (incl terms and personal touch) have changed and continue to change for the worse (for us). They're not the Hagerty of old... word to the wise. Tony __________________________________________________________________ From: Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Sent: Monday, June 9, 2025 3:11 PM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>>; George Scott <georgegfs26@yahoo.com <mailto:georgegfs26@yahoo.com>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Re: Best Insurance for your Pantera Hagerty, hands-down! They are a little pricier than some of the other "collector car" insurance policies out there, but with Hagerty you can actually DRIVE your car! They WANT you to drive it, because it grows the hobby (and their potential market). But where Hagerty REALLY SHINES is when it comes to handling CLAIMS!!! Myself and several other friends have had very favorable claims experience with Hagerty. No nickel and diming me to death on properly repairing my car. Just a focus on getting it done correctly! You don't want to purchase a discount policy from some other insurer, and then discover when you have a claim why they were priced at a discount. Cheers! Garth#4033 On Monday, June 9, 2025 at 09:43:24 AM PDT, detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com> <detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com>> wrote: Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com> You can reach the person managing the list at detomaso-owner@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-owner@server.detomasolist.com> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." Daily Detomaso List Digest Today's Topics: 1. Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 252, Issue 22 (George Scott) 2. Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 252, Issue 22 (jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com <mailto:jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com>) 3. Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 252, Issue 22 (David) --------------------------------------------------------------------- - Message: 1 Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2025 15:19:50 +0000 (UTC) From: George Scott <georgegfs26@yahoo.com <mailto:georgegfs26@yahoo.com>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 252, Issue 22 To: "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Message-ID: <300595945.806808.1749482390624@mail.yahoo.com <mailto:300595945.806808.1749482390624@mail.yahoo.com>> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_806807_277948919.1749482390621" Where/ who is the best for insurance on my Pantera? Asking for advice for insurance! On Sunday, June 8, 2025 at 10:09:00 AM CDT, <detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com>> wrote: Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com> You can reach the person managing the list at detomaso-owner@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-owner@server.detomasolist.com> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." Daily Detomaso List Digest Today's Topics: 1. Need Gage and Switch Connection Diagrams (Mike & Elizabeth) 2. Re: Need Gage and Switch Connection Diagrams (Jo De Tomaso) --------------------------------------------------------------------- - Message: 1 Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2025 22:54:08 -0700 From: "Mike & Elizabeth" <mbefthomas2@gmail.com <mailto:mbefthomas2@gmail.com>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Need Gage and Switch Connection Diagrams To: <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Message-ID: <024201dbd839$c039cab0$40ad6010$@gmail.com <mailto:024201dbd839$c039cab0$40ad6010$@gmail.com>> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0243_01DBD7FF.13DAF2B0" Lost my cheat sheet, does someone have a guide as to which wires go to which terminals on the gages and switches in the center console? Thanks Mike Thomas
That’s a GREAT example of the “Hagerty” difference. I was with a different Insurance Co., but switched to Hagerty years ago because they were (still are) the lead sponsor of a series of "Classic Car Adventure" rallies that I have had great experiences on. Some other Pantera owners will be familiar with these CCA Rallies as there is one in Oregon and another in Colorado/Utah on which I have seen several Panteras (check out: [1]classiccaradventures.com). As Garth noted, an Insurance Co. that WANTS you to drive your car, yet also recognizes how carefully you look after it as part of their process when calculating rates, beats a numbers-only approach every day in my book. Hagerty also has a fantastic Magazine (as part of their “Driver’s Club”), a roadside assistance inclusion (which I didn’t have great responses from) and, importantly in my view, a “Cherished Salvage” option which does NOT "write off" your car after a major or complete loss/pay-out, but DOES allow you to get paid AND keep a clean title to the vehicle. This was a huge plus for me as I have several quite rare cars. Hagerty also has a “Private Client” group for those who have a collection of vehicles. There are a few more perks and benefits, plus slightly lower rates as well (all based on total collection value). For example, my GT40 replica would not normally be covered by Hagerty (I’m in Canada where rules are a bit different) but, because it’s part of a larger collection, they accepted and cover it. I personally have (fortunately) have NOT had any first-hand claims experience, but I’ve had several accounts of a smooth and fair process, much the way Mike has described. Cheers, Mark Charlton pantera@homecharlton.ca On Jun 10, 2025, at 12:02 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote: All, I was very late to the Hagerty party. For more than 30 years I went through Heacock and was very satisfied. I would occasionally inquire with Hagerty and they were rather offensive—they had a 100% premium markup for any car they deemed to be modified. In my case, the presence of five-point harnesses and a fire extinguisher (both things that would tend to lower their financial exposure) triggered the doubling of my premiums, so I never went with them. Then last year, two things changed. I bought a concours collectible motorcycle (1979 Yamaha. RD400F Daytona Special) and completed the restoration of another highly collectible bike, a 1983 Kawasaki KZ1000R Superbike Replica. I tried adding them to my existing Heacock policy, but they would not give me anything but bare minimum liability coverage for them. That would leave me woefully exposed in the event of an at-fault accident. The more significant change was the introduction of Keith Euranius. He is a local agent for Hagerty, and has been named one of the top 20 agents in the USA. He does nothing else apart from serve as an agent for Hagerty, he earns his commission from them instead of the clients (that is, the price you pay is the same regardless of whether you go through him or through the drones at the call center), and he was able to do away with the surcharges for modifications. Hagerty offers coverages that no other companies offer, such as earthquake coverage (which is a thing here in California), and they are also very understanding and accommodating of cars that are stored offsite, as mine is occasionally. So I switched. I wound up paying a bit more than I was before in exchange for substantially more and better coverage. And in the event of a claim, or even if I just have a question, I have a GUY I can reach out to, who acts as my advocate, both before and after a claim. I actually had a broken windshield claim with Heacock on my GT350 while I was contemplating the switch. Keith acted like I was his client already, and he was able to find me a classic car glass specialist, somebody who ONLY works on classic cars, and made all the arrangements for me to get mine fixed, even though I was not yet a Hagerty client. And coincidentally this business was only ten minutes from my house. That sort of service is priceless. Heacock processed the claim with zero issues so I have no complaints about that. But still, I’m glad I switched. If you are an existing Hagerty customer anywhere in California or Texas, if you call him, he can be placed onto your policy at no additional cost to you, and then you can have your own guy to talk with also. Here is his website: [1]Home [2][2]rpminsurancegroup.com [3]favicon.ico Fair warning—he comes across very much like a used car salesman, and that can put people off. But he is completely sincere and highly committed to providing top-notch service, so if you can get past the sales patter, you will be highly satisfied going forward. Cheers! Mike Sent from my iPad On Jun 9, 2025, at 21:01, Tony Blevins <[3]fun_tonyb@hotmail.com> wrote: An alternate viewpoint (as much as I love Garth & Larry)..... I have been a huge advocate of Hagerty for over 20 years but I'm now done. They have been bought by a much larger company, and everything (incl terms and personal touch) have changed and continue to change for the worse (for us). They're not the Hagerty of old... word to the wise. Tony ______________________________________________________________ ____ From: Garth Rodericks via DeTomaso <[4]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Monday, June 9, 2025 3:11 PM To: [5]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <[6]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>; George Scott <[7]georgegfs26@yahoo.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Re: Best Insurance for your Pantera Hagerty, hands-down! They are a little pricier than some of the other "collector car" insurance policies out there, but with Hagerty you can actually DRIVE your car! They WANT you to drive it, because it grows the hobby (and their potential market). But where Hagerty REALLY SHINES is when it comes to handling CLAIMS!!! Myself and several other friends have had very favorable claims experience with Hagerty. No nickel and diming me to death on properly repairing my car. Just a focus on getting it done correctly! You don't want to purchase a discount policy from some other insurer, and then discover when you have a claim why they were priced at a discount. Cheers! Garth#4033 On Monday, June 9, 2025 at 09:43:24 AM PDT, [8]detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com <[9]detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com> wrote: Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to [10]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [11]detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com You can reach the person managing the list at [12]detomaso-owner@server.detomasolist.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." Daily Detomaso List Digest Today's Topics: 1. Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 252, Issue 22 (George Scott) 2. Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 252, Issue 22 ([13]jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com) 3. Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 252, Issue 22 (David) ---------------------------------------------------------------- ----- - Message: 1 Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2025 15:19:50 +0000 (UTC) From: George Scott <[14]georgegfs26@yahoo.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Re: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 252, Issue 22 To: "[15]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[16]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Message-ID: <[17]300595945.806808.1749482390624@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_806807_277948919.1749482390621" Where/ who is the best for insurance on my Pantera? Asking for advice for insurance! On Sunday, June 8, 2025 at 10:09:00 AM CDT, <[18]detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com> wrote: Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to [19]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [20]detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com You can reach the person managing the list at [21]detomaso-owner@server.detomasolist.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." Daily Detomaso List Digest Today's Topics: 1. Need Gage and Switch Connection Diagrams (Mike & Elizabeth) 2. Re: Need Gage and Switch Connection Diagrams (Jo De Tomaso) ---------------------------------------------------------------- ----- - Message: 1 Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2025 22:54:08 -0700 From: "Mike & Elizabeth" <[22]mbefthomas2@gmail.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Need Gage and Switch Connection Diagrams To: <[23]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Message-ID: <[24]024201dbd839$c039cab0$40ad6010$@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0243_01DBD7FF.13DAF2B0" Lost my cheat sheet, does someone have a guide as to which wires go to which terminals on the gages and switches in the center console? 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Tony Blevins