
Kurt, Fyi, thought you may want to know of censorship on the new POCA.com forum since he had so much criticism of the old detomaso list. From: mailer@mail2.clubexpress.com To: Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 21:17:51 -0500 Subject: re: Let's get to talking To: no_reply@mail2.clubexpress.com View/reply online Reply directly to Larry Finch at fresnofinches@aol.com I have now posted the following reply to this thread six times. Five times it has disappeared. No forum moderator has contacted me regarding this post. It just disappears. My other posts in other topic threads remain. This post, save for this preface, duplicates the five previous replies and again only contains quotes from a previous reply in this thread, made by POCA President Shortt, and a screen capture of information from the ClubExpress user manual. As it violates no known posting guidelines, I now post it for the sixth time. The facts it contains are certainly germane to this thread. ==================================================== Michael wrote: “…I would like to accommodate many of them, opening a part of the forums however is not possible, it is all or nothing with the software we employ from ClubExpress, it was always my intention to have a General forum open to all and the rest Member's Only, that's when i learned it was not possible. Not …… possible? Hmmmm? ===================================================== This is a screen capture from the 187-page ClubExpress User Manual. The link to it is available in your Profile area. ===================================================== Note the information regarding the options for forum Visibility. I am far from an IT savant, but as the ClubExpress manual lists forums as being visible by: … Public … Club Members Only … Forum Members only it would seem to contradict Mr. Shortt’s statement “…General forum open to all and the rest Members Only,…was not possible.” Larry You have received this message as a member of: Pantera Owner's Club of America Change preferences (including opt-out): Online Profile Kurt, Fyi, thought you may want to know of censorship on the new POCA.com forum since he had so much criticism of the old detomaso list. __________________________________________________________________ From: mailer@mail2.clubexpress.com To: Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 21:17:51 -0500 Subject: re: Let's get to talking To: no_reply@mail2.clubexpress.com View/reply [1]online Reply directly to Larry Finch at [2]fresnofinches@aol.com I have now posted the following reply to this thread six times. Five times it has disappeared. No forum moderator has contacted me regarding this post. It just disappears. My other posts in other topic threads remain. This post, save for this preface, duplicates the five previous replies and again only contains quotes from a previous reply in this thread, made by POCA President Shortt, and a screen capture of information from the ClubExpress user manual. As it violates no known posting guidelines, I now post it for the sixth time. The facts it contains are certainly germane to this thread. ==================================================== Michael wrote: I would like to accommodate many of them, opening a part of the forums however is not possible, it is all or nothing with the software we employ from ClubExpress, it was always my intention to have a General forum open to all and the rest Member's Only, that's when i learned it was not possible. Not possible? Hmmmm? ===================================================== This is a screen capture from the 187-page ClubExpress User Manual. The link to it is available in your Profile area. ===================================================== Note the information regarding the options for forum Visibility. I am far from an IT savant, but as the ClubExpress manual lists forums as being visible by: Public Club Members Only Forum Members only it would seem to contradict Mr. Shortts statement General forum open to all and the rest Members Only,was not possible. Larry You have received this message as a member of: Pantera Owner's Club of America Change preferences (including opt-out): [3]Online Profile References 1. http://POCA.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=2161&club_id=999896&item_id=606411&message_id=1491753 2. mailto:fresnofinches@aol.com?subject=re:Let's%20get%20to%20talking 3. https://POCA.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=13&club_id=999896

Hi Rod, Hope all is well with you. Wanted to let you know that Bill (SOBill) has handed off a set of tools to me to press out the factory control arm bushings. I promised to make them available to anyone who can pick them up and return them after use. Bill said he originally mailed them to people, but because of the weight of some of the pieces, the packages were tearing and parts were lost, so he gave up on that. It is pretty much all you need to do the work. I added a carbide tipped hole saw that is needed to cut away a flange on the outer sleeve and it makes the job faster and easier. Ken From: Rod Kunishige <rkunishige@hotmail.com> To: "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 7:17 AM Subject: [DeTomaso] FW: Let's get to talking Kurt, Fyi, thought you may want to know of censorship on the new POCA.com forum since he had so much criticism of the old detomaso list. __________________________________________________________________ From: mailer@mail2.clubexpress.com To: Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 21:17:51 -0500 Subject: re: Let's get to talking To: no_reply@mail2.clubexpress.com View/reply [1]online Reply directly to Larry Finch at [2]fresnofinches@aol.com I have now posted the following reply to this thread six times. Five times it has disappeared. No forum moderator has contacted me regarding this post. It just disappears. My other posts in other topic threads remain. This post, save for this preface, duplicates the five previous replies and again only contains quotes from a previous reply in this thread, made by POCA President Shortt, and a screen capture of information from the ClubExpress user manual. As it violates no known posting guidelines, I now post it for the sixth time. The facts it contains are certainly germane to this thread. ==================================================== Michael wrote: I would like to accommodate many of them, opening a part of the forums however is not possible, it is all or nothing with the software we employ from ClubExpress, it was always my intention to have a General forum open to all and the rest Member's Only, that's when i learned it was not possible. Not possible? Hmmmm? ===================================================== This is a screen capture from the 187-page ClubExpress User Manual. The link to it is available in your Profile area. ===================================================== Note the information regarding the options for forum Visibility. I am far from an IT savant, but as the ClubExpress manual lists forums as being visible by: Public Club Members Only Forum Members only it would seem to contradict Mr. Shortts statement General forum open to all and the rest Members Only,was not possible. Larry You have received this message as a member of: Pantera Owner's Club of America Change preferences (including opt-out): [3]Online Profile References 1. http://POCA.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=2161&club_id=999896&item_id=606411&message_id=1491753 2. mailto:fresnofinches@aol.com?subject=re:Let's%20get%20to%20talking 3. https://POCA.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=13&club_id=999896 _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Hi Rod, Hope all is well with you. Wanted to let you know that Bill (SOBill) has handed off a set of tools to me to press out the factory control arm bushings. I promised to make them available to anyone who can pick them up and return them after use. Bill said he originally mailed them to people, but because of the weight of some of the pieces, the packages were tearing and parts were lost, so he gave up on that. It is pretty much all you need to do the work. I added a carbide tipped hole saw that is needed to cut away a flange on the outer sleeve and it makes the job faster and easier. Ken __________________________________________________________________ From: Rod Kunishige <rkunishige@hotmail.com> To: "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 7:17 AM Subject: [DeTomaso] FW: Let's get to talking Kurt, Fyi, thought you may want to know of censorship on the new POCA.com forum since he had so much criticism of the old detomaso list. __________________________________________________________________ From: [1]mailer@mail2.clubexpress.com To: Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 21:17:51 -0500 Subject: re: Let's get to talking To: [2]no_reply@mail2.clubexpress.com View/reply [1]online Reply directly to Larry Finch at [2][3]fresnofinches@aol.com I have now posted the following reply to this thread six times. Five times it has disappeared. No forum moderator has contacted me regarding this post. It just disappears. My other posts in other topic threads remain. This post, save for this preface, duplicates the five previous replies and again only contains quotes from a previous reply in this thread, made by POCA President Shortt, and a screen capture of information from the ClubExpress user manual. As it violates no known posting guidelines, I now post it for the sixth time. The facts it contains are certainly germane to this thread. ==================================================== Michael wrote: I would like to accommodate many of them, opening a part of the forums however is not possible, it is all or nothing with the software we employ from ClubExpress, it was always my intention to have a General forum open to all and the rest Member's Only, that's when i learned it was not possible. Not possible? Hmmmm? ===================================================== This is a screen capture from the 187-page ClubExpress User Manual. The link to it is available in your Profile area. ===================================================== Note the information regarding the options for forum Visibility. I am far from an IT savant, but as the ClubExpress manual lists forums as being visible by: Public Club Members Only Forum Members only it would seem to contradict Mr. Shortts statement General forum open to all and the rest Members Only,was not possible. Larry You have received this message as a member of: Pantera Owner's Club of America Change preferences (including opt-out): [3]Online Profile References 1. [4]http://POCA.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=2161&club_id=999896 &item_id=606411&message_id=1491753 2. mailto:[5]fresnofinches@aol.com?subject=re:Let's%20get%20to%20talking 3. 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Is there a previous write up with photos, drawings and instructions of this kit. Joe/5177/NC -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:28 AM To: Rod Kunishige; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Let's get to talking Hi Rod, Hope all is well with you. Wanted to let you know that Bill (SOBill) has handed off a set of tools to me to press out the factory control arm bushings. I promised to make them available to anyone who can pick them up and return them after use. Bill said he originally mailed them to people, but because of the weight of some of the pieces, the packages were tearing and parts were lost, so he gave up on that. It is pretty much all you need to do the work. I added a carbide tipped hole saw that is needed to cut away a flange on the outer sleeve and it makes the job faster and easier. Ken

Pantera Place: http://www.panteraplace.com/ has descriptions of removing the stock bushings. Ken From: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <byrdjf@embarqmail.com> To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 8:53 AM Subject: [DeTomaso] SOBill's suspension tool kit Is there a previous write up with photos, drawings and instructions of this kit. Joe/5177/NC -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:28 AM To: Rod Kunishige; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Let's get to talking Hi Rod, Hope all is well with you. Wanted to let you know that Bill (SOBill) has handed off a set of tools to me to press out the factory control arm bushings. I promised to make them available to anyone who can pick them up and return them after use. Bill said he originally mailed them to people, but because of the weight of some of the pieces, the packages were tearing and parts were lost, so he gave up on that. It is pretty much all you need to do the work. I added a carbide tipped hole saw that is needed to cut away a flange on the outer sleeve and it makes the job faster and easier. Ken _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Pantera Place: http://www.panteraplace.com/ has descriptions of removing the stock bushings. Ken __________________________________________________________________ From: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <byrdjf@embarqmail.com> To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 8:53 AM Subject: [DeTomaso] SOBill's suspension tool kit Is there a previous write up with photos, drawings and instructions of this kit. Joe/5177/NC -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:[1]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Ken Green via DeTomaso Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 11:28 AM To: Rod Kunishige; [2]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: Let's get to talking Hi Rod, Hope all is well with you. Wanted to let you know that Bill (SOBill) has handed off a set of tools to me to press out the factory control arm bushings. I promised to make them available to anyone who can pick them up and return them after use. Bill said he originally mailed them to people, but because of the weight of some of the pieces, the packages were tearing and parts were lost, so he gave up on that. It is pretty much all you need to do the work. I added a carbide tipped hole saw that is needed to cut away a flange on the outer sleeve and it makes the job faster and easier. Ken _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [3]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [4]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. References 1. mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 2. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 3. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 4. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso

I stepped away from my desk for a minute, and when I came back, my PC was installing Windows 10. I did not select the update because some expensive software I have may not run under Windows 10. If you don't want this to happen, you have to change the setting in Widows Update to allow you to chose to install updates. Ken I stepped away from my desk for a minute, and when I came back, my PC was installing Windows 10. I did not select the update because some expensive software I have may not run under Windows 10. If you don't want this to happen, you have to change the setting in Widows Update to allow you to chose to install updates. Ken

I stepped away from my desk for a minute, and when I came back, my PC was installing Windows 10. I did not select the update because some expensive software I have may not run under Windows 10. If you don't want this to happen, you have to change the setting in Widows Update to allow you to chose to install updates. Ken I stepped away from my desk for a minute, and when I came back, my PC was installing Windows 10. I did not select the update because some expensive software I have may not run under Windows 10. If you don't want this to happen, you have to change the setting in Widows Update to allow you to chose to install updates. Ken

Thanks for the heads up Ken, All of our company clients computer in our network system just started updating too. We are a Manufacturing company that uses serial communications to all our machines that windows 10 don¹t offer proper serial communications anymore since Microsoft figures that nobody uses serial communications, so why offer it. We are stuck with Widows 7 apparently. I got my son a lap top for his racing data logger that automatically upgraded to windows 10 last year and he lost everything. I had to buy a second laptop with the old Windows program for him to use and trash the first one. Maybe Microsoft needs to give us a choice before giving us all this new technology for free. This is going to screw up manufactures all over the country today. Larry On 5/20/16, 8:59 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Ken Green via DeTomaso" <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com on behalf of detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
I stepped away from my desk for a minute, and when I came back, my PC was installing Windows 10. I did not select the update because some expensive software I have may not run under Windows 10. If you don't want this to happen, you have to change the setting in Widows Update to allow you to chose to install updates. Ken _______________________________________________
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If you want to keep window's 10 from installing and bugging you... there is a cool little utility that I use that modifies the registry to stop that Windows 10 upgrade message... Just go here: https://www.grc.com/never10.htm and run the program ... it will turn off the window's 10 upgrade process.... or turn it back on if you decide you want to upgrade. I hope that helps, -dt On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Larry Stock <larrys@panteraparts.com> wrote:
Thanks for the heads up Ken, All of our company clients computer in our network system just started updating too. We are a Manufacturing company that uses serial communications to all our machines that windows 10 don¹t offer proper serial communications anymore since Microsoft figures that nobody uses serial communications, so why offer it. We are stuck with Widows 7 apparently. I got my son a lap top for his racing data logger that automatically upgraded to windows 10 last year and he lost everything. I had to buy a second laptop with the old Windows program for him to use and trash the first one. Maybe Microsoft needs to give us a choice before giving us all this new technology for free. This is going to screw up manufactures all over the country today. Larry
On 5/20/16, 8:59 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Ken Green via DeTomaso" <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com on behalf of detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
I stepped away from my desk for a minute, and when I came back, my PC was installing Windows 10. I did not select the update because some expensive software I have may not run under Windows 10. If you don't want this to happen, you have to change the setting in Widows Update to allow you to chose to install updates. Ken _______________________________________________
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If you want to keep window's 10 from installing and bugging you... there is a cool little utility that I use that modifies the registry to stop that Windows 10 upgrade message... Just go here: [1]https://www.grc.com/never10.htm and run the program ... it will turn off the window's 10 upgrade process.... or turn it back on if you decide you want to upgrade. I hope that helps, -dt On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Larry Stock <[2]larrys@panteraparts.com> wrote: Thanks for the heads up Ken, All of our company clients computer in our network system just started updating too. We are a Manufacturing company that uses serial communications to all our machines that windows 10 donA^1t offer proper serial communications anymore since Microsoft figures that nobody uses serial communications, so why offer it. We are stuck with Widows 7 apparently. I got my son a lap top for his racing data logger that automatically upgraded to windows 10 last year and he lost everything. I had to buy a second laptop with the old Windows program for him to use and trash the first one. Maybe Microsoft needs to give us a choice before giving us all this new technology for free. This is going to screw up manufactures all over the country today. Larry On 5/20/16, 8:59 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Ken Green via DeTomaso" <[3]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com on behalf of [4]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
A A I stepped away from my desk for a minute, and when I came back,
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Don Thomas
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Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
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Ken Green
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Larry Stock
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Rod Kunishige