Good Morgn Everyone, I have the original radiator. Should I think about getting a new radiator? I was wondering how many of you still have the original radiator? Mine works fine. Other than new fans when the old ones died, my radiator has been a solid performer. Even in Los Wages it was great. Trip up to Mt Charleston, Valley of Fire, no problems. So how long can it last? 42 years is a long time!! Terry "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 thimes@jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov> 🇺🇸 From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Larry Stock <larrys@panteraparts.com<mailto:larrys@panteraparts.com>> Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2016 7:58 AM To: Owen Cooke <owen@tadhgcooke.com<mailto:owen@tadhgcooke.com>>, "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 144, Issue 27 If this just happened suddenly, Check the thermostat first, and like Chuck said, make sure it is a Cleveland not a more common Windsor thermostat. It is otherwise the Radiator. No amount of fans can cool a clogged radiator much less one that was not that well designed in the first place. A new Fluidyne with the proper NoRossion water additive to keep the Lucas anodes at bay, will make an unbelievable difference. Larry Stock Pantera Parts Connection On 7/5/16, 7:13 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Owen Cooke" <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of owen@tadhgcooke.com<mailto:owen@tadhgcooke.com>> wrote: Guys i need advice please I have a nice original 1972 pre L pantera i have some cooling problems in traffic even though i am in Ireland and its never very hot here rad and fans are original. with no vents in front hood i notice that the hood got extremely hot and i got some boiling over the fans were working but they are the originals and not very powerful i am considering putting vents in the hood and fitting a new rad and fans kit assembly (PPC Fluidyne rad ) from pantera parts this the one with puller fans but i want to keep it upright does this plan make sense i dont need a massive improvement in cooling - i only had this slight boiling over in the swirl tank once also i fitted a new temp sender on the engine front and it read about 160 degrees until now its reading 230 degress all the time with only veery small vasriation in reading even when engine is cold any quick ideas on why it would suddenly go wrong ? i would appreciate advice best regards owen cooke On 26/06/2016 17:00, detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com> wrote: Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com> You can reach the person managing the list at detomaso-owner@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-owner@server.detomasolist.com> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." Daily Detomaso List Digest Today's Topics: 1. Re: Good News (for me anyways) (Mike Thomas) 2. Re: Good News (for me anyways) (Christopher Kimball) 3. Re: Tech Session (Jeff Detrich) 4. Re: News from Laurie (Jeff Detrich) 5. Re: Door cards. (Jeff Detrich) 6. Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join (John Bennett) 7. Rear calliper rebuild kit for a '74 (Michael Barnes) 8. Re: Rear calliper rebuild kit for a '74 (Mike Drew) 9. Re: Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join (Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 10:21:01 -0700 From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas@comcast.net<mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net>> To: "'Christopher Kimball'" <chrisvkimball@msn.com<mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com>>, "'MyCars'" <mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>>, "'Pantera Owners Club of America'" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Message-ID: <002301d1cf05$f29e1ed0$d7da5c70$@comcast.net<mailto:002301d1cf05$f29e1ed0$d7da5c70$@comcast.net>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yes you do, Chris . . . Well, in one sense at least. Some have said that when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm this time . . .". So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling Pandora could mean one ant the same. I know that is not in your plans . . . Mike -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Kimball Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM To: MyCars <mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>>; Pantera Owners Club of America <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Congrats! I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can finish my car. Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... Sincerely, Chris To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> From: mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2 years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres worth of avocados to a local distributor. Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 12:00:55 -0700 From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball@msn.com<mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com>> To: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas@comcast.net<mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net>>, 'MyCars' <mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>>, 'Pantera Owners Club of America' <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Message-ID: <SNT404-EAS234F076ADB7D765A18CEA74BC2F0@phx.gbl<mailto:SNT404-EAS234F076ADB7D765A18CEA74BC2F0@phx.gbl>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I hope not, but the thought is starting to cross my mind more frequently... Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Mike Thomas<mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net> Sent: ?6/?25/?2016 10:21 AM To: 'Christopher Kimball'<mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com>; 'MyCars'<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>; 'Pantera Owners Club of America'<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Yes you do, Chris . . . Well, in one sense at least. Some have said that when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm this time . . .". So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling Pandora could mean one ant the same. I know that is not in your plans . . . Mike -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Kimball Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM To: MyCars <mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>>; Pantera Owners Club of America <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Congrats! I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can finish my car. Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... Sincerely, Chris To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> From: mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2 years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres worth of avocados to a local distributor. Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- I hope not, but the thought is starting to cross my mind more frequently... Sent from my Windows Phone __________________________________________________________________ From: [1]Mike Thomas Sent: 6/25/2016 10:21 AM To: [2]'Christopher Kimball'; [3]'MyCars'; [4]'Pantera Owners Club of America' Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Yes you do, Chris . . . Well, in one sense at least. Some have said that when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm this time . . .". So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling Pandora could mean one ant the same. I know that is not in your plans . . . Mike -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[5]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Kimball Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM To: MyCars <mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>>; Pantera Owners Club of America <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Congrats! I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can finish my car. Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... Sincerely, Chris > To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> > From: mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net> > Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 > Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) > > So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2 > years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres > worth of avocados to a local distributor. > > Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be > able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible > Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of > being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed > 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> > [6]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net 2. mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com 3. mailto:mycars@comcast.net 4. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 5. mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 6. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 16:28:03 -0500 From: Jeff Detrich <jjd1010@aol.com<mailto:jjd1010@aol.com>> To: Charles Engles <cengles@cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net>> Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tech Session Message-ID: <CANX29aXWxuuXTtgqk5vy9D4cV-a1K5bf58tketHtz+EcpyPhNA@mail.gmail.com<mailto:CANX29aXWxuuXTtgqk5vy9D4cV-a1K5bf58tketHtz+EcpyPhNA@mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hey, Hey it works! Glad to be back. Couldn't be;ieve how much I missed everyone. Jeff 6559 On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:52 PM, Charles Engles <cengles@cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net>> wrote: Dear Jeff, Hmmm. I am a computer dope. Try an email to : [1]deTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:deTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> You might also try to Google Detomasolist.com, which might have the sign up info. Also, since you were on the old forum, Kurt may have already added you to the new forum with all the rest of the POCA reprobates. You might just try sending an email...... I hope that helps. Warmest regards, Chuck Engles From: JJD1010@aol.com<mailto:JJD1010@aol.com> [mailto:JJD1010@aol.com] Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 5:35 PM To: cengles@cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net> Subject: Re: Tech Session Where do I find the new old forum? In a message dated 6/22/2016 5:35:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [2]cengles@cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net> writes: Dear Jeff, Yes, I sent the attachment for the total of, IIRC, $111.33 to Mike DiTucci. I will try to find the pdf and sent it to you directly. Yes, the Old Forum is back despite threats of lawsuit by Mr. Michael Dog-in-the-Manger Shortt. The New Old Forum is good. Mr. Shortt is suffering from mental illness. Warmest regards, Chuck Engles rom: [3]JJD1010@aol.com<mailto:JJD1010@aol.com> [[4]mailto:JJD1010@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 3:31 PM To: [5]cengles@cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net> Subject: Tech Session Chuck, Sorry I missed tech session. Do you have any expenses you want to be reimbursed for? Jeff PS: Did the email forum ever get going again? I sure miss it! References 1. mailto:deTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 2. mailto:cengles@cox.net 3. mailto:JJD1010@aol.com 4. mailto:JJD1010@aol.com 5. mailto:cengles@cox.net _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- Hey, Hey it works! Glad to be back. Couldn't be;ieve how much I missed everyone. Jeff 6559 On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:52 PM, Charles Engles <[1]cengles@cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net>> wrote: A A Dear Jeff, A A A A A A A A A A A Hmmm.A A I am a computer dope.A Try an email to : A A [1][2]deTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:deTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A You might also try to Google A A Detomasolist.com,A A which might have the sign up info.A A Also,A since A A you were on the old forum, Kurt may have already added you to the new A A forum with all the rest of the POCA reprobates.A A You might just try A A sending an email......A A A I hope that helps. A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A Warmest regards, A A Chuck Engles A A From: [3]JJD1010@aol.com<mailto:JJD1010@aol.com> [mailto:[4]JJD1010@aol.com] A A Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 5:35 PM A A To: [5]cengles@cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net> A A Subject: Re: Tech Session A A Where do I find the new old forum? A A In a message dated 6/22/2016 5:35:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time, A A [2][6]cengles@cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net> writes: A A Dear Jeff, A A A A A A A A A Yes, I sent the attachment for the total of, IIRC, A A $111.33 to Mike DiTucci.A I will try to find the pdf and sent it to you A A directly. A A A A A A A A A Yes, the Old Forum is back despite threats of lawsuit by A A Mr. Michael Dog-in-the-Manger Shortt.A The New Old Forum is good.A A Mr. A A Shortt is suffering from mental illness. A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A Warmest regards,A Chuck Engles A A rom: [3][7]JJD1010@aol.com<mailto:JJD1010@aol.com> [[4]mailto:[8]JJD1010@aol.com] A A Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 3:31 PM A A To: [5][9]cengles@cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net> A A Subject: Tech Session A A Chuck, A A Sorry I missed tech session. Do you have any expenses you want to be A A reimbursed for? A A Jeff A A PS: Did the email forum ever get going again? I sure miss it! References A A 1. mailto:[10]deTomaso@server.detomasolist.com A A 2. mailto:[11]cengles@cox.net A A 3. mailto:[12]JJD1010@aol.com A A 4. mailto:[13]JJD1010@aol.com A A 5. mailto:[14]cengles@cox.net _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [15]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> [16]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. mailto:cengles@cox.net 2. mailto:deTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 3. mailto:JJD1010@aol.com 4. mailto:JJD1010@aol.com 5. mailto:cengles@cox.net 6. mailto:cengles@cox.net 7. mailto:JJD1010@aol.com 8. mailto:JJD1010@aol.com 9. mailto:cengles@cox.net 10. mailto:deTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 11. mailto:cengles@cox.net 12. mailto:JJD1010@aol.com 13. mailto:JJD1010@aol.com 14. mailto:cengles@cox.net 15. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 16. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 16:38:14 -0500 From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich@gmail.com<mailto:jjdetrich@gmail.com>> To: laurieferrari@aol.com<mailto:laurieferrari@aol.com> Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] News from Laurie Message-ID: <CANX29aX9YM7drm3MU7iMtwk3MiNHuet0RxZCckGUQW1dzbf1LA@mail.gmail.com<mailto:CANX29aX9YM7drm3MU7iMtwk3MiNHuet0RxZCckGUQW1dzbf1LA@mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Interesting. 2 years ago, when preparing some things for publication for the Lone Star Fun Rally in Houston, we found their prices to be 50% higher than what we got locally. This was reported to the Board with the recommendation that they might want to look at getting some bides for the magazine and newsletter. Not surprisingly, it was ignored. So on to bigger and better things; Laurie, congratulations and thanks for taking on the project. I hope we all step up and give you plenty of material for the magazine. Jeff 6559 On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 3:58 AM, Laurie Ferrari via DeTomaso < detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> wrote: Get ready! I am delighted to serve as the Interim Profiles Editor in light of Mike Haney's resignation. I am gearing up for interviews with new members, long time members, obtaining details of special cars personalities, projects, compiling auction and sales information, networking with people of interest, and calling on all Chapter Presidents for highlights of your news for a new Chapter Report Section of Profiles. I regret that there has been unrest in the club of late and I aim to be positive and do my utmost to maintain professionalism. I know that decisions for the betterment of POCA have recently been entertained by the Board. One such issue is the choice of printer. Facts have been provided showing that we were offered an $8,000. yearly savings for an improved product from a new printer. For whatever reasoning, Jack DeRyke found this so unacceptable that he resigned even though urged not to do so. This is hard to fathom as it would seem that one's dedication to the Club for so many years would supersede personal interests, most especially when the majority of the Board has voted to try the new printer. This is unfortunate but decisions need to be made democratically and for the betterment of the entire membership. We have a great club made up of incredible people and a bright future ahead with our growing numbers and the many new benefits we are seeing. I encourage you to be congenial and please contact me with your stories, experiences, upgrades, repairs, restorations, pictures; no information is too little. Let's all contribute to a fabulous Profiles issue for the last one of this year. You will find my contact information on the membership information page. My warmest greetings to everyone! Laurie _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- Interesting. 2 years ago, when preparing some things for publication for the Lone Star Fun Rally in Houston, we found their prices to be 50% higher than what we got locally. This was reported to the Board with the recommendation that they might want to look at getting some bides for the magazine and newsletter. Not surprisingly, it was ignored. So on to bigger and better things; Laurie, congratulations and thanks for taking on the project. I hope we all step up and give you plenty of material for the magazine. Jeff 6559 On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 3:58 AM, Laurie Ferrari via DeTomaso <[1]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> wrote: A A Get ready! I am delighted to serve as the Interim Profiles Editor in A A light of Mike Haney's resignation. I am gearing up for interviews A A with new members, long time members, obtaining details of special cars A A personalities, projects, compiling auction and sales information, A A networking with people of interest, and calling on all Chapter A A Presidents for highlights of your news for a new Chapter Report Section A A of Profiles. A A I regret that there has been unrest in the club of late and I aim to be A A positive and do my utmost to maintain professionalism.A I know A A that decisions for the betterment of POCA have recently been A A entertained by the Board. One such issue is the choice of printer. A A Facts have been provided showing that we were offered an $8,000. yearly A A savings for an improved product from a new printer. For whatever A A reasoning, Jack DeRyke found this so unacceptable that he resigned even A A though urged not to do so. This is hard to fathom as it would seem A A that one's dedication to the Club for so many years would supersede A A personal interests, most especially when the majority of the Board has A A voted to try the new printer. This is unfortunate but decisions need A A to be made democratically and for the betterment of the entire A A membership. We have a great club made up of incredible people and A A a bright future ahead with our growing numbers and the many new A A benefits we are seeing. A A I encourage you to be congenial and please contact me with your A A stories, experiences, upgrades, repairs, restorations, pictures; no A A information is too little.A Let's all contribute to a fabulous Profiles A A issue for the last one of this year. You will find my contact A A information on the membership information page. A A My warmest greetings to everyone! A A Laurie _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [2]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> [3]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 2. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 3. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 17:27:44 -0500 From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich@gmail.com<mailto:jjdetrich@gmail.com>> To: John McKee <johnmckee@cox.net<mailto:johnmckee@cox.net>> Cc: Detomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Door cards. Message-ID: <CANX29aWfrb0FSa-SSpx=TaWL2Z_U2OfOtZj6xj7D3Et2UiQyzA@mail.gmail.com<mailto:CANX29aWfrb0FSa-SSpx=TaWL2Z_U2OfOtZj6xj7D3Et2UiQyzA@mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I use a thin and waterproof sound blocking/dampening material from Cascade Audio, VB-2HD, which is ideally suited for a vapor barrier on a car door. It has an adhesive backing that holds the material to the door. http://www.cascadeaudio.com/automotive_audio_enhancement/dampers_for_cars .htm Jeff On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 11:01 AM, John McKee <johnmckee@cox.net<mailto:johnmckee@cox.net>> wrote: Michael, I plan to use this product to replace the door plastic. Thermo-Tec Super Sonic Mats http://www.thermotec.com/products/14700-super-sonic-acoustical-mat.html John -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Michael Barnes Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:14 AM To: Detomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Door cards. Hi all,just fitted a pair of new door mirrors and was in the process of refitting the door cards when I remembered a piece of advice a friends dad gave me forty years ago ( yeah I know) " don't put the plastic back on the door behind the card as it causes condensation and inevitably corrosion" What do you guys think, leave the plastic on or bin it? Thanks for any input Michael Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. 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[1]http://www.cascadeaudio.com/automotive_audio_enhancement/dampers_for _cars.htm Jeff On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 11:01 AM, John McKee <[2]johnmckee@cox.net<mailto:johnmckee@cox.net>> wrote: Michael, I plan to use this product to replace the door plastic. Thermo-Tec Super Sonic Mats [3]http://www.thermotec.com/products/14700-super-sonic-acoustical-ma t.html John -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:[4]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Michael Barnes Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:14 AM To: Detomaso <[5]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Door cards. Hi all,just fitted a pair of new door mirrors and was in the process of refitting the door cards when I remembered a piece of advice a friends dad gave me forty years ago ( yeah I know) " don't put the plastic back on the door behind the card as it causes condensation and inevitably corrosion" What do you guys think, leave the plastic on or bin it? Thanks for any input Michael Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [6]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> [7]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. 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References 1. http://www.cascadeaudio.com/automotive_audio_enhancement/dampers_for_cars .htm 2. mailto:johnmckee@cox.net 3. http://www.thermotec.com/products/14700-super-sonic-acoustical-mat.html 4. mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 5. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 6. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 7. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 8. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 9. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 16:27:10 +1200 From: John Bennett <jbennett111@zoho.com<mailto:jbennett111@zoho.com>> To: "DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com>" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join Message-ID: <E1A0B9E8-2028-4E34-B593-A1B84CBBD797@zoho.com<mailto:E1A0B9E8-2028-4E34-B593-A1B84CBBD797@zoho.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Great membership now only $50! Begin forwarded message: From: Ed Mendez <edducati@mac.com<mailto:edducati@mac.com>> Subject: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join Date: 26 June 2016 at 16:25:26 NZST To: San Diego Panteras <sdpanteras@googlegroups.com<mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com>>, Space City Panteras <SCPOCA@yahoogroups.com<mailto:SCPOCA@yahoogroups.com>> Please spread the word! We have created an easy to remember, simple web address for people to sign up online. Simply go to www.poca.com/join <http://www.poca.com/join> to have people sign up. You can sign up people on your smart phone at car shows, events, etc. In addition, you can now choose the International option; no matter where you live, and receive a full POCA membership for $50.00 instead of $75.00. What this option gives you is to receive "Digital only" Newsletters and Profiles in full color pdf format. Note: If they want posted hardcopies then they would choose the Domestic option for the standard $75.00, Don?t forget we have the 3 5 1 program, they more members you get benefits the club and yourself. Details here: https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896&modu le_id=225364 <https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896&mod ule_id=225364> Thanks, Ed Mendez PR Director - POCA www.poca.com <http://www.poca.com/> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SDPANTERAS" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sdpanteras+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com<mailto:sdpanteras+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com> <mailto:sdpanteras+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to sdpanteras@googlegroups.com<mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com> <mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com>. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -------------- next part -------------- Great membership now only $50! Begin forwarded message: From: Ed Mendez <[1]edducati@mac.com<mailto:edducati@mac.com>> Subject: [SDP] New JOIN url for [2]www.poca.com/join Date: 26 June 2016 at 16:25:26 NZST To: San Diego Panteras <[3]sdpanteras@googlegroups.com<mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com>>, Space City Panteras <[4]SCPOCA@yahoogroups.com<mailto:SCPOCA@yahoogroups.com>> Please spread the word! We have created an easy to remember, simple web address for people to sign up online. Simply go to [5]www.poca.com/join to have people sign up. You can sign up people on your smart phone at car shows, events, etc. In addition, you can now choose the International option; no matter where you live, and receive a full POCA membership for $50.00 instead of $75.00. What this option gives you is to receive "Digital only" Newsletters and Profiles in full color pdf format. Note: If they want posted hardcopies then they would choose the Domestic option for the standard $75.00, Don't forget we have the 3 5 1 program, they more members you get benefits the club and yourself. Details here: [6]https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896& module_id=225364 Thanks, Ed Mendez PR Director - POCA [7]www.poca.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SDPANTERAS" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [8]sdpanteras+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com<mailto:sdpanteras+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to [9]sdpanteras@googlegroups.com<mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com>. For more options, visit [10]https://groups.google.com/d/optout. References 1. mailto:edducati@mac.com 2. http://www.poca.com/join 3. mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com 4. mailto:SCPOCA@yahoogroups.com 5. http://www.poca.com/join 6. https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896&modul e_id=225364 7. http://www.poca.com/ 8. mailto:sdpanteras+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com 9. mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com 10. https://groups.google.com/d/optout ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 12:53:56 +0100 From: Michael Barnes <michaelbarnessrt10@hotmail.co.uk<mailto:michaelbarnessrt10@hotmail.co.uk>> To: Detomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear calliper rebuild kit for a '74 Message-ID: <DUB410-EAS13656BB193887FECF9AB87388200@phx.gbl<mailto:DUB410-EAS13656BB193887FECF9AB87388200@phx.gbl>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Has anyone got a contact in the U.K. Who can supply these please? Thanks in advance Michael Sent from my iPad ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 21:04:47 +0900 From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew@aol.com<mailto:MikeLDrew@aol.com>> To: Michael Barnes <michaelbarnessrt10@hotmail.co.uk<mailto:michaelbarnessrt10@hotmail.co.uk>> Cc: Detomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear calliper rebuild kit for a '74 Message-ID: <5893C485-999A-4670-80E0-91DEB98DDA49@aol.com<mailto:5893C485-999A-4670-80E0-91DEB98DDA49@aol.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Michael, Here you go: http://performance-braking.co.uk/ Run by a guy named Jonathan Freeth, who was the head of Girling racing division when Girling went belly-up. He bought all the inventory, blueprints and tooling and continues to service all Girling products, and can even provide new castings for some models. He probably offers a rebuild service too. If you do it yourself be sure to read the manual before you pick up spanner one, and know exactly what needs to be done in order to compress the piston. Get it wrong and you will destroy the parking brake function. Cheers! Mike Sent from my iPad On Jun 26, 2016, at 20:53, Michael Barnes <michaelbarnessrt10@hotmail.co.uk<mailto:michaelbarnessrt10@hotmail.co.uk>> wrote: Has anyone got a contact in the U.K. Who can supply these please? Thanks in advance Michael Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- Michael, Here you go: [1]http://performance-braking.co.uk/ Run by a guy named Jonathan Freeth, who was the head of Girling racing division when Girling went belly-up. He bought all the inventory, blueprints and tooling and continues to service all Girling products, and can even provide new castings for some models. He probably offers a rebuild service too. If you do it yourself be sure to read the manual before you pick up spanner one, and know exactly what needs to be done in order to compress the piston. Get it wrong and you will destroy the parking brake function. Cheers! Mike Sent from my iPad On Jun 26, 2016, at 20:53, Michael Barnes <[2]michaelbarnessrt10@hotmail.co.uk<mailto:michaelbarnessrt10@hotmail.co.uk>> wrote: Has anyone got a contact in the U.K. Who can supply these please? Thanks in advance Michael Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [3]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> [4]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. http://performance-braking.co.uk/ 2. mailto:michaelbarnessrt10@hotmail.co.uk 3. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 4. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 08:35:08 -0400 From: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <byrdjf@embarqmail.com<mailto:byrdjf@embarqmail.com>> To: "'DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:'DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com>'" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Cc: 'Ed Mendez' <edducati@mac.com<mailto:edducati@mac.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join Message-ID: <000601d1cfa7$2d767100$88635300$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Is the international option discussed/mentioned on the POCA web site? If one opts for the international, will hard copies be available to purchase in case there is one desired? -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of John Bennett Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 0:27 AM To: DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join Great membership now only $50! Begin forwarded message: From: Ed Mendez <edducati@mac.com<mailto:edducati@mac.com>> Subject: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join Date: 26 June 2016 at 16:25:26 NZST To: San Diego Panteras <sdpanteras@googlegroups.com<mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com>>, Space City Panteras <SCPOCA@yahoogroups.com<mailto:SCPOCA@yahoogroups.com>> Please spread the word! We have created an easy to remember, simple web address for people to sign up online. Simply go to www.poca.com/join <http://www.poca.com/join> to have people sign up. You can sign up people on your smart phone at car shows, events, etc. In addition, you can now choose the International option; no matter where you live, and receive a full POCA membership for $50.00 instead of $75.00. What this option gives you is to receive "Digital only" Newsletters and Profiles in full color pdf format. Note: If they want posted hardcopies then they would choose the Domestic option for the standard $75.00, Don?t forget we have the 3 5 1 program, they more members you get benefits the club and yourself. Details here: https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896&modu le_id=225364 <https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896&mod ule_id=225364> Thanks, Ed Mendez PR Director - POCA www.poca.com <http://www.poca.com/> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SDPANTERAS" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sdpanteras+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com<mailto:sdpanteras+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com> <mailto:sdpanteras+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to sdpanteras@googlegroups.com<mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com> <mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com>. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. ------------------------------ End of DeTomaso Digest, Vol 144, Issue 27 ***************************************** _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. Good Morgn Everyone, I have the original radiator. Should I think about getting a new radiator? I was wondering how many of you still have the original radiator? Mine works fine. Other than new fans when the old ones died, my radiator has been a solid performer. Even in Los Wages it was great. Trip up to Mt Charleston, Valley of Fire, no problems. So how long can it last? 42 years is a long time!! Terry "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 [1]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Larry Stock <[3]larrys@panteraparts.com> Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2016 7:58 AM To: Owen Cooke <[4]owen@tadhgcooke.com>, "[5]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[6]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 144, Issue 27 If this just happened suddenly, Check the thermostat first, and like Chuck said, make sure it is a Cleveland not a more common Windsor thermostat. It is otherwise the Radiator. No amount of fans can cool a clogged radiator much less one that was not that well designed in the first place. A new Fluidyne with the proper NoRossion water additive to keep the Lucas anodes at bay, will make an unbelievable difference. Larry Stock Pantera Parts Connection On 7/5/16, 7:13 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Owen Cooke" <[7]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com on behalf of [8]owen@tadhgcooke.com> wrote: Guys i need advice please I have a nice original 1972 pre L pantera i have some cooling problems in traffic even though i am in Ireland and its never very hot here rad and fans are original. with no vents in front hood i notice that the hood got extremely hot and i got some boiling over the fans were working but they are the originals and not very powerful i am considering putting vents in the hood and fitting a new rad and fans kit assembly (PPC Fluidyne rad ) from pantera parts this the one with puller fans but i want to keep it upright does this plan make sense i dont need a massive improvement in cooling - i only had this slight boiling over in the swirl tank once also i fitted a new temp sender on the engine front and it read about 160 degrees until now its reading 230 degress all the time with only veery small vasriation in reading even when engine is cold any quick ideas on why it would suddenly go wrong ? i would appreciate advice best regards owen cooke On 26/06/2016 17:00, [9]detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com wrote: Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to [10]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit [11]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [12]detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com You can reach the person managing the list at [13]detomaso-owner@server.detomasolist.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." Daily Detomaso List Digest Today's Topics: 1. Re: Good News (for me anyways) (Mike Thomas) 2. Re: Good News (for me anyways) (Christopher Kimball) 3. Re: Tech Session (Jeff Detrich) 4. Re: News from Laurie (Jeff Detrich) 5. Re: Door cards. (Jeff Detrich) 6. Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join (John Bennett) 7. Rear calliper rebuild kit for a '74 (Michael Barnes) 8. Re: Rear calliper rebuild kit for a '74 (Mike Drew) 9. Re: Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join (Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 10:21:01 -0700 From: "Mike Thomas" <[14]mbefthomas@comcast.net> To: "'Christopher Kimball'" <[15]chrisvkimball@msn.com>, "'MyCars'" <[16]mycars@comcast.net>, "'Pantera Owners Club of America'" <[17]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Message-ID: <[18]002301d1cf05$f29e1ed0$d7da5c70$@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yes you do, Chris . . . Well, in one sense at least. Some have said that when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm this time . . .". So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling Pandora could mean one ant the same. I know that is not in your plans . . . Mike -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[19]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Kimball Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM To: MyCars <[20]mycars@comcast.net>; Pantera Owners Club of America <[21]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Congrats! I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can finish my car. Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... Sincerely, Chris To: [22]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com From: [23]mycars@comcast.net Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2 years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres worth of avocados to a local distributor. Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [24]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [25]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 12:00:55 -0700 From: Christopher Kimball <[26]chrisvkimball@msn.com> To: Mike Thomas <[27]mbefthomas@comcast.net>, 'MyCars' <[28]mycars@comcast.net>, 'Pantera Owners Club of America' <[29]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Message-ID: <[30]SNT404-EAS234F076ADB7D765A18CEA74BC2F0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I hope not, but the thought is starting to cross my mind more frequently... Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Mike Thomas<[31]mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net> Sent: ?6/?25/?2016 10:21 AM To: 'Christopher Kimball'<[32]mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com>; 'MyCars'<[33]mailto:mycars@comcast.net>; 'Pantera Owners Club of America'<[34]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Yes you do, Chris . . . Well, in one sense at least. Some have said that when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm this time . . .". So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling Pandora could mean one ant the same. I know that is not in your plans . . . Mike -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[35]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Kimball Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM To: MyCars <[36]mycars@comcast.net>; Pantera Owners Club of America <[37]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Congrats! I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can finish my car. Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... Sincerely, Chris To: [38]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com From: [39]mycars@comcast.net Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2 years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres worth of avocados to a local distributor. Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [40]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [41]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
Terry , I am a fan of using original radiators . Just keep using it . If you ever notice your temps beginning to rise ( under circumstances that they normally wouldn't have ) then just remove and have it serviced . ( cleaned ) . If it ever develops a leak , it can be repaired or re-cored . - Jim Coyne From: terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov To: larrys@panteraparts.com; owen@tadhgcooke.com; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2016 15:22:19 +0000 Subject: [DeTomaso] Speaking of radiators. Good Morgn Everyone, I have the original radiator. Should I think about getting a new radiator? I was wondering how many of you still have the original radiator? Mine works fine. Other than new fans when the old ones died, my radiator has been a solid performer. Even in Los Wages it was great. Trip up to Mt Charleston, Valley of Fire, no problems. So how long can it last? 42 years is a long time!! Terry "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 thimes@jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov> 🇺🇸 From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Larry Stock <larrys@panteraparts.com<mailto:larrys@panteraparts.com>> Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2016 7:58 AM To: Owen Cooke <owen@tadhgcooke.com<mailto:owen@tadhgcooke.com>>, "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 144, Issue 27 If this just happened suddenly, Check the thermostat first, and like Chuck said, make sure it is a Cleveland not a more common Windsor thermostat. It is otherwise the Radiator. No amount of fans can cool a clogged radiator much less one that was not that well designed in the first place. A new Fluidyne with the proper NoRossion water additive to keep the Lucas anodes at bay, will make an unbelievable difference. Larry Stock Pantera Parts Connection On 7/5/16, 7:13 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Owen Cooke" <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of owen@tadhgcooke.com<mailto:owen@tadhgcooke.com>> wrote: Guys i need advice please I have a nice original 1972 pre L pantera i have some cooling problems in traffic even though i am in Ireland and its never very hot here rad and fans are original. with no vents in front hood i notice that the hood got extremely hot and i got some boiling over the fans were working but they are the originals and not very powerful i am considering putting vents in the hood and fitting a new rad and fans kit assembly (PPC Fluidyne rad ) from pantera parts this the one with puller fans but i want to keep it upright does this plan make sense i dont need a massive improvement in cooling - i only had this slight boiling over in the swirl tank once also i fitted a new temp sender on the engine front and it read about 160 degrees until now its reading 230 degress all the time with only veery small vasriation in reading even when engine is cold any quick ideas on why it would suddenly go wrong ? i would appreciate advice best regards owen cooke On 26/06/2016 17:00, detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com> wrote: Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com> You can reach the person managing the list at detomaso-owner@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-owner@server.detomasolist.com> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." Daily Detomaso List Digest Today's Topics: 1. Re: Good News (for me anyways) (Mike Thomas) 2. Re: Good News (for me anyways) (Christopher Kimball) 3. Re: Tech Session (Jeff Detrich) 4. Re: News from Laurie (Jeff Detrich) 5. Re: Door cards. (Jeff Detrich) 6. Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join (John Bennett) 7. Rear calliper rebuild kit for a '74 (Michael Barnes) 8. Re: Rear calliper rebuild kit for a '74 (Mike Drew) 9. Re: Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join (Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 10:21:01 -0700 From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas@comcast.net<mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net>> To: "'Christopher Kimball'" <chrisvkimball@msn.com<mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com>>, "'MyCars'" <mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>>, "'Pantera Owners Club of America'" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Message-ID: <002301d1cf05$f29e1ed0$d7da5c70$@comcast.net<mailto:002301d1cf05$f29e1ed0$d7da5c70$@comcast.net>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yes you do, Chris . . . Well, in one sense at least. Some have said that when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm this time . . .". So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling Pandora could mean one ant the same. I know that is not in your plans . . . Mike -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Kimball Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM To: MyCars <mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>>; Pantera Owners Club of America <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Congrats! I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can finish my car. Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... Sincerely, Chris To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> From: mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2 years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres worth of avocados to a local distributor. Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 12:00:55 -0700 From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball@msn.com<mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com>> To: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas@comcast.net<mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net>>, 'MyCars' <mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>>, 'Pantera Owners Club of America' <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Message-ID: <SNT404-EAS234F076ADB7D765A18CEA74BC2F0@phx.gbl<mailto:SNT404-EAS234F076ADB7D765A18CEA74BC2F0@phx.gbl>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I hope not, but the thought is starting to cross my mind more frequently... Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Mike Thomas<mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net> Sent: ?6/?25/?2016 10:21 AM To: 'Christopher Kimball'<mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com>; 'MyCars'<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>; 'Pantera Owners Club of America'<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Yes you do, Chris . . . Well, in one sense at least. Some have said that when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm this time . . .". So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling Pandora could mean one ant the same. I know that is not in your plans . . . Mike -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Kimball Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM To: MyCars <mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>>; Pantera Owners Club of America <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Congrats! I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can finish my car. Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... Sincerely, Chris To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> From: mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2 years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres worth of avocados to a local distributor. Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- I hope not, but the thought is starting to cross my mind more frequently... Sent from my Windows Phone __________________________________________________________________ From: [1]Mike Thomas Sent: 6/25/2016 10:21 AM To: [2]'Christopher Kimball'; [3]'MyCars'; [4]'Pantera Owners Club of America' Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Yes you do, Chris . . . Well, in one sense at least. Some have said that when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm this time . . .". So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling Pandora could mean one ant the same. I know that is not in your plans . . . Mike -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[5]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Kimball Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM To: MyCars <mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>>; Pantera Owners Club of America <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Congrats! I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can finish my car. Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... Sincerely, Chris > To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> > From: mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net> > Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 > Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) > > So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2 > years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres > worth of avocados to a local distributor. > > Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be > able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible > Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of > being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. > _______________________________________________ > > > Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed > 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> > [6]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > > To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. > > Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net 2. mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com 3. mailto:mycars@comcast.net 4. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 5. mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 6. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 16:28:03 -0500 From: Jeff Detrich <jjd1010@aol.com<mailto:jjd1010@aol.com>> To: Charles Engles <cengles@cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net>> Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tech Session Message-ID: <CANX29aXWxuuXTtgqk5vy9D4cV-a1K5bf58tketHtz+EcpyPhNA@mail.gmail.com<mailto:CANX29aXWxuuXTtgqk5vy9D4cV-a1K5bf58tketHtz+EcpyPhNA@mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hey, Hey it works! Glad to be back. Couldn't be;ieve how much I missed everyone. Jeff 6559 On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:52 PM, Charles Engles <cengles@cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net>> wrote: Dear Jeff, Hmmm. I am a computer dope. Try an email to : [1]deTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:deTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> You might also try to Google Detomasolist.com, which might have the sign up info. Also, since you were on the old forum, Kurt may have already added you to the new forum with all the rest of the POCA reprobates. You might just try sending an email...... I hope that helps. Warmest regards, Chuck Engles From: JJD1010@aol.com<mailto:JJD1010@aol.com> [mailto:JJD1010@aol.com] Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 5:35 PM To: cengles@cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net> Subject: Re: Tech Session Where do I find the new old forum? In a message dated 6/22/2016 5:35:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [2]cengles@cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net> writes: Dear Jeff, Yes, I sent the attachment for the total of, IIRC, $111.33 to Mike DiTucci. I will try to find the pdf and sent it to you directly. Yes, the Old Forum is back despite threats of lawsuit by Mr. Michael Dog-in-the-Manger Shortt. The New Old Forum is good. Mr. Shortt is suffering from mental illness. Warmest regards, Chuck Engles rom: [3]JJD1010@aol.com<mailto:JJD1010@aol.com> [[4]mailto:JJD1010@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 3:31 PM To: [5]cengles@cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net> Subject: Tech Session Chuck, Sorry I missed tech session. Do you have any expenses you want to be reimbursed for? Jeff PS: Did the email forum ever get going again? I sure miss it! References 1. mailto:deTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 2. mailto:cengles@cox.net 3. mailto:JJD1010@aol.com 4. mailto:JJD1010@aol.com 5. mailto:cengles@cox.net _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- Hey, Hey it works! Glad to be back. Couldn't be;ieve how much I missed everyone. Jeff 6559 On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:52 PM, Charles Engles <[1]cengles@cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net>> wrote: A A Dear Jeff, A A A A A A A A A A A Hmmm.A A I am a computer dope.A Try an email to : A A [1][2]deTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:deTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A You might also try to Google A A Detomasolist.com,A A which might have the sign up info.A A Also,A since A A you were on the old forum, Kurt may have already added you to the new A A forum with all the rest of the POCA reprobates.A A You might just try A A sending an email......A A A I hope that helps. A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A Warmest regards, A A Chuck Engles A A From: [3]JJD1010@aol.com<mailto:JJD1010@aol.com> [mailto:[4]JJD1010@aol.com] A A Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 5:35 PM A A To: [5]cengles@cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net> A A Subject: Re: Tech Session A A Where do I find the new old forum? A A In a message dated 6/22/2016 5:35:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time, A A [2][6]cengles@cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net> writes: A A Dear Jeff, A A A A A A A A A Yes, I sent the attachment for the total of, IIRC, A A $111.33 to Mike DiTucci.A I will try to find the pdf and sent it to you A A directly. A A A A A A A A A Yes, the Old Forum is back despite threats of lawsuit by A A Mr. Michael Dog-in-the-Manger Shortt.A The New Old Forum is good.A A Mr. A A Shortt is suffering from mental illness. A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A Warmest regards,A Chuck Engles A A rom: [3][7]JJD1010@aol.com<mailto:JJD1010@aol.com> [[4]mailto:[8]JJD1010@aol.com] A A Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 3:31 PM A A To: [5][9]cengles@cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net> A A Subject: Tech Session A A Chuck, A A Sorry I missed tech session. Do you have any expenses you want to be A A reimbursed for? A A Jeff A A PS: Did the email forum ever get going again? I sure miss it! References A A 1. mailto:[10]deTomaso@server.detomasolist.com A A 2. mailto:[11]cengles@cox.net A A 3. mailto:[12]JJD1010@aol.com A A 4. mailto:[13]JJD1010@aol.com A A 5. mailto:[14]cengles@cox.net _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [15]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> [16]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. mailto:cengles@cox.net 2. mailto:deTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 3. mailto:JJD1010@aol.com 4. mailto:JJD1010@aol.com 5. mailto:cengles@cox.net 6. mailto:cengles@cox.net 7. mailto:JJD1010@aol.com 8. mailto:JJD1010@aol.com 9. mailto:cengles@cox.net 10. mailto:deTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 11. mailto:cengles@cox.net 12. mailto:JJD1010@aol.com 13. mailto:JJD1010@aol.com 14. mailto:cengles@cox.net 15. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 16. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 16:38:14 -0500 From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich@gmail.com<mailto:jjdetrich@gmail.com>> To: laurieferrari@aol.com<mailto:laurieferrari@aol.com> Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] News from Laurie Message-ID: <CANX29aX9YM7drm3MU7iMtwk3MiNHuet0RxZCckGUQW1dzbf1LA@mail.gmail.com<mailto:CANX29aX9YM7drm3MU7iMtwk3MiNHuet0RxZCckGUQW1dzbf1LA@mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Interesting. 2 years ago, when preparing some things for publication for the Lone Star Fun Rally in Houston, we found their prices to be 50% higher than what we got locally. This was reported to the Board with the recommendation that they might want to look at getting some bides for the magazine and newsletter. Not surprisingly, it was ignored. So on to bigger and better things; Laurie, congratulations and thanks for taking on the project. I hope we all step up and give you plenty of material for the magazine. Jeff 6559 On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 3:58 AM, Laurie Ferrari via DeTomaso < detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> wrote: Get ready! I am delighted to serve as the Interim Profiles Editor in light of Mike Haney's resignation. I am gearing up for interviews with new members, long time members, obtaining details of special cars personalities, projects, compiling auction and sales information, networking with people of interest, and calling on all Chapter Presidents for highlights of your news for a new Chapter Report Section of Profiles. I regret that there has been unrest in the club of late and I aim to be positive and do my utmost to maintain professionalism. I know that decisions for the betterment of POCA have recently been entertained by the Board. One such issue is the choice of printer. Facts have been provided showing that we were offered an $8,000. yearly savings for an improved product from a new printer. For whatever reasoning, Jack DeRyke found this so unacceptable that he resigned even though urged not to do so. This is hard to fathom as it would seem that one's dedication to the Club for so many years would supersede personal interests, most especially when the majority of the Board has voted to try the new printer. This is unfortunate but decisions need to be made democratically and for the betterment of the entire membership. We have a great club made up of incredible people and a bright future ahead with our growing numbers and the many new benefits we are seeing. I encourage you to be congenial and please contact me with your stories, experiences, upgrades, repairs, restorations, pictures; no information is too little. Let's all contribute to a fabulous Profiles issue for the last one of this year. You will find my contact information on the membership information page. My warmest greetings to everyone! Laurie _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- Interesting. 2 years ago, when preparing some things for publication for the Lone Star Fun Rally in Houston, we found their prices to be 50% higher than what we got locally. This was reported to the Board with the recommendation that they might want to look at getting some bides for the magazine and newsletter. Not surprisingly, it was ignored. So on to bigger and better things; Laurie, congratulations and thanks for taking on the project. I hope we all step up and give you plenty of material for the magazine. Jeff 6559 On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 3:58 AM, Laurie Ferrari via DeTomaso <[1]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> wrote: A A Get ready! I am delighted to serve as the Interim Profiles Editor in A A light of Mike Haney's resignation. I am gearing up for interviews A A with new members, long time members, obtaining details of special cars A A personalities, projects, compiling auction and sales information, A A networking with people of interest, and calling on all Chapter A A Presidents for highlights of your news for a new Chapter Report Section A A of Profiles. A A I regret that there has been unrest in the club of late and I aim to be A A positive and do my utmost to maintain professionalism.A I know A A that decisions for the betterment of POCA have recently been A A entertained by the Board. One such issue is the choice of printer. A A Facts have been provided showing that we were offered an $8,000. yearly A A savings for an improved product from a new printer. For whatever A A reasoning, Jack DeRyke found this so unacceptable that he resigned even A A though urged not to do so. This is hard to fathom as it would seem A A that one's dedication to the Club for so many years would supersede A A personal interests, most especially when the majority of the Board has A A voted to try the new printer. This is unfortunate but decisions need A A to be made democratically and for the betterment of the entire A A membership. We have a great club made up of incredible people and A A a bright future ahead with our growing numbers and the many new A A benefits we are seeing. A A I encourage you to be congenial and please contact me with your A A stories, experiences, upgrades, repairs, restorations, pictures; no A A information is too little.A Let's all contribute to a fabulous Profiles A A issue for the last one of this year. You will find my contact A A information on the membership information page. A A My warmest greetings to everyone! A A Laurie _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [2]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> [3]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 2. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 3. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 17:27:44 -0500 From: Jeff Detrich <jjdetrich@gmail.com<mailto:jjdetrich@gmail.com>> To: John McKee <johnmckee@cox.net<mailto:johnmckee@cox.net>> Cc: Detomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Door cards. Message-ID: <CANX29aWfrb0FSa-SSpx=TaWL2Z_U2OfOtZj6xj7D3Et2UiQyzA@mail.gmail.com<mailto:CANX29aWfrb0FSa-SSpx=TaWL2Z_U2OfOtZj6xj7D3Et2UiQyzA@mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I use a thin and waterproof sound blocking/dampening material from Cascade Audio, VB-2HD, which is ideally suited for a vapor barrier on a car door. It has an adhesive backing that holds the material to the door. http://www.cascadeaudio.com/automotive_audio_enhancement/dampers_for_cars .htm Jeff On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 11:01 AM, John McKee <johnmckee@cox.net<mailto:johnmckee@cox.net>> wrote: Michael, I plan to use this product to replace the door plastic. Thermo-Tec Super Sonic Mats http://www.thermotec.com/products/14700-super-sonic-acoustical-mat.html John -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Michael Barnes Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:14 AM To: Detomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Door cards. Hi all,just fitted a pair of new door mirrors and was in the process of refitting the door cards when I remembered a piece of advice a friends dad gave me forty years ago ( yeah I know) " don't put the plastic back on the door behind the card as it causes condensation and inevitably corrosion" What do you guys think, leave the plastic on or bin it? Thanks for any input Michael Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- I use a thin and waterproof sound blocking/dampening material from Cascade Audio, VB-2HD, which is ideally suited for a vapor barrier on a car door. It has an adhesive backing that holds the material to the door. [1]http://www.cascadeaudio.com/automotive_audio_enhancement/dampers_for _cars.htm Jeff On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 11:01 AM, John McKee <[2]johnmckee@cox.net<mailto:johnmckee@cox.net>> wrote: Michael, I plan to use this product to replace the door plastic. Thermo-Tec Super Sonic Mats [3]http://www.thermotec.com/products/14700-super-sonic-acoustical-ma t.html John -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:[4]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Michael Barnes Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:14 AM To: Detomaso <[5]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Door cards. Hi all,just fitted a pair of new door mirrors and was in the process of refitting the door cards when I remembered a piece of advice a friends dad gave me forty years ago ( yeah I know) " don't put the plastic back on the door behind the card as it causes condensation and inevitably corrosion" What do you guys think, leave the plastic on or bin it? Thanks for any input Michael Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [6]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> [7]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [8]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> [9]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. http://www.cascadeaudio.com/automotive_audio_enhancement/dampers_for_cars .htm 2. mailto:johnmckee@cox.net 3. http://www.thermotec.com/products/14700-super-sonic-acoustical-mat.html 4. mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 5. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 6. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 7. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 8. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 9. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 16:27:10 +1200 From: John Bennett <jbennett111@zoho.com<mailto:jbennett111@zoho.com>> To: "DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com>" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join Message-ID: <E1A0B9E8-2028-4E34-B593-A1B84CBBD797@zoho.com<mailto:E1A0B9E8-2028-4E34-B593-A1B84CBBD797@zoho.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Great membership now only $50! Begin forwarded message: From: Ed Mendez <edducati@mac.com<mailto:edducati@mac.com>> Subject: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join Date: 26 June 2016 at 16:25:26 NZST To: San Diego Panteras <sdpanteras@googlegroups.com<mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com>>, Space City Panteras <SCPOCA@yahoogroups.com<mailto:SCPOCA@yahoogroups.com>> Please spread the word! We have created an easy to remember, simple web address for people to sign up online. Simply go to www.poca.com/join <http://www.poca.com/join> to have people sign up. You can sign up people on your smart phone at car shows, events, etc. In addition, you can now choose the International option; no matter where you live, and receive a full POCA membership for $50.00 instead of $75.00. What this option gives you is to receive "Digital only" Newsletters and Profiles in full color pdf format. Note: If they want posted hardcopies then they would choose the Domestic option for the standard $75.00, Don?t forget we have the 3 5 1 program, they more members you get benefits the club and yourself. Details here: https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896&modu le_id=225364 <https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896&mod ule_id=225364> Thanks, Ed Mendez PR Director - POCA www.poca.com <http://www.poca.com/> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SDPANTERAS" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sdpanteras+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com<mailto:sdpanteras+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com> <mailto:sdpanteras+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to sdpanteras@googlegroups.com<mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com> <mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com>. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -------------- next part -------------- Great membership now only $50! Begin forwarded message: From: Ed Mendez <[1]edducati@mac.com<mailto:edducati@mac.com>> Subject: [SDP] New JOIN url for [2]www.poca.com/join Date: 26 June 2016 at 16:25:26 NZST To: San Diego Panteras <[3]sdpanteras@googlegroups.com<mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com>>, Space City Panteras <[4]SCPOCA@yahoogroups.com<mailto:SCPOCA@yahoogroups.com>> Please spread the word! We have created an easy to remember, simple web address for people to sign up online. Simply go to [5]www.poca.com/join to have people sign up. You can sign up people on your smart phone at car shows, events, etc. In addition, you can now choose the International option; no matter where you live, and receive a full POCA membership for $50.00 instead of $75.00. What this option gives you is to receive "Digital only" Newsletters and Profiles in full color pdf format. Note: If they want posted hardcopies then they would choose the Domestic option for the standard $75.00, Don't forget we have the 3 5 1 program, they more members you get benefits the club and yourself. Details here: [6]https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896& module_id=225364 Thanks, Ed Mendez PR Director - POCA [7]www.poca.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SDPANTERAS" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [8]sdpanteras+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com<mailto:sdpanteras+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to [9]sdpanteras@googlegroups.com<mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com>. For more options, visit [10]https://groups.google.com/d/optout. References 1. mailto:edducati@mac.com 2. http://www.poca.com/join 3. mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com 4. mailto:SCPOCA@yahoogroups.com 5. http://www.poca.com/join 6. https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896&modul e_id=225364 7. http://www.poca.com/ 8. mailto:sdpanteras+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com 9. mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com 10. https://groups.google.com/d/optout ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 12:53:56 +0100 From: Michael Barnes <michaelbarnessrt10@hotmail.co.uk<mailto:michaelbarnessrt10@hotmail.co.uk>> To: Detomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear calliper rebuild kit for a '74 Message-ID: <DUB410-EAS13656BB193887FECF9AB87388200@phx.gbl<mailto:DUB410-EAS13656BB193887FECF9AB87388200@phx.gbl>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Has anyone got a contact in the U.K. Who can supply these please? Thanks in advance Michael Sent from my iPad ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 21:04:47 +0900 From: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew@aol.com<mailto:MikeLDrew@aol.com>> To: Michael Barnes <michaelbarnessrt10@hotmail.co.uk<mailto:michaelbarnessrt10@hotmail.co.uk>> Cc: Detomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear calliper rebuild kit for a '74 Message-ID: <5893C485-999A-4670-80E0-91DEB98DDA49@aol.com<mailto:5893C485-999A-4670-80E0-91DEB98DDA49@aol.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Michael, Here you go: http://performance-braking.co.uk/ Run by a guy named Jonathan Freeth, who was the head of Girling racing division when Girling went belly-up. He bought all the inventory, blueprints and tooling and continues to service all Girling products, and can even provide new castings for some models. He probably offers a rebuild service too. If you do it yourself be sure to read the manual before you pick up spanner one, and know exactly what needs to be done in order to compress the piston. Get it wrong and you will destroy the parking brake function. Cheers! Mike Sent from my iPad On Jun 26, 2016, at 20:53, Michael Barnes <michaelbarnessrt10@hotmail.co.uk<mailto:michaelbarnessrt10@hotmail.co.uk>> wrote: Has anyone got a contact in the U.K. Who can supply these please? Thanks in advance Michael Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -------------- next part -------------- Michael, Here you go: [1]http://performance-braking.co.uk/ Run by a guy named Jonathan Freeth, who was the head of Girling racing division when Girling went belly-up. He bought all the inventory, blueprints and tooling and continues to service all Girling products, and can even provide new castings for some models. He probably offers a rebuild service too. If you do it yourself be sure to read the manual before you pick up spanner one, and know exactly what needs to be done in order to compress the piston. Get it wrong and you will destroy the parking brake function. Cheers! Mike Sent from my iPad On Jun 26, 2016, at 20:53, Michael Barnes <[2]michaelbarnessrt10@hotmail.co.uk<mailto:michaelbarnessrt10@hotmail.co.uk>> wrote: Has anyone got a contact in the U.K. Who can supply these please? Thanks in advance Michael Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [3]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> [4]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. http://performance-braking.co.uk/ 2. mailto:michaelbarnessrt10@hotmail.co.uk 3. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 4. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 08:35:08 -0400 From: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <byrdjf@embarqmail.com<mailto:byrdjf@embarqmail.com>> To: "'DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:'DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com>'" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Cc: 'Ed Mendez' <edducati@mac.com<mailto:edducati@mac.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join Message-ID: <000601d1cfa7$2d767100$88635300$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Is the international option discussed/mentioned on the POCA web site? If one opts for the international, will hard copies be available to purchase in case there is one desired? -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of John Bennett Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 0:27 AM To: DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join Great membership now only $50! Begin forwarded message: From: Ed Mendez <edducati@mac.com<mailto:edducati@mac.com>> Subject: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join Date: 26 June 2016 at 16:25:26 NZST To: San Diego Panteras <sdpanteras@googlegroups.com<mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com>>, Space City Panteras <SCPOCA@yahoogroups.com<mailto:SCPOCA@yahoogroups.com>> Please spread the word! We have created an easy to remember, simple web address for people to sign up online. Simply go to www.poca.com/join <http://www.poca.com/join> to have people sign up. You can sign up people on your smart phone at car shows, events, etc. In addition, you can now choose the International option; no matter where you live, and receive a full POCA membership for $50.00 instead of $75.00. What this option gives you is to receive "Digital only" Newsletters and Profiles in full color pdf format. Note: If they want posted hardcopies then they would choose the Domestic option for the standard $75.00, Don?t forget we have the 3 5 1 program, they more members you get benefits the club and yourself. Details here: https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896&modu le_id=225364 <https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=999896&mod ule_id=225364> Thanks, Ed Mendez PR Director - POCA www.poca.com <http://www.poca.com/> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SDPANTERAS" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sdpanteras+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com<mailto:sdpanteras+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com> <mailto:sdpanteras+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to sdpanteras@googlegroups.com<mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com> <mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com>. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. ------------------------------ End of DeTomaso Digest, Vol 144, Issue 27 ***************************************** _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. Terry , I am a fan of using original radiators . Just keep using it . If you ever notice your temps beginning to rise ( under circumstances that they normally wouldn't have ) then just remove and have it serviced . ( cleaned ) . If it ever develops a leak , it can be repaired or re-cored . - Jim Coyne From: terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov To: larrys@panteraparts.com; owen@tadhgcooke.com; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2016 15:22:19 +0000 Subject: [DeTomaso] Speaking of radiators. Good Morgn Everyone, I have the original radiator. Should I think about getting a new radiator? I was wondering how many of you still have the original radiator? Mine works fine. Other than new fans when the old ones died, my radiator has be en a solid performer. Even in Los Wages it was great. Trip up to Mt Charleston, Valley of Fire, no pr oblems. So how long can it last? 42 years is a long time!! Terry "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 thimes@jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov> Regional indicator for USA From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces @server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Larry Stock <larrys@panteraparts.com<mai lto:larrys@panteraparts.com>> Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2016 7:58 AM To: Owen Cooke <owen@tadhgcooke.com<mailto:owen@tadhgcooke.com>>, "detomaso@serv er.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>" <detomaso@server.d etomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 144, Issue 27 If this just happened suddenly, Check the thermostat first, and like Chuck said, make sure it is a Cleveland not a more common Windsor thermostat. It is otherwise the Radiator. No amount of fans can cool a clogged radiator much less one that was not that well designed in the first place. A new Fluidyne with the proper NoRossion water additive to keep the Lucas anodes at bay, will make an unbelievable difference. Larry Stock Pantera Parts Connection On 7/5/16, 7:13 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Owen Cooke" <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomas olist.com> on behalf of owen@tadhgcooke.com<mailto:owen@tadhgcooke.com>> wrote: Guys i need advice please I have a nice original 1972 pre L pantera i have some cooling problems in traffic even though i am in Ireland and its never very hot here rad and fans are original. with no vents in front hood i notice that the hood got extremely hot and i got some boiling over the fans were working but they are the originals and not very powerful i am considering putting vents in the hood and fitting a new rad and fans kit assembly (PPC Fluidyne rad ) from pantera parts this the one with puller fans but i want to keep it upright does this plan make sense i dont need a massive improvement in cooling - i only had this slight boiling over in the swirl tank once also i fitted a new temp sender on the engine front and it read about 160 degrees until now its reading 230 degress all the time with only veery small vasriation in reading even when engine is cold any quick ideas on why it would suddenly go wrong ? i would appreciate advice best regards owen cooke On 26/06/2016 17:00, detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-re quest@server.detomasolist.com> wrote: Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit [1]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-request@server.detomaso list.com> You can reach the person managing the list at detomaso-owner@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-owner@server.detomasolist .com> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." Daily Detomaso List Digest Today's Topics: 1. Re: Good News (for me anyways) (Mike Thomas) 2. Re: Good News (for me anyways) (Christopher Kimball) 3. Re: Tech Session (Jeff Detrich) 4. Re: News from Laurie (Jeff Detrich) 5. Re: Door cards. (Jeff Detrich) 6. Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join (John Bennett) 7. Rear calliper rebuild kit for a '74 (Michael Barnes) 8. Re: Rear calliper rebuild kit for a '74 (Mike Drew) 9. Re: Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join (Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 10:21:01 -0700 From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas@comcast.net<mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net>> To: "'Christopher Kimball'" <chrisvkimball@msn.com<mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com>
, "'MyCars'" <mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>>, "'Pantera Owners Club of Americ a'" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Message-ID: <002301d1cf05$f29e1ed0$d7da5c70$@comcast.net<mailto:002301d1cf05$f29 e1ed0$d7da5c70$@comcast.net>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Yes you do, Chris . . . Well, in one sense at least. Some have said that when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm this time . . .". So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling Pandora could mean one ant the same. I know that is not in your plans . . . Mike -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Kimball Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM To: MyCars <mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>>; Pantera Owners Club of America <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Congrats! I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can finish my car. Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... Sincerely, Chris To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> From: mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2 years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres worth of avocados to a local distributor. Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTo maso@server.detomasolist.com> [2]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 12:00:55 -0700 From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball@msn.com<mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com>> To: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas@comcast.net<mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net>>, 'MyCars ' <mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>>, 'Pantera Owners Club of America ' <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Message-ID: <SNT404-EAS234F076ADB7D765A18CEA74BC2F0@phx.gbl<mailto:SNT404-EAS234 F076ADB7D765A18CEA74BC2F0@phx.gbl>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I hope not, but the thought is starting to cross my mind more frequently... Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Mike Thomas<mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net> Sent: ?6/?25/?2016 10:21 AM To: 'Christopher Kimball'<mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com>; 'MyCars'<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>; 'Pantera Owners Club of America'<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Yes you do, Chris . . . Well, in one sense at least. Some have said that when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm this time . . .". So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling Pandora could mean one ant the same. I know that is not in your plans . . . Mike -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Kimball Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM To: MyCars <mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>>; Pantera Owners Club of America <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Congrats! I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can finish my car. Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... Sincerely, Chris To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> From: mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2 years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres worth of avocados to a local distributor. Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTo maso@server.detomasolist.com> [3]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
Jim, good advice. Been there, done that when I developed a leak. Recored it and still use stock fans. While I have new fans, and one of the new laydowns with fans (I won it in 2006 Vegas fun rally) I have seen no need to replace the radiator or fans just for the sake of change. Dick Koch - Atlanta On Jul 5, 2016 12:15 PM, "James coyne" <tecnosound@hotmail.com> wrote:
Terry , I am a fan of using original radiators . Just keep using it . If you ever notice your temps beginning to rise ( under circumstances that they normally wouldn't have ) then just remove and have it serviced . ( cleaned ) . If it ever develops a leak , it can be repaired or re-cored . - Jim Coyne From: terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov To: larrys@panteraparts.com; owen@tadhgcooke.com; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2016 15:22:19 +0000 Subject: [DeTomaso] Speaking of radiators. Good Morgn Everyone,
I have the original radiator. Should I think about getting a new radiator? I was wondering how many of you still have the original radiator?
Mine works fine. Other than new fans when the old ones died, my radiator has be en a solid performer. Even in Los Wages it was great. Trip up to Mt Charleston, Valley of Fire, no pr oblems.
So how long can it last? 42 years is a long time!!
Terry "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"
"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"
Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 thimes@jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov> Regional indicator for USA
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com<mailto: detomaso-bounces @server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Larry Stock < larrys@panteraparts.com<mai lto:larrys@panteraparts.com>> Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2016 7:58 AM To: Owen Cooke <owen@tadhgcooke.com<mailto:owen@tadhgcooke.com>>, "detomaso@serv er.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>" <detomaso@server.d etomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 144, Issue 27
If this just happened suddenly, Check the thermostat first, and like Chuck said, make sure it is a Cleveland not a more common Windsor thermostat. It is otherwise the Radiator. No amount of fans can cool a clogged radiator much less one that was not that well designed in the first place. A new Fluidyne with the proper NoRossion water additive to keep the Lucas anodes at bay, will make an unbelievable difference. Larry Stock Pantera Parts Connection
On 7/5/16, 7:13 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Owen Cooke" <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com<mailto: detomaso-bounces@server.detomas olist.com> on behalf of owen@tadhgcooke.com<mailto:owen@tadhgcooke.com>> wrote:
Guys i need advice please
I have a nice original 1972 pre L pantera
i have some cooling problems in traffic even though i am in Ireland and its never very hot here
rad and fans are original. with no vents in front hood i notice that the hood got extremely hot and i got some boiling over the fans were working but they are the originals and not very powerful
i am considering putting vents in the hood and fitting a new rad and fans kit assembly (PPC Fluidyne rad ) from pantera parts this the one with puller fans but i want to keep it upright
does this plan make sense i dont need a massive improvement in cooling - i only had this slight boiling over in the swirl tank once also i fitted a new temp sender on the engine front and it read about 160 degrees until now its reading 230 degress all the time with only veery small vasriation in reading even when engine is cold any quick ideas on why it would suddenly go wrong ? i would appreciate advice
best regards owen cooke
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Good News (for me anyways) (Mike Thomas) 2. Re: Good News (for me anyways) (Christopher Kimball) 3. Re: Tech Session (Jeff Detrich) 4. Re: News from Laurie (Jeff Detrich) 5. Re: Door cards. (Jeff Detrich) 6. Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join (John Bennett) 7. Rear calliper rebuild kit for a '74 (Michael Barnes) 8. Re: Rear calliper rebuild kit for a '74 (Mike Drew) 9. Re: Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN url for www.poca.com/join (Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.)
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Message: 1 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 10:21:01 -0700 From: "Mike Thomas" <mbefthomas@comcast.net<mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net
To: "'Christopher Kimball'" <chrisvkimball@msn.com<mailto: chrisvkimball@msn.com> , "'MyCars'" <mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>>, "'Pantera Owners Club of Americ a'" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Message-ID: <002301d1cf05$f29e1ed0$d7da5c70$@comcast.net<mailto: 002301d1cf05$f29 e1ed0$d7da5c70$@comcast.net>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Yes you do, Chris . . . Well, in one sense at least. Some have said that when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm this time . . .". So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling Pandora could mean one ant the same. I know that is not in your plans . . .
Mike
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Kimball Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM To: MyCars <mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>>; Pantera Owners Club of America <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
Congrats! I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can finish my car. Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... Sincerely, Chris
To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> From: mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2 years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres worth of avocados to a local distributor.
Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. _______________________________________________
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Message: 2 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 12:00:55 -0700 From: Christopher Kimball <chrisvkimball@msn.com<mailto: chrisvkimball@msn.com>> To: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas@comcast.net<mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net>>, 'MyCars ' <mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>>, 'Pantera Owners Club of America ' <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com
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I hope not, but the thought is starting to cross my mind more frequently...
Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Mike Thomas<mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net> Sent: ?6/?25/?2016 10:21 AM To: 'Christopher Kimball'<mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com>; 'MyCars'<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>; 'Pantera Owners Club of America'<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
Yes you do, Chris . . . Well, in one sense at least. Some have said that when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm this time . . .". So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling Pandora could mean one ant the same. I know that is not in your plans . . .
Mike
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Kimball Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM To: MyCars <mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>>; Pantera Owners Club of America <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
Congrats! I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can finish my car. Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... Sincerely, Chris
To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> From: mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways)
So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2 years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres worth of avocados to a local distributor.
Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. _______________________________________________
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Jim, good advice. Been there, done that when I developed a leak. Recored it and still use stock fans. While I have new fans, and one of the new laydowns with fans (I won it in 2006 Vegas fun rally) I have seen no need to replace the radiator or fans just for the sake of change. Dick Koch - Atlanta On Jul 5, 2016 12:15 PM, "James coyne" <[1]tecnosound@hotmail.com> wrote: A A Terry , I am a fan of using original radiators . Just keep using it . A A If you ever notice your temps beginning to rise ( under circumstances A A that they normally wouldn't have ) then just remove and have it A A serviced . ( cleaned ) . If it ever develops a leak , it can be A A repaired or re-cored . - Jim Coyne A A From: [2]terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov A A To: [3]larrys@panteraparts.com; [4]owen@tadhgcooke.com; A A [5]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com A A Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2016 15:22:19 +0000 A A Subject: [DeTomaso] Speaking of radiators. Good Morgn Everyone, I have the original radiator.A Should I think about getting a new radiator? I was wondering how many of you still have the original radiator? Mine works fine.A Other than new fans when the old ones died, my radiator has be en a solid performer. Even in Los Wages it was great.A Trip up to Mt Charleston, Valley of Fire, no pr oblems. So how long can it last?A A 42 years is a long time!! Terry "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, A stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: [6](818) 393-6261 Cell:A A A [7](818) 653-8213 Fax:A A A [8](818) 393-3147 [9]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:[10]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov> A Regional indicator for USA From: DeTomaso <[11]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[12]detomaso-bo unces @[13]server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Larry Stock <[14]larrys@panteraparts.com<mai [15]lto:larrys@panteraparts.com>> Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2016 7:58 AM To: Owen Cooke <[16]owen@tadhgcooke.com<mailto:[17]owen@tadhgcooke.com>>, "detomaso@serv [18]er.detomasolist.com<mailto:[19]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> " <detomaso@server.d [20]etomasolist.com<mailto:[21]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 144, Issue 27 If this just happened suddenly, Check the thermostat first, and like Chuck said, make sure it is a Cleveland not a more common Windsor thermostat. It is otherwise the Radiator. No amount of fans can cool a clogged radiator much less one that was not that well designed in the first place. A new Fluidyne with the proper NoRossion water additive to keep the Lucas anodes at bay, will make an unbelievable difference. Larry Stock Pantera Parts Connection On 7/5/16, 7:13 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Owen Cooke" <[22]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[23]detomaso-bo unces@server.detomas [24]olist.com> on behalf of [25]owen@tadhgcooke.com<mailto:[26]owen@tadhgcooke.com>> wrote: GuysA i need advice please I have a nice original 1972 pre L pantera i have some cooling problems in trafficA even though i am in Ireland and its never very hot here rad and fans are original. with no vents in front hood i notice that the hood got extremely hot and i got some boiling over the fans were working but they are the originals and not very powerful i am considering putting vents in the hood and fitting a new rad and fans kit assembly (PPC Fluidyne rad ) from pantera parts this the one with puller fansA but i want to keep it upright does this plan make sense i dont need a massive improvement in cooling - i only had this slight boiling over in the swirl tank once also i fitted a new temp sender on the engine frontA and it read about 160 degreesA until now its reading 230 degress all the time with only veery small vasriation in readingA even when engine is cold any quick ideas on why it would suddenly go wrong ? i would appreciate advice best regardsA owen cooke On 26/06/2016 17:00, [27]detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[28]detomaso-re [29]quest@server.detomasolist.com> wrote: Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to [30]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[31]detomaso@server.deto masolist.com> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit [1][32]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [33]detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[34]detomaso-req uest@server.detomaso [35]list.com> You can reach the person managing the list at [36]detomaso-owner@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[37]detomaso-owner @server.detomasolist .com> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." 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Byrd, Jr.) -------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 10:21:01 -0700 From: "Mike Thomas" <[40]mbefthomas@comcast.net<mailto:[41]mbefthomas@comcast.net>> To: "'Christopher Kimball'" <[42]chrisvkimball@msn.com<mailto:[43]chrisvkimball@msn.com> >, "'MyCars'" <[44]mycars@comcast.net<mailto:[45]mycars@comcast.net>>, "'Pantera Owners Club of Americ a'" <[46]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[47]detomaso@server.det omasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Message-ID: <002301d1cf05$f29e1ed0$d7da5c70$@[48]comcast.net<mailto:[49]002301d1 cf05$f29 e1ed0$d7da5c70$@[50]comcast.net>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yes you do, Chris . . .A Well, in one sense at least.A Some have said that when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm this time . . .".A So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling Pandora could mean one ant the same.A I know that is not in your plans . . . Mike -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:[51]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Kimball Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM To: MyCars <[52]mycars@comcast.net<mailto:[53]mycars@comcast.net>>; Pantera Owners Club of America <[54]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[55]detomaso@server.det omasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Congrats! I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can finish my car.A Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... Sincerely, Chris To: [56]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[57]detomaso@server.deto masolist.com> From: [58]mycars@comcast.net<mailto:[59]mycars@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2 years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres worth of avocados to a local distributor. Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [60]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[61]DeTo [62]maso@server.detomasolist.com> [2][63]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 12:00:55 -0700 From: Christopher Kimball <[64]chrisvkimball@msn.com<mailto:[65]chrisvkimball@msn.com>> To: Mike Thomas <[66]mbefthomas@comcast.net<mailto:[67]mbefthomas@comcast.net>>, 'MyCars ' <[68]mycars@comcast.net<mailto:[69]mycars@comcast.net>>, 'Pantera Owners Club of America ' <[70]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[71]detomaso@server.det omasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Message-ID: <SNT404-EAS234F076ADB7D765A18CEA74BC2F0@phx.gbl<mailto:[72]SNT404-EA S234 F076ADB7D765A18CEA74BC2F0@phx.gbl>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I hope not, but the thought is starting to cross my mind more frequently... Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Mike Thomas<mailto:[73]mbefthomas@comcast.net> Sent: ?6/?25/?2016 10:21 AM To: 'Christopher Kimball'<mailto:[74]chrisvkimball@msn.com>; 'MyCars'<mailto:[75]mycars@comcast.net>; 'Pantera Owners Club of America'<mailto:[76]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Yes you do, Chris . . .A Well, in one sense at least.A Some have said that when you and Pandora came together, that you "really bought the farm this time . . .".A So, by that reasoning, selling the farm and selling Pandora could mean one ant the same.A I know that is not in your plans . . . Mike -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:[77]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Kimball Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM To: MyCars <[78]mycars@comcast.net<mailto:[79]mycars@comcast.net>>; Pantera Owners Club of America <[80]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[81]detomaso@server.det omasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) Congrats! I hope I have as much patience to wait for my farm to sell so I can finish my car.A Oh, wait; I don't have a farm... Sincerely, Chris To: [82]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[83]detomaso@server.deto masolist.com> From: [84]mycars@comcast.net<mailto:[85]mycars@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700 Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me anyways) So I finally got the organic certification for the farm, it has been 2 years. In the next few weeks I'll be picking & selling a few acres worth of avocados to a local distributor. Now for the Pantera content. Once I get paid for the avocados, I'll be able to afford to ship my cars (push button Pantera & convertible Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years of being separated from my Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some roads. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [86]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[87]DeTo [88]maso@server.detomasolist.com> [3][89]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
Terry, Coolant hoses tend to fail catastrophically, radiators and water pumps tend to only start weeping when they fail so usually you can detect the problem before it becomes serious. But ... this assumes you're routinely checking your coolant level. For our little used Panteras, a pre-flight check of the coolant level is prudent. In the unlikely event (after 42 years) that your radiator does start leaking, getting an original radiator re-cored is relatively painless - just make sure to remind the radiator shop to check the condition of solder seal on the side tank baffle that lies between the two radiator hose connections. I say ride it hard and put it in the barn wet! But this should only be done if you don't forget your pre-flight checks. Oh Crap - I'm mixing my Westerns with Aviation. Doug Braun Blue 73L #5505 -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Himes, Terry (397C) Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2016 8:22 AM To: Larry Stock <larrys@panteraparts.com>; Owen Cooke <owen@tadhgcooke.com>; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Speaking of radiators. Good Morgn Everyone, I have the original radiator. Should I think about getting a new radiator? I was wondering how many of you still have the original radiator? Mine works fine. Other than new fans when the old ones died, my radiator has been a solid performer. Even in Los Wages it was great. Trip up to Mt Charleston, Valley of Fire, no problems. So how long can it last? 42 years is a long time!! Terry "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"
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