A few days ago I posted the link to the BroadArrow/Hagerty listing with a pic. Did anyone see that? Dave Dave Londry. TRGuys.com davel@trguys.com
Sorry, no? But we see this post? Mike Sent from my iPad
On May 16, 2025, at 08:18, Dave Londry <davel@trguys.com> wrote:
A few days ago I posted the link to the BroadArrow/Hagerty listing with a pic. Did anyone see that? Dave
Dave Londry. TRGuys.com davel@trguys.com _______________________________________________
Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list -- detomaso@server.detomasolist.com To unsubscribe send an email to detomaso-leave@server.detomasolist.com
To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above.
Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
Dave, I did not see that post but I've only started to see email from the list again in the past few days. Apparently, I've had the ability to post but not to receive any replies. I've spoken with another list member and he has also started receiving email again so something has changed recently. As to Michael Shortt's Pantera for sale, I did see that for sale. The documentation from 1999 says the heads are Yates. Does anyone know if that's actually the case? Most of the Panteras that are advertised as having Yates heads actually have the pre-Yates heads (C302/C302B/C3) which share more design features with the OEM iron Cleveland heads. It would be important to the new owner to know that detail as they differ in important ways (valves aren't canted, require different pistons, rocker arms, intake manifolds, etc.). Also, the cam is a solid roller which needs frequent maintenance/inspection of the roller lifters and probably has a bronze distributor. Dan Jones On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 10:18 AM Dave Londry <davel@trguys.com> wrote:
A few days ago I posted the link to the BroadArrow/Hagerty listing with a pic. Did anyone see that? Dave
Dave Londry. TRGuys.com davel@trguys.com _______________________________________________
Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list -- detomaso@server.detomasolist.com To unsubscribe send an email to detomaso-leave@server.detomasolist.com
To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above.
Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
Dave, I did not see that post but I've only started to see email from the list again in the past few days. Apparently, I've had the ability to post but not to receive any replies. I've spoken with another list member and he has also started receiving email again so something has changed recently. As to Michael Shortt's Pantera for sale, I did see that for sale. The documentation from 1999 says the heads are Yates. Does anyone know if that's actually the case? Most of the Panteras that are advertised as having Yates heads actually have the pre-Yates heads (C302/C302B/C3) which share more design features with the OEM iron Cleveland heads. It would be important to the new owner to know that detail as they differ in important ways (valves aren't canted, require different pistons, rocker arms, intake manifolds, etc.). Also, the cam is a solid roller which needs frequent maintenance/inspection of the roller lifters and probably has a bronze distributor. Dan Jones On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 10:18 AM Dave Londry <[1]davel@trguys.com> wrote: A few days ago I posted the link to the BroadArrow/Hagerty listing with a pic. Did anyone see that? Dave Dave Londry. TRGuys.com [2]davel@trguys.com _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list -- [3]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com To unsubscribe send an email to [4]detomaso-leave@server.detomasolist.com To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. mailto:davel@trguys.com 2. mailto:davel@trguys.com 3. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 4. mailto:detomaso-leave@server.detomasolist.com
And it closes at noon PST today. Currently at $58k, no reserve. rbpna1xelGwrYq25e6z1zw.jpg [1]1971 DeTomaso Pantera for sale [2]hagerty.com Dave Dave Londry. TRGuys.com davel@trguys.com On May 16, 2025, at 8:18 AM, Dave Londry <davel@trguys.com> wrote: A few days ago I posted the link to the BroadArrow/Hagerty listing with a pic. Did anyone see that? Dave Dave Londry. TRGuys.com davel@trguys.com References Visible links: 1. https://www.hagerty.com/marketplace/auction/1971-DeTomaso-Pantera/9e2f2697-a... 2. https://www.hagerty.com/marketplace/auction/1971-DeTomaso-Pantera/9e2f2697-a... Hidden links: 4. https://www.hagerty.com/marketplace/auction/1971-DeTomaso-Pantera/9e2f2697-a...
Somebody’s going to get a great deal due to the stupid description. Unless he doesn’t know what he’s buying and then he is in for a bunch of problems. Mike Sent from my iPhone
On May 23, 2025, at 07:31, Dave Londry <davel@trguys.com> wrote:
And it closes at noon PST today.
Currently at $58k, no reserve.
rbpna1xelGwrYq25e6z1zw.jpg [1]1971 DeTomaso Pantera for sale [2]hagerty.com Dave
Dave Londry. TRGuys.com davel@trguys.com
On May 16, 2025, at 8:18 AM, Dave Londry <davel@trguys.com> wrote:
A few days ago I posted the link to the BroadArrow/Hagerty listing with a pic. Did anyone see that? Dave Dave Londry. TRGuys.com davel@trguys.com
References
Visible links: 1. https://www.hagerty.com/marketplace/auction/1971-DeTomaso-Pantera/9e2f2697-a... 2. https://www.hagerty.com/marketplace/auction/1971-DeTomaso-Pantera/9e2f2697-a...
Hidden links: 4. https://www.hagerty.com/marketplace/auction/1971-DeTomaso-Pantera/9e2f2697-a... _______________________________________________
Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list -- detomaso@server.detomasolist.com To unsubscribe send an email to detomaso-leave@server.detomasolist.com
To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above.
Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. <rbpna1xelGwrYq25e6z1zw.jpg>
Any speculation about how good or bad a deal this may or may not be is pointless until the auction ends, most of these auctions have furious bidding in the final stages and with a soft close clock reset with each new bid can drag on well past the allotted end time. Currently at $64k. Julian ________________________________ From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2025 8:12 AM To: Dave Londry <davel@trguys.com> Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Re: Michael Shortt’s car for sale Somebody’s going to get a great deal due to the stupid description. Unless he doesn’t know what he’s buying and then he is in for a bunch of problems. Mike Sent from my iPhone
On May 23, 2025, at 07:31, Dave Londry <davel@trguys.com> wrote:
And it closes at noon PST today.
Currently at $58k, no reserve.
rbpna1xelGwrYq25e6z1zw.jpg [1]1971 DeTomaso Pantera for sale [2]hagerty.com Dave
Dave Londry. TRGuys.com davel@trguys.com
On May 16, 2025, at 8:18 AM, Dave Londry <davel@trguys.com> wrote:
A few days ago I posted the link to the BroadArrow/Hagerty listing with a pic. Did anyone see that? Dave Dave Londry. TRGuys.com davel@trguys.com
References
Visible links: 1. https://www.hagerty.com/marketplace/auction/1971-DeTomaso-Pantera/9e2f2697-a... 2. https://www.hagerty.com/marketplace/auction/1971-DeTomaso-Pantera/9e2f2697-a...
Hidden links: 4. https://www.hagerty.com/marketplace/auction/1971-DeTomaso-Pantera/9e2f2697-a... _______________________________________________
Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list -- detomaso@server.detomasolist.com To unsubscribe send an email to detomaso-leave@server.detomasolist.com
To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above.
Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. <rbpna1xelGwrYq25e6z1zw.jpg>
On May 23, 2025, at 07:31, Dave Londry <davel@trguys.com> wrote:
And it closes at noon PST today.
Currently at $58k, no reserve.
rbpna1xelGwrYq25e6z1zw.jpg [1]1971 DeTomaso Pantera for sale [2]hagerty.com Dave
Dave Londry. TRGuys.com davel@trguys.com
On May 16, 2025, at 8:18 AM, Dave Londry <davel@trguys.com> wrote:
A few days ago I posted the link to the BroadArrow/Hagerty listing with a pic. Did anyone see that? Dave Dave Londry. TRGuys.com davel@trguys.com
References
Visible links: 1. [1]https://www.hagerty.com/marketplace/auction/1971-DeTomaso-Pantera/9e 2f2697-af4b-4970-a5ec-15e8576f8679 2. [2]https://www.hagerty.com/marketplace/auction/1971-DeTomaso-Pantera/9e 2f2697-af4b-4970-a5ec-15e8576f8679
Hidden links: 4. [3]https://www.hagerty.com/marketplace/auction/1971-DeTomaso-Pantera/9e 2f2697-af4b-4970-a5ec-15e8576f8679 _______________________________________________
Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list -- detomaso@server.detomasolist.com To unsubscribe send an email to detomaso-leave@server.detomasolist.com
To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above.
Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the
_______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list -- detomaso@server.detomasolist.com To unsubscribe send an email to detomaso-leave@server.detomasolist.com To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. Any speculation about how good or bad a deal this may or may not be is pointless until the auction ends, most of these auctions have furious bidding in the final stages and with a soft close clock reset with each new bid can drag on well past the allotted end time. Currently at $64k. Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2025 8:12 AM To: Dave Londry <davel@trguys.com> Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Re: Michael Shortt’s car for sale Somebody’s going to get a great deal due to the stupid description. Unless he doesn’t know what he’s buying and then he is in for a bunch of problems. Mike Sent from my iPhone list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
<rbpna1xelGwrYq25e6z1zw.jpg>
Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list -- detomaso@server.detomasolist.com To unsubscribe send an email to detomaso-leave@server.detomasolist.com To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. https://www.hagerty.com/marketplace/auction/1971-DeTomaso-Pantera/9e2f2697-a... 2. https://www.hagerty.com/marketplace/auction/1971-DeTomaso-Pantera/9e2f2697-a... 3. https://www.hagerty.com/marketplace/auction/1971-DeTomaso-Pantera/9e2f2697-a...
It seems there are seven of his vehicles on today, In addition to the Pantera, 3 bikes, a trailer, an AMG and a very odd Lola Formula Ford. Dave On 2025-05-23 10:00 a.m., Julian Kift wrote:
Any speculation about how good or bad a deal this may or may not be is pointless until the auction ends, most of these auctions have furious bidding in the final stages and with a soft close clock reset with each new bid can drag on well past the allotted end time.
Currently at $64k.
Julian
------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> *Sent:* Friday, May 23, 2025 8:12 AM *To:* Dave Londry <davel@trguys.com> *Cc:* detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> *Subject:* [DeTomaso] Re: Michael Shortt’s car for sale Somebody’s going to get a great deal due to the stupid description.
Unless he doesn’t know what he’s buying and then he is in for a bunch of problems.
Mike
Sent from my iPhone
On May 23, 2025, at 07:31, Dave Londry <davel@trguys.com> wrote:
And it closes at noon PST today.
Currently at $58k, no reserve.
rbpna1xelGwrYq25e6z1zw.jpg [1]1971 DeTomaso Pantera for sale [2]hagerty.com Dave
Dave Londry. TRGuys.com davel@trguys.com
On May 16, 2025, at 8:18 AM, Dave Londry <davel@trguys.com> wrote:
A few days ago I posted the link to the BroadArrow/Hagerty listing with a pic. Did anyone see that? Dave Dave Londry. TRGuys.com davel@trguys.com
References
Visible links: 1. https://www.hagerty.com/marketplace/auction/1971-DeTomaso-Pantera/9e2f2697-a... <https://www.hagerty.com/marketplace/auction/1971-DeTomaso-Pantera/9e2f2697-af4b-4970-a5ec-15e8576f8679> 2. https://www.hagerty.com/marketplace/auction/1971-DeTomaso-Pantera/9e2f2697-a... <https://www.hagerty.com/marketplace/auction/1971-DeTomaso-Pantera/9e2f2697-af4b-4970-a5ec-15e8576f8679>
Hidden links: 4. https://www.hagerty.com/marketplace/auction/1971-DeTomaso-Pantera/9e2f2697-a... <https://www.hagerty.com/marketplace/auction/1971-DeTomaso-Pantera/9e2f2697-af4b-4970-a5ec-15e8576f8679> _______________________________________________
Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list -- detomaso@server.detomasolist.com To unsubscribe send an email to detomaso-leave@server.detomasolist.com
To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above.
Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. <rbpna1xelGwrYq25e6z1zw.jpg>
_______________________________________________
Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list -- detomaso@server.detomasolist.com To unsubscribe send an email to detomaso-leave@server.detomasolist.com
To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above.
Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
On May 23, 2025, at 07:31, Dave Londry [5]<davel@trguys.com> wrote:
And it closes at noon PST today.
Currently at $58k, no reserve.
rbpna1xelGwrYq25e6z1zw.jpg [1]1971 DeTomaso Pantera for sale [2]hagerty.com Dave
Dave Londry. TRGuys.com [6]davel@trguys.com
On May 16, 2025, at 8:18 AM, Dave Londry [7]<davel@trguys.com> wrote:
A few days ago I posted the link to the BroadArrow/Hagerty listing with a pic. Did anyone see that? Dave Dave Londry. TRGuys.com [8]davel@trguys.com
References
Visible links: 1. [9]https://www.hagerty.com/marketplace/auction/1971-DeTomaso-Pantera/9e 2f2697-af4b-4970-a5ec-15e8576f8679 2. [10]https://www.hagerty.com/marketplace/auction/1971-DeTomaso-Pantera/9 e2f2697-af4b-4970-a5ec-15e8576f8679
Hidden links: 4. [11]https://www.hagerty.com/marketplace/auction/1971-DeTomaso-Pantera/9 e2f2697-af4b-4970-a5ec-15e8576f8679 _______________________________________________
Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list -- [12]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com To unsubscribe send an email to [13]detomaso-leave@server.detomasolist.com
To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above.
Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the
-- Dave Londry TRGuys.com davel@trguys.com It seems there are seven of his vehicles on today, In addition to the Pantera, 3 bikes, a trailer, an AMG and a very odd Lola Formula Ford. Dave On 2025-05-23 10:00 a.m., Julian Kift wrote: Any speculation about how good or bad a deal this may or may not be is pointless until the auction ends, most of these auctions have furious bidding in the final stages and with a soft close clock reset with each new bid can drag on well past the allotted end time. Currently at $64k. Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso [1]<detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2025 8:12 AM To: Dave Londry [2]<davel@trguys.com> Cc: [3]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com [4]<detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Re: Michael Shortt’s car for sale Somebody’s going to get a great deal due to the stupid description. Unless he doesn’t know what he’s buying and then he is in for a bunch of problems. Mike Sent from my iPhone list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
<rbpna1xelGwrYq25e6z1zw.jpg>
Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list -- [14]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com To unsubscribe send an email to [15]detomaso-leave@server.detomasolist.com To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. -- Dave Londry TRGuys.com [16]davel@trguys.com References 1. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 2. mailto:davel@trguys.com 3. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 4. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 5. mailto:davel@trguys.com 6. mailto:davel@trguys.com 7. mailto:davel@trguys.com 8. mailto:davel@trguys.com 9. https://www.hagerty.com/marketplace/auction/1971-DeTomaso-Pantera/9e2f2697-a... 10. https://www.hagerty.com/marketplace/auction/1971-DeTomaso-Pantera/9e2f2697-a... 11. https://www.hagerty.com/marketplace/auction/1971-DeTomaso-Pantera/9e2f2697-a... 12. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 13. mailto:detomaso-leave@server.detomasolist.com 14. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 15. mailto:detomaso-leave@server.detomasolist.com 16. mailto:davel@trguys.com
participants (4)
-
Daniel C Jones -
Dave Londry -
Julian Kift -
Mike Drew