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Aloha Kurt, Are you talking about text or image copyrights? Mahalo, Scott Sent from my iPhone
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Speaking of copyright; Does POCA have any say over the public posting of the Ford Shop Manual, TSB and Parts books? -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Scott Mead Photography Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 17:16 PM To: Kurt Byrnes Cc: DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Copyright law Aloha Kurt, Are you talking about text or image copyrights? Mahalo, Scott Sent from my iPhone the links above.
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Fair use - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | | | | | | | | | | | Fair use - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | | | | From: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <byrdjf@embarqmail.com> To: Cc: DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Copyright law Speaking of copyright; Does POCA have any say over the public posting of the Ford Shop Manual, TSB and Parts books? -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Scott Mead Photography Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 17:16 PM To: Kurt Byrnes Cc: DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Copyright law Aloha Kurt, Are you talking about text or image copyrights? Mahalo, Scott Sent from my iPhone the links above.
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I am no expect but I believe Copyright has a limited life which is well less than the age of our cars. I think any copyright that Ford had has long ago expired? On Monday, May 23, 2016, Kurt Byrnes <kdb@kbyrnes.com> wrote:
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I am no expect but I believe Copyright has a limited life which is well less than the age of our cars. I think any copyright that Ford had has long ago expired? On Monday, May 23, 2016, Kurt Byrnes <[1]kdb@kbyrnes.com> wrote: If you or anyone you know could please advise me in regards to copyrights of material posted to the list, please contact me ASAP! Sheesh! _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [2]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. References 1. mailto:kdb@kbyrnes.com 2. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
There are a number of types of copyrights, each with their own lifespan and their own set of somewhat complex rules. We have been down this road a few times with respect to the use of FoMoCo documents and images. I seriously doubt the folks at Ford have any real concern over a car club's use of 45 year old documents. They are not going to screw over their own fan base by enforcing some copyright for a product they have not sold in 40 years. 99 problems -- this ain't one of them ------ Original Message ------ From: "Robert Pink" <robpink2012@gmail.com> To: "Kurt Byrnes" <kdb@kbyrnes.com> Cc: "DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: 5/23/2016 7:51:01 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Copyright law
I am no expect but I believe Copyright has a limited life which is well less than the age of our cars. I think any copyright that Ford had has long ago expired?
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You can look here: http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ15a.pdf or here: Duration of Copyrights (Bitlaw) | | | | | | | | | | | Duration of Copyrights (Bitlaw)This section of BitLaw describes the method for determining the duration of copyright protection. | | | | View on www.bitlaw.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | Basically, Sonny Bono worked hard to extend copyrights, which benefited the entertainment industry. From: Robert Pink <robpink2012@gmail.com> To: Kurt Byrnes <kdb@kbyrnes.com> Cc: "DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Copyright law I am no expect but I believe Copyright has a limited life which is well less than the age of our cars. I think any copyright that Ford had has long ago expired? On Monday, May 23, 2016, Kurt Byrnes <[1]kdb@kbyrnes.com> wrote: If you or anyone you know could please advise me in regards to copyrights of material posted to the list, please contact me ASAP! Sheesh! _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [2]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. References 1. mailto:kdb@kbyrnes.com 2. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. You can look here: [1]http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ15a.pdf or here: [2]Duration of Copyrights (Bitlaw) [3]image [4]Duration of Copyrights (Bitlaw) This section of BitLaw describes the method for determining the duration of copyright protection. [5]View on www.bitlaw.com Preview by Yahoo Basically, Sonny Bono worked hard to extend copyrights, which benefited the entertainment industry. __________________________________________________________________ From: Robert Pink <robpink2012@gmail.com> To: Kurt Byrnes <kdb@kbyrnes.com> Cc: "DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Copyright law I am no expect but I believe Copyright has a limited life which is well less than the age of our cars. I think any copyright that Ford had has long ago expired? On Monday, May 23, 2016, Kurt Byrnes <[1][6]kdb@kbyrnes.com> wrote: If you or anyone you know could please advise me in regards to copyrights of material posted to the list, please contact me ASAP! Sheesh! _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [7]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [2][8]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. References 1. mailto:[9]kdb@kbyrnes.com 2. [10]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [11]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [12]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. References 1. http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ15a.pdf 2. http://www.bitlaw.com/copyright/duration.html 3. http://www.bitlaw.com/copyright/duration.html 4. http://www.bitlaw.com/copyright/duration.html 5. http://www.bitlaw.com/copyright/duration.html 6. mailto:kdb@kbyrnes.com 7. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 8. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 9. mailto:kdb@kbyrnes.com 10. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso 11. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 12. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
Generally, you are not free to use a copyrighted work in its entirely, or substantial portions, but under the fair use, you can copy short sections of it if you are commenting on them, not reproducing the work as a whole. If it's something simple like a photo or painting, you cannot reproduce it in its original entirely, but I think there was a case where the court found that a low resolution thumb nail version of as copyrighted painting did not infringe because it would never be blown up and used as art. This looks pretty good: Using materials from the Internet | | | | | | | | | | | Using materials from the InternetUsing materials from the Internet | | | | View on copyright.lib.utexas.edu | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | From: Kurt Byrnes <kdb@kbyrnes.com> To: DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 1:41 PM Subject: [DeTomaso] Copyright law If you or anyone you know could please advise me in regards to copyrights of material posted to the list, please contact me ASAP! Sheesh! _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Generally, you are not free to use a copyrighted work in its entirely, or substantial portions, but under the fair use, you can copy short sections of it if you are commenting on them, not reproducing the work as a whole. If it's something simple like a photo or painting, you cannot reproduce it in its original entirely, but I think there was a case where the court found that a low resolution thumb nail version of as copyrighted painting did not infringe because it would never be blown up and used as art. This looks pretty good: [1]Using materials from the Internet [2]image [3]Using materials from the Internet Using materials from the Internet [4]View on copyright.lib.utexas.edu Preview by Yahoo __________________________________________________________________ From: Kurt Byrnes <kdb@kbyrnes.com> To: DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 1:41 PM Subject: [DeTomaso] Copyright law If you or anyone you know could please advise me in regards to copyrights of material posted to the list, please contact me ASAP! Sheesh! _______________________________________________ Detomaso Forum NO LONGER Managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [5]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [6]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. References 1. https://copyright.lib.utexas.edu/useofweb.html 2. https://copyright.lib.utexas.edu/useofweb.html 3. https://copyright.lib.utexas.edu/useofweb.html 4. https://copyright.lib.utexas.edu/useofweb.html 5. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 6. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
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