All, This past year for the first time since restoration, the bulkhead cover was off exposing the front of the engine. A mis-alignment of the alternator to the drive pulley on the water pump was noted. Is there another offset bracket that should have been used with the upgraded alternator or is there another solution anyone has for getting things back aligned? Thanks, Jim Kosloskey 1974 Yellow L #6949 All, This past year for the first time since restoration, the bulkhead cover was off exposing the front of the engine. A mis-alignment of the alternator to the drive pulley on the water pump was noted. Is there another offset bracket that should have been used with the upgraded alternator or is there another solution anyone has for getting things back aligned? Thanks, Jim Kosloskey 1974 Yellow L #6949
Jim, Wow, that’s pretty dramatic. So, the alternator bolts to a bracket which in turn bolts to the engine. I would start there. Are there spacers or shims on the through-bolt at the bottom on the back side that yiu could reposition to the front? You could also trim the back of the boss on the alternator casting slightly to allow it to sit further back in the bracket, and make up the space with washers on the front side? I had to do that once. We just used a simple hacksaw to make the two cuts necessary. Mike Sent from my iPad
On Jan 5, 2025, at 09:36, jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com wrote:
All,
This past year for the first time since restoration, the bulkhead cover was off exposing the front of the engine.
A mis-alignment of the alternator to the drive pulley on the water pump was noted.
Is there another offset bracket that should have been used with the upgraded alternator or is there another solution anyone has for getting things back aligned?
Thanks,
Jim Kosloskey 1974 Yellow L #6949 <Altenator mis-aligned.jpg> _______________________________________________
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Jim, Your photo doesn't quite go far enough to show the upper tensioning arm mounting on the Alternator, but looks as though it is not mounted against the ear on the alternator? Do you have some sort of spacer or nut in there that shouldn't be there? Julian ________________________________ From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2025 9:43 AM To: jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com <jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com> Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Re: Alternator mis-alignment Jim, Wow, that’s pretty dramatic. So, the alternator bolts to a bracket which in turn bolts to the engine. I would start there. Are there spacers or shims on the through-bolt at the bottom on the back side that yiu could reposition to the front? You could also trim the back of the boss on the alternator casting slightly to allow it to sit further back in the bracket, and make up the space with washers on the front side? I had to do that once. We just used a simple hacksaw to make the two cuts necessary. Mike Sent from my iPad
On Jan 5, 2025, at 09:36, jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com wrote:
All,
This past year for the first time since restoration, the bulkhead cover was off exposing the front of the engine.
A mis-alignment of the alternator to the drive pulley on the water pump was noted.
Is there another offset bracket that should have been used with the upgraded alternator or is there another solution anyone has for getting things back aligned?
Thanks,
Jim Kosloskey 1974 Yellow L #6949 <Altenator mis-aligned.jpg> _______________________________________________
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On Jan 5, 2025, at 09:36, jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com wrote:
All,
This past year for the first time since restoration, the bulkhead cover was off exposing the front of the engine.
A mis-alignment of the alternator to the drive pulley on the water
was noted.
Is there another offset bracket that should have been used with the upgraded alternator or is there another solution anyone has for getting things back aligned?
Thanks,
Jim Kosloskey 1974 Yellow L #6949 <Altenator mis-aligned.jpg> _______________________________________________
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_______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list -- detomaso@server.detomasolist.com To unsubscribe send an email to detomaso-leave@server.detomasolist.com To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. Jim, Your photo doesn't quite go far enough to show the upper tensioning arm mounting on the Alternator, but looks as though it is not mounted against the ear on the alternator? Do you have some sort of spacer or nut in there that shouldn't be there? Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2025 9:43 AM To: jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com <jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com> Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Re: Alternator mis-alignment Jim, Wow, that’s pretty dramatic. So, the alternator bolts to a bracket which in turn bolts to the engine. I would start there. Are there spacers or shims on the through-bolt at the bottom on the back side that yiu could reposition to the front? You could also trim the back of the boss on the alternator casting slightly to allow it to sit further back in the bracket, and make up the space with washers on the front side? I had to do that once. We just used a simple hacksaw to make the two cuts necessary. Mike Sent from my iPad pump list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list -- detomaso@server.detomasolist.com To unsubscribe send an email to detomaso-leave@server.detomasolist.com To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
Is it the correct alternator, is it the correct pulley on the water pump? I ask because in the photo it’s hard to tell but the alternator adjusting bracket looks to be in-line properly. It might not be. Compare all pulleys and see which ones appear to be out of line. If the alternator and crank pulley line up, then the one on the water pump is wrong. In fact it could be a wrong water pump with a shorter nose. Examine it a little more and let us know what you find. Asa Jay Sent via radio waves
On Jan 5, 2025, at 09:37, jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com wrote:
All,
This past year for the first time since restoration, the bulkhead cover was off exposing the front of the engine.
A mis-alignment of the alternator to the drive pulley on the water pump was noted.
Is there another offset bracket that should have been used with the upgraded alternator or is there another solution anyone has for getting things back aligned?
Thanks,
Jim Kosloskey 1974 Yellow L #6949 <Altenator mis-aligned.jpg> _______________________________________________
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Asa, Thanks for the insight and questions. I do not know if what is there is 'correct' or not. When I had PIM do the restoration I ordered their alternator upgrade. I just took it on faith they new how to do that work since they had the engine rebuilt/upgraded. I guess I was wrong. This is not the first discovery I have made of what appears to be improper work. The car is in its capsule for the winter so it will be May or later before this can be addressed. The mechanic that discovered the situation did not indicate a misalignment between water pump and crank - just the alternator to water pump issue. He asked me if there were after market offset brackets for the newer style alternators and if not suggested what Mike Drew suggested - that is machining off some of the boss of the alternator. I have attached another picture that I think more clearly shows the pulleys and it appears it is the Alternator out of whack. So, I think the approach will be to try to adapt the alternator by probably grinding down the boss some. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay@asajay.com> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2025 12:44 PM To: jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Alternator mis-alignment Is it the correct alternator, is it the correct pulley on the water pump? I ask because in the photo it’s hard to tell but the alternator adjusting bracket looks to be in-line properly. It might not be. Compare all pulleys and see which ones appear to be out of line. If the alternator and crank pulley line up, then the one on the water pump is wrong. In fact it could be a wrong water pump with a shorter nose. Examine it a little more and let us know what you find. Asa Jay Sent via radio waves
On Jan 5, 2025, at 09:37, jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com wrote:
All,
This past year for the first time since restoration, the bulkhead cover was off exposing the front of the engine.
A mis-alignment of the alternator to the drive pulley on the water pump was noted.
Is there another offset bracket that should have been used with the upgraded alternator or is there another solution anyone has for getting things back aligned?
Thanks,
Jim Kosloskey 1974 Yellow L #6949 <Altenator mis-aligned.jpg> _______________________________________________
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Honestly, if you don't do your own work, you get exactly what you pay for. Doing your own work makes the car yours. Otherwise it is just a headache hoping to find someone who doesn't screw it up too much. YMMV -----Original Message----- From: jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com <jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2025 10:42 AM To: 'Asa Jay Laughton' <asajay@asajay.com> Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Re: Alternator mis-alignment Asa, Thanks for the insight and questions. I do not know if what is there is 'correct' or not. When I had PIM do the restoration I ordered their alternator upgrade. I just took it on faith they new how to do that work since they had the engine rebuilt/upgraded. I guess I was wrong. This is not the first discovery I have made of what appears to be improper work. The car is in its capsule for the winter so it will be May or later before this can be addressed. The mechanic that discovered the situation did not indicate a misalignment between water pump and crank - just the alternator to water pump issue. He asked me if there were after market offset brackets for the newer style alternators and if not suggested what Mike Drew suggested - that is machining off some of the boss of the alternator. I have attached another picture that I think more clearly shows the pulleys and it appears it is the Alternator out of whack. So, I think the approach will be to try to adapt the alternator by probably grinding down the boss some. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay@asajay.com> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2025 12:44 PM To: jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Alternator mis-alignment Is it the correct alternator, is it the correct pulley on the water pump? I ask because in the photo it’s hard to tell but the alternator adjusting bracket looks to be in-line properly. It might not be. Compare all pulleys and see which ones appear to be out of line. If the alternator and crank pulley line up, then the one on the water pump is wrong. In fact it could be a wrong water pump with a shorter nose. Examine it a little more and let us know what you find. Asa Jay Sent via radio waves
On Jan 5, 2025, at 09:37, jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com wrote:
All,
This past year for the first time since restoration, the bulkhead cover was off exposing the front of the engine.
A mis-alignment of the alternator to the drive pulley on the water pump was noted.
Is there another offset bracket that should have been used with the upgraded alternator or is there another solution anyone has for getting things back aligned?
Thanks,
Jim Kosloskey 1974 Yellow L #6949 <Altenator mis-aligned.jpg> _______________________________________________
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Jim, The photo came through as a thumbnail, so hard to magnify and get resolution, but it sure looks like they installed an elongated bolt on the upper arm to compensate for the mismatch and knowingly kluge it rather than address the problem. Julian ________________________________ From: jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com <jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2025 10:41 AM To: 'Asa Jay Laughton' <asajay@asajay.com> Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Re: Alternator mis-alignment Asa, Thanks for the insight and questions. I do not know if what is there is 'correct' or not. When I had PIM do the restoration I ordered their alternator upgrade. I just took it on faith they new how to do that work since they had the engine rebuilt/upgraded. I guess I was wrong. This is not the first discovery I have made of what appears to be improper work. The car is in its capsule for the winter so it will be May or later before this can be addressed. The mechanic that discovered the situation did not indicate a misalignment between water pump and crank - just the alternator to water pump issue. He asked me if there were after market offset brackets for the newer style alternators and if not suggested what Mike Drew suggested - that is machining off some of the boss of the alternator. I have attached another picture that I think more clearly shows the pulleys and it appears it is the Alternator out of whack. So, I think the approach will be to try to adapt the alternator by probably grinding down the boss some. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay@asajay.com> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2025 12:44 PM To: jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Alternator mis-alignment Is it the correct alternator, is it the correct pulley on the water pump? I ask because in the photo it’s hard to tell but the alternator adjusting bracket looks to be in-line properly. It might not be. Compare all pulleys and see which ones appear to be out of line. If the alternator and crank pulley line up, then the one on the water pump is wrong. In fact it could be a wrong water pump with a shorter nose. Examine it a little more and let us know what you find. Asa Jay Sent via radio waves
On Jan 5, 2025, at 09:37, jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com wrote:
All,
This past year for the first time since restoration, the bulkhead cover was off exposing the front of the engine.
A mis-alignment of the alternator to the drive pulley on the water pump was noted.
Is there another offset bracket that should have been used with the upgraded alternator or is there another solution anyone has for getting things back aligned?
Thanks,
Jim Kosloskey 1974 Yellow L #6949 <Altenator mis-aligned.jpg> _______________________________________________
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On Jan 5, 2025, at 09:37, jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com wrote:
All,
This past year for the first time since restoration, the bulkhead cover was off exposing the front of the engine.
A mis-alignment of the alternator to the drive pulley on the water
was noted.
Is there another offset bracket that should have been used with the upgraded alternator or is there another solution anyone has for getting things back aligned?
Thanks,
Jim Kosloskey 1974 Yellow L #6949 <Altenator mis-aligned.jpg> _______________________________________________
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Jim, The photo came through as a thumbnail, so hard to magnify and get resolution, but it sure looks like they installed an elongated bolt on the upper arm to compensate for the mismatch and knowingly kluge it rather than address the problem. Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com <jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2025 10:41 AM To: 'Asa Jay Laughton' <asajay@asajay.com> Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Re: Alternator mis-alignment Asa, Thanks for the insight and questions. I do not know if what is there is 'correct' or not. When I had PIM do the restoration I ordered their alternator upgrade. I just took it on faith they new how to do that work since they had the engine rebuilt/upgraded. I guess I was wrong. This is not the first discovery I have made of what appears to be improper work. The car is in its capsule for the winter so it will be May or later before this can be addressed. The mechanic that discovered the situation did not indicate a misalignment between water pump and crank - just the alternator to water pump issue. He asked me if there were after market offset brackets for the newer style alternators and if not suggested what Mike Drew suggested - that is machining off some of the boss of the alternator. I have attached another picture that I think more clearly shows the pulleys and it appears it is the Alternator out of whack. So, I think the approach will be to try to adapt the alternator by probably grinding down the boss some. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay@asajay.com> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2025 12:44 PM To: jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Alternator mis-alignment Is it the correct alternator, is it the correct pulley on the water pump? I ask because in the photo it’s hard to tell but the alternator adjusting bracket looks to be in-line properly. It might not be. Compare all pulleys and see which ones appear to be out of line. If the alternator and crank pulley line up, then the one on the water pump is wrong. In fact it could be a wrong water pump with a shorter nose. Examine it a little more and let us know what you find. Asa Jay Sent via radio waves pump list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
Hi Jim? Several folks here know about my opinion of PIM. Let me just say I’m not surprised your mechanic has found something shody. The second photo isn’t too clear but it does almost look like a nut on the back of the alternator where the adjuster attaches, like what Mike or Julian postulated. This may be because the mounting boss as they also suggest, is too long and the PIM solution was probably to insert a nut between the alternator and adjusting bracket. FWIW, that doesn’t look like an “upgraded” alternator to me either. The last Pantera vendor I would ever consider working on a Pantera, is PIM. Strike that, I’d buy some of their aftermarket pieces but would -never- have them work on a Pantera. This is my opinion and does not necessarily reflect the opinions and experience of others. Asa Jay Sent via radio waves
On Jan 5, 2025, at 10:42, jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com wrote:
Asa,
Thanks for the insight and questions.
I do not know if what is there is 'correct' or not. When I had PIM do the restoration I ordered their alternator upgrade. I just took it on faith they new how to do that work since they had the engine rebuilt/upgraded. I guess I was wrong. This is not the first discovery I have made of what appears to be improper work.
The car is in its capsule for the winter so it will be May or later before this can be addressed.
The mechanic that discovered the situation did not indicate a misalignment between water pump and crank - just the alternator to water pump issue.
He asked me if there were after market offset brackets for the newer style alternators and if not suggested what Mike Drew suggested - that is machining off some of the boss of the alternator.
I have attached another picture that I think more clearly shows the pulleys and it appears it is the Alternator out of whack.
So, I think the approach will be to try to adapt the alternator by probably grinding down the boss some.
Jim
-----Original Message----- From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay@asajay.com> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2025 12:44 PM To: jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Alternator mis-alignment
Is it the correct alternator, is it the correct pulley on the water pump? I ask because in the photo it’s hard to tell but the alternator adjusting bracket looks to be in-line properly. It might not be.
Compare all pulleys and see which ones appear to be out of line. If the alternator and crank pulley line up, then the one on the water pump is wrong. In fact it could be a wrong water pump with a shorter nose.
Examine it a little more and let us know what you find.
Asa Jay Sent via radio waves
On Jan 5, 2025, at 09:37, jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com wrote:
All,
This past year for the first time since restoration, the bulkhead cover was off exposing the front of the engine.
A mis-alignment of the alternator to the drive pulley on the water pump was noted.
Is there another offset bracket that should have been used with the upgraded alternator or is there another solution anyone has for getting things back aligned?
Thanks,
Jim Kosloskey 1974 Yellow L #6949 <Altenator mis-aligned.jpg> _______________________________________________
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The pic is at an angle. It's hard to see how badly it is misaligned. It's easy to fix, though. -- On 1/6/25, 12:02 AM, "Asa Jay Laughton via DeTomaso" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> wrote: Hi Jim? Several folks here know about my opinion of PIM. Let me just say I’m not surprised your mechanic has found something shody. The second photo isn’t too clear but it does almost look like a nut on the back of the alternator where the adjuster attaches, like what Mike or Julian postulated. This may be because the mounting boss as they also suggest, is too long and the PIM solution was probably to insert a nut between the alternator and adjusting bracket. FWIW, that doesn’t look like an “upgraded” alternator to me either. The last Pantera vendor I would ever consider working on a Pantera, is PIM. Strike that, I’d buy some of their aftermarket pieces but would -never- have them work on a Pantera. This is my opinion and does not necessarily reflect the opinions and experience of others. Asa Jay Sent via radio waves
On Jan 5, 2025, at 10:42, jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com <mailto:jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com> wrote:
Asa,
Thanks for the insight and questions.
I do not know if what is there is 'correct' or not. When I had PIM do the restoration I ordered their alternator upgrade. I just took it on faith they new how to do that work since they had the engine rebuilt/upgraded. I guess I was wrong. This is not the first discovery I have made of what appears to be improper work.
The car is in its capsule for the winter so it will be May or later before this can be addressed.
The mechanic that discovered the situation did not indicate a misalignment between water pump and crank - just the alternator to water pump issue.
He asked me if there were after market offset brackets for the newer style alternators and if not suggested what Mike Drew suggested - that is machining off some of the boss of the alternator.
I have attached another picture that I think more clearly shows the pulleys and it appears it is the Alternator out of whack.
So, I think the approach will be to try to adapt the alternator by probably grinding down the boss some.
Jim
-----Original Message----- From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay@asajay.com <mailto:asajay@asajay.com>> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2025 12:44 PM To: jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com <mailto:jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com> Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Alternator mis-alignment
Is it the correct alternator, is it the correct pulley on the water pump? I ask because in the photo it’s hard to tell but the alternator adjusting bracket looks to be in-line properly. It might not be.
Compare all pulleys and see which ones appear to be out of line. If the alternator and crank pulley line up, then the one on the water pump is wrong. In fact it could be a wrong water pump with a shorter nose.
Examine it a little more and let us know what you find.
Asa Jay Sent via radio waves
On Jan 5, 2025, at 09:37, jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com <mailto:jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com> wrote:
All,
This past year for the first time since restoration, the bulkhead cover was off exposing the front of the engine.
A mis-alignment of the alternator to the drive pulley on the water pump was noted.
Is there another offset bracket that should have been used with the upgraded alternator or is there another solution anyone has for getting things back aligned?
Thanks,
Jim Kosloskey 1974 Yellow L #6949 <Altenator mis-aligned.jpg> _______________________________________________
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Den 2025-01-06 kl. 15:34, skrev Will Kooiman:
The pic is at an angle. It's hard to see how badly it is misaligned.
It's easy to fix, though.
I got one of the modern 130A 3G alternators a few years back and I had to chop about 10mm off of the lower mount to make the belt line up. I'm not sure that my mount is the same as on early cars as it had an Australian 351C with a Bosch alternator originally. Cheers, Thomas
Funny story, now that we're talking pulleys, etc.... I bought the Kirk Evans bulkhead reduction kit years ago. It went on perfectly. Later, I switched to a 351W block, which meant I had to buy new pulleys. The 351C pulleys didn't fit. Plus, I had to modify some of the mounts. No biggie, but I couldn't find a V-belt for the crank-to-water pump that would fit. The Kirk Evans kit doesn't use an idler so the V-belt needs to be a specific size. So, I got the Quella idler. It worked perfectly, but it hit the Kirk Evans bulkhead. So, I modified that. All was fine for quite a while. But I later decided to put normal engine mounts on the car. I had cut mine 1/2" lower, not so much for handling improvement, but for more clearance for the distributor and carburetor. Since then, I had been chasing a weird noise that sounded like a bearing going out. It was coming from the front of the engine. I suspect the idler pulley. It turned out to be the idler rubbing the bulkhead, which fit fine with the engine lowered, but rubbed once I raised the engine where it belongs. Easy fix this time - I found a belt that fit properly, and I removed the idler. -- On 1/6/25, 9:52 AM, "Thomas Tornblom" <thomas@hax.se <mailto:thomas@hax.se>> wrote: Den 2025-01-06 kl. 15:34, skrev Will Kooiman:
The pic is at an angle. It's hard to see how badly it is misaligned.
It's easy to fix, though.
I got one of the modern 130A 3G alternators a few years back and I had to chop about 10mm off of the lower mount to make the belt line up. I'm not sure that my mount is the same as on early cars as it had an Australian 351C with a Bosch alternator originally. Cheers, Thomas _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list -- detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> To unsubscribe send an email to detomaso-leave@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso-leave@server.detomasolist.com> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
Yeah, I got rid of the idler more than 20 years ago.
6 jan. 2025 kl. 16:09 skrev Will Kooiman <will.kooiman@gmail.com>:
Funny story, now that we're talking pulleys, etc....
I bought the Kirk Evans bulkhead reduction kit years ago. It went on perfectly.
Later, I switched to a 351W block, which meant I had to buy new pulleys. The 351C pulleys didn't fit. Plus, I had to modify some of the mounts. No biggie, but I couldn't find a V-belt for the crank-to-water pump that would fit. The Kirk Evans kit doesn't use an idler so the V-belt needs to be a specific size. So, I got the Quella idler. It worked perfectly, but it hit the Kirk Evans bulkhead. So, I modified that.
All was fine for quite a while. But I later decided to put normal engine mounts on the car. I had cut mine 1/2" lower, not so much for handling improvement, but for more clearance for the distributor and carburetor.
Since then, I had been chasing a weird noise that sounded like a bearing going out. It was coming from the front of the engine. I suspect the idler pulley. It turned out to be the idler rubbing the bulkhead, which fit fine with the engine lowered, but rubbed once I raised the engine where it belongs.
Easy fix this time - I found a belt that fit properly, and I removed the idler.
--
On 1/6/25, 9:52 AM, "Thomas Tornblom" <thomas@hax.se <mailto:thomas@hax.se>> wrote:
Den 2025-01-06 kl. 15:34, skrev Will Kooiman: The pic is at an angle. It's hard to see how badly it is misaligned.
It's easy to fix, though.
I got one of the modern 130A 3G alternators a few years back and I had to chop about 10mm off of the lower mount to make the belt line up. I'm not sure that my mount is the same as on early cars as it had an Australian 351C with a Bosch alternator originally.
Cheers, Thomas
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