Pantera that was delivered to Ford Executive
Can anyone elaborate on the Pantera that was delivered to the Ford Executive? Supposedly his kids took the car out for a joy ride and crashed it? Is this just folklore or did it really happen? Do you know the month / year, what color the car was, any details, who the Executive was, etc? When Ford ordered a car that was a staff pool vehicle and not for retail sales, what did they generally do with them? Auto shows, advertising, etc? Would the Ford Executives car have been ordered that way from the factory? As a staff vehicle? Thanks, Ed
That was the story so colorfully told by our guest speaker at the 2014 Fun Rally in San Diego. His name is Tim Foraker. As far as I know, it was true. Mike On Sep 7, 2016 4:54 AM, "Ed Mendez" <edducati@mac.com> wrote:
Can anyone elaborate on the Pantera that was delivered to the Ford Executive? Supposedly his kids took the car out for a joy ride and crashed it?
Is this just folklore or did it really happen? Do you know the month / year, what color the car was, any details, who the Executive was, etc?
When Ford ordered a car that was a staff pool vehicle and not for retail sales, what did they generally do with them? Auto shows, advertising, etc?
Would the Ford Executives car have been ordered that way from the factory? As a staff vehicle?
Thanks, Ed
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That was the story so colorfully told by our guest speaker at the 2014 Fun Rally in San Diego.A His name is Tim Foraker. As far as I know, it was true. Mike On Sep 7, 2016 4:54 AM, "Ed Mendez" <[1]edducati@mac.com> wrote: Can anyone elaborate on the Pantera that was delivered to the Ford Executive? Supposedly his kids took the car out for a joy ride and crashed it? Is this just folklore or did it really happen? Do you know the month / year, what color the car was, any details, who the Executive was, etc? When Ford ordered a car that was a staff pool vehicle and not for retail sales, what did they generally do with them? Auto shows, advertising, etc? Would the Ford Executives car have been ordered that way from the factory? As a staff vehicle? Thanks, Ed _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [2]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [3]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. mailto:edducati@mac.com 2. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 3. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
Ed, Lots of ford execs were able to get company cars. Some asked for trucks, or lincolns, and some asked for Panteras. Asa Jay's Pantera was originally a Ford company car as I recall. I think it actually belonged to a guy who worked for some Ford electronics subsidiary or something like that? They would get the car for a year and then turn it in to be sold. Mike Sent from my iPhone On Sep 7, 2016, at 6:54, Ed Mendez <edducati@mac.com> wrote:
Can anyone elaborate on the Pantera that was delivered to the Ford Executive? Supposedly his kids took the car out for a joy ride and crashed it?
Is this just folklore or did it really happen? Do you know the month / year, what color the car was, any details, who the Executive was, etc?
When Ford ordered a car that was a staff pool vehicle and not for retail sales, what did they generally do with them? Auto shows, advertising, etc?
Would the Ford Executives car have been ordered that way from the factory? As a staff vehicle?
Thanks, Ed
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Good morning, Yes, THPNNP05533 was originally a Ford corporate car: http://asajay.com/pantera/asascat/1st_reg.jpg Owned by Ford Motor Company Registered to Philco Ford Corporation Sold to Central Accounting Services in Dearborn Shipped to Philco Ford Corporation in Palo Alto http://asajay.com/pantera/asascat/sticker.jpg After two years later on 5/20/75, the company sold it to an employee, Gene Hickcox, who had been driving it before as a company car. http://asajay.com/pantera/asascat/contract.jpg Gene owned it until his death, whereupon it became part of his estate given to the University of Southern California. The University typically ends up storing donated vehicles in perpetuity; however, someone managed to get the executor to pull some strings in order to sell it instead of letting it languish in a warehouse. I managed to purchase it and become the second owner. I have no other details on Mr. Hickcox. It might be kind of cool to know more about him. Asa Jay Quoting Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>:
Ed,
Lots of ford execs were able to get company cars. Some asked for trucks, or lincolns, and some asked for Panteras.
Asa Jay's Pantera was originally a Ford company car as I recall. I think it actually belonged to a guy who worked for some Ford electronics subsidiary or something like that? They would get the car for a year and then turn it in to be sold.
Mike
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On Sep 7, 2016, at 6:54, Ed Mendez <edducati@mac.com> wrote:
Can anyone elaborate on the Pantera that was delivered to the Ford Executive? Supposedly his kids took the car out for a joy ride and crashed it?
Is this just folklore or did it really happen? Do you know the month / year, what color the car was, any details, who the Executive was, etc?
When Ford ordered a car that was a staff pool vehicle and not for retail sales, what did they generally do with them? Auto shows, advertising, etc?
Would the Ford Executives car have been ordered that way from the factory? As a staff vehicle?
Thanks, Ed
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Neat documentation. I noticed that the Make on the bill of sale says Mercury. -----Original Message----- From: Asa Jay Laughton <asajay@asajay.com> To: detomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Wed, Sep 7, 2016 9:58 am Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera that was delivered to Ford Executive Good morning, Yes, THPNNP05533 was originally a Ford corporate car: http://asajay.com/pantera/asascat/1st_reg.jpg Owned by Ford Motor Company Registered to Philco Ford Corporation Sold to Central Accounting Services in Dearborn Shipped to Philco Ford Corporation in Palo Alto http://asajay.com/pantera/asascat/sticker.jpg After two years later on 5/20/75, the company sold it to an employee, Gene Hickcox, who had been driving it before as a company car. http://asajay.com/pantera/asascat/contract.jpg Gene owned it until his death, whereupon it became part of his estate given to the University of Southern California. The University typically ends up storing donated vehicles in perpetuity; however, someone managed to get the executor to pull some strings in order to sell it instead of letting it languish in a warehouse. I managed to purchase it and become the second owner. I have no other details on Mr. Hickcox. It might be kind of cool to know more about him. Asa Jay Quoting Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>:
Ed,
Lots of ford execs were able to get company cars. Some asked for trucks, or lincolns, and some asked for Panteras.
Asa Jay's Pantera was originally a Ford company car as I recall. I think it actually belonged to a guy who worked for some Ford electronics subsidiary or something like that? They would get the car for a year and then turn it in to be sold.
Mike
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On Sep 7, 2016, at 6:54, Ed Mendez <edducati@mac.com> wrote:
Can anyone elaborate on the Pantera that was delivered to the Ford Executive? Supposedly his kids took the car out for a joy ride and crashed it?
Is this just folklore or did it really happen? Do you know the month / year, what color the car was, any details, who the Executive was, etc?
When Ford ordered a car that was a staff pool vehicle and not for retail sales, what did they generally do with them? Auto shows, advertising, etc?
Would the Ford Executives car have been ordered that way from the factory? As a staff vehicle?
Thanks, Ed
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Ed,
Lots of ford execs were able to get company cars. Some asked for trucks, or lincolns, and some asked for Panteras.
Asa Jay's Pantera was originally a Ford company car as I recall. I think it actually belonged to a guy who worked for some Ford electronics subsidiary or something like that? They would get the car for a year and then turn it in to be sold.
Mike
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On Sep 7, 2016, at 6:54, Ed Mendez <[5]edducati@mac.com> wrote:
Can anyone elaborate on the Pantera that was delivered to the Ford Executive? Supposedly his kids took the car out for a joy ride and crashed it?
Is this just folklore or did it really happen? Do you know the month / year, what color the car was, any details, who the Executive was, etc?
When Ford ordered a car that was a staff pool vehicle and not for retail sales, what did they generally do with them? Auto shows, advertising, etc?
Would the Ford Executives car have been ordered that way from the factory? As a staff vehicle?
Thanks, Ed
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Thanks, I was curious because the Marti report on my car 3072 says it was first delivered to Ford Motor Co. Dearborn as a public relations staff, type: pool vehicle. Where my other Pantera 2152 says delivered to Peyton Lincoln Mercury in Long Beach, type: retail. Here is the Marti. Ed Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus
On Sep 8, 2016, at 2:58 AM, Asa Jay Laughton <asajay@asajay.com> wrote:
Good morning, Yes, THPNNP05533 was originally a Ford corporate car: http://asajay.com/pantera/asascat/1st_reg.jpg
Owned by Ford Motor Company Registered to Philco Ford Corporation
Sold to Central Accounting Services in Dearborn Shipped to Philco Ford Corporation in Palo Alto http://asajay.com/pantera/asascat/sticker.jpg
After two years later on 5/20/75, the company sold it to an employee, Gene Hickcox, who had been driving it before as a company car.
http://asajay.com/pantera/asascat/contract.jpg
Gene owned it until his death, whereupon it became part of his estate given to the University of Southern California. The University typically ends up storing donated vehicles in perpetuity; however, someone managed to get the executor to pull some strings in order to sell it instead of letting it languish in a warehouse.
I managed to purchase it and become the second owner.
I have no other details on Mr. Hickcox. It might be kind of cool to know more about him. Asa Jay
Quoting Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>:
Ed,
Lots of ford execs were able to get company cars. Some asked for trucks, or lincolns, and some asked for Panteras.
Asa Jay's Pantera was originally a Ford company car as I recall. I think it actually belonged to a guy who worked for some Ford electronics subsidiary or something like that? They would get the car for a year and then turn it in to be sold.
Mike
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 7, 2016, at 6:54, Ed Mendez <edducati@mac.com> wrote:
Can anyone elaborate on the Pantera that was delivered to the Ford Executive? Supposedly his kids took the car out for a joy ride and crashed it?
Is this just folklore or did it really happen? Do you know the month / year, what color the car was, any details, who the Executive was, etc?
When Ford ordered a car that was a staff pool vehicle and not for retail sales, what did they generally do with them? Auto shows, advertising, etc?
Would the Ford Executives car have been ordered that way from the factory? As a staff vehicle?
Thanks, Ed
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Thanks, I was curious because the Marti report on my car 3072 says it was first delivered to Ford Motor Co. Dearborn as a public relations staff, type: pool vehicle. Where my other Pantera 2152 says delivered to Peyton Lincoln Mercury in Long Beach, type: retail. Here is the Marti. Ed image1.JPG Sent from my iPhone 6 Plus On Sep 8, 2016, at 2:58 AM, Asa Jay Laughton <[1]asajay@asajay.com> wrote: Good morning, Yes, THPNNP05533 was originally a Ford corporate car: [2]http://asajay.com/pantera/asascat/1st_reg.jpg Owned by Ford Motor Company Registered to Philco Ford Corporation Sold to Central Accounting Services in Dearborn Shipped to Philco Ford Corporation in Palo Alto [3]http://asajay.com/pantera/asascat/sticker.jpg After two years later on 5/20/75, the company sold it to an employee, Gene Hickcox, who had been driving it before as a company car. [4]http://asajay.com/pantera/asascat/contract.jpg Gene owned it until his death, whereupon it became part of his estate given to the University of Southern California. The University typically ends up storing donated vehicles in perpetuity; however, someone managed to get the executor to pull some strings in order to sell it instead of letting it languish in a warehouse. I managed to purchase it and become the second owner. I have no other details on Mr. Hickcox. It might be kind of cool to know more about him. Asa Jay Quoting Mike Drew via DeTomaso <[5]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>: Ed, Lots of ford execs were able to get company cars. Some asked for trucks, or lincolns, and some asked for Panteras. Asa Jay's Pantera was originally a Ford company car as I recall. I think it actually belonged to a guy who worked for some Ford electronics subsidiary or something like that? They would get the car for a year and then turn it in to be sold. Mike Sent from my iPhone On Sep 7, 2016, at 6:54, Ed Mendez <[6]edducati@mac.com> wrote: Can anyone elaborate on the Pantera that was delivered to the Ford Executive? Supposedly his kids took the car out for a joy ride and crashed it? Is this just folklore or did it really happen? Do you know the month / year, what color the car was, any details, who the Executive was, etc? When Ford ordered a car that was a staff pool vehicle and not for retail sales, what did they generally do with them? Auto shows, advertising, etc? Would the Ford Executives car have been ordered that way from the factory? As a staff vehicle? Thanks, Ed _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [7]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [8]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. 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