Mike, I’m getting the email strings, but as you explained, when looking for the compilation of current and previous strings, I get the “page not found” message. Hopefully that archive will one day be restored. Very valuable to parse previous conversations, and search for things… Dennis Valdez Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 3, 2024, at 8:42 PM, Dennis Valdez <valdezs1@yahoo.com> wrote:
Mike, I’m getting the email strings, but as you explained, when looking for the compilation of current and previous strings, I get the “page not found” message.
Hopefully that archive will one day be restored. Very valuable to parse previous conversations, and search for things…
Dennis Valdez Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 3, 2024, at 5:27 PM, Mike Drew <mikeldrew@aol.com> wrote:
David,
I haven’t seen any other responses to your query.
The way this list is structured, the intention is for messages to be received and then rebroadcast via email in real time to all subscribers. An alternate function is to get the messages in a single daily digest.
As a very secondary resource, all messages are stored in a searchable archive that is accessed via a web interface. It was never the intention that this archive would be the primary means that the information was accessed.
When the whole system needed to be migrated to a new platform, the migration was not nearly as smooth as one would have hoped. It took awhile, but the primary function of real-time messaging was finally restored a few weeks ago. The secondary feature of the archive of those messages was apparently fraught with peril, as bad actors attempted to hack the new system. It is still not functional as far as I know.
So, if somebody was using the system as intended, normal operation has been restored. If not, those people are left in the dark (I think).
A good question is, how does one change one’s delivery preferences? I believe the link at the bottom of forum messages that brings you to the archive also takes you to the control panel where such selections are made. Thus it’s entirely possible that those people who were receiving real time email messages prior to the transition are continuing to do so, while those that were not, are currently prevented from being able to make that selection.
I’m just a user of the system and have no in-depth knowledge at all. Kurt, the long-suffering and largely invisible benefactor who takes care of this incredible resource, may have more or better answers to share?
Mike
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On Dec 1, 2024, at 10:50, DAVID D GOODWIN via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
what ever happened to the list of information and questions on the server list.
David Goodwin
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From what I understood, Kurt is having to go through the archives one by one and upload any emails with attachments separately. I’m sure that’s a laborious task over years of archives. Julian
On Dec 4, 2024, at 19:27, Dennis Valdez via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
Mike, I’m getting the email strings, but as you explained, when looking for the compilation of current and previous strings, I get the “page not found” message.
Hopefully that archive will one day be restored. Very valuable to parse previous conversations, and search for things… Dennis Valdez Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 3, 2024, at 8:42 PM, Dennis Valdez <valdezs1@yahoo.com> wrote:
Mike, I’m getting the email strings, but as you explained, when looking for the compilation of current and previous strings, I get the “page not found” message.
Hopefully that archive will one day be restored. Very valuable to parse previous conversations, and search for things…
Dennis Valdez Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 3, 2024, at 5:27 PM, Mike Drew <mikeldrew@aol.com> wrote:
David,
I haven’t seen any other responses to your query.
The way this list is structured, the intention is for messages to be received and then rebroadcast via email in real time to all subscribers. An alternate function is to get the messages in a single daily digest.
As a very secondary resource, all messages are stored in a searchable archive that is accessed via a web interface. It was never the intention that this archive would be the primary means that the information was accessed.
When the whole system needed to be migrated to a new platform, the migration was not nearly as smooth as one would have hoped. It took awhile, but the primary function of real-time messaging was finally restored a few weeks ago. The secondary feature of the archive of those messages was apparently fraught with peril, as bad actors attempted to hack the new system. It is still not functional as far as I know.
So, if somebody was using the system as intended, normal operation has been restored. If not, those people are left in the dark (I think).
A good question is, how does one change one’s delivery preferences? I believe the link at the bottom of forum messages that brings you to the archive also takes you to the control panel where such selections are made. Thus it’s entirely possible that those people who were receiving real time email messages prior to the transition are continuing to do so, while those that were not, are currently prevented from being able to make that selection.
I’m just a user of the system and have no in-depth knowledge at all. Kurt, the long-suffering and largely invisible benefactor who takes care of this incredible resource, may have more or better answers to share?
Mike
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 1, 2024, at 10:50, DAVID D GOODWIN via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
what ever happened to the list of information and questions on the server list.
David Goodwin
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I offered to help. "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes Princeton Networks Corporation President Cell: (818) 653-8213 Deep Space Mission Systems (818) 653-8213 terry.himes@pncnet.com JPL (RED) Deep Space Exploration – Mission Operations Mars 2020 (Perseverance) Rover Relay Mars 2020 (Ingenuity) Helicopter Relay Psyche Orbiter Europa Lander Science Support Team Odyssey Sequence Team TGO Sequence Lead MEX Sequence Lead Spitzer Space Telescope Data Team Dawn Spacecraft Team On 12/4/24, 4:46 PM, "Julian Kift" <julian_kift@hotmail.com <mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com>> wrote: From what I understood, Kurt is having to go through the archives one by one and upload any emails with attachments separately. I’m sure that’s a laborious task over years of archives. Julian
On Dec 4, 2024, at 19:27, Dennis Valdez via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:
Mike, I’m getting the email strings, but as you explained, when looking for the compilation of current and previous strings, I get the “page not found” message.
Hopefully that archive will one day be restored. Very valuable to parse previous conversations, and search for things…
Dennis Valdez
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 3, 2024, at 8:42 PM, Dennis Valdez <valdezs1@yahoo.com <mailto:valdezs1@yahoo.com>> wrote:
Mike, I’m getting the email strings, but as you explained, when looking for the compilation of current and previous strings, I get the “page not found” message.
Hopefully that archive will one day be restored. Very valuable to parse previous conversations, and search for things…
Dennis Valdez
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 3, 2024, at 5:27 PM, Mike Drew <mikeldrew@aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew@aol.com>> wrote:
David,
I haven’t seen any other responses to your query.
The way this list is structured, the intention is for messages to be received and then rebroadcast via email in real time to all subscribers. An alternate function is to get the messages in a single daily digest.
As a very secondary resource, all messages are stored in a searchable archive that is accessed via a web interface. It was never the intention that this archive would be the primary means that the information was accessed.
When the whole system needed to be migrated to a new platform, the migration was not nearly as smooth as one would have hoped. It took awhile, but the primary function of real-time messaging was finally restored a few weeks ago. The secondary feature of the archive of those messages was apparently fraught with peril, as bad actors attempted to hack the new system. It is still not functional as far as I know.
So, if somebody was using the system as intended, normal operation has been restored. If not, those people are left in the dark (I think).
A good question is, how does one change one’s delivery preferences? I believe the link at the bottom of forum messages that brings you to the archive also takes you to the control panel where such selections are made. Thus it’s entirely possible that those people who were receiving real time email messages prior to the transition are continuing to do so, while those that were not, are currently prevented from being able to make that selection.
I’m just a user of the system and have no in-depth knowledge at all. Kurt, the long-suffering and largely invisible benefactor who takes care of this incredible resource, may have more or better answers to share?
Mike
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 1, 2024, at 10:50, DAVID D GOODWIN via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:
what ever happened to the list of information and questions on the
server list.
David Goodwin
#4858
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On Dec 4, 2024, at 19:27, Dennis Valdez via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:
Mike, I’m getting the email strings, but as you explained, when looking for the compilation of current and previous strings, I get the “page not found” message.
Hopefully that archive will one day be restored. Very valuable to
parse previous conversations, and search for things…
Dennis Valdez
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 3, 2024, at 8:42 PM, Dennis Valdez <valdezs1@yahoo.com <mailto:valdezs1@yahoo.com>> wrote:
Mike, I’m getting the email strings, but as you explained, when looking for the compilation of current and previous strings, I get the “page not found” message.
Hopefully that archive will one day be restored. Very valuable to parse previous conversations, and search for things…
Dennis Valdez
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 3, 2024, at 5:27 PM, Mike Drew <mikeldrew@aol.com <mailto:mikeldrew@aol.com>> wrote:
David,
I haven’t seen any other responses to your query.
The way this list is structured, the intention is for messages to be received and then rebroadcast via email in real time to all subscribers. An alternate function is to get the messages in a single daily digest.
As a very secondary resource, all messages are stored in a searchable archive that is accessed via a web interface. It was never the intention that this archive would be the primary means that the information was accessed.
When the whole system needed to be migrated to a new platform, the migration was not nearly as smooth as one would have hoped. It took awhile, but the primary function of real-time messaging was finally restored a few weeks ago. The secondary feature of the archive of those messages was apparently fraught with peril, as bad actors attempted to hack the new system. It is still not functional as far as I know.
So, if somebody was using the system as intended, normal operation has been restored. If not, those people are left in the dark (I think).
A good question is, how does one change one’s delivery preferences? I believe the link at the bottom of forum messages that brings you to the archive also takes you to the control panel where such selections are made. Thus it’s entirely possible that those people who were receiving real time email messages prior to the transition are continuing to do so, while those that were not, are currently prevented from being able to make that selection.
I’m just a user of the system and have no in-depth knowledge at all. Kurt, the long-suffering and largely invisible benefactor who takes care of this incredible resource, may have more or better answers to share?
Mike
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 1, 2024, at 10:50, DAVID D GOODWIN via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:
what ever happened to the list of information and questions on the
server list.
David Goodwin
#4858
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