Tonight, Monday Sept 12th....a customized Pantera on Fast & Loud on the Discovery Channel @ 9:00PST
It shows as 8:00pm - 9:00pm on my guide -- Directv, channel 278 (DSCHD) mike -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of marshall smith Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 9:53 AM To: De Tomaso List <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Tonight, Monday Sept 12th....a customized Pantera on Fast & Loud on the Discovery Channel @ 9:00PST _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
Was this car known? I missed the Owners name. Joe/nc -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Mike Becker Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 22:48 PM To: 'marshall smith'; 'De Tomaso List' Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud It shows as 8:00pm - 9:00pm on my guide -- Directv, channel 278 (DSCHD) mike -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of marshall smith Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 9:53 AM To: De Tomaso List <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Tonight, Monday Sept 12th....a customized Pantera on Fast & Loud on the Discovery Channel @ 9:00PST _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
San Diego owner per the show. No name mentioned but owner (husband, deceased) had it a long time according to seller (his widow). If the show is to be believed the lady sold it to Richard for $28,500 I think it was. Pretty cheeep!
Mark
12, 2016, at 11:11 PM, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf@embarqmail.com> wrote:
Was this car known? I missed the Owners name. Joe/nc
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It shows as 8:00pm - 9:00pm on my guide -- Directv, channel 278 (DSCHD) mike
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San Diego owner per the show. No name mentioned but owner (husband, deceased) had it a long time according to seller (his widow). If the show is to be believed the lady sold it to Richard for $28,500 I think it was. Pretty cheeep! Mark 12, 2016, at 11:11 PM, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <[1]byrdjf@embarqmail.com> wrote: Was this car known? I missed the Owners name. Joe/nc -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[2]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Mike Becker Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 22:48 PM To: 'marshall smith'; 'De Tomaso List' Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud It shows as 8:00pm - 9:00pm on my guide -- Directv, channel 278 (DSCHD) mike -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[3]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of marshall smith Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 9:53 AM To: De Tomaso List <[4]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Tonight, Monday Sept 12th....a customized Pantera on Fast & Loud on the Discovery Channel @ 9:00PST _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [5]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [6]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. References 1. mailto:byrdjf@embarqmail.com 2. mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 3. mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 4. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 5. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com 6. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
Great show, thank you Marshall! After Robert spent 3 days in the hospital, I set it up for him to make him happy but I'm glued on the tv myself! Sent from Effie's iPad
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San Diego owner per the show. No name mentioned but owner (husband, deceased) had it a long time according to seller (his widow). If the show is to be believed the lady sold it to Richard for $28,500 I think it was. Pretty cheeep! Mark
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Was this car known? I missed the Owners name. Joe/nc -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[2]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Mike Becker Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 22:48 PM To: 'marshall smith'; 'De Tomaso List' Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud It shows as 8:00pm - 9:00pm on my guide -- Directv, channel 278 (DSCHD) mike -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[3]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of marshall smith Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 9:53 AM To: De Tomaso List <[4]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Tonight, Monday Sept 12th....a customized Pantera on Fast & Loud on the Discovery Channel @ 9:00PST _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [5]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [6]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
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Exactly what Robert said.... Sent from Effie's iPad
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Watching the show now as they get ready to totally wreck yet another fine Pantera. There is a special corner in hell waiting for these morons....grrrr......
Mike
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If that got you rilled, DON"T watch the preview of the next weeks show. When they show their custom sheet metal work Joe -----Original Message----- From: Mike Drew [mailto:MikeLDrew@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 0:28 AM To: Mark H Gmail Cc: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.; Pantera Mail List Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Watching the show now as they get ready to totally wreck yet another fine Pantera. There is a special corner in hell waiting for these morons....grrrr...... Mike Sent from my iPad
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I wondered when this was actually filmed? Richard was talking $30-35K being a high for Pantera's and I remember list discussion on Sam Foose's Dia Kosa being for sale in FL at least a couple years back. So I looked up Barret Jackson east coast and their inaugural east coast auction was June 2016, so I guess it was filmed fairly recent, that said I'm surprised at the $28,500 price paid. Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Mark H Gmail <sennamick@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 9:03 PM To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. Cc: Pantera Mail List Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
San Diego owner per the show. No name mentioned but owner (husband, deceased) had it a long time according to seller (his widow). If the show is to be believed the lady sold it to Richard for $28,500 I think it was. Pretty cheeep!
Mark
12, 2016, at 11:11 PM, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf@embarqmail.com> wrote:
Was this car known? I missed the Owners name. Joe/nc
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Mike Becker Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 22:48 PM To: 'marshall smith'; 'De Tomaso List' Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
It shows as 8:00pm - 9:00pm on my guide -- Directv, channel 278 (DSCHD) mike
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San Diego owner per the show. No name mentioned but owner (husband, deceased) had it a long time according to seller (his widow). If the show is to be believed the lady sold it to Richard for $28,500 I think it was. Pretty cheeep!
Mark 12, 2016, at 11:11 PM, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf@embarqmail.com> wrote:
Was this car known? I missed the Owners name. Joe/nc
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[1]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Mike Becker Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 22:48 PM To: 'marshall smith'; 'De Tomaso List' Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
It shows as 8:00pm - 9:00pm on my guide -- Directv, channel 278 (DSCHD) mike
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I wondered when this was actually filmed? Richard was talking $30-35K being a high for Pantera's and I remember list discussion on Sam Foose's Dia Kosa being for sale in FL at least a couple years back. So I looked up Barret Jackson east coast and their inaugural east coast auction was June 2016, so I guess it was filmed fairly recent, that said I'm surprised at the $28,500 price paid. Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Mark H Gmail <sennamick@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 9:03 PM To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. Cc: Pantera Mail List Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud the
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San Diego owner per the show. No name mentioned but owner (husband, deceased) had it a long time according to seller (his widow). If the show is to be believed the lady sold it to Richard for $28,500 I think it was. Pretty cheeep!
Mark 12, 2016, at 11:11 PM, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf@embarqmail.com> wrote:
Was this car known? I missed the Owners name. Joe/nc
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[1]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Mike Becker Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 22:48 PM To: 'marshall smith'; 'De Tomaso List' Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
It shows as 8:00pm - 9:00pm on my guide -- Directv, channel 278 (DSCHD) mike
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[2]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of marshall smith Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 9:53 AM To: De Tomaso List <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
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Julian, remember our friend Simon Velsmin holland was in negotiations to buy the Foose Pantera (a direct copy of the Alfa Romeo Carabo show car) when it got snatched out from under him by Richard Rawlings. That was last year sometime. He shamellely stole that white Pantera from the widow in San Diego. It was worth double what he paid her for it. Too bad she wasn't connected in any way with the San Diego club; they would have looked out former and protected her from getting ripped off. Sigh..... Mike Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On Monday, September 12, 2016, Julian Kift <julian_kift@hotmail.com> wrote: I wondered when this was actually filmed? Richard was talking $30-35K being a high for Pantera's and I remember list discussion on Sam Foose's Dia Kosa being for sale in FL at least a couple years back. So I looked up Barret Jackson east coast and their inaugural east coast auction was June 2016, so I guess it was filmed fairly recent, that said I'm surprised at the $28,500 price paid. Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Mark H Gmail <sennamick@gmail.com> Sent: M onday, September 12, 2016 9:03 PM To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. Cc: Pantera Mail List Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud the
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Yeah - nice guys. They take the lady’s car down the street and do burn-outs in it before buying it. A…holes!! I guess it’s “no-sale — AFTER - they break it.
On Sep 12, 2016, at 10:41 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
Julian, remember our friend Simon Velsmin holland was in negotiations to buy the Foose Pantera (a direct copy of the Alfa Romeo Carabo show car) when it got snatched out from under him by Richard Rawlings. That was last year sometime.
He shamellely stole that white Pantera from the widow in San Diego. It was worth double what he paid her for it. Too bad she wasn't connected in any way with the San Diego club; they would have looked out former and protected her from getting ripped off.
Sigh.....
Mike
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I wondered when this was actually filmed? Richard was talking $30-35K being a high for Pantera's and I remember list discussion on Sam Foose's Dia Kosa being for sale in FL at least a couple years back. So I looked up Barret Jackson east coast and their inaugural east coast auction was June 2016, so I guess it was filmed fairly recent, that said I'm surprised at the $28,500 price paid.
Julian __________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Mark H Gmail <sennamick@gmail.com> Sent: M onday, September 12, 2016 9:03 PM To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. Cc: Pantera Mail List Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
San Diego owner per the show. No name mentioned but owner (husband, deceased) had it a long time according to seller (his widow). If the show is to be believed the lady sold it to Richard for $28,500 I think it was. Pretty cheeep!
Mark 12, 2016, at 11:11 PM, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf@embarqmail.com> wrote:
Was this car known? I missed the Owners name. Joe/nc
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[1]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Mike Becker Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 22:48 PM To: 'marshall smith'; 'De Tomaso List' Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
It shows as 8:00pm - 9:00pm on my guide -- Directv, channel 278 (DSCHD) mike
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OMG PEOPLE!!!! It's a TV show! Do you believe everything you see on TV, on a REALITY SHOW! A lot of what you see is produced, ie: They planned to do that seen for the shock value. To set the record straight, the build was started MARCH 2016. I supplied many parts to the build during that timeframe. I was really hoping that this group would act like adults and not-bash the hell out of the car, like most of you did to the Ring Brothers car. We get it, if there are many changes that are out of the ordinary, you aren't going to like it. But that is what these shows do! Get over it... -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Jack Donahue Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 10:50 PM To: Mike Drew Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Yeah - nice guys. They take the lady’s car down the street and do burn-outs in it before buying it. A…holes!! I guess it’s “no-sale — AFTER - they break it.
On Sep 12, 2016, at 10:41 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
Julian, remember our friend Simon Velsmin holland was in negotiations to buy the Foose Pantera (a direct copy of the Alfa Romeo Carabo show car) when it got snatched out from under him by Richard Rawlings. That was last year sometime.
He shamellely stole that white Pantera from the widow in San Diego. It was worth double what he paid her for it. Too bad she wasn't connected in any way with the San Diego club; they would have looked out former and protected her from getting ripped off.
Sigh.....
Mike
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On Monday, September 12, 2016, Julian Kift <julian_kift@hotmail.com> wrote:
I wondered when this was actually filmed? Richard was talking $30-35K being a high for Pantera's and I remember list discussion on Sam Foose's Dia Kosa being for sale in FL at least a couple years back. So I looked up Barret Jackson east coast and their inaugural east coast auction was June 2016, so I guess it was filmed fairly recent, that said I'm surprised at the $28,500 price paid.
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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Mark H Gmail <sennamick@gmail.com> Sent: M onday, September 12, 2016 9:03 PM To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. Cc: Pantera Mail List Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
San Diego owner per the show. No name mentioned but owner (husband, deceased) had it a long time according to seller (his widow). If the show is to be believed the lady sold it to Richard for $28,500 I think it was. Pretty cheeep!
Mark 12, 2016, at 11:11 PM, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf@embarqmail.com> wrote:
Was this car known? I missed the Owners name. Joe/nc
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[1]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Mike Becker Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 22:48 PM To: 'marshall smith'; 'De Tomaso List' Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
It shows as 8:00pm - 9:00pm on my guide -- Directv, channel 278 (DSCHD) mike
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Hahaha, OMG people are starting to take stuff written on the email list seriously..... After all it's not like they put a friggin' Chebbie in it! [😉] Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Scott Bell <scott@saccrestorations.net> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:00 AM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud OMG PEOPLE!!!! It's a TV show! Do you believe everything you see on TV, on a REALITY SHOW! A lot of what you see is produced, ie: They planned to do that seen for the shock value. To set the record straight, the build was started MARCH 2016. I supplied many parts to the build during that timeframe. I was really hoping that this group would act like adults and not-bash the hell out of the car, like most of you did to the Ring Brothers car. We get it, if there are many changes that are out of the ordinary, you aren't going to like it. But that is what these shows do! Get over it... -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Jack Donahue Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 10:50 PM To: Mike Drew Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Yeah - nice guys. They take the lady’s car down the street and do burn-outs in it before buying it. A…holes!! I guess it’s “no-sale — AFTER - they break it.
On Sep 12, 2016, at 10:41 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
Julian, remember our friend Simon Velsmin holland was in negotiations to buy the Foose Pantera (a direct copy of the Alfa Romeo Carabo show car) when it got snatched out from under him by Richard Rawlings. That was last year sometime.
He shamellely stole that white Pantera from the widow in San Diego. It was worth double what he paid her for it. Too bad she wasn't connected in any way with the San Diego club; they would have looked out former and protected her from getting ripped off.
Sigh.....
Mike
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On Monday, September 12, 2016, Julian Kift <julian_kift@hotmail.com> wrote:
I wondered when this was actually filmed? Richard was talking $30-35K being a high for Pantera's and I remember list discussion on Sam Foose's Dia Kosa being for sale in FL at least a couple years back. So I looked up Barret Jackson east coast and their inaugural east coast auction was June 2016, so I guess it was filmed fairly recent, that said I'm surprised at the $28,500 price paid.
Julian __________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Mark H Gmail <sennamick@gmail.com> Sent: M onday, September 12, 2016 9:03 PM To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. Cc: Pantera Mail List Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
San Diego owner per the show. No name mentioned but owner (husband, deceased) had it a long time according to seller (his widow). If the show is to be believed the lady sold it to Richard for $28,500 I think it was. Pretty cheeep!
Mark 12, 2016, at 11:11 PM, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf@embarqmail.com> wrote:
Was this car known? I missed the Owners name. Joe/nc
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It shows as 8:00pm - 9:00pm on my guide -- Directv, channel 278 (DSCHD) mike
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On Sep 12, 2016, at 10:41 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
Julian, remember our friend Simon Velsmin holland was in negotiations to buy the Foose Pantera (a direct copy of the Alfa Romeo Carabo show car) when it got snatched out from under him by Richard Rawlings. That was last year sometime.
He shamellely stole that white Pantera from the widow in San Diego. It was worth double what he paid her for it. Too bad she wasn't connected in any way with the San Diego club; they would have looked out former and protected her from getting ripped off.
Sigh.....
Mike
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On Monday, September 12, 2016, Julian Kift <julian_kift@hotmail.com> wrote:
I wondered when this was actually filmed? Richard was talking $30-35K being a high for Pantera's and I remember list discussion on Sam Foose's Dia Kosa being for sale in FL at least a couple years back. So I looked up Barret Jackson east coast and their inaugural east coast auction was June 2016, so I guess it was filmed fairly recent, that said I'm surprised at the $28,500 price paid.
Julian __________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Mark H Gmail <sennamick@gmail.com> Sent: M onday, September 12, 2016 9:03 PM To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. Cc: Pantera Mail List Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
San Diego owner per the show. No name mentioned but owner (husband, deceased) had it a long time according to seller (his widow). If the show is to be believed the lady sold it to Richard for $28,500 I think it was. Pretty cheeep!
Mark 12, 2016, at 11:11 PM, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf@embarqmail.com> wrote:
Was this car known? I missed the Owners name. Joe/nc
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[1]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Mike Becker Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 22:48 PM To: 'marshall smith'; 'De Tomaso List' Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
It shows as 8:00pm - 9:00pm on my guide -- Directv, channel 278 (DSCHD) mike
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Come on Julian!!! Play nice… Come on out to Willow Springs in a couple of weeks. I will be there with my Pantera. It is finished with a new exhaust. Something a bit different than what others have done. I know doing something different is a no-no for a lot of folks on this list. But, I get enough support from most people to make it easy to sleep at night! From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:33 AM To: Scott Bell; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Hahaha, OMG people are starting to take stuff written on the email list seriously..... After all it's not like they put a friggin' Chebbie in it! ?? Julian _____ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Scott Bell <scott@saccrestorations.net> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:00 AM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud OMG PEOPLE!!!! It's a TV show! Do you believe everything you see on TV, on a REALITY SHOW! A lot of what you see is produced, ie: They planned to do that seen for the shock value. To set the record straight, the build was started MARCH 2016. I supplied many parts to the build during that timeframe. I was really hoping that this group would act like adults and not-bash the hell out of the car, like most of you did to the Ring Brothers car. We get it, if there are many changes that are out of the ordinary, you aren't going to like it. But that is what these shows do! Get over it... -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Jack Donahue Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 10:50 PM To: Mike Drew Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Yeah - nice guys. They take the lady’s car down the street and do burn-outs in it before buying it. A…holes!! I guess it’s “no-sale — AFTER - they break it.
On Sep 12, 2016, at 10:41 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
Julian, remember our friend Simon Velsmin holland was in negotiations to buy the Foose Pantera (a direct copy of the Alfa Romeo Carabo show car) when it got snatched out from under him by Richard Rawlings. That was last year sometime.
He shamellely stole that white Pantera from the widow in San Diego. It was worth double what he paid her for it. Too bad she wasn't connected in any way with the San Diego club; they would have looked out former and protected her from getting ripped off.
Sigh.....
Mike
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On Monday, September 12, 2016, Julian Kift <julian_kift@hotmail.com> wrote:
I wondered when this was actually filmed? Richard was talking $30-35K being a high for Pantera's and I remember list discussion on Sam Foose's Dia Kosa being for sale in FL at least a couple years back. So I looked up Barret Jackson east coast and their inaugural east coast auction was June 2016, so I guess it was filmed fairly recent, that said I'm surprised at the $28,500 price paid.
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San Diego owner per the show. No name mentioned but owner (husband, deceased) had it a long time according to seller (his widow). If the show is to be believed the lady sold it to Richard for $28,500 I think it was. Pretty cheeep!
Mark 12, 2016, at 11:11 PM, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf@embarqmail.com> wrote:
Was this car known? I missed the Owners name. Joe/nc
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It shows as 8:00pm - 9:00pm on my guide -- Directv, channel 278 (DSCHD) mike
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On Sep 12, 2016, at 10:41 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <[6]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
Julian, remember our friend Simon Velsmin holland was in negotiations to buy the Foose Pantera (a direct copy of the Alfa Romeo Carabo show car) when it got snatched out from under him by Richard Rawlings. That was last year sometime.
He shamellely stole that white Pantera from the widow in San Diego. It was worth double what he paid her for it. Too bad she wasn't connected in any way with the San Diego club; they would have looked out former and protected her from getting ripped off.
Sigh.....
Mike
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On Monday, September 12, 2016, Julian Kift <[7]julian_kift@hotmail.com> wrote:
I wondered when this was actually filmed? Richard was talking $30-35K being a high for Pantera's and I remember list discussion on Sam Foose's Dia Kosa being for sale in FL at least a couple years back. So I looked up Barret Jackson east coast and their inaugural east coast auction was June 2016, so I guess it was filmed fairly recent, that said I'm surprised at the $28,500 price paid.
Julian __________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <[8]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Mark H Gmail <[9]sennamick@gmail.com> Sent: M onday, September 12, 2016 9:03 PM To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. Cc: Pantera Mail List Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
San Diego owner per the show. No name mentioned but owner (husband, deceased) had it a long time according to seller (his widow). If the show is to be believed the lady sold it to Richard for $28,500 I think it was. Pretty cheeep!
Mark 12, 2016, at 11:11 PM, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <[10]byrdjf@embarqmail.com> wrote:
Was this car known? I missed the Owners name. Joe/nc
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It shows as 8:00pm - 9:00pm on my guide -- Directv, channel 278 (DSCHD) mike
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Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. Come on Julian!!! Play nice... Come on out to Willow Springs in a couple of weeks. I will be there with my Pantera. It is finished with a new exhaust. Something a bit different than what others have done. I know doing something different is a no-no for a lot of folks on this list. But, I get enough support from most people to make it easy to sleep at night! From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:33 AM To: Scott Bell; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Hahaha, OMG people are starting to take stuff written on the email list seriously..... After all it's not like they put a friggin' Chebbie in it! 😉 Julian _____________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso <[1]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Scott Bell <[2]scott@saccrestorations.net> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:00 AM To: [3]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud OMG PEOPLE!!!! It's a TV show! Do you believe everything you see on TV, on a REALITY SHOW! A lot of what you see is produced, ie: They planned to do that seen for the shock value. To set the record straight, the build was started MARCH 2016. I supplied many parts to the build during that timeframe. I was really hoping that this group would act like adults and not-bash the hell out of the car, like most of you did to the Ring Brothers car. We get it, if there are many changes that are out of the ordinary, you aren't going to like it. But that is what these shows do! Get over it... -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[4]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Jack Donahue Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 10:50 PM To: Mike Drew Cc: [5]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Yeah - nice guys. They take the lady's car down the street and do burn-outs in it before buying it. A...holes!! I guess it's "no-sale -- AFTER - they break it. the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. list. 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Scott, All in jest my friend, each to his own and your car looks great from the photos I have seen. It seems that GM finally recognize where the engine should be in a sports car and the 2017 Corvette will be mid engine. I for one a glad that at least one vendor got something positive out of the show! As for track, I gave up running street cars on track and went to open wheel formula. I'm not the purist you might think, it is only at tabletop design stage, but I'm looking to stuff a Mercedes V12 in my '74 Pantera, there that should take the heat off you for a while on here..... Julian ________________________________ From: Scott Bell <scott@saccrestorations.net> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:42 AM To: 'Julian Kift'; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Come on Julian!!! Play nice… Come on out to Willow Springs in a couple of weeks. I will be there with my Pantera. It is finished with a new exhaust. Something a bit different than what others have done. I know doing something different is a no-no for a lot of folks on this list. But, I get enough support from most people to make it easy to sleep at night! From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:33 AM To: Scott Bell; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Hahaha, OMG people are starting to take stuff written on the email list seriously..... After all it's not like they put a friggin' Chebbie in it! [??] Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Scott Bell <scott@saccrestorations.net<mailto:scott@saccrestorations.net>> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:00 AM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud OMG PEOPLE!!!! It's a TV show! Do you believe everything you see on TV, on a REALITY SHOW! A lot of what you see is produced, ie: They planned to do that seen for the shock value. To set the record straight, the build was started MARCH 2016. I supplied many parts to the build during that timeframe. I was really hoping that this group would act like adults and not-bash the hell out of the car, like most of you did to the Ring Brothers car. We get it, if there are many changes that are out of the ordinary, you aren't going to like it. But that is what these shows do! Get over it... -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Jack Donahue Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 10:50 PM To: Mike Drew Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Yeah - nice guys. They take the lady’s car down the street and do burn-outs in it before buying it. A…holes!! I guess it’s “no-sale — AFTER - they break it.
On Sep 12, 2016, at 10:41 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:
Julian, remember our friend Simon Velsmin holland was in negotiations to buy the Foose Pantera (a direct copy of the Alfa Romeo Carabo show car) when it got snatched out from under him by Richard Rawlings. That was last year sometime.
He shamellely stole that white Pantera from the widow in San Diego. It was worth double what he paid her for it. Too bad she wasn't connected in any way with the San Diego club; they would have looked out former and protected her from getting ripped off.
Sigh.....
Mike
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On Monday, September 12, 2016, Julian Kift <julian_kift@hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com>> wrote:
I wondered when this was actually filmed? Richard was talking $30-35K being a high for Pantera's and I remember list discussion on Sam Foose's Dia Kosa being for sale in FL at least a couple years back. So I looked up Barret Jackson east coast and their inaugural east coast auction was June 2016, so I guess it was filmed fairly recent, that said I'm surprised at the $28,500 price paid.
Julian __________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Mark H Gmail <sennamick@gmail.com<mailto:sennamick@gmail.com>> Sent: M onday, September 12, 2016 9:03 PM To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. Cc: Pantera Mail List Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
San Diego owner per the show. No name mentioned but owner (husband, deceased) had it a long time according to seller (his widow). If the show is to be believed the lady sold it to Richard for $28,500 I think it was. Pretty cheeep!
Mark 12, 2016, at 11:11 PM, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf@embarqmail.com<mailto:byrdjf@embarqmail.com>> wrote:
Was this car known? I missed the Owners name. Joe/nc
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It shows as 8:00pm - 9:00pm on my guide -- Directv, channel 278 (DSCHD) mike
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On Sep 12, 2016, at 10:41 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <[6]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
Julian, remember our friend Simon Velsmin holland was in negotiations to buy the Foose Pantera (a direct copy of the Alfa Romeo Carabo show car) when it got snatched out from under him by Richard Rawlings. That was last year sometime.
He shamellely stole that white Pantera from the widow in San Diego. It was worth double what he paid her for it. Too bad she wasn't connected in any way with the San Diego club; they would have looked out former and protected her from getting ripped off.
Sigh.....
Mike
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On Monday, September 12, 2016, Julian Kift <[7]julian_kift@hotmail.com> wrote:
I wondered when this was actually filmed? Richard was talking $30-35K being a high for Pantera's and I remember list discussion on Sam Foose's Dia Kosa being for sale in FL at least a couple years back. So I looked up Barret Jackson east coast and their inaugural east coast auction was June 2016, so I guess it was filmed fairly recent, that said I'm surprised at the $28,500 price paid.
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San Diego owner per the show. No name mentioned but owner (husband, deceased) had it a long time according to seller (his widow). If the show is to be believed the lady sold it to Richard for $28,500 I think it was. Pretty cheeep!
Mark 12, 2016, at 11:11 PM, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <[10]byrdjf@embarqmail.com> wrote:
Was this car known? I missed the Owners name. Joe/nc
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It shows as 8:00pm - 9:00pm on my guide -- Directv, channel 278 (DSCHD) mike
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They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. Scott, All in jest my friend, each to his own and your car looks great from the photos I have seen. It seems that GM finally recognize where the engine should be in a sports car and the 2017 Corvette will be mid engine. I for one a glad that at least one vendor got something positive out of the show! As for track, I gave up running street cars on track and went to open wheel formula. I'm not the purist you might think, it is only at tabletop design stage, but I'm looking to stuff a Mercedes V12 in my '74 Pantera, there that should take the heat off you for a while on here..... Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: Scott Bell <scott@saccrestorations.net> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:42 AM To: 'Julian Kift'; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Come on Julian!!! Play nice... Come on out to Willow Springs in a couple of weeks. I will be there with my Pantera. It is finished with a new exhaust. Something a bit different than what others have done. I know doing something different is a no-no for a lot of folks on this list. But, I get enough support from most people to make it easy to sleep at night! From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:33 AM To: Scott Bell; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Hahaha, OMG people are starting to take stuff written on the email list seriously..... After all it's not like they put a friggin' Chebbie in it! �� Julian _____________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso <[1]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Scott Bell <[2]scott@saccrestorations.net> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:00 AM To: [3]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud OMG PEOPLE!!!! It's a TV show! Do you believe everything you see on TV, on a REALITY SHOW! A lot of what you see is produced, ie: They planned to do that seen for the shock value. To set the record straight, the build was started MARCH 2016. I supplied many parts to the build during that timeframe. I was really hoping that this group would act like adults and not-bash the hell out of the car, like most of you did to the Ring Brothers car. We get it, if there are many changes that are out of the ordinary, you aren't going to like it. But that is what these shows do! Get over it... -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[4]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Jack Donahue Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 10:50 PM To: Mike Drew Cc: [5]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Yeah - nice guys. They take the lady's car down the street and do burn-outs in it before buying it. A...holes!! I guess it's "no-sale -- AFTER - they break it. the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. list. 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On Sep 12, 2016, at 10:41 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
Julian, remember our friend Simon Velsmin holland was in negotiations to buy the Foose Pantera (a direct copy of the Alfa Romeo Carabo show car) when it got snatched out from under him by Richard Rawlings. That was last year sometime.
He shamellely stole that white Pantera from the widow in San Diego. It was worth double what he paid her for it. Too bad she wasn't connected in any way with the San Diego club; they would have looked out former and protected her from getting ripped off.
Sigh.....
Mike
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On Monday, September 12, 2016, Julian Kift <julian_kift@hotmail.com> wrote:
I wondered when this was actually filmed? Richard was talking $30-35K being a high for Pantera's and I remember list discussion on Sam Foose's Dia Kosa being for sale in FL at least a couple years back. So I looked up Barret Jackson east coast and their inaugural east coast auction was June 2016, so I guess it was filmed fairly recent, that said I'm surprised at the $28,500 price paid.
Julian __________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Mark H Gmail <sennamick@gmail.com> Sent: M onday, September 12, 2016 9:03 PM To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. Cc: Pantera Mail List Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
San Diego owner per the show. No name mentioned but owner (husband, deceased) had it a long time according to seller (his widow). If the show is to be believed the lady sold it to Richard for $28,500 I think it was. Pretty cheeep!
Mark 12, 2016, at 11:11 PM, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf@embarqmail.com> wrote:
Was this car known? I missed the Owners name. Joe/nc
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It shows as 8:00pm - 9:00pm on my guide -- Directv, channel 278 (DSCHD) mike
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I can't wait to see it Julian!!!! Take care, Scott From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 11:30 AM To: Scott Bell; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Scott, All in jest my friend, each to his own and your car looks great from the photos I have seen. It seems that GM finally recognize where the engine should be in a sports car and the 2017 Corvette will be mid engine. I for one a glad that at least one vendor got something positive out of the show! As for track, I gave up running street cars on track and went to open wheel formula. I'm not the purist you might think, it is only at tabletop design stage, but I'm looking to stuff a Mercedes V12 in my '74 Pantera, there that should take the heat off you for a while on here..... Julian _____ From: Scott Bell <scott@saccrestorations.net> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:42 AM To: 'Julian Kift'; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Come on Julian!!! Play nice. Come on out to Willow Springs in a couple of weeks. I will be there with my Pantera. It is finished with a new exhaust. Something a bit different than what others have done. I know doing something different is a no-no for a lot of folks on this list. But, I get enough support from most people to make it easy to sleep at night! From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:33 AM To: Scott Bell; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Hahaha, OMG people are starting to take stuff written on the email list seriously..... After all it's not like they put a friggin' Chebbie in it! ?? Julian _____ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Scott Bell <scott@saccrestorations.net> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:00 AM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud OMG PEOPLE!!!! It's a TV show! Do you believe everything you see on TV, on a REALITY SHOW! A lot of what you see is produced, ie: They planned to do that seen for the shock value. To set the record straight, the build was started MARCH 2016. I supplied many parts to the build during that timeframe. I was really hoping that this group would act like adults and not-bash the hell out of the car, like most of you did to the Ring Brothers car. We get it, if there are many changes that are out of the ordinary, you aren't going to like it. But that is what these shows do! Get over it... -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Jack Donahue Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 10:50 PM To: Mike Drew Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Yeah - nice guys. They take the lady's car down the street and do burn-outs in it before buying it. A.holes!! I guess it's "no-sale - AFTER - they break it. the links above.
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Julian, remember our friend Simon Velsmin holland was in negotiations to buy the Foose Pantera (a direct copy of the Alfa Romeo Carabo show car) when it got snatched out from under him by Richard Rawlings. That was last year sometime.
He shamellely stole that white Pantera from the widow in San Diego. It was worth double what he paid her for it. Too bad she wasn't connected in any way with the San Diego club; they would have looked out former and protected her from getting ripped off.
Sigh.....
Mike
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I wondered when this was actually filmed? Richard was talking $30-35K being a high for Pantera's and I remember list discussion on Sam Foose's Dia Kosa being for sale in FL at least a couple years back. So I looked up Barret Jackson east coast and their inaugural east coast auction was June 2016, so I guess it was filmed fairly recent, that said I'm surprised at the $28,500 price paid.
Julian __________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <[12]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Mark H Gmail <[13]sennamick@gmail.com> Sent: M onday, September 12, 2016 9:03 PM To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. Cc: Pantera Mail List Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
San Diego owner per the show. No name mentioned but owner (husband, deceased) had it a long time according to seller (his widow). If the show is to be believed the lady sold it to Richard for $28,500 I think it was. Pretty cheeep!
Mark 12, 2016, at 11:11 PM, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <[14]byrdjf@embarqmail.com> wrote:
Was this car known? I missed the Owners name. Joe/nc
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It shows as 8:00pm - 9:00pm on my guide -- Directv, channel 278 (DSCHD) mike
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Take care, Scott From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 11:30 AM To: Scott Bell; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Scott, All in jest my friend, each to his own and your car looks great from the photos I have seen. It seems that GM finally recognize where the engine should be in a sports car and the 2017 Corvette will be mid engine. I for one a glad that at least one vendor got something positive out of the show! As for track, I gave up running street cars on track and went to open wheel formula. I'm not the purist you might think, it is only at tabletop design stage, but I'm looking to stuff a Mercedes V12 in my '74 Pantera, there that should take the heat off you for a while on here..... Julian _____________________________________________________________________ From: Scott Bell <[1]scott@saccrestorations.net> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:42 AM To: 'Julian Kift'; [2]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Come on Julian!!! Play nice... Come on out to Willow Springs in a couple of weeks. I will be there with my Pantera. It is finished with a new exhaust. Something a bit different than what others have done. I know doing something different is a no-no for a lot of folks on this list. But, I get enough support from most people to make it easy to sleep at night! From: Julian Kift [3][mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:33 AM To: Scott Bell; [4]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Hahaha, OMG people are starting to take stuff written on the email list seriously..... After all it's not like they put a friggin' Chebbie in it! 😉 Julian _____________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso <[5]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Scott Bell <[6]scott@saccrestorations.net> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:00 AM To: [7]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud OMG PEOPLE!!!! It's a TV show! Do you believe everything you see on TV, on a REALITY SHOW! A lot of what you see is produced, ie: They planned to do that seen for the shock value. To set the record straight, the build was started MARCH 2016. I supplied many parts to the build during that timeframe. I was really hoping that this group would act like adults and not-bash the hell out of the car, like most of you did to the Ring Brothers car. We get it, if there are many changes that are out of the ordinary, you aren't going to like it. But that is what these shows do! Get over it... -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[8]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Jack Donahue Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 10:50 PM To: Mike Drew Cc: [9]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Yeah - nice guys. They take the lady's car down the street and do burn-outs in it before buying it. A...holes!! I guess it's "no-sale -- AFTER - they break it. the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. list. 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Scott: Can I get a time and date you ill be at Willow? Jack
On Sep 13, 2016, at 10:42 AM, Scott Bell <scott@saccrestorations.net> wrote:
Come on Julian!!! Play nice...
Come on out to Willow Springs in a couple of weeks. I will be there with my Pantera. It is finished with a new exhaust. Something a bit different than what others have done.
I know doing something different is a no-no for a lot of folks on this list. But, I get enough support from most people to make it easy to sleep at night!
From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:33 AM To: Scott Bell; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
Hahaha, OMG people are starting to take stuff written on the email list seriously.....
After all it's not like they put a friggin' Chebbie in it! 😉
Julian
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On Sep 12, 2016, at 10:41 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <[6]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
Julian, remember our friend Simon Velsmin holland was in negotiations to buy the Foose Pantera (a direct copy of the Alfa Romeo Carabo show car) when it got snatched out from under him by Richard Rawlings. That was last year sometime.
He shamellely stole that white Pantera from the widow in San Diego. It was worth double what he paid her for it. Too bad she wasn't connected in any way with the San Diego club; they would have looked out former and protected her from getting ripped off.
Sigh.....
Mike
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I wondered when this was actually filmed? Richard was talking $30-35K being a high for Pantera's and I remember list discussion on Sam Foose's Dia Kosa being for sale in FL at least a couple years back. So I looked up Barret Jackson east coast and their inaugural east coast auction was June 2016, so I guess it was filmed fairly recent, that said I'm surprised at the $28,500 price paid.
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San Diego owner per the show. No name mentioned but owner (husband, deceased) had it a long time according to seller (his widow). If the show is to be believed the lady sold it to Richard for $28,500 I think it was. Pretty cheeep!
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Was this car known? I missed the Owners name. Joe/nc
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[1][11]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Mike Becker Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 22:48 PM To: 'marshall smith'; 'De Tomaso List' Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
It shows as 8:00pm - 9:00pm on my guide -- Directv, channel 278 (DSCHD) mike
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OMG PEOPLE!!!! It's a TV show! Do you believe everything you see on TV, on a REALITY SHOW! A lot of what you see is produced, ie: They planned to do that seen for the shock value. To set the record straight, the build was started MARCH 2016. I supplied many parts to the build during that timeframe. I was really hoping that this group would act like adults and not-bash the hell out of the car, like most of you did to the Ring Brothers car. We get it, if there are many changes that are out of the ordinary, you aren't going to like it. But that is what these shows do! Get over it... -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[4]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Jack Donahue Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 10:50 PM To: Mike Drew Cc: [5]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Yeah - nice guys. They take the lady's car down the street and do burn-outs in it before buying it. A...holes!! I guess it's "no-sale -- AFTER - they break it. the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [29]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [30]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [31]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [32]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
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San Diego owner per the show. No name mentioned but owner (husband, deceased) had it a long time according to seller (his widow). If the show is to be believed the lady sold it to Richard for $28,500 I think it was. Pretty cheeep!
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Was this car known? I missed the Owners name. Joe/nc
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[1]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Mike Becker Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 22:48 PM To: 'marshall smith'; 'De Tomaso List' Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
It shows as 8:00pm - 9:00pm on my guide -- Directv, channel 278 (DSCHD) mike
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[2]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of marshall smith Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 9:53 AM To: De Tomaso List <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
Tonight, Monday Sept 12th....a customized Pantera on Fast & Loud on
Ah yes I do recall Simon negotiating on it, I must admit I hadn't realized or missed the part where it got snatched by RR. So Rawlings says Pantera's are worth $30-35K, this being after he paid $330K for the Ring Brothers Pantera! Maybe he should have listened to Chip who I believe said not to change a good design when doing his, but these guys are just plain back street hacks with no design taste or prior thinking. Julian ________________________________ From: Mike Drew <mikeldrew@aol.com> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 10:41 PM To: julian_kift@hotmail.com Cc: byrdjf@embarqmail.com; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; sennamick@gmail.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Julian, remember our friend Simon Velsmin holland was in negotiations to buy the Foose Pantera (a direct copy of the Alfa Romeo Carabo show car) when it got snatched out from under him by Richard Rawlings. That was last year sometime. He shamellely stole that white Pantera from the widow in San Diego. It was worth double what he paid her for it. Too bad she wasn't connected in any way with the San Diego club; they would have looked out former and protected her from getting ripped off. Sigh..... Mike Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On Monday, September 12, 2016, Julian Kift <julian_kift@hotmail.com> wrote: I wondered when this was actually filmed? Richard was talking $30-35K being a high for Pantera's and I remember list discussion on Sam Foose's Dia Kosa being for sale in FL at least a couple years back. So I looked up Barret Jackson east coast and their inaugural east coast auction was June 2016, so I guess it was filmed fairly recent, that said I'm surprised at the $28,500 price paid. Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Mark H Gmail <sennamick@gmail.com> Sent: M onday, September 12, 2016 9:03 PM To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. Cc: Pantera Mail List Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud the
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San Diego owner per the show. No name mentioned but owner (husband, deceased) had it a long time according to seller (his widow). If the show is to be believed the lady sold it to Richard for $28,500 I think it was. Pretty cheeep!
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Was this car known? I missed the Owners name. Joe/nc
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It shows as 8:00pm - 9:00pm on my guide -- Directv, channel 278 (DSCHD) mike
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San Diego owner per the show. No name mentioned but owner (husband, deceased) had it a long time according to seller (his widow). If the show is to be believed the lady sold it to Richard for $28,500 I think it was. Pretty cheeep!
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Was this car known? I missed the Owners name. Joe/nc
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It shows as 8:00pm - 9:00pm on my guide -- Directv, channel 278 (DSCHD) mike
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[2]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of marshall smith Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 9:53 AM To: De Tomaso List <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
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I couldn't watch it uninterrupted but a few points I THINK I heard; He was expecting a "six figure" sale price. He was going to completely rebuild in 6 weeks And not sure if he said with a $7500 or $17500 budget! Those last two had be thinking.6 weeks and even for trice the high budget, maybe I should get them to put mine back together . comments Bill, Ron! (truth being even for the low budget, I would NOT let them do it) If this was an year ago, should't that car have gone across the BJ stage? Joe/NC From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:21 AM To: Mike Drew Cc: byrdjf@embarqmail.com; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; sennamick@gmail.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Ah yes I do recall Simon negotiating on it, I must admit I hadn't realized or missed the part where it got snatched by RR. So Rawlings says Pantera's are worth $30-35K, this being after he paid $330K for the Ring Brothers Pantera! Maybe he should have listened to Chip who I believe said not to change a good design when doing his, but these guys are just plain back street hacks with no design taste or prior thinking. Julian _____ From: Mike Drew <mikeldrew@aol.com> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 10:41 PM To: julian_kift@hotmail.com Cc: byrdjf@embarqmail.com; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; sennamick@gmail.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Julian, remember our friend Simon Velsmin holland was in negotiations to buy the Foose Pantera (a direct copy of the Alfa Romeo Carabo show car) when it got snatched out from under him by Richard Rawlings. That was last year sometime. He shamellely stole that white Pantera from the widow in San Diego. It was worth double what he paid her for it. Too bad she wasn't connected in any way with the San Diego club; they would have looked out former and protected her from getting ripped off. Sigh..... Mike Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On Monday, September 12, 2016, Julian Kift <julian_kift@hotmail.com> wrote: I wondered when this was actually filmed? Richard was talking $30-35K being a high for Pantera's and I remember list discussion on Sam Foose's Dia Kosa being for sale in FL at least a couple years back. So I looked up Barret Jackson east coast and their inaugural east coast auction was June 2016, so I guess it was filmed fairly recent, that said I'm surprised at the $28,500 price paid. Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Mark H Gmail <sennamick@gmail.com> Sent: M onday, September 12, 2016 9:03 PM To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. Cc: Pantera Mail List Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud the
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San Diego owner per the show. No name mentioned but owner (husband, deceased) had it a long time according to seller (his widow). If the show is to be believed the lady sold it to Richard for $28,500 I think it was. Pretty cheeep!
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Was this car known? I missed the Owners name. Joe/nc
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It shows as 8:00pm - 9:00pm on my guide -- Directv, channel 278 (DSCHD) mike
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[2][11]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of marshall smith Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 9:53 AM To: De Tomaso List <[12]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
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San Diego owner per the show. No name mentioned but owner (husband, deceased) had it a long time according to seller (his widow). If the show is to be believed the lady sold it to Richard for $28,500 I think it was. Pretty cheeep!
Mark 12, 2016, at 11:11 PM, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf@embarqmail.com> wrote:
Was this car known? I missed the Owners name. Joe/nc
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It shows as 8:00pm - 9:00pm on my guide -- Directv, channel 278 (DSCHD) mike
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Well they paid $10K for the truck to get a 133,000 mile eco-boost engine out of, when they got it out it looked like it had been driven through every ranch in Texas! I can't believe some sucker will pay 6 figures for this, but then doesn't he generally lose money anyway? This Pantera does not show on the docket or in the results for the BJ Northeast auction held end of June, so maybe there is a non disclosure until the show has aired. Even so you'd expect some noise out there from people at the auction, I found a video of his Ford Gt going across the block and a list of 12 cars he had there, no mention of a Panetra though. Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf@embarqmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 7:36 AM To: 'Pantera Mail List' Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud I couldn't watch it uninterrupted but a few points I THINK I heard; He was expecting a "six figure" sale price. He was going to completely rebuild in 6 weeks And not sure if he said with a $7500 or $17500 budget! Those last two had be thinking.6 weeks and even for trice the high budget, maybe I should get them to put mine back together . comments Bill, Ron! (truth being even for the low budget, I would NOT let them do it) If this was an year ago, should't that car have gone across the BJ stage? Joe/NC From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:21 AM To: Mike Drew Cc: byrdjf@embarqmail.com; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; sennamick@gmail.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Ah yes I do recall Simon negotiating on it, I must admit I hadn't realized or missed the part where it got snatched by RR. So Rawlings says Pantera's are worth $30-35K, this being after he paid $330K for the Ring Brothers Pantera! Maybe he should have listened to Chip who I believe said not to change a good design when doing his, but these guys are just plain back street hacks with no design taste or prior thinking. Julian _____ From: Mike Drew <mikeldrew@aol.com> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 10:41 PM To: julian_kift@hotmail.com Cc: byrdjf@embarqmail.com; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; sennamick@gmail.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Julian, remember our friend Simon Velsmin holland was in negotiations to buy the Foose Pantera (a direct copy of the Alfa Romeo Carabo show car) when it got snatched out from under him by Richard Rawlings. That was last year sometime. He shamellely stole that white Pantera from the widow in San Diego. It was worth double what he paid her for it. Too bad she wasn't connected in any way with the San Diego club; they would have looked out former and protected her from getting ripped off. Sigh..... Mike Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On Monday, September 12, 2016, Julian Kift <julian_kift@hotmail.com> wrote: I wondered when this was actually filmed? Richard was talking $30-35K being a high for Pantera's and I remember list discussion on Sam Foose's Dia Kosa being for sale in FL at least a couple years back. So I looked up Barret Jackson east coast and their inaugural east coast auction was June 2016, so I guess it was filmed fairly recent, that said I'm surprised at the $28,500 price paid. Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Mark H Gmail <sennamick@gmail.com> Sent: M onday, September 12, 2016 9:03 PM To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. Cc: Pantera Mail List Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud the
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San Diego owner per the show. No name mentioned but owner (husband, deceased) had it a long time according to seller (his widow). If the show is to be believed the lady sold it to Richard for $28,500 I think it was. Pretty cheeep!
Mark 12, 2016, at 11:11 PM, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf@embarqmail.com> wrote:
Was this car known? I missed the Owners name. Joe/nc
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It shows as 8:00pm - 9:00pm on my guide -- Directv, channel 278 (DSCHD) mike
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[2]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of marshall smith Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 9:53 AM To: De Tomaso List <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
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San Diego owner per the show. No name mentioned but owner (husband, deceased) had it a long time according to seller (his widow). If the show is to be believed the lady sold it to Richard for $28,500 I think it was. Pretty cheeep!
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Was this car known? I missed the Owners name. Joe/nc
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[1]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Mike Becker Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 22:48 PM To: 'marshall smith'; 'De Tomaso List' Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
It shows as 8:00pm - 9:00pm on my guide -- Directv, channel 278 (DSCHD) mike
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Well, they say they want to finish it in time but maybe that was a bridge too far. Comprehensively destroying a Pantera is a big job and they may have missed the deadline. Or, the resultant car is such a flaming POS that they wisely decide to avoid the inevitable humiliation that would result if it was to roll across the auction block, so they announce that they like it so much that it's too "good" to let go, so they keep it for themselves. It will be interesting to see. I imagine they are pulling a lot of good parts off this car--wheels, brakes, interior...some enterprising Dallas Pantera guy should go over there and see if the bits can be scooped up and then distributed to more deserving people via eBay? Mike Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On Tuesday, September 13, 2016, Julian Kift <julian_kift@hotmail.com> wrote: Well they paid $10K for the truck to get a 133,000 mile eco-boost engine out of, when they got it out it looked like it had been driven through every ranch in Texas! I can't believe some sucker will pay 6 figures for this, but then doesn't he generally lose money anyway? This Pantera does not show on the docket or in the results for the BJ Northeast auction held end of June, so maybe there is a non disclosure until the show has aired. Even so you'd expect some noise out there from people at the auction, I found a video of his Ford Gt going across the block and a list of 12 cars he had there, no mention of a Panetra though. Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf@embarqmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 7:36 AM To: 'Pantera Mail List' Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud I couldn't watch it uninterrupted but a few points I THINK I heard; He was expecting a "six figure" sale price. He was going to completely rebuild in 6 weeks And not sure if he said with a $7500 or $17500 budget! Those last two had be thinking.6 weeks and even for trice the high budget, maybe I should get them to put mine back together . comments Bill, Ron! (truth being even for the low budget, I would NOT let them do it) If this was an year ago, should't that car have gone across the BJ stage? Joe/NC From: Julian Kift [[1]mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:21 AM To: Mike Drew Cc: byrdjf@embarqmail.com; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; sennamick@gmail.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Ah yes I do recall Simon negotiating on it, I must admit I hadn't realized or missed the part where it got snatched by RR. So Rawlings says Pantera's are worth $30-35K, this being after he paid $330K for the Ring Brothers Pantera! Maybe he should have listened to Chip who I believe said not to change a good design when doing his, but these guys are just plain back street hacks with no design taste or prior thinking. Julian _____ From: Mike Drew <mikeldrew@aol.com> Sent: M onday, September 12, 2016 10:41 PM To: julian_kift@hotmail.com Cc: byrdjf@embarqmail.com; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; sennamick@gmail.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Julian, remember our friend Simon Velsmin holland was in negotiations to buy the Foose Pantera (a direct copy of the Alfa Romeo Carabo show car) when it got snatched out from under him by Richard Rawlings. That was last year sometime. He shamellely stole that white Pantera from the widow in San Diego. It was worth double what he paid her for it. Too bad she wasn't connected in any way with the San Diego club; they would have looked out former and protected her from getting ripped off. Sigh..... Mike Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On Monday, September 12, 2016, Julian Kift <julian_kift@hotmail.com> wrote: I wondered when this was actually filmed? Richard was talking $30-35K being a high for Pantera's and I remember list discussion on Sam Foose's Dia Kosa being for sale in FL at least a couple years back. So I looked up Barret Jackson east coast and their inaugural east coast auction was June 2016, so I guess it was filmed fairly recent, that said I'm surprised at the $28,500 price paid. Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Mark H Gmail <sennamick@gmail.com> Sent: M onday, September 12, 2016 9:03 PM To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. Cc: Pantera Mail List Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud the
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Seller was Sandy Saska. I don't think they mentioned her late husband's name. I didn't recognize the name and I've been hanging with the local Pantera crowd here in San Diego for nearly 15 years. We have several other folks in SDP who have been around much longer, maybe one of them will know the name. mike -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 8:11 PM To: 'Pantera Mail List' <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Was this car known? I missed the Owners name. Joe/nc -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Mike Becker Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 22:48 PM To: 'marshall smith'; 'De Tomaso List' Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud It shows as 8:00pm - 9:00pm on my guide -- Directv, channel 278 (DSCHD) mike -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of marshall smith Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 9:53 AM To: De Tomaso List <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Tonight, Monday Sept 12th....a customized Pantera on Fast & Loud on the Discovery Channel @ 9:00PST _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
Robert has heard the Saska name, he's trying to remember more... Well, when we were at the hospital last Friday, he was pretty confused, when they asked him what day it was, he said Wed, March 17, 1943! Let's hope his memory is back now! Sent from Effie's iPad
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Seller was Sandy Saska. I don't think they mentioned her late husband's name. I didn't recognize the name and I've been hanging with the local Pantera crowd here in San Diego for nearly 15 years. We have several other folks in SDP who have been around much longer, maybe one of them will know the name. mike
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Was this car known? I missed the Owners name. Joe/nc
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It shows as 8:00pm - 9:00pm on my guide -- Directv, channel 278 (DSCHD) mike
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9 to 10 on Frontier / Verizon Los Angeles area Thanks for the heads-up! Just in time Jim -----Original Message----- From: Mike Becker <mikebecker679@gmail.com> To: 'marshall smith' <marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.net>; 'De Tomaso List' <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Mon, Sep 12, 2016 7:48 pm Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud It shows as 8:00pm - 9:00pm on my guide -- Directv, channel 278 (DSCHD) mike -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of marshall smith Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 9:53 AM To: De Tomaso List <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Tonight, Monday Sept 12th....a customized Pantera on Fast & Loud on the Discovery Channel @ 9:00PST _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. 9 to 10 on Frontier / Verizon Los Angeles area Thanks for the heads-up! Just in time Jim -----Original Message----- From: Mike Becker <mikebecker679@gmail.com> To: 'marshall smith' <marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.net>; 'De Tomaso List' <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Mon, Sep 12, 2016 7:48 pm Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud It shows as 8:00pm - 9:00pm on my guide -- Directv, channel 278 (DSCHD) mike -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of marshall smith Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 9:53 AM To: De Tomaso List <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Tonight, Monday Sept 12th....a customized Pantera on Fast & Loud on the Discovery Channel @ 9:00PST _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages.
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Mike Drew -
Mike Drew
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Pantdino -
Scott Bell