Re: [DeTomaso] FW: [SDP] Re: 2017 POCA Fun Rally

11 Oct 2016

      Well that puts Reno out of contention then. Reno-Fernley Raceway has been reclaimed by the sagebrush.

Julian

On Oct 11, 2016, at 2:56 PM, bill <bill@incendium.com<mailto:bill@incendium.com>> wrote:

Any and all rallies should always include at least one or two track days.

Cheers
Bill Moore
Calgary

-------- Original message --------
From: Julian Kift <julian_kift@hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com>>
Date: 2016-10-11 3:03 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew@aol.com<mailto:MikeLDrew@aol.com>>
Cc: detomaso detomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: [SDP] Re: 2017 POCA Fun Rally

What, not even if we paint them camo and give it some covert operation name ;)

I have to wonder what the theoretical cost per car would work out to be!

Julian
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On Oct 11, 2016, at 1:52 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:
Well, the cargo box is 121 ft long and we could fit two rows of cars. Assume a length of 15 feet (allowing some space between cars) that means two rows of eight for a total of 16 cars. But that would leave a lot of unused vertical space. If some sort of racking system was used conceivably we could fit 32 of them.
Not gonna happen...:)
Mike
Sent from my iPad
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On Oct 11, 2016, at 1:01 PM, marshall smith <marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.net<mailto:marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
Hmmm....how many Panteras will fit in a C5-B Galaxy??
m
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On Tue, 10/11/16, Charles McCall <charlesmccall@gmail.com<mailto:charlesmccall@gmail.com>> wrote:
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: [SDP] Re: 2017 POCA Fun Rally
To: "marshall smith" <marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.net<mailto:marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.net>>
Cc: "Larry Stock" <larrys@panteraparts.com<mailto:larrys@panteraparts.com>>, "Effie Richards" <erichards@zogob.sdcoxmail.com<mailto:erichards@zogob.sdcoxmail.com>>, "Julian Kift" <julian_kift@hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com>>, "bill@incendium.com<mailto:bill@incendium.com>" <bill@incendium.com<mailto:bill@incendium.com>>, "detomaso detomaso" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>>
Date: Tuesday, October 11, 2016, 12:58 PM
Put your
cars in a container and send them to Europe! What a road
trip!
(am I
helping?)
On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at
9:57 PM, marshall smith <marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.net<mailto:marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.net>>
wrote:
I LOVED
Reno!! That town rolled out the welcome mat to all of us!
Let's go again!!!
Marshall Smith
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On Tue, 10/11/16, bill@incendium.com<mailto:bill@incendium.com>
<bill@incendium.com<mailto:bill@incendium.com>>
wrote:
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: [SDP] Re: 2017 POCA Fun
Rally
To: "Larry Stock" <larrys@panteraparts.com<mailto:larrys@panteraparts.com>>,
"Effie Richards" <erichards@zogob.sdcoxmail.com<mailto:erichards@zogob.sdcoxmail.com>
...
, "'Julian Kift'" <julian_kift@hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com>>
Cc: "'detomaso detomaso'" <detomaso@server.detomasolist<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist>.
com>
Date: Tuesday, October 11, 2016, 12:55 PM
RENO , RENO, RENO
Cheers
Bill Moore
Calgary
-------- Original message --------
From: Larry Stock <larrys@panteraparts.com<mailto:larrys@panteraparts.com>>
Date: 2016-10-11 1:09 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: Effie Richards <erichards@zogob.sdcoxmail.com<mailto:erichards@zogob.sdcoxmail.com>
...
,
'Julian Kift'
<julian_kift@hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com>>,
bill@incendium.com<mailto:bill@incendium.com>
Cc: 'detomaso detomaso' <detomaso@server.detomasolist<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist>.
com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: [SDP] Re: 2017
POCA Fun Rally
Yeah Yeah Yeah, You just can^1t get
anywhere without a traffic snarl
and
waiting in a line.
On 10/11/16, 11:49 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf
of Effie Richards"
<detomaso-bounces@server.
detomasolist.com<http://detomasolist.com>
on behalf of
erichards@zogob.sdcoxmail<mailto:erichards@zogob.sdcoxmail>.
com>
wrote:
...
Of course any season or month is good
in San Diego!...   Got you!
...
...
-----Original Message-----
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From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.
com]
...
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 11:06
AM
...
To: bill@incendium.com<mailto:bill@incendium.com>
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Cc: Effie Richards; detomaso detomaso
...
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: [SDP] Re:
2017 POCA Fun Rally
...
...
A lot depends on location selected,
Las Vegas is a bear in May or
June,
...
other venues e.g. Reno have a good
chance of snow prior to June. Then
...
there
...
is the whole accessibility for driving
with weather.
...
...
I would recommend dates be left open
for the proposing chapter to
select,
...
that way they can also avoid (or take
advantage of) any conflicts to
other
...
local events.
...
...
Julian
...
...
...
On Oct 11, 2016, at 10:57 AM, "bill@incendium.com<mailto:bill@incendium.com>"
<bill@incendium.com<mailto:bill@incendium.com>>
...
wrote:
...
...
...
...
How about mid
May or even June.
...
...
...
...
Cheers
...
...
...
...
Bill Moore
...
...
...
...
Calgary
...
...
...
...
--------
Original message --------
...
...
From: Effie
Richards <erichards@zogob.sdcoxmail.com<mailto:erichards@zogob.sdcoxmail.com>
...
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...
Date: 2016-10-11
11:10 AM (GMT-07:00)
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To: detomaso
detomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist>.
com>
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Subject:
[DeTomaso] FW: [SDP] Re: 2017 POCA Fun Rally
...
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-----Original
Message-----
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From: sdpanteras@googlegroups.com<mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:sdpanteras@
googlegroups.com<http://googlegroups.com>]
...
...
On Behalf Of
Effie Richards
...
...
Sent: Tuesday,
October 11, 2016 10:05 AM
...
...
To: 'Ed Mendez';
'marshall smith'
...
...
Cc: 'De Tomaso
List'; 'Jack DeRyke';
'Detomaso@poca';
'Leslie
Gray';
...
...
'Mike Haney';
'Judy McCartney'; 'Bob Reid'; 'Bob
Reid'; 'Scott
...
...
Couchman';
'Josette D'Orazio'; 'Reno-Tahoe
Panteras'; 'San Diego
...
...
Panteras'
...
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Subject: RE:
[SDP] Re: 2017 POCA Fun Rally
...
...
Here I come
again!....
...
...
Ed, I hope you
are not expecting Marshall to put a bid in...  not
...
...
after
...
...
our experience
of 2014!
...
...
By the way, no
one from POCA had the curtesy of responding to my
...
...
question "why
POCA did not support SDP club hosting the 2014 rally
and
...
...
instead,
sabotaged our efforts and totally ignored our pleas for
...
...
support"?
Someone or someones were behind this "coup"
and no
one
...
...
will ever have
the nerve or class to even apologize without
admitting
...
...
guilt, just like
our politicians!
...
...
I really don't
expect to get an answer from the POCA board, but I
do
...
...
want everyone on
the list to know, although our club worked twice
x
...
...
twice as hard to
successfully host such an awesome event, we had
to
...
...
double and
triple our work in order to compensate for the luck of
...
...
support from
POCA.
...
...
Our love and
passion for the car may take over our brain and lead
us
...
...
back to another
rally, but believe me, we know who our friends are
...
...
these days.
...
...
-----Original
Message-----
...
...
From: sdpanteras@googlegroups.com<mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:sdpanteras@
googlegroups.com<http://googlegroups.com>]
...
...
On Behalf Of Ed
Mendez
...
...
Sent: Tuesday,
October 11, 2016 9:46 AM
...
...
To: marshall
smith
...
...
Cc: De Tomaso
List; Jack DeRyke; Detomaso@poca; Leslie
Gray; Mike
...
...
Haney; Judy
McCartney; Bob Reid; Bob Reid; Scott Couchman; Josette
...
...
D'Orazio;
Reno-Tahoe Panteras; San Diego Panteras
...
...
Subject: [SDP]
Re: 2017 POCA Fun Rally
...
...
We are shooting
for April 26-30th, 2017
...
...
All chapters
should put in their bids to host as a location has
not
...
...
been agreed upon
yet.
...
...
I am even
working on alternatives.
...
...
Ed
...
...
Sent from my
iPhone 6 Plus
...
...
...
On Oct 11, 2016, at 09:37,
marshall smith
...
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<marshallgsmith@
sbcglobal.net<http://sbcglobal.net>>
wrote:
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To POCA Board of Directors,
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Is there any information on
the dates and location of the POCA Fun
...
...
Rally in 2017?
...
...
...
I heard a rumor that we would
be heading back to Las Vegas and the
...
...
Plaza Hotel. Is
that correct?
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Marshall Smith
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San Diego Panteras
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On Oct 11, 2016, at 1:52 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso
   <[5]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
Well, the cargo box is 121 ft long and we could fit two rows of cars.
   Assume a length of 15 feet (allowing some space between cars) that
   means two rows of eight for a total of 16 cars. But that would leave a
   lot of unused vertical space. If some sort of racking system was used
   conceivably we could fit 32 of them.
Not gonna happen...:)
Mike
Sent from my iPad
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On Oct 11, 2016, at 1:01 PM, marshall smith
   <[6]marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Hmmm....how many Panteras will fit in a C5-B Galaxy??
m
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On Tue, 10/11/16, Charles McCall <[7]charlesmccall@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: [SDP] Re: 2017 POCA Fun Rally
To: "marshall smith" <[8]marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.net>
Cc: "Larry Stock" <[9]larrys@panteraparts.com>, "Effie Richards"
   <[10]erichards@zogob.sdcoxmail.com>, "Julian Kift"
   <[11]julian_kift@hotmail.com>, "[12]bill@incendium.com"
   <[13]bill@incendium.com>, "detomaso detomaso"
   <[14]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>
Date: Tuesday, October 11, 2016, 12:58 PM
Put your
cars in a container and send them to Europe! What a road
trip!
(am I
helping?)
On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at
9:57 PM, marshall smith <[15]marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
I LOVED
Reno!! That town rolled out the welcome mat to all of us!
Let's go again!!!
Marshall Smith
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On Tue, 10/11/16, [16]bill@incendium.com
<[17]bill@incendium.com>
wrote:
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: [SDP] Re: 2017 POCA Fun
Rally
To: "Larry Stock" <[18]larrys@panteraparts.com>,
"Effie Richards" <[19]erichards@zogob.sdcoxmail.com
...
, "'Julian Kift'" <[20]julian_kift@hotmail.com>
Cc: "'detomaso detomaso'" <[21]detomaso@server.detomasolist.
com>
Date: Tuesday, October 11, 2016, 12:55 PM
RENO , RENO, RENO
Cheers
Bill Moore
Calgary
-------- Original message --------
From: Larry Stock <[22]larrys@panteraparts.com>
Date: 2016-10-11 1:09 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: Effie Richards <[23]erichards@zogob.sdcoxmail.com
...
,
'Julian Kift'
<[24]julian_kift@hotmail.com>,
[25]bill@incendium.com
Cc: 'detomaso detomaso' <[26]detomaso@server.detomasolist.
com>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: [SDP] Re: 2017
POCA Fun Rally
Yeah Yeah Yeah, You just can^1t get
anywhere without a traffic snarl
and
waiting in a line.
On 10/11/16, 11:49 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf
of Effie Richards"
<detomaso-bounces@server.
[27]detomasolist.com
on behalf of
[28]erichards@zogob.sdcoxmail.
com>
wrote:
...
Of course any season or month is good
in San Diego!...   Got you!
...
...
-----Original Message-----
...
From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.
com]
...
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 11:06
AM
...
To: [29]bill@incendium.com
...
Cc: Effie Richards; detomaso detomaso
...
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: [SDP] Re:
2017 POCA Fun Rally
...
...
A lot depends on location selected,
Las Vegas is a bear in May or
June,
...
other venues e.g. Reno have a good
chance of snow prior to June. Then
...
there
...
is the whole accessibility for driving
with weather.
...
...
I would recommend dates be left open
for the proposing chapter to
select,
...
that way they can also avoid (or take
advantage of) any conflicts to
other
...
local events.
...
...
Julian
...
...
...
On Oct 11, 2016, at 10:57 AM, "[30]bill@incendium.com"
<[31]bill@incendium.com>
...
wrote:
...
...
...
...
How about mid
May or even June.
...
...
...
...
Cheers
...
...
...
...
Bill Moore
...
...
...
...
Calgary
...
...
...
...
--------
Original message --------
...
...
From: Effie
Richards <[32]erichards@zogob.sdcoxmail.com
...
...
...
Date: 2016-10-11
11:10 AM (GMT-07:00)
...
...
To: detomaso
detomaso <[33]detomaso@server.detomasolist.
com>
...
...
Subject:
[DeTomaso] FW: [SDP] Re: 2017 POCA Fun Rally
...
...
...
...
-----Original
Message-----
...
...
From: [34]sdpanteras@googlegroups.com
[mailto:sdpanteras@
[35]googlegroups.com]
...
...
On Behalf Of
Effie Richards
...
...
Sent: Tuesday,
October 11, 2016 10:05 AM
...
...
To: 'Ed Mendez';
'marshall smith'
...
...
Cc: 'De Tomaso
List'; 'Jack DeRyke';
'Detomaso@poca';
'Leslie
Gray';
...
...
'Mike Haney';
'Judy McCartney'; 'Bob Reid'; 'Bob
Reid'; 'Scott
...
...
Couchman';
'Josette D'Orazio'; 'Reno-Tahoe
Panteras'; 'San Diego
...
...
Panteras'
...
...
Subject: RE:
[SDP] Re: 2017 POCA Fun Rally
...
...
Here I come
again!....
...
...
Ed, I hope you
are not expecting Marshall to put a bid in...  not
...
...
after
...
...
our experience
of 2014!
...
...
By the way, no
one from POCA had the curtesy of responding to my
...
...
question "why
POCA did not support SDP club hosting the 2014 rally
and
...
...
instead,
sabotaged our efforts and totally ignored our pleas for
...
...
support"?
Someone or someones were behind this "coup"
and no
one
...
...
will ever have
the nerve or class to even apologize without
admitting
...
...
guilt, just like
our politicians!
...
...
I really don't
expect to get an answer from the POCA board, but I
do
...
...
want everyone on
the list to know, although our club worked twice
x
...
...
twice as hard to
successfully host such an awesome event, we had
to
...
...
double and
triple our work in order to compensate for the luck of
...
...
support from
POCA.
...
...
Our love and
passion for the car may take over our brain and lead
us
...
...
back to another
rally, but believe me, we know who our friends are
...
...
these days.
...
...
-----Original
Message-----
...
...
From: [36]sdpanteras@googlegroups.com
[mailto:sdpanteras@
[37]googlegroups.com]
...
...
On Behalf Of Ed
Mendez
...
...
Sent: Tuesday,
October 11, 2016 9:46 AM
...
...
To: marshall
smith
...
...
Cc: De Tomaso
List; Jack DeRyke; Detomaso@poca; Leslie
Gray; Mike
...
...
Haney; Judy
McCartney; Bob Reid; Bob Reid; Scott Couchman; Josette
...
...
D'Orazio;
Reno-Tahoe Panteras; San Diego Panteras
...
...
Subject: [SDP]
Re: 2017 POCA Fun Rally
...
...
We are shooting
for April 26-30th, 2017
...
...
All chapters
should put in their bids to host as a location has
not
...
...
been agreed upon
yet.
...
...
I am even
working on alternatives.
...
...
Ed
...
...
Sent from my
iPhone 6 Plus
...
...
...
On Oct 11, 2016, at 09:37,
marshall smith
...
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Is there any information on
the dates and location of the POCA Fun
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I heard a rumor that we would
be heading back to Las Vegas and the
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   Well that puts Reno out of contention then. Reno-Fernley Raceway has
   been reclaimed by the sagebrush.

   Julian

   On Oct 11, 2016, at 2:56 PM, bill <[1]bill@incendium.com> wrote:

   Any and all rallies should always include at least one or two track
   days.
   Cheers
   Bill Moore
   Calgary
   -------- Original message --------
   From: Julian Kift <[2]julian_kift@hotmail.com>
   Date: 2016-10-11 3:03 PM (GMT-07:00)
   To: Mike Drew <[3]MikeLDrew@aol.com>
   Cc: detomaso detomaso <[4]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] FW: [SDP] Re: 2017 POCA Fun Rally
   What, not even if we paint them camo and give it some covert operation
   name ;)
   I have to wonder what the theoretical cost per car would work out to
   be!
   Julian
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