
As for stealing the car at first I would have agreed but the extent of rust and previous body damage was very significant - it looked liked every corner had been hit and patched with mounds of bondo - a great car this wasn't - they did a great job fixing it - I hate to imagine what you would have to pay to get that done- when that cost is factored in they may have paid too much. On Monday, September 19, 2016, <shawkins777@comcast.net> wrote:
They said they would be going thru the motor before installing it. Steve __________________________________________________________________
In my 30 years of Pantera ownership and reading any Pantera related material I could get my hands on, I have never seen these pictures before. Thanks for sharing
Tom 5186
-----Original Message----- From: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf@embarqmail.com <javascript:;>> To: 'Pantera Mail List' <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <javascript:;>> Sent: Wed, Sep 14, 2016 3:12 pm Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
During the design stage, air flow to the engine was considered.
I read there was a concern about having an air exit similar to the Mangusta because it would "frost over" and block flow
cid:image001.png@01D18958.40377A40
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Since there is no real air flow around where they placed the After Cooler, Maybe the air scoop is to create air flow to the after cooler and NOT the engine, I would simply use electric fans for this, but
From: "John Zeedick" <Pantera351C@Hotmail.com> To: "Tom Shinrock" <tmshinro@aol.com <javascript:;>>, byrdjf@embarqmail.com <javascript:;>, detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <javascript:;> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:34:49 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud I think what amazes me the most is that they are stuffing in an engine with 130K miles in it. To me that makes the car almost worthless, except for a project to return it to "Pantera Normal". It seems to me they have no plans to rebuild the motor therefore making it a Pantera wth 130K on the ticker. Now if it was a band new V6 Twin Turbo that might be a different storyAA .. I agreeAA they stole it from the lady who was selling it I think they might have failed to do their homework on this one, there are twin turbo cats out there and lets not forget the Ferrari 288 GTO one quick look at these cars would have made the job very A^3easyA^2 JohnA^2Not to thrilled with the idea but at least it is a Ford MotorA^2Z On 9/14/16, 9:33 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Tom Shinrock via DeTomaso" <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com <javascript:;> on behalf of detomaso@server.detomasolist.com <javascript:;>> wrote: they
ARE the Texas TV Experts, and I guess that^1s the way its done in Texas. Maybe our Pantera Boys in Texas need to give them some help here. Since they also eliminated the trunk storage area, they must not see the need get out much.
Larry
On 9/14/16, 12:00 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Ken Green via DeTomaso"
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Getting cool air to the engine seems to be a difficult issue for a
Pantera if you don't want to alter the looks. Has anyone seen a
solution that doesn't look like an after thought?
Ken
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Here is a pic from FB.
Ron
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The scoop looks like it feeds the ZF.. Fugly Bill 1362
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All,
I am resending this screen capture from last nightas show, as my
previous post seems to have lost its subject line.
Please don't shoot the messenger.
Since Richard liked the Nike interior disaster on the Ring Brothers
hack-job (at least enough to buy the thing), I imagine they will F-up
the interior of this Pantera to match their exterior disfigurement.
Larry
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As for stealing the car at first I would have agreed but the extent of rust and previous body damage was very significant - it looked liked every corner had been hit and patched with mounds of bondo - a great car this wasn't -A they did a great job fixing itA - I hate to imagine what you would have to pay to get that done- when that cost is factored in they may have paid too much. On Monday, September 19, 2016, <[1]shawkins777@comcast.net> wrote: A A They said they would be going thru the motor before installing it. A A Steve A A A ____________________________________________________________ ______ A A From: "John Zeedick" <Pantera351C@Hotmail.com> A A To: "Tom Shinrock" <[2]tmshinro@aol.com>, [3]byrdjf@embarqmail.com, A A [4]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com A A Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:34:49 PM A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud A A I think what amazes me the most is that they are stuffing in an engine A A with 130K miles in it. To me that makes the car almost worthless, A A except A A for a project to return it to "Pantera Normal". It seems to me they A A have A A no plans to rebuild the motor therefore making it a Pantera wth 130K on A A the ticker. Now if it was a band new V6 Twin Turbo that might be a A A different storyAA .. A A I agreeAA they stole it from the lady who was selling it A A I think they might have failed to do their homework on this one, there A A are A A twin turbo cats out there and lets not forget the Ferrari 288 GTO one A A quick look at these cars would have made the job very A^3easyA^2 A A JohnA^2Not to thrilled with the idea but at least it is a Ford A A MotorA^2Z A A On 9/14/16, 9:33 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Tom Shinrock via DeTomaso" A A <[5]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com on behalf of A A [6]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote: A A >In my 30 years of Pantera ownership and reading any Pantera related A A >material I could get my hands on, I have never seen these pictures A A >before.A Thanks for sharing A A > A A > A A >Tom A A >5186 A A > A A > A A > A A >-----Original Message----- A A >From: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <[7]byrdjf@embarqmail.com> A A >To: 'Pantera Mail List' <[8]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> A A >Sent: Wed, Sep 14, 2016 3:12 pm A A >Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud A A > A A >During the design stage, air flow to the engine was considered. A A > A A >A A I read there was a concern about having an air exit similar to the A A >A A Mangusta because it would "frost over" and block flow A A > A A > A A > A A >A A cid:image001.png@01D18958.40377A40 A A > A A > A A >A A -----Original Message----- A A >A A From: DeTomaso [mailto:[9]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On A A >A A Behalf Of Larry Stock A A >A A Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 15:22 PM A A >A A To: Ken Green; [10]rfmccall@comcast.net; gaino, bill A A >A A Cc: Email List Address For Posting; Larry Finch A A >A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud A A > A A > A A >A A Since there is no real air flow around where they placed the After A A >A A Cooler, Maybe the air scoop is to create air flow to the after A A cooler A A >A A and NOT the engine, I would simply use electric fans for this, but A A they A A >A A ARE the Texas TV Experts, and I guess that^1s the way its done in A A >A A Texas. Maybe our Pantera Boys in Texas need to give them some help A A >A A here. Since they also eliminated the trunk storage area, they must A A not A A >A A see the need get out much. A A > A A >A A Larry A A > A A > A A >A A On 9/14/16, 12:00 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Ken Green via A A DeTomaso" A A > A A >A A <[1][11]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com on behalf of A A >A A [12]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote: A A > A A > A A >A A >A A Getting cool air to the engine seems to be a difficult issue A A for a A A > A A >A A >A A Pantera if you don't want to alter the looks.A Has anyone seen A A a A A > A A >A A >A A solution that doesn't look like an after thought? A A > A A >A A >A A Ken A A > A A >A A > A A >A A ______________________________ ____________________________________ A A > A A >A A > A A > A A >A A >A A From: "[2][13]rfmccall@comcast.net" <[3][14]rfmccall@comcast.net> A A > A A >A A >A A To: "gaino, bill" <[4][15]gaino@earthlink.net> A A > A A >A A >A A Cc: Email List Address For Posting A A >A A <[5][16]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>; A A > A A >A A >A A Larry Finch <[6][17]fresnofinches@aol.com> A A > A A >A A >A A Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:12 AM A A > A A >A A >A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud A A > A A >A A >A A Here is a pic from FB. A A > A A >A A >A A Ron A A > A A >A A >A A ----- Original Message ----- A A > A A >A A >A A From: "bill gaino" <[1][7][18]gaino@earthlink.net> A A > A A >A A >A A To: "Larry Finch" <[2][8][19]fresnofinches@aol.com>, "Email List A A >A A Address For A A > A A >A A >A A Posting" <[3][9][20]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> A A > A A >A A >A A Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 1:41:18 PM A A > A A >A A >A A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud A A > A A > >A A The scoop looks like it feeds the ZF.. 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