Scott, All in jest my friend, each to his own and your car looks great from the photos I have seen. It seems that GM finally recognize where the engine should be in a sports car and the 2017 Corvette will be mid engine. I for one a glad that at least one vendor got something positive out of the show! As for track, I gave up running street cars on track and went to open wheel formula. I'm not the purist you might think, it is only at tabletop design stage, but I'm looking to stuff a Mercedes V12 in my '74 Pantera, there that should take the heat off you for a while on here..... Julian ________________________________ From: Scott Bell <scott@saccrestorations.net> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:42 AM To: 'Julian Kift'; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Come on Julian!!! Play nice… Come on out to Willow Springs in a couple of weeks. I will be there with my Pantera. It is finished with a new exhaust. Something a bit different than what others have done. I know doing something different is a no-no for a lot of folks on this list. But, I get enough support from most people to make it easy to sleep at night! From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:33 AM To: Scott Bell; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Hahaha, OMG people are starting to take stuff written on the email list seriously..... After all it's not like they put a friggin' Chebbie in it! [??] Julian ________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Scott Bell <scott@saccrestorations.net<mailto:scott@saccrestorations.net>> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:00 AM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud OMG PEOPLE!!!! It's a TV show! Do you believe everything you see on TV, on a REALITY SHOW! A lot of what you see is produced, ie: They planned to do that seen for the shock value. To set the record straight, the build was started MARCH 2016. I supplied many parts to the build during that timeframe. I was really hoping that this group would act like adults and not-bash the hell out of the car, like most of you did to the Ring Brothers car. We get it, if there are many changes that are out of the ordinary, you aren't going to like it. But that is what these shows do! Get over it... -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Jack Donahue Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 10:50 PM To: Mike Drew Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Yeah - nice guys. They take the lady’s car down the street and do burn-outs in it before buying it. A…holes!! I guess it’s “no-sale — AFTER - they break it.
On Sep 12, 2016, at 10:41 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:
Julian, remember our friend Simon Velsmin holland was in negotiations to buy the Foose Pantera (a direct copy of the Alfa Romeo Carabo show car) when it got snatched out from under him by Richard Rawlings. That was last year sometime.
He shamellely stole that white Pantera from the widow in San Diego. It was worth double what he paid her for it. Too bad she wasn't connected in any way with the San Diego club; they would have looked out former and protected her from getting ripped off.
Sigh.....
Mike
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On Monday, September 12, 2016, Julian Kift <julian_kift@hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com>> wrote:
I wondered when this was actually filmed? Richard was talking $30-35K being a high for Pantera's and I remember list discussion on Sam Foose's Dia Kosa being for sale in FL at least a couple years back. So I looked up Barret Jackson east coast and their inaugural east coast auction was June 2016, so I guess it was filmed fairly recent, that said I'm surprised at the $28,500 price paid.
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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Mark H Gmail <sennamick@gmail.com<mailto:sennamick@gmail.com>> Sent: M onday, September 12, 2016 9:03 PM To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. Cc: Pantera Mail List Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
San Diego owner per the show. No name mentioned but owner (husband, deceased) had it a long time according to seller (his widow). If the show is to be believed the lady sold it to Richard for $28,500 I think it was. Pretty cheeep!
Mark 12, 2016, at 11:11 PM, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf@embarqmail.com<mailto:byrdjf@embarqmail.com>> wrote:
Was this car known? I missed the Owners name. Joe/nc
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It shows as 8:00pm - 9:00pm on my guide -- Directv, channel 278 (DSCHD) mike
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On Sep 12, 2016, at 10:41 PM, Mike Drew via DeTomaso <[6]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
Julian, remember our friend Simon Velsmin holland was in negotiations to buy the Foose Pantera (a direct copy of the Alfa Romeo Carabo show car) when it got snatched out from under him by Richard Rawlings. That was last year sometime.
He shamellely stole that white Pantera from the widow in San Diego. It was worth double what he paid her for it. Too bad she wasn't connected in any way with the San Diego club; they would have looked out former and protected her from getting ripped off.
Sigh.....
Mike
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On Monday, September 12, 2016, Julian Kift <[7]julian_kift@hotmail.com> wrote:
I wondered when this was actually filmed? Richard was talking $30-35K being a high for Pantera's and I remember list discussion on Sam Foose's Dia Kosa being for sale in FL at least a couple years back. So I looked up Barret Jackson east coast and their inaugural east coast auction was June 2016, so I guess it was filmed fairly recent, that said I'm surprised at the $28,500 price paid.
Julian __________________________________________________________________
From: DeTomaso <[8]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Mark H Gmail <[9]sennamick@gmail.com> Sent: M onday, September 12, 2016 9:03 PM To: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. Cc: Pantera Mail List Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
San Diego owner per the show. No name mentioned but owner (husband, deceased) had it a long time according to seller (his widow). If the show is to be believed the lady sold it to Richard for $28,500 I think it was. Pretty cheeep!
Mark 12, 2016, at 11:11 PM, Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <[10]byrdjf@embarqmail.com> wrote:
Was this car known? I missed the Owners name. Joe/nc
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It shows as 8:00pm - 9:00pm on my guide -- Directv, channel 278 (DSCHD) mike
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They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com> http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. Scott, All in jest my friend, each to his own and your car looks great from the photos I have seen. It seems that GM finally recognize where the engine should be in a sports car and the 2017 Corvette will be mid engine. I for one a glad that at least one vendor got something positive out of the show! As for track, I gave up running street cars on track and went to open wheel formula. I'm not the purist you might think, it is only at tabletop design stage, but I'm looking to stuff a Mercedes V12 in my '74 Pantera, there that should take the heat off you for a while on here..... Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: Scott Bell <scott@saccrestorations.net> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:42 AM To: 'Julian Kift'; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Come on Julian!!! Play nice... Come on out to Willow Springs in a couple of weeks. I will be there with my Pantera. It is finished with a new exhaust. Something a bit different than what others have done. I know doing something different is a no-no for a lot of folks on this list. But, I get enough support from most people to make it easy to sleep at night! From: Julian Kift [mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:33 AM To: Scott Bell; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud Hahaha, OMG people are starting to take stuff written on the email list seriously..... After all it's not like they put a friggin' Chebbie in it! �� Julian _____________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso <[1]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Scott Bell <[2]scott@saccrestorations.net> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 10:00 AM To: [3]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud OMG PEOPLE!!!! It's a TV show! Do you believe everything you see on TV, on a REALITY SHOW! A lot of what you see is produced, ie: They planned to do that seen for the shock value. To set the record straight, the build was started MARCH 2016. I supplied many parts to the build during that timeframe. 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