Ed et al, What I don't see mentioned in your summary of the BOD meeting is who the club's printer will be. Will you return to the former printer? The consideration of a printer change was the motivating rationale for Jack DeRyke and Mike Haney's resignation. As they both will be returning to their positions does that mean the club will be returning to the use of their former printer? Or will the plan to proceed to the new printer with ALL COLOR publications for $8,000. less per year continue? I'm sure we all wish the BOD to always entertain the BEST quote and now we know it is possible for the club to save $8,000. a year for ALL COLOR in BOTH publications. Laurie's <OO> eyes are watching! -----Original Message----- From: detomaso-request <detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com> To: detomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Sat, Aug 13, 2016 9:00 am Subject: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17 Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to detomaso@server.detomasolist.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com You can reach the person managing the list at detomaso-owner@server.detomasolist.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." Daily Detomaso List Digest Today's Topics: 1. Re: Anybody know why the POCA general meeting last night did not occur? (James coyne) 2. Re: Anybody know why the POCA general meeting last night did not occur? (The DeTomaso Registry Guy) 3. Re: Anybody know why the POCA general meeting last night did not occur? (marshall smith) 4. Re: [SDP] The Wash Crew - the Pantera commercial (Ed Mendez) 5. For Sale: Intake and Carb for Cleveland 351. (Fred Sweeney) 6. Matra Djet (Rod Kunishige) 7. Re: The Wash Crew - the Pantera commercial (Scott Couchman) 8. Re: For Sale: Intake and Carb for Cleveland 351. (Dave Londry) 9. Re: [SDP] The Wash Crew - the Pantera commercial (Ed Mendez) 10. Re: [SDP] Re: The Wash Crew - the Pantera commercial (Effie Richards) 11. Re: Anybody know why the POCA general meeting last night did not occur? (Effie Richards) 12. Re: The Wash Crew - the Pantera commercial (bill@incendium.com) 13. Fwd: Your Digital Pocket Guide to Monterey - Presented by Sports Car Market and Passport Transport (Mike Drew) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 16:10:55 +0000 From: James coyne <tecnosound@hotmail.com> To: Rob Dumoulin <rob@dumoulins.net>, Roland <willibillie@live.de>, "Pantera Mail List" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anybody know why the POCA general meeting last night did not occur? Message-ID: <SN1PR13MB0335054A8A13D02A22804171DF1F0@SN1PR13MB0335.namprd13.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I totally agree Rob . Very well stated . ________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Rob Dumoulin <rob@dumoulins.net> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 4:12 AM To: Roland; Pantera Mail List Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anybody know why the POCA general meeting last night did not occur? Roland, since even before MS was elected, he has been threatening members with lawsuits apparently as a form of intimidation. His recent comments directly state he intends to destroy POCA as an organization, I assume for his own pleasure or personal gain. I was not present on the call and did not hear the context of such a ban, but if any one person's actions were to not warrant such an outcome of being banned, what other behavior would have to take place before it would reach that level? That is an open question for everybody to decide personally. Is it more civil to degrade and intimidate in order to get others to quit or to set standards for expected behavior and let those standards apply to all members? The third option is to allow toxic behavior to fracture the club which is what has been happening the past 7 months. MS added me to his list of people to sue along the way as I was called a "Backstabbing Motherf$!@er". I can live with those petty threats, I just choose not to. Setting standards of decency that do not allow bullying and threats seems like a good idea to me, but I am just one opinion. On Aug 12, 2016 3:59 AM, "Roland" <willibillie@live.de> wrote:
First of all, i don't like the actions MS did ! But banning MS for life? Isn't banning for life a relict from the dark
age? What about his supporters? Send them out with a sign "I'm guilty" ? MS was voted by many for his promisises making Poca great again ( didn't i hear this very often lataly) What about his voters? Are they ashamed, for what he has done? No ! I haven't heard of one !
Roland
Am 11.08.2016 um 22:42 schrieb Ed Mendez <edducati@mac.com>:
He should have used PST, because Joe lives in AZ where they have no DST. At the moment AZ time and CA time are the same.
Sorry
It lasted until 7.58, but it was a great meeting, it was so much less tense. In a nutshell. Bob publicly announced and made a commitment that we will not be returning to pre-2016 BOD ways, keeping all the MS changes, keeping finances and BOD meetings open, etc. Waiting 1 week on Mike Burnett for a decision on his VP position Board appointments: Les is Past President Mike H is Profiles Jack D is Newsletter Josette is Store manager (non-board) Talked about the store and the website Talked about banning MS for life. Ed
Ed et al, What I don't see mentioned in your summary of the BOD meeting is who the club's printer will be. Will you return to the former printer? The consideration of a printer change was the motivating rationale for Jack DeRyke and Mike Haney's resignation. As they both will be returning to their positions does that mean the club will be returning to the use of their former printer? Or will the plan to proceed to the new printer with ALL COLOR publications for $8,000. less per year continue? I'm sure we all wish the BOD to always entertain the BEST quote and now we know it is possible for the club to save $8,000. a year for ALL COLOR in BOTH publications. Laurie's <OO> eyes are watching! -----Original Message----- From: detomaso-request <detomaso-request@server.detomasolist.com> To: detomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Sat, Aug 13, 2016 9:00 am Subject: DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17 Send DeTomaso mailing list submissions to [1]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit [2]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to detomaso-[3]request@server.detomasolist.com You can reach the person managing the list at detomaso-[4]owner@server.detomasolist.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of DeTomaso digest..." Daily Detomaso List Digest Today's Topics: 1. Re: Anybody know why the POCA general meeting last night did not occur? (James coyne) 2. Re: Anybody know why the POCA general meeting last night did not occur? (The DeTomaso Registry Guy) 3. Re: Anybody know why the POCA general meeting last night did not occur? (marshall smith) 4. Re: [SDP] The Wash Crew - the Pantera commercial (Ed Mendez) 5. For Sale: Intake and Carb for Cleveland 351. (Fred Sweeney) 6. Matra Djet (Rod Kunishige) 7. Re: The Wash Crew - the Pantera commercial (Scott Couchman) 8. Re: For Sale: Intake and Carb for Cleveland 351. (Dave Londry) 9. Re: [SDP] The Wash Crew - the Pantera commercial (Ed Mendez) 10. Re: [SDP] Re: The Wash Crew - the Pantera commercial (Effie Richards) 11. Re: Anybody know why the POCA general meeting last night did not occur? (Effie Richards) 12. Re: The Wash Crew - the Pantera commercial ([5]bill@incendium.com) 13. Fwd: Your Digital Pocket Guide to Monterey - Presented by Sports Car Market and Passport Transport (Mike Drew) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 16:10:55 +0000 From: James coyne <[6]tecnosound@hotmail.com> To: Rob Dumoulin <[7]rob@dumoulins.net>, Roland <[8]willibillie@live.de>, "Pantera Mail List" <[9]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anybody know why the POCA general meeting last night did not occur? Message-ID: <[10]SN1PR13MB0335054A8A13D02A22804171DF1F0@SN1PR13MB0335.namprd13.prod .outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I totally agree Rob . Very well stated . ________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-[11]bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Rob Dumoulin <[12]rob@dumoulins.net> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 4:12 AM To: Roland; Pantera Mail List Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Anybody know why the POCA general meeting last night did not occur? Roland, since even before MS was elected, he has been threatening members with lawsuits apparently as a form of intimidation. His recent comments directly state he intends to destroy POCA as an organization, I assume for his own pleasure or personal gain. I was not present on the call and did not hear the context of such a ban, but if any one person's actions were to not warrant such an outcome of being banned, what other behavior would have to take place before it would reach that level? That is an open question for everybody to decide personally. Is it more civil to degrade and intimidate in order to get others to quit or to set standards for expected behavior and let those standards apply to all members? The third option is to allow toxic behavior to fracture the club which is what has been happening the past 7 months. MS added me to his list of people to sue along the way as I was called a "Backstabbing Motherf$!@er". I can live with those petty threats, I just choose not to. Setting standards of decency that do not allow bullying and threats seems like a good idea to me, but I am just one opinion. On Aug 12, 2016 3:59 AM, "Roland" <[13]willibillie@live.de> wrote:
First of all, i don't like the actions MS did ! But banning MS for life? Isn't banning for life a relict from the
dark age? What about his supporters? Send them out with a sign "I'm guilty" ? MS was voted by many for his promisises making Poca great again ( didn't i hear this very often lataly) What about his voters? Are they ashamed, for what he has done? No ! I haven't heard of one !
Roland
Am 11.08.2016 um 22:42 schrieb Ed Mendez <[14]edducati@mac.com>:
He should have used PST, because Joe lives in AZ where they have no DST. At the moment AZ time and CA time are the same.
Sorry
It lasted until 7.58, but it was a great meeting, it was so much
less
tense. In a nutshell. Bob publicly announced and made a commitment that we will not be returning to pre-2016 BOD ways, keeping all the MS changes, keeping finances and BOD meetings open, etc. Waiting 1 week on Mike Burnett for a decision on his VP position Board appointments: Les is Past President Mike H is Profiles Jack D is Newsletter Josette is Store manager (non-board) Talked about the store and the website Talked about banning MS for life. Ed