Dennis, I tried the porterfield pads on my detomaso with wilwood brakes and I had really bad wheel juttering. Make sure you test them thoroughly before possibly taking them to the track for a track day. Jim From: Dennis Valdez via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> To: marshallgsmith <marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.net> Cc: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew@aol.com>; "Pantera List detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 2:05 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Dash warning lights on single pod L models Thanks guys, I have some ideas to try. BTW Mike and Garth, I do have some Porterfield pads waiting for me to install them. Guess it's time... Dennis On Jun 29, 2016, at 9:45 AM, marshallgsmith <[1]marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.net> wrote: This is just a guess but perhaps zip tying the sensor wires to the steel braided brake lines is completing the circuit and lighting the lamp. Marshall Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Dennis Valdez via DeTomaso <[2]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Date: 06/28/2016 7:49 PM (GMT-08:00) To: Mike Drew <[3]MikeLDrew@aol.com>, "Pantera List [4]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[5]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Dash warning lights on single pod L models Thanks Mike, So here is my problem. I changed out my 42 year old rubber brake hoses to the calipers with some flexible stainless from Sac Restorations. Bleed the system with new fluid and everything works great except the pad sensor light now stays on. I was expecting the shuttle valve light might come on from the bleeding process but that did not happen. I did nothing to the calipers and I know the pads (stock) are nearly new from looking at them last year. The sensor wires were zip tied to the old brake lines and I zip tied them to the new lines. I'm wondering if moving them around caused a short or perhaps some how they are shorting on to the new metallic brake lines. I think I'll separate them and look for fraying, move them around a bit and see if the light goes off. Any other Ideas? Thanks, Dennis > On Jun 28, 2016, at 6:49 PM, Mike Drew <[6]MikeLDrew@aol.com> wrote: > > Dennis, > > You got it exactly right! Those two lights cover those three functions. > > Mike > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 28, 2016, at 18:17, Dennis Valdez via DeTomaso <[7]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Folks, >> Got a simple question. What are the two warning lights left of the >> Speedo on the L model? The red owners manual is not clear on this as >> it shows a gauge to the left of the Speedo, and the number call-outs >> are suspect. >> The upper (red) light is for the parking brake and I assume for general >> hydraulic failure in the system. I think the lower one (yellow) is a >> brake wear sensor light. 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They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. Dennis, I tried the porterfield pads on my detomaso with wilwood brakes and I had really bad wheel juttering. Make sure you test them thoroughly before possibly taking them to the track for a track day. Jim __________________________________________________________________ From: Dennis Valdez via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> To: marshallgsmith <marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.net> Cc: Mike Drew <MikeLDrew@aol.com>; "Pantera List detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 2:05 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Dash warning lights on single pod L models Thanks guys, I have some ideas to try. BTW Mike and Garth, I do have some Porterfield pads waiting for me to install them. Guess it's time... Dennis On Jun 29, 2016, at 9:45 AM, marshallgsmith <[1][1]marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.net> wrote: This is just a guess but perhaps zip tying the sensor wires to the steel braided brake lines is completing the circuit and lighting the lamp. Marshall Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Dennis Valdez via DeTomaso <[2][2]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Date: 06/28/2016 7:49 PM (GMT-08:00) To: Mike Drew <[3][3]MikeLDrew@aol.com>, "Pantera List [4][4]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[5][5]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Dash warning lights on single pod L models Thanks Mike, So here is my problem. I changed out my 42 year old rubber brake hoses to the calipers with some flexible stainless from Sac Restorations. Bleed the system with new fluid and everything works great except the pad sensor light now stays on. I was expecting the shuttle valve light might come on from the bleeding process but that did not happen. I did nothing to the calipers and I know the pads (stock) are nearly new from looking at them last year. The sensor wires were zip tied to the old brake lines and I zip tied them to the new lines. I'm wondering if moving them around caused a short or perhaps some how they are shorting on to the new metallic brake lines. I think I'll separate them and look for fraying, move them around a bit and see if the light goes off. Any other Ideas? Thanks, Dennis > On Jun 28, 2016, at 6:49 PM, Mike Drew <[6][6]MikeLDrew@aol.com> wrote: > > Dennis, > > You got it exactly right! Those two lights cover those three functions. > > Mike > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 28, 2016, at 18:17, Dennis Valdez via DeTomaso <[7][7]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Folks, >> Got a simple question. What are the two warning lights left of the >> Speedo on the L model? The red owners manual is not clear on this as >> it shows a gauge to the left of the Speedo, and the number call-outs >> are suspect. >> The upper (red) light is for the parking brake and I assume for general >> hydraulic failure in the system. I think the lower one (yellow) is a >> brake wear sensor light. Anything else that triggers these? >> <FullSizeRender.jpg> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA >> Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes >> DeTomaso mailing list >> [8][8]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com >> [9][9]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso >> >> To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. >> >> Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. 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