Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud

20 Sep 2016

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From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>>
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Date: Monday, September 19, 2016 10:27 PM
To: Ken Green <kenn_green@yahoo.com<mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com>>
Cc: Mike Thomas <mbefthomas@comcast.net<mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net>>, Pantera Mail List <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud

All,

Just saw the second show.

What is hilarious is that they didn't make it a sealed air intake from the roof to the inter cooler. It's basically just a piece of metal tacked to the decklid. These morons didn't even consider that airflow goes from the bottom past the engine and out the top, so their scoop is designed to capture superheated air and duct it to the intercooler!!!!!

They said they thought somebody would pay $200-300k for it. Yet as auction time drew near perhaps they started to realize how dumb they were. They finished it late, understandable enough. They could always have entered it in the next BJ auction? But at the end of the show, there is no talk of that. Instead there is whimpering, saying he has $100k tied up in it and begging somebody to call him and buy it.

Jeff--I dare you to drive down there in your stock-looking white L model, act interested, then ask them what it would take to return it to stock! Tell them as a stock car it might be worth $70-75k but as it stands, all the modifications have hurt the value by the cost it will take to undo them!

It's probably worth $30-40k if the stock engine, and all other parts are included?  :)

I love the brakes though. Nice job with that Scott. :)

I grudgingly admit that the power train swap appears to have been largely successful and it certainly is innovative. I seriously doubt they saved an ounce of weight when you factor in the weight of all the turbos, intercooler, electronics, massive wheels etc so in fact it's probably heavier than stock too.

In the beginning they were claiming 600 hp was the target. Notice how quiet things got at the end? No boasting of big power numbers. You only need 200 hp to do donuts so that doesn't prove anything. It would be interesting to learn what they actually achieved--other than wrecking what would have been a lovely Pantera had it been restored, or even modified to GT5 or GT5-S or something....

Mike

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On Sep 19, 2016, at 17:20, Ken Green via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> wrote:

   Finally watched it.  I think the air scoop for the inter cooler is
   overkill.  The could use an air to water heat exchanger and cycle
   coolant to the nose.
   Ken
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   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud - orange Pantera?
   Did anybody notice in the background early in the episode what looks
   like an orange Pantera in the background?  And what's with the Ferrari
   sitting in a number of shots?
   Mike T.
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   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
   Hi Ron,
   I don't know when the car was purchased but I know the build happened
   in March of 2016. Given that these shows take time to put together, I
   would guess they had the car well before the build started. Good
   observation!
   Scott
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   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
   Something that I found interesting is that while I was watching a
   re-run of what my DVR says is Episode 6/Season 6( which is the first
   part of the Ford GT build) and sure enough, the exact same white '72
   Pantera in in the background in several of the shots. The show made it
   seem like they bought the car and started the build a few weeks later.
   The Ford GT episode aired nearly a year ago so who knows when that
   build was filmed much less how long ago the Pantera was bought. That
   could explain the low purchase price.
   Ron
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   During the design stage, air flow to the engine was considered.
   I read there was a concern about having an air exit similar to the
   Mangusta because it would afrost overa and block flow
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   Behalf Of Larry Stock
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   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
   Since there is no real air flow around where they placed the After
   Cooler, Maybe the air scoop is to create air flow to the after cooler
   and NOT the engine, I would simply use electric fans for this, but they
   ARE the Texas TV Experts, and I guess thatA^1s the way its done in
   Texas. Maybe our Pantera Boys in Texas need to give them some help
   here. Since they also eliminated the trunk storage area, they must not
   see the need get out much.
   Larry
   On 9/14/16, 12:00 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Ken Green via DeTomaso"
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Getting cool air to the engine seems to be a difficult issue for a
Pantera if you don't want to alter the looks.  Has anyone seen a
solution that doesn't look like an after thought?
Ken
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
Here is a pic from FB.
Ron
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The scoop looks like it feeds the ZF.. Fugly  Bill 1362
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Subject: [DeTomaso]  Pantera on Fast & Loud
All,
I am resending this screen capture from last nightas show, as my
previous post seems to have lost its subject line.
Please don't shoot the messenger.
Since Richard liked the Nike interior disaster on the Ring Brothers
hack-job (at least enough to buy the thing), I imagine they will
F-up
the interior of this Pantera to match their exterior disfigurement.
Larry
I am especially enamored with the tasteful deck lid cut-out
necessitated by the taller 3.5L V6.
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   All,
   Just saw the second show.
   What is hilarious is that they didn't make it a sealed air intake from
   the roof to the inter cooler. It's basically just a piece of metal
   tacked to the decklid. These morons didn't even consider that airflow
   goes from the bottom past the engine and out the top, so their scoop is
   designed to capture superheated air and duct it to the intercooler!!!!!
   They said they thought somebody would pay $200-300k for it. Yet as
   auction time drew near perhaps they started to realize how dumb they
   were. They finished it late, understandable enough. They could always
   have entered it in the next BJ auction? But at the end of the show,
   there is no talk of that. Instead there is whimpering, saying he has
   $100k tied up in it and begging somebody to call him and buy it.
   Jeff--I dare you to drive down there in your stock-looking white L
   model, act interested, then ask them what it would take to return it to
   stock! Tell them as a stock car it might be worth $70-75k but as it
   stands, all the modifications have hurt the value by the cost it will
   take to undo them!
   It's probably worth $30-40k if the stock engine, and all other parts
   are included?  :)
   I love the brakes though. Nice job with that Scott. :)
   I grudgingly admit that the power train swap appears to have been
   largely successful and it certainly is innovative. I seriously doubt
   they saved an ounce of weight when you factor in the weight of all the
   turbos, intercooler, electronics, massive wheels etc so in fact it's
   probably heavier than stock too.
   In the beginning they were claiming 600 hp was the target. Notice how
   quiet things got at the end? No boasting of big power numbers. You only
   need 200 hp to do donuts so that doesn't prove anything. It would be
   interesting to learn what they actually achieved--other than wrecking
   what would have been a lovely Pantera had it been restored, or even
   modified to GT5 or GT5-S or something....
   Mike
   Sent from my iPhone
   On Sep 19, 2016, at 17:20, Ken Green via DeTomaso
   <[8]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

      Finally watched it.  I think the air scoop for the inter cooler is

      overkill.  The could use an air to water heat exchanger and cycle

      coolant to the nose.

      Ken

        __________________________________________________________________

      From: Mike Thomas <[9]mbefthomas@comcast.net>

      To: 'Scott Bell' <[10]scott@saccrestorations.net>;
   [11]rfmccall@comcast.net;

      "'Byrd, Joseph'" <[12]byrdjf@embarqmail.com>

      Cc: 'Pantera Mail List' <[13]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>

      Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 5:13 PM

      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud - orange Pantera?

      Did anybody notice in the background early in the episode what looks

      like an orange Pantera in the background?  And what's with the
   Ferrari

      sitting in a number of shots?

      Mike T.

      -----Original Message-----

      From: DeTomaso
   [[14]mailto:[1]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On

      Behalf Of Scott Bell

      Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:18 PM

      To: [2][15]rfmccall@comcast.net; 'Byrd, Joseph'
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      Cc: 'Pantera Mail List' <[4][17]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>

      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud

      Hi Ron,

      I don't know when the car was purchased but I know the build
   happened

      in March of 2016. Given that these shows take time to put together,
   I

      would guess they had the car well before the build started. Good

      observation!

      Scott

      -----Original Message-----

      From: DeTomaso
   [[18]mailto:[5]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On

      Behalf Of [6][19]rfmccall@comcast.net

      Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 6:13 PM

      To: Byrd, Joseph

      Cc: Pantera Mail List

      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud

      Something that I found interesting is that while I was watching a

      re-run of what my DVR says is Episode 6/Season 6( which is the first

      part of the Ford GT build) and sure enough, the exact same white '72

      Pantera in in the background in several of the shots. The show made
   it

      seem like they bought the car and started the build a few weeks
   later.

      The Ford GT episode aired nearly a year ago so who knows when that

      build was filmed much less how long ago the Pantera was bought. That

      could explain the low purchase price.

      Ron

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      From: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <[7][20]byrdjf@embarqmail.com>

      To: "Pantera Mail List" <[8][21]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>

      Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 4:12:31 PM

      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud

      During the design stage, air flow to the engine was considered.

      I read there was a concern about having an air exit similar to the

      Mangusta because it would afrost overa and block flow

      cid:[9][22]image001.png@01D18958.40377A40

      -----Original Message-----

      From: DeTomaso
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      Behalf Of Larry Stock

      Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 15:22 PM

      To: Ken Green; [11][24]rfmccall@comcast.net; gaino, bill

      Cc: Email List Address For Posting; Larry Finch

      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud

      Since there is no real air flow around where they placed the After

      Cooler, Maybe the air scoop is to create air flow to the after
   cooler

      and NOT the engine, I would simply use electric fans for this, but
   they

      ARE the Texas TV Experts, and I guess thatA^1s the way its done in

      Texas. Maybe our Pantera Boys in Texas need to give them some help

      here. Since they also eliminated the trunk storage area, they must
   not

      see the need get out much.

      Larry

      On 9/14/16, 12:00 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Ken Green via DeTomaso"

      <

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      [14][27]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com on behalf of

      [15][28]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote:

   Getting cool air to the engine seems to be a difficult issue for a

   Pantera if you don't want to alter the looks.  Has anyone seen a

   solution that doesn't look like an after thought?

   Ken

      __________________________________________________________________

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   Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:12 AM

   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud

   Here is a pic from FB.

   Ron

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   To: "Larry Finch" <[2] <[41]mailto:[28]fresnofinches@aol.com>

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   Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 1:41:18 PM

   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud

   The scoop looks like it feeds the ZF.. Fugly  Bill 1362

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   All,

   I am resending this screen capture from last nightas show, as my

   previous post seems to have lost its subject line.

   Please don't shoot the messenger.

   Since Richard liked the Nike interior disaster on the Ring Brothers

   hack-job (at least enough to buy the thing), I imagine they will

   F-up

   the interior of this Pantera to match their exterior disfigurement.

   Larry

   I am especially enamored with the tasteful deck lid cut-out

   necessitated by the taller 3.5L V6.

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