OBTW. I not against the POCA dues. I am all in favor of keeping the dues at $75. There are lots of ways of using the clubs money and savings. Everyone would benefit. "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 thimes@jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov> 🇺🇸 From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Mark Charlton <pantera01826@rogers.com<mailto:pantera01826@rogers.com>> Date: Saturday, August 13, 2016 2:49 PM To: "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17 If I was given a vote today, I would elect for printed full-color Profiles and downloadable-only (also color) e-mail delivery Newsletters (as International members have been getting for some time now). I really dislike having to view everything on a computer and/or having to self-print onto loose pages. I wonder how many of us has EVER thrown out an issue of Profiles? Certainly not me. And, as a very distant (from SoCal) POCA member, pretty much the most tangible benefit of my membership has been the printed materials and content of course. I am very happy to see a modern website with the back issues and articles as downloads as well, but if my membership was entirely digital (and more work for me) it would be less attractive to me. Mark Charlton pantera01826@rogers.com<mailto:pantera01826@rogers.com> On Aug 13, 2016, at 5:34 PM, Julian Kift <julian_kift@hotmail.com<mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com>> wrote: The fact that the Profiles and Newsletters are now online (and hopefully at some point searchable for content and articles) I think adds a lot to the argument of paper vs. no paper. I must admit I do like the full color Profiles magazine in paper form in hand, the B&W newsletter would be easy to print articles from as required. As for the trash can all copies of both Profiles and Newsletters are stored on my bookshelf since I joined POCA in 2006. Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Himes, Terry (397C) <terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov>> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 1:51 PM To: Forest Goodhart; Jeff Detrich; laurieferrari@aol.com<mailto:laurieferrari@aol.com> Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17 BUT.... Has there been a poll to determine how many members really still want paper!! I would say they are in the minority. Our POCA membership database (if there is one) should reflect whether a member wants a paper copy of electronic copies. Stop sending out paper products that end up in the trash can 1 day after they arrive. Same Same for the newsletter. Let the members who want paper get them, but don't waste printing and mailing to paper that just will collect dust in a closet and eventually get thrown out.. IMHO. Feel free to flame me. ;-) "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 OBTW. I not against the POCA dues. I am all in favor of keeping the dues at $75. There are lots of ways of using the clubs money and savings. Everyone would benefit. "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 [1]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Mark Charlton <[3]pantera01826@rogers.com> Date: Saturday, August 13, 2016 2:49 PM To: "[4]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[5]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17 If I was given a vote today, I would elect for printed full-color Profiles and downloadable-only (also color) e-mail delivery Newsletters (as International members have been getting for some time now). I really dislike having to view everything on a computer and/or having to self-print onto loose pages. I wonder how many of us has EVER thrown out an issue of Profiles? Certainly not me. And, as a very distant (from SoCal) POCA member, pretty much the most tangible benefit of my membership has been the printed materials and content of course. I am very happy to see a modern website with the back issues and articles as downloads as well, but if my membership was entirely digital (and more work for me) it would be less attractive to me. Mark Charlton [6]pantera01826@rogers.com On Aug 13, 2016, at 5:34 PM, Julian Kift <[7]julian_kift@hotmail.com> wrote: The fact that the Profiles and Newsletters are now online (and hopefully at some point searchable for content and articles) I think adds a lot to the argument of paper vs. no paper. I must admit I do like the full color Profiles magazine in paper form in hand, the B&W newsletter would be easy to print articles from as required. As for the trash can all copies of both Profiles and Newsletters are stored on my bookshelf since I joined POCA in 2006. Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso <[8]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Himes, Terry (397C) <[9]terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 1:51 PM To: Forest Goodhart; Jeff Detrich; [10]laurieferrari@aol.com Cc: [11]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17 BUT.... Has there been a poll to determine how many members really still want paper!! I would say they are in the minority. Our POCA membership database (if there is one) should reflect whether a member wants a paper copy of electronic copies. Stop sending out paper products that end up in the trash can 1 day after they arrive. Same Same for the newsletter. Let the members who want paper get them, but don't waste printing and mailing to paper that just will collect dust in a closet and eventually get thrown out.. IMHO. Feel free to flame me. ;-) "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan, stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell: (818) 653-8213 Fax: (818) 393-3147 References 1. mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov 2. mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 3. mailto:pantera01826@rogers.com 4. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 5. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com 6. mailto:pantera01826@rogers.com 7. mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com 8. mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com 9. mailto:terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov 10. mailto:laurieferrari@aol.com 11. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com