Pretty much correct yes, and I would expect this kind of thing might die down soon. Although this email forum is not controlled by POCA, there are some members who frequent it. Some of those members are long standing contributing people who have been in POCA and a Pantera owner for decades. Some of them have even been past Board members. And unfortunately some of them are not being made to feel as welcome in the club they helped build anymore. Because of this, they are expressing frustration at what appears to be maligning statements directed at them (and at others about them) for barely comprehensible reasons. Since those kinds of communications and forum postings are banned within POCA, these individuals are expressing their confusion and disappointment by highlighting here, the trouble being experienced there. Unfortunately this email forum is their only other outlet to reach others and try to highlight what they (and potentially others) may feel are injustices being served upon them and others. Most of the time they don't need a response as many cases are just venting frustrations; people can make their own judgements and remain silent, or respond privately (with the full understanding that what you say in private may not necessarily remain private). As I said earlier though, I think its about ready to die down and the list should get back to normalcy. Asa Jay Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks Dave <dave@damardirect.com> wrote: So Short's threats of censorship have no relevance to this group, correct? Pretty much correct yes, and I would expect this kind of thing might die down soon. Although this email forum is not controlled by POCA, there are some members who frequent it. Some of those members are long standing contributing people who have been in POCA and a Pantera owner for decades. Some of them have even been past Board members. And unfortunately some of them are not being made to feel as welcome in the club they helped build anymore. Because of this, they are expressing frustration at what appears to be maligning statements directed at them (and at others about them) for barely comprehensible reasons. Since those kinds of communications and forum postings are banned within POCA, these individuals are expressing their confusion and disappointment by highlighting here, the trouble being experienced there. Unfortunately this email forum is their only other outlet to reach others and try to highlight what they (and potentially others) may feel are injustices being served upon them and others. Most of the time they don't need a response as many cases are just venting frustrations; people can make their own judgements and remain silent, or respond privately (with the full understanding that what you say in private may not necessarily remain private). As I said earlier though, I think its about ready to die down and the list should get back to normalcy. Asa Jay Sent using Jedi Mind Tricks Dave <[1]dave@damardirect.com> wrote: So Short's threats of censorship have no relevance to this group, correct? References 1. mailto:dave@damardirect.com