I THINK the only source would be from Marlin Jack -----Original Message----- From: Ed Lyerly [mailto:ed.lyerly@nctv.com] Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 14:12 PM To: 'Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.'; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Thermostat .... visual differenced between Cleveland and. Windsor thermostats Joe, Thank you very much for the pictures and additional info. I am fortunate to have also received similar info in a PM from ken MacArthur. Now I know what I'm looking for and will get one of the Robert Shaw setups. I appreciate your help. --Ed L -----Original Message----- From: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. [mailto:byrdjf@embarqmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 1:51 PM To: 'Ed Lyerly'; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Thermostat .... visual differenced between Cleveland and. Windsor thermostats Here is a photo of the Marlin Jack's thermostat and restrictor. Notice the copper "hat" on the end. Also is a write up I did to compare the bypassing versus radiator flow between the proper thermostat and one that was sold by MS . A pic of the MS wrong stat in the packaging Joe in NC -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Ed Lyerly Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 12:02 PM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Thermostat .... visual differenced between Cleveland and. Windsor thermostats I have read several times of Pantera owners having overheating problems that were at least partially caused by using a Windsor thermostat in the Cleveland Pantera engine. Does anyone have a picture they could share which would allow a visual identification of the differences in these different thermostats? Thanks, --Ed L