What are your thoughts on this: someone mentioned keeping the Profiles in color paper, and doing the Newsletter online and let whomever print out whichever article they wanted to keep. --BILL L ________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Will Kooiman <will.kooiman@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2016 12:10 AM To: Jeff Detrich; Stephen Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; laurieferrari@aol.com; Forest Goodhart Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17 I doubt that it is linear, though. If it costs $24,000 to mail to everyone, it might be $20,000 to mail to 1/2, not $12,000. I¹m not debating numbers. I¹m only saying that the cost benefit analysis needs to be done. Personally, I want paper. I look at a computer terminal all day. I don¹t want to do it again in the evening to read Pantera news. Besides, it helps improve my evening when I get home to a car magazine in the mail. On 8/13/16, 6:26 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Jeff Detrich" <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com on behalf of jjdetrich@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't think anyone ever has suggested that paper versions will not be available to those that want them. But if we can convert 1/2 of the newsletters to paper that would be upwardsof $12,000. Just my 2cents as JDR says. Jeff 6559
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I agree wholeheartedly!A But, if those of us who want the paper lose it, well, I will have just wasted my $75 when I re-upped with the shortt gone. No flaming - but please - don't take my paper away! Stephen Nelson -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Himes, Terry (397C) Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 1:51 PM To: Forest Goodhart <[3]forestg@att.net>; Jeff Detrich <[4]jjdetrich@gmail.com>; [5]laurieferrari@aol.com Cc: [6]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17 BUTa|. Has there been a poll to determine how many members really still want paper!!A A I would say they are in the minority. Our POCA membership database (if there is one) should reflect whether a member wants a paper copy of electronic copies. Stop sending out paper products that end up in the trash can 1 day after they arrive. Same Same for the newsletter.A Let the members who want paper get them, but don't waste printing and mailing to paper that just will collect dust in a closet and eventually get thrown out.. IMHO.A A Feel free to flame me.A A ;-) "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,A stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell:A A A (818) 653-8213 Fax:A A A (818) 393-3147 [7]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:[8]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov> d--od-, From: DeTomaso <[9]detomaso-bounces@server. detomasolist.com<mailto:[10]detomaso-bounces@server. detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Forest Goodhart <[11]forestg@att.net<mailto:[12]forestg@att.net>> Reply-To: Forest Goodhart <[13]forestg@att.net<mailto:[14]forest g@att.net>> Date: Saturday, August 13, 2016 1:33 PM To: Jeff Detrich <[15]jjdetrich@gmail.com<mailto:[16]jj detrich@gmail.com>>, "[17]laurieferrari@aol.com<mailto:[18] laurieferrari@aol.com>" <[19]laurieferrari@aol.com<mailto:[20] laurieferrari@aol.com>> Cc: "[21]detomaso@server.detomasolist. com<mailto:[22]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>" <[23]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[24]detomaso@server. detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17 What you are all missing is that Michael's number of $8,000 is incorrect. He failed to factor in the mailing costs of the profiles. With a true comparison the difference is pennies. A A A From: Jeff Detrich <[25]jjdetrich@gmail.com<mailto:[26]jj detrich@gmail.com>> To: [27]laurieferrari@aol.com<mailto:[28]laurieferrari@aol.com> Cc: [29]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[30]detomaso@server. detomasolist.com> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17 A On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Laurie Ferrari via DeTomaso A <[1][31]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[32]detoma so@server.detomasolist.com>> wrote: A A save $8,000 A Amen! That's not pocket change. It's significant and it works out about A $10 per member. If it was a $1,000 difference, I'd say no big deal to A keep everybody happy. It's just being thrown away right now. A Jeff A 6559 References A 1. mailto:[33]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [34]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[35]DeTomaso@server. detomasolist.com>
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I don't think anyone ever has suggested that paper versions will not be available to those that want them. But if we can convert 1/2 of the newsletters to paper that would be upwardsof $12,000. Just my 2cents as JDR says. Jeff 6559
On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Stephen <[1]steve@snclocks.com> wrote:
I agree wholeheartedly!A But, if those of us who want the paper lose it, well, I will have just wasted my $75 when I re-upped with the shortt gone. No flaming - but please - don't take my paper away! Stephen Nelson -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[1]mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Himes, Terry (397C) Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 1:51 PM To: Forest Goodhart <[3]forestg@att.net>; Jeff Detrich <[4]jjdetrich@gmail.com>; [5]laurieferrari@aol.com Cc: [6]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17 BUTa|. Has there been a poll to determine how many members really still want paper!!A A I would say they are in the minority. Our POCA membership database (if there is one) should reflect whether a member wants a paper copy of electronic copies. Stop sending out paper products that end up in the trash can 1 day after they arrive. Same Same for the newsletter.A Let the members who want paper get them, but don't waste printing and mailing to paper that just will collect dust in a closet and eventually get thrown out.. IMHO.A A Feel free to flame me.A A ;-) "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,A stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!" Terry W. Himes JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory Dawn Spacecraft Team Rosetta Sequence Team Lead Phone: (818) 393-6261 Cell:A A A (818) 653-8213 Fax:A A A (818) 393-3147 [7]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:[8]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov> d--od-, From: DeTomaso <[9]detomaso-bounces@server. detomasolist.com<[2]mailto:[10]detomaso-bounces@server. detomasolist.com>> on behalf of Forest Goodhart <[11]forestg@att.net<mailto:[12]forestg@att.net>> Reply-To: Forest Goodhart <[13]forestg@att.net<mailto:[14]forest g@att.net>> Date: Saturday, August 13, 2016 1:33 PM To: Jeff Detrich <[15]jjdetrich@gmail.com<mailto:[16]jj detrich@gmail.com>>, "[17]laurieferrari@aol.com<mailto:[18] laurieferrari@aol.com>" <[19]laurieferrari@aol.com<mailto:[20] laurieferrari@aol.com>> Cc: "[21]detomaso@server.detomasolist. com<[3]mailto:[22]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>" <[23]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:[24]detomaso@server. detomasolist.com>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17 What you are all missing is that Michael's number of $8,000 is incorrect. He failed to factor in the mailing costs of the
_______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. What are your thoughts on this: someone mentioned keeping the Profiles in color paper, and doing the Newsletter online and let whomever print out whichever article they wanted to keep. --BILL L __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Will Kooiman <will.kooiman@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2016 12:10 AM To: Jeff Detrich; Stephen Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; laurieferrari@aol.com; Forest Goodhart Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest, Vol 146, Issue 17 I doubt that it is linear, though. If it costs $24,000 to mail to everyone, it might be $20,000 to mail to 1/2, not $12,000. I^1m not debating numbers. I^1m only saying that the cost benefit analysis needs to be done. Personally, I want paper. I look at a computer terminal all day. I don^1t want to do it again in the evening to read Pantera news. Besides, it helps improve my evening when I get home to a car magazine in the mail. On 8/13/16, 6:26 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Jeff Detrich" <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com on behalf of jjdetrich@gmail.com> wrote: profiles.
With a true comparison the difference is pennies. A A A From: Jeff Detrich
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