Dave: You mentioned you had an “old-school” radiator guy look at the Hall unit - said it was" good quality and akin to heavy duty construction and earth moving equipment radiators” - SO, I guess by looking at “something" - someone was able to determine all that. Cool. After hearing/reading all the discussion here onThe List, I am going with copper/brass. I Don’t care about the extra weight and I like the repairability and reliability. I also would like a shrouded unit - so I was wondering if the Hall unit can be shrouded(?) If it’s single or double pass? I have a call into Brassworks also. They say they can build one for the Pantera - but will it fit? I will be finding out all this as time rolls along, but all considered brass/copper works for me - and apparently a lot others. Jack #4348
On Aug 10, 2016, at 10:04 AM, Dave <dave@damardirect.com> wrote:
Jack, Several years ago I installed a Hall Brass/Copper unit. Like you I was torn between aluminum and the copper/brass radiators. Weight was not an issue for me. I heard too many stories of non-repairable aluminum radiators. I showed the Hall radiator to an old school radiator shop. They could not get over the quality of the Hall brass/copper radiator. The construction was akin to heavy duty construction and earth moving equipment radiators. My vote is hands down, the Hall radiator. IndyDave
-----Original Message----- From: Ken and Lela MacArthur [mailto:klckmac@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 4:29 PM To: Bill Moore; 'Jack Donahue'; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator Dilemma
Jack,
I received lots of good feedback on radiators recently as you may have seen. I have an older Hall Brass radiator that was in good shape overall in our car which I decided to repair for a couple hundred bucks and add their Mariah fans since mine were stock. Many people like the Hall one. Many liked aluminum, especially the Ron Davis sold by Pantera Performance.
Dennis Quella @ http://panteraperformance.com/ was recommended for a high quality, all tig welded aluminum setup from Ron Davis racing. I was told they do not stock them and they special order them as needed, takes about 3 weeks to a month. I believe his radiator and fans package are around $1600.
Doing some research, I came across Brassworks, haven't heard of anyone but they do reference a Pantera owner on their site. They are kind of expensive, around $1300. There may be other Brass/copper radiators done by others, but I haven't seen any.
Sooo, timing and money were one factor for us, plus our radiator is repairable and works well, will work even better once the fans and correct relays are in. The Hall radiator is around $600 brand new. http://hallpantera.com/
Hope this helps some, good luck.
Ken MacArthur
72L 4443
________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Bill Moore <bill@incendium.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 12:32 PM To: 'Jack Donahue'; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator Dilemma
Hello Jack: What seems to be the problem with your existing setup, you have had it 12 years ?
Cheers:
Please use my bill@incendium.com email address in all messages.
Bill Moore Incendium Supply Ltd. Suite 416, #305-4625 Varsity Drive N.W. Calgary, AB T3A 0Z9 403.202.0055
-----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Jack Donahue Sent: August-09-16 1:23 PM To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Radiator Dilemma
Hey all - I need some good advice on radiators. I currently have a Fluidyne performance unit without a shroud. I've been told that a shroud is a necessity, which I understand. I've had it for about 12 years now - no leaks. The rumblings on The List lean towards a unit by Dennis Quella(?) - don't know the correct spelling or the company, but the last I had read from someone was just to get his radiator and "be done with it". I think it was a double-pass (I guess that's good) - and I assume it's shrouded. Another side of me asks - which is better - copper or aluminum? And Why? I know the copper units are heavier, but I am not concerned about extra weight. I am familiar with the company - Brassworks - they have been at it since the early 1900's. Ken and Lela MacArthur had mentioned Brassworks in July. So - here we go - I know the discussion will generate a fair amount of opinions - which I always welcome, since it will generate more questions too. Looking forward to hearing from all the experts - i know you are out there. jack #4348
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Dave: You mentioned you had an aold-schoola radiator guy look at the Hall unit - said it was" good quality and akin to heavy duty construction and earth moving equipment radiatorsa - SO, I guess by looking at asomething" - someone was able to determine all that. Cool. After hearing/reading all the discussion here onThe List, I am going with copper/brass. I Donat care about the extra weight and I like the repairability and reliability. I also would like a shrouded unit - so I was wondering if the Hall unit can be shrouded(?) If itas single or double pass? I have a call into Brassworks also. They say they can build one for the Pantera - but will it fit? I will be finding out all this as time rolls along, but all considered brass/copper works for me - and apparently a lot others. Jack #4348 On Aug 10, 2016, at 10:04 AM, Dave <[1]dave@damardirect.com> wrote: Jack, Several years ago I installed a Hall Brass/Copper unit. Like you I was torn between aluminum and the copper/brass radiators. Weight was not an issue for me. I heard too many stories of non-repairable aluminum radiators. I showed the Hall radiator to an old school radiator shop. They could not get over the quality of the Hall brass/copper radiator. The construction was akin to heavy duty construction and earth moving equipment radiators. My vote is hands down, the Hall radiator. IndyDave -----Original Message----- From: Ken and Lela MacArthur [[2]mailto:klckmac@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 4:29 PM To: Bill Moore; 'Jack Donahue'; [3]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator Dilemma Jack, I received lots of good feedback on radiators recently as you may have seen. I have an older Hall Brass radiator that was in good shape overall in our car which I decided to repair for a couple hundred bucks and add their Mariah fans since mine were stock. Many people like the Hall one. Many liked aluminum, especially the Ron Davis sold by Pantera Performance. Dennis Quella @ [4]http://panteraperformance.com/ was recommended for a high quality, all tig welded aluminum setup from Ron Davis racing. I was told they do not stock them and they special order them as needed, takes about 3 weeks to a month. I believe his radiator and fans package are around $1600. Doing some research, I came across Brassworks, haven't heard of anyone but they do reference a Pantera owner on their site. They are kind of expensive, around $1300. There may be other Brass/copper radiators done by others, but I haven't seen any. Sooo, timing and money were one factor for us, plus our radiator is repairable and works well, will work even better once the fans and correct relays are in. The Hall radiator is around $600 brand new. [5]http://hallpantera.com/ Hope this helps some, good luck. Ken MacArthur 72L 4443 ________________________________ From: DeTomaso <[6]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Bill Moore <[7]bill@incendium.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 12:32 PM To: 'Jack Donahue'; [8]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Cc: [9]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Radiator Dilemma Hello Jack: What seems to be the problem with your existing setup, you have had it 12 years ? Cheers: Please use my [10]bill@incendium.com email address in all messages. Bill Moore Incendium Supply Ltd. Suite 416, #305-4625 Varsity Drive N.W. Calgary, AB T3A 0Z9 403.202.0055 -----Original Message----- From: DeTomaso [[11]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf Of Jack Donahue Sent: August-09-16 1:23 PM To: [12]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Cc: [13]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: [DeTomaso] Radiator Dilemma Hey all - I need some good advice on radiators. I currently have a Fluidyne performance unit without a shroud. I've been told that a shroud is a necessity, which I understand. I've had it for about 12 years now - no leaks. The rumblings on The List lean towards a unit by Dennis Quella(?) - don't know the correct spelling or the company, but the last I had read from someone was just to get his radiator and "be done with it". I think it was a double-pass (I guess that's good) - and I assume it's shrouded. Another side of me asks - which is better - copper or aluminum? And Why? I know the copper units are heavier, but I am not concerned about extra weight. I am familiar with the company - Brassworks - they have been at it since the early 1900's. Ken and Lela MacArthur had mentioned Brassworks in July. So - here we go - I know the discussion will generate a fair amount of opinions - which I always welcome, since it will generate more questions too. Looking forward to hearing from all the experts - i know you are out there. jack #4348 _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [14]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [15]http://server.detomasolist. com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. 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