Hi, Thanks for all the suggestions, I hope that it could be a case of a leak trough the went tube. My car is early model with direct vent, operated by a pull-lever below the AC control button. I really think this makes sense as amount of water (roughly 1L I would estimate) that entered after just quick wash seems impossible to get through window gasket…I hope! Now I do not have access to the car till spring, but remember noticing that window seal has been sealed additionally with black silicon, so hope that is OK. Once I get back to Europe will open scrim panels around wipers and check if I can find what’s going on there. I guess there must be somewhere a drain in there; might be plugged and then all water just leaks trough vent opening… Thanks again for all the responses, Robert From: The Goyaniuks [mailto:andriykoisg@yahoo.ca] Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 2:19 PM To: jgkrenton@comcast.net; Robert Stroj; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box In early cars, I believe there was a fresh air "tube" or cylinder that was installed in the passenger side cowl vent "tub". In addition there is a water drain in the cowl vent "tub". In the event of a crack or corrosion in the weld that attaches these items ... it could be the source of the leak. HTH _____ From: "jgkrenton@comcast.net" <jgkrenton@comcast.net> To: Robert Stroj <npdrs@maui.net> Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box Dolomites are beautiful. On my car (2467) it's the lower windshield seal leaking that fills up the glove box. It rains in Seattle. FYI. Jeff __________________________________________________________________ From: "Robert Stroj" <npdrs@maui.net> To: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:40:43 AM Subject: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box Hi, every time I wash my Pantera (71 model) I was finding front right carpet getting wet in the foot area. Last time I happened to open glove box after the wash and it was totally filled with water! Driver side seems to stay dry. This is not even pressure wash, just regular wash without crazy spraying around the door frames etc... I guess it must somehow come in through the front went holes behind the hood? It seems that when I washed the car parked slightly nose up it stayed dry. Also, recently got caught in heavy rain, but did not really get water inside; maybe when car moves it drains different way...? Did anyone have a similar problem and any suggestions where to look/how to fix? Also, my wipers work just on second speed; on first nothing happens. Would that likely be a switch issue or it could be that they are wired wrong? Thanks, Robert PS. A nice photo from recent drive over Dolomites...just trying to pull out front fender lip a bit :) _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. Hi, Thanks for all the suggestions, I hope that it could be a case of a leak trough the went tube. My car is early model with direct vent, operated by a pull-lever below the AC control button. I really think this makes sense as amount of water (roughly 1L I would estimate) that entered after just quick wash seems impossible to get through window gasket...I hope! Now I do not have access to the car till spring, but remember noticing that window seal has been sealed additionally with black silicon, so hope that is OK. Once I get back to Europe will open scrim panels around wipers and check if I can find what's going on there. I guess there must be somewhere a drain in there; might be plugged and then all water just leaks trough vent opening... Thanks again for all the responses, Robert From: The Goyaniuks [mailto:andriykoisg@yahoo.ca] Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 2:19 PM To: jgkrenton@comcast.net; Robert Stroj; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box In early cars, I believe there was a fresh air "tube" or cylinder that was installed in the passenger side cowl vent "tub". In addition there is a water drain in the cowl vent "tub". In the event of a crack or corrosion in the weld that attaches these items ... it could be the source of the leak. HTH _______________________________________________________________________ From: "[1]jgkrenton@comcast.net" <[2]jgkrenton@comcast.net> To: Robert Stroj <[3]npdrs@maui.net> Cc: [4]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box Dolomites are beautiful. On my car (2467) it's the lower windshield seal leaking that fills up the glove box. It rains in Seattle. FYI. Jeff __________________________________________________________________ From: "Robert Stroj" <[5]npdrs@maui.net> To: [6]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:40:43 AM Subject: [DeTomaso] Water in glove box Hi, every time I wash my Pantera (71 model) I was finding front right carpet getting wet in the foot area. Last time I happened to open glove box after the wash and it was totally filled with water! Driver side seems to stay dry. This is not even pressure wash, just regular wash without crazy spraying around the door frames etc... I guess it must somehow come in through the front went holes behind the hood? It seems that when I washed the car parked slightly nose up it stayed dry. Also, recently got caught in heavy rain, but did not really get water inside; maybe when car moves it drains different way...? Did anyone have a similar problem and any suggestions where to look/how to fix? Also, my wipers work just on second speed; on first nothing happens. Would that likely be a switch issue or it could be that they are wired wrong? Thanks, Robert PS. 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