Re: [DeTomaso] Speaking of radiators.

6 Jul 2016

      Thanks.  And to brake from 160,000 mph to 14,000 mph was fun too!!   ;-))
Only took 35 min.  Jupiter is bad-a$$.  Or should I say RAD-A$$.

"A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,
 stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"

Terry W. Himes
JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Dawn Spacecraft Team
Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
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Cell:     (818) 653-8213
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From: Marshall Smith <marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.net<mailto:marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.net>>
Reply-To: Marshall Smith <marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.net<mailto:marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.net>>
Date: Wednesday, July 6, 2016 11:47 AM
To: Larry Stock <larrys@panteraparts.com<mailto:larrys@panteraparts.com>>, Owen Cooke <owen@tadhgcooke.com<mailto:owen@tadhgcooke.com>>, "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>>, Terry Himes <Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov>>
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Speaking of radiators.

Hey Terry...
Congrats to you on your Fun Rally to Jupiter!! One second after a five year trip? You should run the Silver State with a dial-in like that!!

Marshall
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On Tue, 7/5/16, Himes, Terry (397C) <terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov>> wrote:

Subject: [DeTomaso] Speaking of radiators.
To: "Larry Stock" <larrys@panteraparts.com<mailto:larrys@panteraparts.com>>, "Owen Cooke" <owen@tadhgcooke.com<mailto:owen@tadhgcooke.com>>, "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>>
Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2016, 8:22 AM
   Good Morgn
Everyone,
   I have the original radiator.  Should
I think about getting a new
   radiator?
   I was wondering how many of you still have
the original radiator?
   Mine works fine.  Other than new fans
when the old ones died, my
   radiator has been a solid performer.
   Even in Los Wages it was great.  Trip
up to Mt Charleston, Valley of
   Fire, no problems.
   So how long can it
last?   42 years is a long time!!
   Terry
   "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"
   "A Purple Heart proves you were smart
enough to hatch a plan,
    stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to
survive!"
   Terry W. Himes
   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
   Dawn Spacecraft Team
   Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
   Phone: (818) 393-6261
   Cell:     (818)
653-8213
   Fax:     (818)
393-3147
   [1]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov<mailto:thimes@jpl.nasa.gov>
   From: DeTomaso <[2]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com>>
on behalf
   of Larry Stock <[3]larrys@panteraparts.com<mailto:larrys@panteraparts.com>>
   Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2016 7:58 AM
   To: Owen Cooke <[4]owen@tadhgcooke.com<mailto:owen@tadhgcooke.com>>,
   "[5]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>"
   <[6]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest,
Vol 144, Issue 27
   If this just happened suddenly, Check the
thermostat first, and like
   Chuck
   said, make sure it is a Cleveland not a
more common Windsor thermostat.
   It
   is otherwise the Radiator. No amount of
fans can cool a clogged
   radiator
   much less one that was not that well
designed in the first place. A new
   Fluidyne with the proper NoRossion water
additive to keep the Lucas
   anodes
   at bay, will make an unbelievable
difference.
   Larry Stock
   Pantera Parts Connection
   On 7/5/16, 7:13 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of
Owen Cooke"
   <[7]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com>
on behalf of
   [8]owen@tadhgcooke.com<mailto:owen@tadhgcooke.com>>
wrote:
   Guys  i need advice please
   I have a nice original 1972 pre L pantera
   i have some cooling problems in
traffic  even though i am in Ireland
   and
   its never very hot here
   rad and fans are original. with no vents
in front hood
   i notice that the hood got extremely hot
and i got some boiling over
   the fans were working but they are the
originals and not very powerful
   i am considering putting vents in the hood
and fitting a new rad and
   fans kit assembly (PPC Fluidyne rad ) from
pantera parts
   this the one with puller fans  but i
want to keep it upright
   does this plan make sense
   i dont need a massive improvement in
cooling - i only had this slight
   boiling over in the swirl tank once
   also i fitted a new temp sender on the
engine front  and it read about
   160 degrees  until now its reading
230 degress all the time with only
   veery small vasriation in reading
even when engine is cold
   any quick ideas on why it would suddenly
go wrong ?
   i would appreciate advice
   best regards  owen cooke
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   Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 10:21:01 -0700
   From: "Mike Thomas" <[14]mbefthomas@comcast.net<mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net>>
   To: "'Christopher Kimball'" <[15]chrisvkimball@msn.com<mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com>>,
"'MyCars'"
   <[16]mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>>,
"'Pantera Owners Club of America'"
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   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me
anyways)
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   Yes you do, Chris . . .  Well, in one
sense at least.  Some have said
   that
   when you and Pandora came together, that
you "really bought the farm
   this
   time . . .".  So, by that reasoning,
selling the farm and selling
   Pandora
   could mean one ant the same.  I know
that is not in your plans . . .
   Mike
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [[19]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com]
On
   Behalf
   Of Christopher Kimball
   Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM
   To: MyCars <[20]mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>>;
Pantera Owners Club of America
   <[21]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me
anyways)
   Congrats!
   I hope I have as much patience to wait for
my farm to sell so I can
   finish
   my car.  Oh, wait; I don't have a
farm...
   Sincerely,
   Chris
   To: [22]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>
   From: [23]mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>
   Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700
   Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me
anyways)
   So I finally got the organic certification
for the farm, it has been 2
   years. In the next few weeks I'll be
picking & selling a few acres
   worth of avocados to a local distributor.
   Now for the Pantera content. Once I get
paid for the avocados, I'll be
   able to afford to ship my cars (push
button Pantera & convertible
   Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time
mid-summer. Two years of
   being separated from my Pantera, I can't
wait to tear up some roads.
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   From: Christopher Kimball <[26]chrisvkimball@msn.com<mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com>>
   To: Mike Thomas <[27]mbefthomas@comcast.net<mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net>>,
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   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me
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   Message-ID: <[30]SNT404-EAS234F076ADB7D765A18CEA74BC2F0@phx.gbl<mailto:SNT404-EAS234F076ADB7D765A18CEA74BC2F0@phx.gbl>>
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   I hope not, but the thought is starting to
cross my mind more
   frequently...
   Sent from my Windows Phone
   ________________________________
   From: Mike Thomas<[31]mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net>
   Sent: ?6/?25/?2016 10:21 AM
   To: 'Christopher Kimball'<[32]mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com>;
   'MyCars'<[33]mailto:mycars@comcast.net>;
'Pantera Owners Club of
   America'<[34]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me
anyways)
   Yes you do, Chris . . .  Well, in one
sense at least.  Some have said
   that
   when you and Pandora came together, that
you "really bought the farm
   this
   time . . .".  So, by that reasoning,
selling the farm and selling
   Pandora
   could mean one ant the same.  I know
that is not in your plans . . .
   Mike
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [[35]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com]
On
   Behalf
   Of Christopher Kimball
   Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM
   To: MyCars <[36]mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>>;
Pantera Owners Club of America
   <[37]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me
anyways)
   Congrats!
   I hope I have as much patience to wait for
my farm to sell so I can
   finish
   my car.  Oh, wait; I don't have a
farm...
   Sincerely,
   Chris
   To: [38]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>
   From: [39]mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>
   Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700
   Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me
anyways)
   So I finally got the organic certification
for the farm, it has been 2
   years. In the next few weeks I'll be
picking & selling a few acres
   worth of avocados to a local distributor.
   Now for the Pantera content. Once I get
paid for the avocados, I'll be
   able to afford to ship my cars (push
button Pantera & convertible
   Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time
mid-summer. Two years of
   being separated from my Pantera, I can't
wait to tear up some roads.
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        I hope not, but the thought is
starting to cross my mind more
        frequently...
        Sent from my Windows Phone
   __________________________________________________________________
        From: [1]Mike Thomas
        Sent: 6/25/2016 10:21 AM
        To: [2]'Christopher Kimball';
[3]'MyCars'; [4]'Pantera Owners Club
   of
        America'
        Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Good
News (for me anyways)
        Yes you do, Chris . . .
Well, in one sense at least.  Some have
   said
        that
        when you and Pandora came
together, that you "really bought the
   farm
        this
        time . . .".  So, by that
reasoning, selling the farm and selling
        Pandora
        could mean one ant the
same.  I know that is not in your plans . .
   .
        Mike
        -----Original Message-----
        From: DeTomaso
   [[5][42]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com]
   On
        Behalf
        Of Christopher Kimball
        Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016
9:26 PM
        To: MyCars <[43]mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>>;
Pantera Owners Club of
   America
        <[44]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>>
        Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good
News (for me anyways)
        Congrats!
        I hope I have as much patience
to wait for my farm to sell so I
   can
        finish
        my car.  Oh, wait; I don't
have a farm...
        Sincerely,
        Chris
        > To: [45]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>
        > From: [46]mycars@comcast.net<mailto:mycars@comcast.net>
        > Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016
21:01:15 -0700
        > Subject: [DeTomaso] Good
News (for me anyways)
        >
        > So I finally got the
organic certification for the farm, it has
   been
        2
        > years. In the next few
weeks I'll be picking & selling a few
   acres
        > worth of avocados to a
local distributor.
        >
        > Now for the Pantera
content. Once I get paid for the avocados,
   I'll
        be
        > able to afford to ship my
cars (push button Pantera &
   convertible
        > Corvette) from Seattle to
SoCal, some time mid-summer. Two years
   of
        > being separated from my
Pantera, I can't wait to tear up some
   roads.
        >
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   Message: 3
   Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 16:28:03 -0500
   From: Jeff Detrich <[55]jjd1010@aol.com<mailto:jjd1010@aol.com>>
   To: Charles Engles <[56]cengles@cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net>>
   Cc: [57]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Tech Session
   Message-ID:
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   Hey, Hey it works!
   Glad to be back. Couldn't be;ieve how much
I missed everyone.
   Jeff
   6559
   On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:52 PM, Charles
Engles <[59]cengles@cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net>>
   wrote:
        Dear Jeff,

   Hmmm.   I am a computer
dope.  Try an email to
   :
        [1][60]deTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:deTomaso@server.detomasolist.com>

           You might also
try to Google

Detomasolist.com,   which might have the sign
up info.    Also,
   since
        you were on the old forum, Kurt
may have already added you to the
   new
        forum with all the rest of the
POCA reprobates.   You might just
   try
        sending an email......
    I hope that helps.

              Warmest
   regards,
        Chuck Engles
        From: [61]JJD1010@aol.com<mailto:JJD1010@aol.com>
[[62]mailto:JJD1010@aol.com]
        Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 5:35
PM
        To: [63]cengles@cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net>
        Subject: Re: Tech Session
        Where do I find the new old
forum?
        In a message dated 6/22/2016
5:35:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
        [2][64]cengles@cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net>
writes:
        Dear Jeff,

      Yes, I sent the attachment for the
total of, IIRC,
        $111.33 to Mike DiTucci.  I
will try to find the pdf and sent it
   to you
        directly.

      Yes, the Old Forum is back despite
threats of
   lawsuit by
        Mr. Michael Dog-in-the-Manger
Shortt.  The New Old Forum is good.
   Mr.
        Shortt is suffering from mental
illness.

   Warmest regards,  Chuck Engles
        rom: [3][65]JJD1010@aol.com<mailto:JJD1010@aol.com>
[[4][66]mailto:JJD1010@aol.com]
        Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016
3:31 PM
        To: [5][67]cengles@cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net>
        Subject: Tech Session
        Chuck,
        Sorry I missed tech session. Do
you have any expenses you want to
   be
        reimbursed for?
        Jeff
        PS: Did the email forum ever get
going again? I sure miss it!
   References
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        Hey, Hey it works!
        Glad to be back. Couldn't
be;ieve how much I missed everyone.
        Jeff
        6559
        On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 6:52 PM,
Charles Engles
   <[1][75]cengles@cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net>>
        wrote:
          A  A Dear Jeff,
          A  A  A
A  A  A  A  A  A  A
A  Hmmm.A  A I am a computer
   dope.A
          Try an email to :
          A  A [1][2][76]deTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:deTomaso@server.detomasolist.com>
          A  A  A
A  A  A  A  A  A  A
A  A  A  A  A  A  A
A  A  You
   might
          also try to Google
          A  A
Detomasolist.com,A  A which might have the sign up
   info.A  A
          Also,A  since
          A  A you were on the
old forum, Kurt may have already added you
   to
          the new
          A  A forum with all
the rest of the POCA reprobates.A  A You
   might
          just try
          A  A sending an
email......A  A  A  I hope that helps.
          A  A  A
A  A  A  A  A  A  A
A  A  A  A  A  A  A
A  A  A  A  A
   A
          A  A  A
A  A  A Warmest regards,
          A  A Chuck Engles
          A  A From: [3][77]JJD1010@aol.com<mailto:JJD1010@aol.com>
   [[78]mailto:[4]JJD1010@aol.com]
          A  A Sent: Friday,
June 24, 2016 5:35 PM
          A  A To: [5][79]cengles@cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net>
          A  A Subject: Re:
Tech Session
          A  A Where do I find
the new old forum?
          A  A In a message
dated 6/22/2016 5:35:53 P.M. Central Daylight
          Time,
          A  A [2][6][80]cengles@cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net>
writes:
          A  A Dear Jeff,
          A  A  A
A  A  A  A  A  A Yes, I sent the
attachment for the
   total
          of, IIRC,
          A  A $111.33 to Mike
DiTucci.A  I will try to find the pdf and
   sent
          it to you
          A  A directly.
          A  A  A
A  A  A  A  A  A Yes, the Old Forum
is back despite
   threats
          of lawsuit by
          A  A Mr. Michael
Dog-in-the-Manger Shortt.A  The New Old Forum
   is
          good.A  A Mr.
          A  A Shortt is
suffering from mental illness.
          A  A  A
A  A  A  A  A  A  A
A  A  A  A  A  Warmest regards,A
          Chuck Engles
          A  A rom:
[3][7][81]JJD1010@aol.com<mailto:JJD1010@aol.com>
   [[4][82]mailto:[8]JJD1010@aol.com]
          A  A Sent:
Wednesday, June 22, 2016 3:31 PM
          A  A To:
[5][9][83]cengles@cox.net<mailto:cengles@cox.net>
          A  A Subject: Tech
Session
          A  A Chuck,
          A  A Sorry I missed
tech session. Do you have any expenses you
   want
          to be
          A  A reimbursed
for?
          A  A Jeff
          A  A PS: Did the
email forum ever get going again? I sure miss
   it!
          References
          A  A 1.
[84]mailto:[10]deTomaso@server.detomasolist.com
          A  A 2.
[85]mailto:[11]cengles@cox.net
          A  A 3.
[86]mailto:[12]JJD1010@aol.com
          A  A 4.
[87]mailto:[13]JJD1010@aol.com
          A  A 5.
[88]mailto:[14]cengles@cox.net

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   Message: 4
   Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 16:38:14 -0500
   From: Jeff Detrich <[107]jjdetrich@gmail.com<mailto:jjdetrich@gmail.com>>
   To: [108]laurieferrari@aol.com<mailto:laurieferrari@aol.com>
   Cc: [109]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] News from Laurie
   Message-ID:
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   Interesting. 2 years ago, when preparing
some things for publication
   for
   the Lone Star Fun Rally in Houston, we
found their prices to be 50%
   higher
   than what we got locally. This was
reported to the Board with the
   recommendation that they might want to
look at getting some bides for
   the
   magazine and newsletter. Not surprisingly,
it was ignored.
   So on to bigger and better things; Laurie,
congratulations and thanks
   for
   taking on the project. I hope we all step
up and give you plenty of
   material for the magazine.
   Jeff
   6559
   On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 3:58 AM, Laurie
Ferrari via DeTomaso <
   [111]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>>
wrote:
        Get ready! I am delighted to
serve as the Interim Profiles Editor
   in
        light of Mike Haney's
resignation. I am gearing up for interviews
        with new members, long time
members, obtaining details of special
   cars
        personalities, projects,
compiling auction and sales information,
        networking with people of
interest, and calling on all Chapter
        Presidents for highlights of
your news for a new Chapter Report
   Section
        of Profiles.
        I regret that there has been
unrest in the club of late and I aim
   to be
        positive and do my utmost to
maintain professionalism.  I know
        that decisions for the
betterment of POCA have recently been
        entertained by the Board. One
such issue is the choice of printer.
        Facts have been provided showing
that we were offered an $8,000.
   yearly
        savings for an improved product
from a new printer. For whatever
        reasoning, Jack DeRyke found
this so unacceptable that he resigned
   even
        though urged not to do so. This
is hard to fathom as it would seem
        that one's dedication to the
Club for so many years would
   supersede
        personal interests, most
especially when the majority of the Board
   has
        voted to try the new printer.
This is unfortunate but decisions
   need
        to be made democratically and
for the betterment of the entire
        membership. We have a great club
made up of incredible people and
        a bright future ahead with our
growing numbers and the many new
        benefits we are seeing.
        I encourage you to be congenial
and please contact me with your
        stories, experiences, upgrades,
repairs, restorations, pictures;
   no
        information is too little.
Let's all contribute to a fabulous
   Profiles
        issue for the last one of this
year. You will find my contact
        information on the membership
information page.
        My warmest greetings to
everyone!
        Laurie
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        Interesting. 2 years ago, when
preparing some things for
   publication
        for the Lone Star Fun Rally in
Houston, we found their prices to
   be
   50%
        higher than what we got locally.
This was reported to the Board
   with
        the recommendation that they
might want to look at getting some
   bides
        for the magazine and newsletter.
Not surprisingly, it was ignored.
        So on to bigger and better
things; Laurie, congratulations and
   thanks
        for taking on the project. I
hope we all step up and give you
   plenty of
        material for the magazine.
        Jeff
        6559
        On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 3:58 AM,
Laurie Ferrari via DeTomaso
        <[1][114]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>>
wrote:
          A  A Get ready! I am
delighted to serve as the Interim Profiles
          Editor in
          A  A light of Mike
Haney's resignation. I am gearing up for
          interviews
          A  A with new
members, long time members, obtaining details of
          special cars
          A  A personalities,
projects, compiling auction and sales
          information,
          A  A networking with
people of interest, and calling on all
   Chapter
          A  A Presidents for
highlights of your news for a new Chapter
   Report
          Section
          A  A of Profiles.
          A  A I regret that
there has been unrest in the club of late and
   I
          aim to be
          A  A positive and do
my utmost to maintain professionalism.A  I
   know
          A  A that decisions
for the betterment of POCA have recently
   been
          A  A entertained by
the Board. One such issue is the choice of
          printer.
          A  A Facts have been
provided showing that we were offered an
          $8,000. yearly
          A  A savings for an
improved product from a new printer. For
          whatever
          A  A reasoning, Jack
DeRyke found this so unacceptable that he
          resigned even
          A  A though urged
not to do so. This is hard to fathom as it
   would
          seem
          A  A that one's
dedication to the Club for so many years would
          supersede
          A  A personal
interests, most especially when the majority of
   the
          Board has
          A  A voted to try
the new printer. This is unfortunate but
   decisions
          need
          A  A to be made
democratically and for the betterment of the
   entire
          A  A membership. We
have a great club made up of incredible
   people
          and
          A  A a bright future
ahead with our growing numbers and the many
   new
          A  A benefits we are
seeing.
          A  A I encourage you
to be congenial and please contact me with
   your
          A  A stories,
experiences, upgrades, repairs, restorations,
          pictures; no
          A  A information is
too little.A  Let's all contribute to a
   fabulous
          Profiles
          A  A issue for the
last one of this year. You will find my
   contact
          A  A information on
the membership information page.
          A  A My warmest
greetings to everyone!
          A  A Laurie

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   Message: 5
   Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 17:27:44 -0500
   From: Jeff Detrich <[120]jjdetrich@gmail.com<mailto:jjdetrich@gmail.com>>
   To: John McKee <[121]johnmckee@cox.net<mailto:johnmckee@cox.net>>
   Cc: Detomaso <[122]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Door cards.
   Message-ID:
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   Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
   I use a thin and waterproof sound
blocking/dampening material from
   Cascade
   Audio, VB-2HD, which is ideally suited for
a vapor barrier on a car
   door.
   It has an adhesive backing that holds the
material to the door.
   [124]http://www.cascadeaudio.com/automotive_audio_enhancement/dampers_f
   or_cars
   .htm
   Jeff
   On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 11:01 AM, John
McKee <[125]johnmckee@cox.net<mailto:johnmckee@cox.net>>
   wrote:
   Michael,
   I plan to use this product to replace the
door plastic.
   Thermo-Tec Super Sonic Mats
   [126]http://www.thermotec.com/products/14700-super-sonic-acoustical-mat
   .html
   John
   -----Original Message-----
   From: DeTomaso [[127]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com]
   On
   Behalf
   Of Michael Barnes
   Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:14 AM
   To: Detomaso <[128]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>>
   Subject: [DeTomaso] Door cards.
   Hi all,just fitted a pair of new door
mirrors and was in the process of
   refitting the door cards when I remembered
a piece of advice a friends
   dad
   gave me forty years ago ( yeah I know) "
don't put the plastic back on
   the
   door behind the card as it causes
condensation and inevitably
   corrosion"
   What do you guys think, leave the plastic
on or bin it?
   Thanks for any input
   Michael
   Sent from my iPad
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        I use a thin and waterproof
sound blocking/dampening material from
        Cascade Audio, VB-2HD, which is
ideally suited for a vapor barrier
   on a
        car door. It has an adhesive
backing that holds the material to
   the
        door.
   [1][133]http://www.cascadeaudio.com/automotive_audio_enhancement/damper
   s_for
        _cars.htm
        Jeff
        On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 11:01
AM, John McKee
   <[2][134]johnmckee@cox.net<mailto:johnmckee@cox.net>>
        wrote:
          Michael,
          I plan to use this
product to replace the door plastic.
          Thermo-Tec Super Sonic
Mats
   [3][135]http://www.thermotec.com/products/14700-super-sonic-acoustical-
   ma
          t.html
          John
          -----Original
Message-----
          From: DeTomaso
   [[136]mailto:[4]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com]
          On Behalf
        Of Michael Barnes
        Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016
10:14 AM
        To: Detomaso <[5][137]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>>
        Subject: [DeTomaso] Door cards.
        Hi all,just fitted a pair of new
door mirrors and was in the
   process of
        refitting the door cards when I
remembered a piece of advice a
   friends
        dad
        gave me forty years ago ( yeah I
know) " don't put the plastic
   back
   on
        the
        door behind the card as it
causes condensation and inevitably
        corrosion"
        What do you guys think, leave
the plastic on or bin it?
        Thanks for any input
        Michael
        Sent from my iPad

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   Message: 6
   Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 16:27:10 +1200
   From: John Bennett <[151]jbennett111@zoho.com<mailto:jbennett111@zoho.com>>
   To: "[152]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com>"
   <[153]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>>
   Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN
url for www.poca.com/join
   Message-ID: <[154]E1A0B9E8-2028-4E34-B593-A1B84CBBD797@zoho.com<mailto:E1A0B9E8-2028-4E34-B593-A1B84CBBD797@zoho.com>>
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   Great membership now only $50!
   Begin forwarded message:
   From: Ed Mendez <[155]edducati@mac.com<mailto:edducati@mac.com>>
   Subject: [SDP] New JOIN url for
www.poca.com/join
   Date: 26 June 2016 at 16:25:26 NZST
   To: San Diego Panteras <[156]sdpanteras@googlegroups.com<mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com>>,
Space City
   Panteras <[157]SCPOCA@yahoogroups.com<mailto:SCPOCA@yahoogroups.com>>
   Please spread the word!
   We have created an easy to remember,
simple web address for people to
   sign up online.
   Simply go to
   www.poca.com/join <[158]http://www.poca.com/join>
   to have people sign up.
   You can sign up people on your smart phone
at car shows, events, etc.
   In addition, you can now choose the
International option; no matter
   where you live, and receive a full POCA
membership for $50.00 instead
   of $75.00. What this option gives you is
to receive "Digital only"
   Newsletters and Profiles in full color pdf
format.
   Note: If they want posted hardcopies then
they would choose the
   Domestic option for the standard $75.00,
   Don?t forget we have the 3 5 1 program,
they more members you get
   benefits the club and yourself. Details
here:
   [159]https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=99989
   6&modu
   le_id=225364
   <[160]https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=9998
   96&mod
   ule_id=225364>
   Thanks,
   Ed Mendez
   PR Director - POCA
   www.poca.com <[161]http://www.poca.com/>
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        Great membership now only $50!
        Begin forwarded message:
        From: Ed Mendez <[1][168]edducati@mac.com<mailto:edducati@mac.com>>
        Subject: [SDP] New JOIN url for
[2]www.poca.com/join
        Date: 26 June 2016 at 16:25:26
NZST
        To: San Diego Panteras
<[3][169]sdpanteras@googlegroups.com<mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com>>,
   Space City
        Panteras <[4][170]SCPOCA@yahoogroups.com<mailto:SCPOCA@yahoogroups.com>>
        Please spread the word!
        We have created an easy to
remember, simple web address for people
   to
        sign up online.
        Simply go to
        [5]www.poca.com/join
        to have people sign up.
        You can sign up people on your
smart phone at car shows, events,
   etc.
        In addition, you can now choose
the International option; no
   matter
        where you live, and receive a
full POCA membership for $50.00
   instead
        of $75.00. What this option
gives you is to receive "Digital only"
        Newsletters and Profiles in full
color pdf format.
        Note: If they want posted
hardcopies then they would choose the
        Domestic option for the standard
$75.00,
        Don't forget we have the 3 5 1
program, they more members you get
        benefits the club and yourself.
Details here:
   [6][171]https://poca.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=99
   9896&
        module_id=225364
        Thanks,
        Ed Mendez
        PR Director - POCA
        [7]www.poca.com
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   Message: 7
   Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 12:53:56 +0100
   From: Michael Barnes <[185]michaelbarnessrt10@hotmail.co.uk<mailto:michaelbarnessrt10@hotmail.co.uk>>
   To: Detomaso <[186]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>>
   Subject: [DeTomaso] Rear calliper rebuild
kit for a  '74
   Message-ID: <[187]DUB410-EAS13656BB193887FECF9AB87388200@phx.gbl<mailto:DUB410-EAS13656BB193887FECF9AB87388200@phx.gbl>>
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   Has anyone got a contact in the U.K. Who
can supply these please?
   Thanks in advance
      Michael
   Sent from my iPad
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   Message: 8
   Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 21:04:47 +0900
   From: Mike Drew <[188]MikeLDrew@aol.com<mailto:MikeLDrew@aol.com>>
   To: Michael Barnes <[189]michaelbarnessrt10@hotmail.co.uk<mailto:michaelbarnessrt10@hotmail.co.uk>>
   Cc: Detomaso <[190]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Rear calliper
rebuild kit for a  '74
   Message-ID: <[191]5893C485-999A-4670-80E0-91DEB98DDA49@aol.com<mailto:5893C485-999A-4670-80E0-91DEB98DDA49@aol.com>>
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   Michael,
   Here you go:  [192]http://performance-braking.co.uk/
   Run by a guy named Jonathan Freeth, who
was the head of Girling racing
   division when Girling went belly-up. He
bought all the inventory,
   blueprints and tooling and continues to
service all Girling products,
   and can even provide new castings for some
models.
   He probably offers a rebuild service too.
   If you do it yourself be sure to read the
manual before you pick up
   spanner one, and know exactly what needs
to be done in order to
   compress
   the piston. Get it wrong and you will
destroy the parking brake
   function.
   Cheers!
   Mike
   Sent from my iPad
   On Jun 26, 2016, at 20:53, Michael Barnes
   <[193]michaelbarnessrt10@hotmail.co.uk<mailto:michaelbarnessrt10@hotmail.co.uk>>
wrote:
   Has anyone got a contact in the U.K. Who
can supply these please?
   Thanks in advance
   Michael
   Sent from my iPad
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        Michael,
        Here you go:  [1][196]http://performance-braking.co.uk/
        Run by a guy named Jonathan
Freeth, who was the head of Girling
   racing
        division when Girling went
belly-up. He bought all the inventory,
        blueprints and tooling and
continues to service all Girling
   products,
        and can even provide new
castings for some models.
        He probably offers a rebuild
service too.
        If you do it yourself be sure to
read the manual before you pick
   up
        spanner one, and know exactly
what needs to be done in order to
        compress the piston. Get it
wrong and you will destroy the parking
        brake function.
        Cheers!
        Mike
        Sent from my iPad
        On Jun 26, 2016, at 20:53,
Michael Barnes
        <[2][197]michaelbarnessrt10@hotmail.co.uk<mailto:michaelbarnessrt10@hotmail.co.uk>>
wrote:
        Has anyone got a contact in the
U.K. Who can supply these please?
        Thanks in advance
        Michael
        Sent from my iPad

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   Message: 9
   Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 08:35:08 -0400
   From: "Joseph F. Byrd, Jr." <[204]byrdjf@embarqmail.com<mailto:byrdjf@embarqmail.com>>
   To: "[205]'DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com<mailto:'DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com>'"
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   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Fwd: [SDP] New
JOIN url for www.poca.com/join
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   Is the international option
discussed/mentioned on the POCA web site?
   If one opts for the international, will
hard copies be available to
   purchase in case there is one desired?
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   Subject: [DeTomaso] Fwd: [SDP] New JOIN
url for www.poca.com/join
   Great membership now only $50!
   Begin forwarded message:
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   Subject: [SDP] New JOIN url for
www.poca.com/join
   Date: 26 June 2016 at 16:25:26 NZST
   To: San Diego Panteras <[211]sdpanteras@googlegroups.com<mailto:sdpanteras@googlegroups.com>>,
Space City
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   Please spread the word!
   We have created an easy to remember,
simple web address for people to
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   Simply go to
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   to have people sign up.
   You can sign up people on your smart phone
at car shows, events, etc.
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they more members you get
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   Thanks.  And to brake from 160,000 mph to 14,000 mph was fun too!!
   ;-))
   Only took 35 min.  Jupiter is bad-a$$.  Or should I say RAD-A$$.

   "A Purple Heart proves you were smart enough to hatch a plan,

    stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to survive!"

   Terry W. Himes

   JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory

   Dawn Spacecraft Team

   Rosetta Sequence Team Lead

   Phone: (818) 393-6261

   Cell:     (818) 653-8213

   Fax:     (818) 393-3147

   [1]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov

   From: Marshall Smith <[2]marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.net>
   Reply-To: Marshall Smith <[3]marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.net>
   Date: Wednesday, July 6, 2016 11:47 AM
   To: Larry Stock <[4]larrys@panteraparts.com>, Owen Cooke
   <[5]owen@tadhgcooke.com>, "[6]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com"
   <[7]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>, Terry Himes
   <[8]Terry.Himes@jpl.nasa.gov>
   Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Speaking of radiators.

   Hey Terry...
   Congrats to you on your Fun Rally to Jupiter!! One second after a five
   year trip? You should run the Silver State with a dial-in like that!!
   Marshall
   --------------------------------------------
   On Tue, 7/5/16, Himes, Terry (397C) <[9]terry.himes@jpl.nasa.gov>
   wrote:
   Subject: [DeTomaso] Speaking of radiators.
   To: "Larry Stock" <[10]larrys@panteraparts.com>, "Owen Cooke"
   <[11]owen@tadhgcooke.com>, "[12]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com"
   <[13]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>
   Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2016, 8:22 AM
      Good Morgn
   Everyone,
      I have the original radiator.  Should
   I think about getting a new
      radiator?
      I was wondering how many of you still have
   the original radiator?
      Mine works fine.  Other than new fans
   when the old ones died, my
      radiator has been a solid performer.
      Even in Los Wages it was great.  Trip
   up to Mt Charleston, Valley of
      Fire, no problems.
      So how long can it
   last?   42 years is a long time!!
      Terry
      "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"
      "A Purple Heart proves you were smart
   enough to hatch a plan,
       stupid enough to try it and lucky enough to
   survive!"
      Terry W. Himes
      JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory
      Dawn Spacecraft Team
      Rosetta Sequence Team Lead
      Phone: (818) 393-6261
      Cell:     (818)
   653-8213
      Fax:     (818)
   393-3147
      [1][14]thimes@jpl.nasa.gov
      From: DeTomaso <[2][15]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com>
   on behalf
      of Larry Stock <[3][16]larrys@panteraparts.com>
      Date: Tuesday, July 5, 2016 7:58 AM
      To: Owen Cooke <[4][17]owen@tadhgcooke.com>,
      "[5][18]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com"
      <[6][19]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>
      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] DeTomaso Digest,
   Vol 144, Issue 27
      If this just happened suddenly, Check the
   thermostat first, and like
      Chuck
      said, make sure it is a Cleveland not a
   more common Windsor thermostat.
      It
      is otherwise the Radiator. No amount of
   fans can cool a clogged
      radiator
      much less one that was not that well
   designed in the first place. A new
      Fluidyne with the proper NoRossion water
   additive to keep the Lucas
      anodes
      at bay, will make an unbelievable
   difference.
      Larry Stock
      Pantera Parts Connection
      On 7/5/16, 7:13 AM, "DeTomaso on behalf of
   Owen Cooke"
      <[7][20]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com
   on behalf of
      [8][21]owen@tadhgcooke.com>
   wrote:
      Guys  i need advice please
      I have a nice original 1972 pre L pantera
      i have some cooling problems in
   traffic  even though i am in Ireland
      and
      its never very hot here
      rad and fans are original. with no vents
   in front hood
      i notice that the hood got extremely hot
   and i got some boiling over
      the fans were working but they are the
   originals and not very powerful
      i am considering putting vents in the hood
   and fitting a new rad and
      fans kit assembly (PPC Fluidyne rad ) from
   pantera parts
      this the one with puller fans  but i
   want to keep it upright
      does this plan make sense
      i dont need a massive improvement in
   cooling - i only had this slight
      boiling over in the swirl tank once
      also i fitted a new temp sender on the
   engine front  and it read about
      160 degrees  until now its reading
   230 degress all the time with only
      veery small vasriation in reading
   even when engine is cold
      any quick ideas on why it would suddenly
   go wrong ?
      i would appreciate advice
      best regards  owen cooke
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      Message: 1
      Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 10:21:01 -0700
      From: "Mike Thomas" <[14][27]mbefthomas@comcast.net>
      To: "'Christopher Kimball'" <[15][28]chrisvkimball@msn.com>,
   "'MyCars'"
      <[16][29]mycars@comcast.net>,
   "'Pantera Owners Club of America'"
      <[17][30]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>
      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me
   anyways)
      Message-ID:
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      Yes you do, Chris . . .  Well, in one
   sense at least.  Some have said
      that
      when you and Pandora came together, that
   you "really bought the farm
      this
      time . . .".  So, by that reasoning,
   selling the farm and selling
      Pandora
      could mean one ant the same.  I know
   that is not in your plans . . .
      Mike
      -----Original Message-----
      From: DeTomaso
   [[19][32]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com]
   On
      Behalf
      Of Christopher Kimball
      Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM
      To: MyCars <[20][33]mycars@comcast.net>;
   Pantera Owners Club of America
      <[21][34]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>
      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me
   anyways)
      Congrats!
      I hope I have as much patience to wait for
   my farm to sell so I can
      finish
      my car.  Oh, wait; I don't have a
   farm...
      Sincerely,
      Chris
      To: [22][35]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com
      From: [23][36]mycars@comcast.net
      Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700
      Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me
   anyways)
      So I finally got the organic certification
   for the farm, it has been 2
      years. In the next few weeks I'll be
   picking & selling a few acres
      worth of avocados to a local distributor.
      Now for the Pantera content. Once I get
   paid for the avocados, I'll be
      able to afford to ship my cars (push
   button Pantera & convertible
      Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time
   mid-summer. Two years of
      being separated from my Pantera, I can't
   wait to tear up some roads.
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      Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 12:00:55 -0700
      From: Christopher Kimball <[26][39]chrisvkimball@msn.com>
      To: Mike Thomas <[27][40]mbefthomas@comcast.net>,
   'MyCars'
      <[28][41]mycars@comcast.net>,
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      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me
   anyways)
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      I hope not, but the thought is starting to
   cross my mind more
      frequently...
      Sent from my Windows Phone
      ________________________________
      From: Mike Thomas<[31][44]mailto:mbefthomas@comcast.net>
      Sent: ?6/?25/?2016 10:21 AM
      To: 'Christopher Kimball'<[32][45]mailto:chrisvkimball@msn.com>;
      'MyCars'<[33][46]mailto:mycars@comcast.net>;
   'Pantera Owners Club of
      America'<[34][47]mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>
      Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me
   anyways)
      Yes you do, Chris . . .  Well, in one
   sense at least.  Some have said
      that
      when you and Pandora came together, that
   you "really bought the farm
      this
      time . . .".  So, by that reasoning,
   selling the farm and selling
      Pandora
      could mean one ant the same.  I know
   that is not in your plans . . .
      Mike
      -----Original Message-----
      From: DeTomaso
   [[35][48]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com]
   On
      Behalf
      Of Christopher Kimball
      Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:26 PM
      To: MyCars <[36][49]mycars@comcast.net>;
   Pantera Owners Club of America
      <[37][50]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>
      Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me
   anyways)
      Congrats!
      I hope I have as much patience to wait for
   my farm to sell so I can
      finish
      my car.  Oh, wait; I don't have a
   farm...
      Sincerely,
      Chris
      To: [38][51]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com
      From: [39][52]mycars@comcast.net
      Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:01:15 -0700
      Subject: [DeTomaso] Good News (for me
   anyways)
      So I finally got the organic certification
   for the farm, it has been 2
      years. In the next few weeks I'll be
   picking & selling a few acres
      worth of avocados to a local distributor.
      Now for the Pantera content. Once I get
   paid for the avocados, I'll be
      able to afford to ship my cars (push
   button Pantera & convertible
      Corvette) from Seattle to SoCal, some time
   mid-summer. Two years of
      being separated from my Pantera, I can't
   wait to tear up some roads.
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