That was my thinking also! On Saturday, May 21, 2016 10:05 AM, R.J <willibillie@live.de> wrote: Last time, when Europeans where invited to Poca, i asked Mr. Shortt about the benefits, i got the nasty answer, invited people should not ask a question, they should take the invitation or leave... OK, i left.. Roland Am 21.05.2016 um 16:23 schrieb Asa Jay Laughton:
Yes, there were too many that I thought simply couldn't be answered because there was NO balance to the answers, it was either I fully don't agree with you at all, or I think you need to fire everyone else so you can do what you want. I think the man is a closet narcissist. Why can't we have a middle of the road solution? Example. He says "he" wants an all-electronic newsletter. But what about those members who don't? Can't there be a happy medium where those who want electronic delivery can -have- electronic delivery and those who want a paper copy can get a paper copy? According to him... no. There can be no happy medium. You will conform or you will leave. Asa Jay Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired & Shelley Marie Spokane, WA ****************************** [1]http://w7tsc.org/ [2]http://www.teampanteraracing.com/
On 5/21/2016 6:33 AM, Will Kooiman wrote:
Hi Guys,
I started to fill out the POCA Direction Survey, but I can't.
Some of the questions are fine, and need to be asked. But some are designed to support one viewpoint over another.
For example:
1. I fully support the direction the club is headed in under the new President and the progressive BOD members who support moving the club forward.
O Absolutely, the change was long over due. I can already see the difference.
O Not at all, please stop improving things and leave it alone.
The responses can be interpreted thusly:
A. Rock on, you are awesome, and everyone else is an idiot.
B. I'm stupid, and I like it that way.
Seriously?
How about?
C. I support the direction the club is headed, but the President is alienating too many members and needs to tone down his message.
D. Why not have a free form text field and let the members write what they want? It's not like we have billions of members and can't sort through their responses.
Will.
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Yes, there were too many that I thought simply couldn't be answered because there was NO balance to the answers, it was either I fully don't agree with you at all, or I think you need to fire everyone else so you can do what you want. I think the man is a closet narcissist. Why can't we have a middle of the road solution? Example. He says "he" wants an all-electronic newsletter. But what about
members who don't? Can't there be a happy medium where those who want electronic delivery can -have- electronic delivery and those who want a paper copy can get a paper copy? According to him... no. There can be no happy medium. You will conform or you will leave. Asa Jay Asa Jay Laughton - W7TSC, MSgt, USAFR, Retired & Shelley Marie Spokane, WA ****************************** [1][1]http://w7tsc.org/ [2][2]http://www.teampanteraracing.com/
On 5/21/2016 6:33 AM, Will Kooiman wrote:
Hi Guys,
I started to fill out the POCA Direction Survey, but I can't.
Some of the questions are fine, and need to be asked. But some are designed to support one viewpoint over another.
For example:
1. I fully support the direction the club is headed in under the new President and the progressive BOD members who support moving the club forward.
O Absolutely, the change was long over due. I can already see
difference.
O Not at all, please stop improving things and leave it alone.
The responses can be interpreted thusly:
A. Rock on, you are awesome, and everyone else is an idiot.
B. I'm stupid, and I like it that way.
Seriously?
How about?
C. I support the direction the club is headed, but the President is alienating too many members and needs to tone down his message.
D. Why not have a free form text field and let the members write what they want? It's not like we have billions of members and can't sort through their responses.
Will.
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