Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)

23 Jul 2016

      World domination?

On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Michael Haney <paso750@gmail.com> wrote:
...
Ever since he started with his "agenda" I have wondered what his end goal
was.
I still haven't figured it out.
Mike Haney
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
Of Ken Green via DeTomaso
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 6:55 AM
To: Charles Engles; 'Ed Mendez'; 'Mike Reilly'
Cc: detomaso@detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
You have to start wondering why anyone would work so hard to control a car
club?  The amount of counter-productive wasted effort is ridiculous.  The
hole just gets deeper and deeper.  You read about crap like this going
on to
gain control of multi-million $ corporations, but it makes no sense for a
car club.
Ken
From: Charles Engles <cengles@cox.net>
 To: 'Ken Green' <kenn_green@yahoo.com>; 'Ed Mendez' <edducati@mac.com>;
'Mike Reilly' <reillyms@live.com>
Cc: detomaso@detomasolist.com
 Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 6:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
Dear Ken,
The now infamous "survey" is an example of his modus operandi.
Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
-----Original Message-----
From: DeTomaso [mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com] On Behalf
Of Ken Green via DeTomaso
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 11:09 PM
To: Ed Mendez; Mike Reilly
Cc: detomaso@detomasolist.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
This is sounding really political and dishonest.  Is it one of those
surveys
carefully constructed to get the answers the author wants as an excuse to
do
things informed members would never approve?
Ken
From: Ed Mendez <edducati@mac.com>
 To: Mike Reilly <reillyms@live.com>
Cc: "detomaso@detomasolist.com" <detomaso@detomasolist.com>
 Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 4:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
You should leave it in Junk it was not written or condoned by the board.
Mr. Shortt created his own Survey Monkey account and is using emails that
he
has a list of.
...
On Jul 23, 2016, at 10:40, Mike Reilly <reillyms@live.com> wrote:
Check your junk file.  Mine was there.
Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10
From: [2]Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
 Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 3:31 PM
 To: [3]detomaso@detomasolist.com
 Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
I have not received the survey.  I am hoping it would have a 4th
 reply.
 4.  Please revoke my membership and remove all personal information
 and
 postings from POCA.com.  You may keep any pro-rated membership fees
and
 future publication mailings.
 The reason I first noticed the site was down was looking the email
 address
 to see whom to send above to.
-----Original Message-----
 From: DeTomaso [[4]mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com]
On
 Behalf
 Of Will Kooiman
 Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 18:06 PM
 To: Ken Green; Pantdino; julian_kift@hotmail.com; bill@incendium.com
 Cc: detomaso@server.detomasolist.com; detomaso@detomasolist.com;
 mbglobalsc@aol.com; gpd4@juno.com
 Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
 Verbatim from the survey:
 1.  We support Michael Shortt, Mike Burnett, and Laurie Basile and
want
 you to fight for us and keep making the club better.  OR
 2.  We Thank you for your service so far, please give up the fight,
let
 the
 contentious people win and return the club to the way it was.
 This makes it look like there are only two choices - either you fully
 support us, or you suck.
 How about this?
 3. I support much of what the new leadership has proposed, but I am
 unhappy
 with the way it has been done.  Please continue trying to make the
club
 better, but first attempt to reconcile the relationships that have
been
 damaged, and if anyone is unable to serve on the BOD without treating
 people
 with respect, they should leave.
 --
 Will
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A  [22]mbglobalsc@aol.com; [23]gpd4@juno.com
A  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
A  Verbatim from the survey:
A  1.A  We support Michael Shortt, Mike Burnett, and Laurie Basile and
want
A  you to fight for us and keep making the club better.A  OR
A  2.A  We Thank you for your service so far, please give up the
   fight,
let
A  the
A  contentious people win and return the club to the way it was.
A  This makes it look like there are only two choices - either you
   fully
A  support us, or you suck.
A  How about this?
A  3. I support much of what the new leadership has proposed, but I am
A  unhappy
A  with the way it has been done.A  Please continue trying to make the
club
A  better, but first attempt to reconcile the relationships that have
been
A  damaged, and if anyone is unable to serve on the BOD without
World domination?

   On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Michael Haney <[1]paso750@gmail.com>
   wrote:

     Ever since he started with his "agenda" I have wondered what his end
     goal
     was.
     I still haven't figured it out.
     Mike Haney
     -----Original Message-----
     From: DeTomaso [mailto:[2]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com]
     On Behalf
     Of Ken Green via DeTomaso
     Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 6:55 AM
     To: Charles Engles; 'Ed Mendez'; 'Mike Reilly'
     Cc: [3]detomaso@detomasolist.com
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
     You have to start wondering why anyone would work so hard to control
     a car
     club?A  The amount of counter-productive wasted effort is
     ridiculous.A  The
     hole just gets deeper and deeper.A  You read about crap like this
     going onA to
     gain control ofA multi-million $ corporations, but it makes no sense
     for a
     car club.
     Ken
     A  A  A  From: Charles Engles <[4]cengles@cox.net>
     A To: 'Ken Green' <[5]kenn_green@yahoo.com>; 'Ed Mendez'
     <[6]edducati@mac.com>;
     'Mike Reilly' <[7]reillyms@live.com>
     Cc: [8]detomaso@detomasolist.com
     A Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 6:43 AM
     A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
     Dear Ken,
     A  A  A  A  A  The now infamous "survey" is an example of his modus
     operandi.
     A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  Warmest regards, Chuck Engles
     -----Original Message-----
     From: DeTomaso [mailto:[9]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com]
     On Behalf
     Of Ken Green via DeTomaso
     Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 11:09 PM
     To: Ed Mendez; Mike Reilly
     Cc: [10]detomaso@detomasolist.com
     Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
     This is sounding really political and dishonest.A  Is it one of
     those surveys
     carefully constructed to get the answers the author wants as an
     excuse to do
     things informed members would never approve?
     Ken
     A  A  A  From: Ed Mendez <[11]edducati@mac.com>
     A To: Mike Reilly <[12]reillyms@live.com>
     Cc: "[13]detomaso@detomasolist.com" <[14]detomaso@detomasolist.com>
     A Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 4:50 PM
     A Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
     A
     You should leave it in Junk it was not written or condoned by the
     board.
     Mr. Shortt created his own Survey Monkey account and is using emails
     that he
     has a list of.
     > On Jul 23, 2016, at 10:40, Mike Reilly <[15]reillyms@live.com>
     wrote:
     >
     >A  Check your junk file.A  Mine was there.
     >
     >
     >A  Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10
     >
     >
     >A  From: [2]Joseph F. Byrd, Jr.
     >A  Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 3:31 PM
     >A  To: [3][16]detomaso@detomasolist.com
     >A  Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)
     >
     >
     >A  I have not received the survey.A  I am hoping it would have a
     4th
     >A  reply.
     >A  4.A  Please revoke my membership and remove all personal
     information
     >A  and
     >A  postings from POCA.com.A  You may keep any pro-rated membership
     fees
     >and
     >A  future publication mailings.
     >A  The reason I first noticed the site was down was looking the
     email
     >A  address
     >A  to see whom to send above to.
     >
     >A  -----Original Message-----
     >A  From: DeTomaso
     [[4]mailto:[17]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com]
     >On
     >A  Behalf
     >A  Of Will Kooiman
     >A  Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 18:06 PM
     >A  To: Ken Green; Pantdino; [18]julian_kift@hotmail.com;
     [19]bill@incendium.com
     >A  Cc: [20]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com;
     [21]detomaso@detomasolist.com;

   treating
...
A  people
A  with respect, they should leave.
A  --
A  Will
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     >A  1. [26]https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986
     >A  2. mailto:[27]byrdjf@embarqmail.com
     >A  3. mailto:[28]detomaso@detomasolist.com
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   1. mailto:paso750@gmail.com
   2. mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com
   3. mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com
   4. mailto:cengles@cox.net
   5. mailto:kenn_green@yahoo.com
   6. mailto:edducati@mac.com
   7. mailto:reillyms@live.com
   8. mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com
   9. mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com
  10. mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com
  11. mailto:edducati@mac.com
  12. mailto:reillyms@live.com
  13. mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com
  14. mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com
  15. mailto:reillyms@live.com
  16. mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com
  17. mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com
  18. mailto:julian_kift@hotmail.com
  19. mailto:bill@incendium.com
  20. mailto:detomaso@server.detomasolist.com
  21. mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com
  22. mailto:mbglobalsc@aol.com
  23. mailto:gpd4@juno.com
  24. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com
  25. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  26. https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986
  27. mailto:byrdjf@embarqmail.com
  28. mailto:detomaso@detomasolist.com
  29. mailto:detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com
  30. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  31. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com
  32. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  33. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com
  34. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  35. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com
  36. http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
  37. mailto:DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com
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Re: [DeTomaso] POCA Website is Down, Here's Why (7)

Jeff Detrich