They said they would be going thru the motor before installing it. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Zeedick" <Pantera351C@Hotmail.com> To: "Tom Shinrock" <tmshinro@aol.com>, byrdjf@embarqmail.com, detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:34:49 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud I think what amazes me the most is that they are stuffing in an engine with 130K miles in it. To me that makes the car almost worthless, except for a project to return it to "Pantera Normal". It seems to me they have no plans to rebuild the motor therefore making it a Pantera wth 130K on the ticker. Now if it was a band new V6 Twin Turbo that might be a different storyŠ.. I agreeŠthey stole it from the lady who was selling it I think they might have failed to do their homework on this one, there are twin turbo cats out there and lets not forget the Ferrari 288 GTO one quick look at these cars would have made the job very ³easy² John²Not to thrilled with the idea but at least it is a Ford Motor²Z On 9/14/16, 9:33 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Tom Shinrock via DeTomaso" <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com on behalf of detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote:
In my 30 years of Pantera ownership and reading any Pantera related material I could get my hands on, I have never seen these pictures before. Thanks for sharing
Tom 5186
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During the design stage, air flow to the engine was considered.
I read there was a concern about having an air exit similar to the Mangusta because it would "frost over" and block flow
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Since there is no real air flow around where they placed the After Cooler, Maybe the air scoop is to create air flow to the after cooler and NOT the engine, I would simply use electric fans for this, but they ARE the Texas TV Experts, and I guess that^1s the way its done in Texas. Maybe our Pantera Boys in Texas need to give them some help here. Since they also eliminated the trunk storage area, they must not see the need get out much.
Larry
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Getting cool air to the engine seems to be a difficult issue for a
Pantera if you don't want to alter the looks. Has anyone seen a
solution that doesn't look like an after thought?
Ken
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Here is a pic from FB.
Ron
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The scoop looks like it feeds the ZF.. Fugly Bill 1362
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All,
I am resending this screen capture from last nightas show, as my
previous post seems to have lost its subject line.
Please don't shoot the messenger.
Since Richard liked the Nike interior disaster on the Ring Brothers
hack-job (at least enough to buy the thing), I imagine they will F-up
the interior of this Pantera to match their exterior disfigurement.
Larry
I am especially enamored with the tasteful deck lid cut-out
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In my 30 years of Pantera ownership and reading any Pantera related material I could get my hands on, I have never seen these pictures before. Thanks for sharing
Tom 5186
-----Original Message----- From: Joseph F. Byrd, Jr. <byrdjf@embarqmail.com> To: 'Pantera Mail List' <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Wed, Sep 14, 2016 3:12 pm Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud
During the design stage, air flow to the engine was considered.
I read there was a concern about having an air exit similar to the Mangusta because it would "frost over" and block flow
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Since there is no real air flow around where they placed the After Cooler, Maybe the air scoop is to create air flow to the after cooler and NOT the engine, I would simply use electric fans for this, but
_______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. They said they would be going thru the motor before installing it. Steve __________________________________________________________________ From: "John Zeedick" <Pantera351C@Hotmail.com> To: "Tom Shinrock" <tmshinro@aol.com>, byrdjf@embarqmail.com, detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 10:34:49 PM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Pantera on Fast & Loud I think what amazes me the most is that they are stuffing in an engine with 130K miles in it. To me that makes the car almost worthless, except for a project to return it to "Pantera Normal". It seems to me they have no plans to rebuild the motor therefore making it a Pantera wth 130K on the ticker. Now if it was a band new V6 Twin Turbo that might be a different storyAA .. I agreeAA they stole it from the lady who was selling it I think they might have failed to do their homework on this one, there are twin turbo cats out there and lets not forget the Ferrari 288 GTO one quick look at these cars would have made the job very A^3easyA^2 JohnA^2Not to thrilled with the idea but at least it is a Ford MotorA^2Z On 9/14/16, 9:33 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Tom Shinrock via DeTomaso" <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com on behalf of detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> wrote: they
ARE the Texas TV Experts, and I guess that^1s the way its done in Texas. Maybe our Pantera Boys in Texas need to give them some help here. Since they also eliminated the trunk storage area, they must not see the need get out much.
Larry
On 9/14/16, 12:00 PM, "DeTomaso on behalf of Ken Green via DeTomaso"
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Getting cool air to the engine seems to be a difficult issue for a
Pantera if you don't want to alter the looks. Has anyone seen a
solution that doesn't look like an after thought?
Ken
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Here is a pic from FB.
Ron
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The scoop looks like it feeds the ZF.. Fugly Bill 1362
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All,
I am resending this screen capture from last nightas show, as my
previous post seems to have lost its subject line.
Please don't shoot the messenger.
Since Richard liked the Nike interior disaster on the Ring Brothers
hack-job (at least enough to buy the thing), I imagine they will F-up
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Larry
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