Marshall, Does your front trunk hood not have vents? I figured the engine bay tub would be hotter than front trunk. I just opened some Assured cough drops that road in my front trunk through 800 miles which included two open road races, and they weren't stuck to the rappers. Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! ) From: marshall smith <marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.net> To: "falconjackpam@sbcglobal.net" <falconjackpam@sbcglobal.net>; "MikeLDrew@aol.com" <MikeLDrew@aol.com>; "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>; Julian Kift <julian_kift@hotmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] im looking for a spair tire for my 1972 pantera or ideal what will fit in trunk I was going to comment on this stream also. My front trunk clearly gets much hotter than the rear trunk. No lavatory luggage ever gets loaded in the front. Marshall -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 8/10/16, Julian Kift <julian_kift@hotmail.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] im looking for a spair tire for my 1972 pantera or ideal what will fit in trunk To: "falconjackpam@sbcglobal.net" <falconjackpam@sbcglobal.net>, "MikeLDrew@aol.com" <MikeLDrew@aol.com>, "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Date: Wednesday, August 10, 2016, 7:30 AM Mike, All good advice until I got to the last paragraph, I would caution even keeping a can of fix a flat in the front trunk unless it is behind the battery or against the bulkhead. One Vegas Fun Rally I had a can explode in the front trunk of my car, fortunately no damage, but the sticky mess made the trunk unusable for the rest of the trip and took a good weekend too clean out. Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso <detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 1:23 PM To: falconjackpam@sbcglobal.net; detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] im looking for a spair tire for my 1972 pantera or ideal what will fit in trunk Jack (I assume that's your name?) Your e-mail came through completely blank, but your subject line pretty well lays out your question. Before getting down to specifics, let me suggest something perhaps you hadn't considered. Let's say you're driving down the road and BOOM, you get a flat tire. You pull over, pull out your jack and your spare, install the spare, inflate it, lower the car back onto the road.... ...and then what? Your rare, exotic and expensive factory wheel and flat tire (or equally expensive and rare aftermarket wheel and flat tire) are sitting there on the shoulder of the road. What do you plan to do with them? It's much too big to fit into the car! You're not going to abandon them, so no matter what, you're going to need to call a tow truck. So given that's the case, why even bother carrying a spare? Having said that, if you are really wanting a spare (perhaps for concours), they are rare and expensive, coveted by the Mustang restoration guys. The spare used in the Pantera was the same one used on late 1960s and early 1970s performance Mustangs, including the '69 and '70 Shelby, Boss 302, Boss 429, 428 CJ cars with fold down rear seat and trunk-mounted batteries. There is one available for sale on Ebay right now for $995 plus $36.85 shipping (buy it now price), and another one in much better shape available for auction with a starting price of $395 (but the reserve is likely much higher). Personally I would never trust a 40-year-old collapsible spare tire in any circumstances, so I would view that as a display item only. Others have found that lightweight spacesaver tires from later-model Fords (Crown Vics etc.) will fit, and they can be had from junkyards for a fraction of the cost. But personally, I wouldn't bother. I would carry a can of fix-a-flat (note that some of those use PROPANE as the inflator, and are highly explosive; more than one Pantera has suffered extensive damage from an explosion, so read the label carefully, and keep it in the front trunk!), and a AAA card.... Mike -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. Members who post to this list grant license to the list to forward any message posted here to all past, current, or future members of the list. They also grant the list owner permission to maintain an archive or approve the archiving of list messages. Marshall, Does your front trunk hood not have vents? I figured the engine bay tub would be hotter than front trunk. I just opened some Assured cough drops that road in my front trunk through 800 miles which included two open road races, and they weren't stuck to the rappers. Bud #3400 ( Drive it like there is no tomorrow -- for there may not be ! ) __________________________________________________________________ From: marshall smith <marshallgsmith@sbcglobal.net> To: "falconjackpam@sbcglobal.net" <falconjackpam@sbcglobal.net>; "MikeLDrew@aol.com" <MikeLDrew@aol.com>; "detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <detomaso@server.detomasolist.com>; Julian Kift <julian_kift@hotmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] im looking for a spair tire for my 1972 pantera or ideal what will fit in trunk I was going to comment on this stream also. My front trunk clearly gets much hotter than the rear trunk. No lavatory luggage ever gets loaded in the front. Marshall -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 8/10/16, Julian Kift <[1]julian_kift@hotmail.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] im looking for a spair tire for my 1972 pantera or ideal what will fit in trunk To: "[2]falconjackpam@sbcglobal.net" <[3]falconjackpam@sbcglobal.net>, "[4]MikeLDrew@aol.com" <[5]MikeLDrew@aol.com>, "[6]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com" <[7]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Date: Wednesday, August 10, 2016, 7:30 AM Mike, All good advice until I got to the last paragraph, I would caution even keeping a can of fix a flat in the front trunk unless it is behind the battery or against the bulkhead. One Vegas Fun Rally I had a can explode in the front trunk of my car, fortunately no damage, but the sticky mess made the trunk unusable for the rest of the trip and took a good weekend too clean out. Julian __________________________________________________________________ From: DeTomaso <[8]detomaso-bounces@server.detomasolist.com> on behalf of Mike Drew via DeTomaso <[9]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 1:23 PM To: [10]falconjackpam@sbcglobal.net; [11]detomaso@server.detomasolist.com Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] im looking for a spair tire for my 1972 pantera or ideal what will fit in trunk Jack (I assume that's your name?) Your e-mail came through completely blank, but your subject line pretty well lays out your question. Before getting down to specifics, let me suggest something perhaps you hadn't considered. Let's say you're driving down the road and BOOM, you get a flat tire. You pull over, pull out your jack and your spare, install the spare, inflate it, lower the car back onto the road.... ...and then what? Your rare, exotic and expensive factory wheel and flat tire (or equally expensive and rare aftermarket wheel and flat tire) are sitting there on the shoulder of the road. What do you plan to do with them? It's much too big to fit into the car! You're not going to abandon them, so no matter what, you're going to need to call a tow truck. So given that's the case, why even bother carrying a spare? Having said that, if you are really wanting a spare (perhaps for concours), they are rare and expensive, coveted by the Mustang restoration guys. The spare used in the Pantera was the same one used on late 1960s and early 1970s performance Mustangs, including the '69 and '70 Shelby, Boss 302, Boss 429, 428 CJ cars with fold down rear seat and trunk-mounted batteries. There is one available for sale on Ebay right now for $995 plus $36.85 shipping (buy it now price), and another one in much better shape available for auction with a starting price of $395 (but the reserve is likely much higher). Personally I would never trust a 40-year-old collapsible spare tire in any circumstances, so I would view that as a display item only. Others have found that lightweight spacesaver tires from later-model Fords (Crown Vics etc.) will fit, and they can be had from junkyards for a fraction of the cost. But personally, I wouldn't bother. I would carry a can of fix-a-flat (note that some of those use PROPANE as the inflator, and are highly explosive; more than one Pantera has suffered extensive damage from an explosion, so read the label carefully, and keep it in the front trunk!), and a AAA card.... Mike -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Detomaso Email List is not managed by POCA Posted emails must not exceed 1.5 Megabytes DeTomaso mailing list [12]DeTomaso@server.detomasolist.com [13]http://server.detomasolist.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso To manage your subscription (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) use the links above. 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